Beards vs. Make-up
xe...@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
an "affectation" comparable to the wearing of makeup by women.
It's funny, I've never had to actually *do* anything in order to have a
beard... it grows all by itself, just like the hair on top of my head. Unless
I am willing to go through the daily ritual of scraping my face with a steel
blade, I will have a beard, like it or not.
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that SHAVING is the "affectation"?
I think the one similarity between beards and makeup is that each of these
things is more popular with the sex that wears it than with the opposite sex,
but I'd be willing to bet that there are a lot more men who don't like makeup
than there are women who don't like beards... ;)
- xenon
Marguerite Petersen
>re: Recent episode of Star Trek where Dr. Beverly Crusher says that beards are
>an "affectation" comparable to the wearing of makeup by women.
>
>It's funny, I've never had to actually *do* anything in order to have a
>beard... it grows all by itself, just like the hair on top of my head. Unless
>I am willing to go through the daily ritual of scraping my face with a steel
>blade, I will have a beard, like it or not.
>
>Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that SHAVING is the "affectation"?
I have to agree with you here. But I would also have to mention that
the "beard" that just grows can turn into the beard from hell! I've
seen a few of those. Thus, the trimming and care to ensure a *neat*
and tidy beard could be considered comparable to wearing makeup. And
why do *some* men allow their beards to grow? Perhaps because they
perceive a beard to be *attractive* to women (or they think it improves
their looks, which amounts to the same thing) and thus having a beard
becomes very similar to women wearing makeup. i.e. for the purpose of
attraction.
>I think the one similarity between beards and makeup is that each of these
>things is more popular with the sex that wears it than with the opposite sex,
>but I'd be willing to bet that there are a lot more men who don't like makeup
>than there are women who don't like beards... ;)
>
>- xenon
You may be right in your assumption. Makeup can be particularly messy
(especially the day after the night before :-) ). But I have to admit I
am one of those women who *loves* beards (and also bald men).
Marg
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David Seldner
|> re: Recent episode of Star Trek where Dr. Beverly Crusher says that beards are
|> an "affectation" comparable to the wearing of makeup by women.
|>
|> I think the one similarity between beards and makeup is that each of these
|> things is more popular with the sex that wears it than with the opposite sex,
|> but I'd be willing to bet that there are a lot more men who don't like makeup
|> than there are women who don't like beards... ;)
|>
hide something, they don't want to "show their face". The same can appeal
to woman, depending on how much make-up they use. Just a little bit may
accentuate their personality, if it's too much, oh well, they might
not want to show their real face.
What I'd like to know: why is it that so many women like beards (or, better)
men with beards? Maybe I should let one grow ... :-)
|> - xenon
|>
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dave
Curt Gates
writes:
> Psychologically, men who have beards want to
> hide something, they don't want to "show their face".
Ohhh, no! Another cross-posting from pop.psychology. I dont know if I can
stand all this profound insight into human behavior. The real reason men
shave is because they are afraid of losing their face in a flame war.
> What I'd like to know: why is it that so many women like ...
> men with beards?
Because they think a man with a beard is furry and and cuddly like a wild
animal maybe?
> Maybe I should let one grow ... :-)
Naww, let that be the one regret in your life -- that you lived your whole
life clean shaven and never knew what it was like to ... live on the wild
side.
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John Stafford
wrote:
>
> That's an interesting point. Psychologically, men who have beards want to
> hide something, they don't want to "show their face".
Nonsense. Having a beard simply makes life easier and more comfortable
for me. Shaving is literally a pain. EOT.
Peter Nelson
>That's an interesting point. Psychologically, men who have beards want to
>hide something, they don't want to "show their face".
Who told you this? Why do you believe it?
I have a beard because it takes less time and effort to maintain
than shaving. Instead of having to shave every day I just trim
it once every two weeks.
---peter
Diane
>an "affectation" comparable to the wearing of makeup by women.
Dworkin/McKinnon* and NOW you're hitting us (women) with what a fictional
character on a sci-fi show has to say????
I definitely prefer women without beards and men without make-up!
Diane
* jeesh, I don't even know if I *spelled* them right!
Tom Kuchar
>
>That's an interesting point. Psychologically, men who have beards want to
>hide something, they don't want to "show their face".
Men who shave are ones who are trying to hold on to their youth
out of a feeling that it was misspent or a have fear of the future
or maturity. So, you see, you can interpret shaving as some
psychological fear as well.
BTW, I, myself, am clean shaven and the above statements do not
reflect on me whatsoever ;-).
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Andra Barrow
>makeup than there are women who don't like beards... ;)
My fiance gets on an "I wanna grow a beard" kick about once every year and a
half or so (Usually right around the Renaissance Festival ;)). I won't let him
grow one and don't like the things for one simple, very non-pychological
reason...beard burns are _no_ fun at all, especially on...never mind. ;))
Andra Barrow
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xe...@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
> In article <1992Nov22....@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu>
> xe...@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>
>>re: Recent episode of Star Trek where Dr. Beverly Crusher says that beards are
>>an "affectation" comparable to the wearing of makeup by women.
>>Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that SHAVING is the "affectation"?
>
> (whining) Xenon, this is sooooooo unfair! I can't even explain
> Dworkin/McKinnon* and NOW you're hitting us (women) with what a fictional
> character on a sci-fi show has to say????
Not hitting women, just tweaking the writers a bit.... incidentally this is the
first post I've written in a very long time that has gotten more than one or
two followups.... makes you wonder, doesn't it? ;)
> I definitely prefer women without beards and men without make-up!
>
> Diane
Me too... ;)
- xenon
Timothy James
>In article <By5zs...@iai.kfk.de> sel...@hdi3sun.kfk.de (David Seldner) writes:
>>
>>That's an interesting point. Psychologically, men who have beards want to
>>hide something, they don't want to "show their face".
>
>Men who shave are ones who are trying to hold on to their youth
>out of a feeling that it was misspent or a have fear of the future
>or maturity. So, you see, you can interpret shaving as some
>psychological fear as well.
>
>BTW, I, myself, am clean shaven and the above statements do not
>reflect on me whatsoever ;-).
>Tom Kuchar
Hey, why doesn't someone else make a sweeping generalization about men
with or without beards?
Gee, why do you have long hair?
Why do you have short hair?
Why do you wear the clothes you wear?
I have a beard for four reasons...
1) Women tell me they like it, and come up
to me and stroke my face.
2) I spend the extra fifteen min that it would
take me to shave asleep.
3) It keeps my face warm in the winter
4) It makes me look older.
I have a sterotypical opinion about men who shave...
They waste time by giving in to an idea imposed upon
them by society...
or
They don't have enough testosterone in their system to
even concieve of a full bodied beard let alone grow
one that even looks slightly good.
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Joshua_Putnam
>In article <By5zs...@iai.kfk.de> sel...@hdi3sun.kfk.de (David Seldner) writes:
>>
>>That's an interesting point. Psychologically, men who have beards want to
>>hide something, they don't want to "show their face".
>Men who shave are ones who are trying to hold on to their youth
>out of a feeling that it was misspent or a have fear of the future
>or maturity. So, you see, you can interpret shaving as some
>psychological fear as well.
How about: men who don't shave just can't be bothered.
Not to mention the excellent insulation value of a
beard when cycling in freezing weather. If I shave in
the winter my fillings hurt when I ride. If I grow a
beard, they don't. No deep psuedo-psychological
mumbo-jumbo needed to explain it, either.
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Mirabelle Severn & Thames
>men with beards? Maybe I should let one grow ... :-)
>dave
Because they smell incredible!
Naomi
(Yes, it's only my opinion; and no, it's not humble.)
Thomas G. Kiefer
>perceive a beard to be *attractive* to women (or they think it improves
>their looks, which amounts to the same thing) and thus having a beard
>becomes very similar to women wearing makeup. i.e. for the purpose of
>attraction.
In article <By5zs...@iai.kfk.de> sel...@hdi3sun.kfk.de (David Seldner) writes:
>That's an interesting point. Psychologically, men who have beards want to
>hide something, they don't want to "show their face". The same can appeal
>to woman, depending on how much make-up they use. Just a little bit may
>accentuate their personality, if it's too much, oh well, they might
>not want to show their real face.
Maybe "*some* men allow their beards to grow" because they don't want to
go through the extra trouble of shaving it every day (a little trim once
a month-or-two has always sufficed for me), and is *much* less trouble.
Maybe "*some* men allow their beards to grow" because shaving irritates
the hell out of the skin on their face (regardless of any aftershave
lotion or application used), and a reasonably clean-kept beard doesn't.
Then again, maybe this thread *really* does not belong on a Star Trek
newsgroup...
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Tired of my mother telling me she doesn't like beards.
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Marguerite Petersen
>|> re: Recent episode of Star Trek where Dr. Beverly Crusher says that beards are
>|> an "affectation" comparable to the wearing of makeup by women.
>|>
>|> [...]
>|> I think the one similarity between beards and makeup is that each of these
>|> things is more popular with the sex that wears it than with the opposite sex,
>|> but I'd be willing to bet that there are a lot more men who don't like makeup
>|> than there are women who don't like beards... ;)
>|>
>That's an interesting point. Psychologically, men who have beards want to
>hide something, they don't want to "show their face". The same can appeal
>to woman, depending on how much make-up they use. Just a little bit may
>accentuate their personality, if it's too much, oh well, they might
>not want to show their real face.
*Some* men may want to hide something; others not. Both my SO and my
son have beards. My SO because he has a large scar that he doesn't feel
comfortable about and my son because he has skin that is so sensitive
that whatever he shaves with raises welts on his face that last all day.
>What I'd like to know: why is it that so many women like beards (or, better)
>men with beards? Maybe I should let one grow ... :-)
>|> - xenon
>dave
I have no idea why I like beards but I *definitely* do. Try growing one
and see what happens. If you don't like it, it's easy to get rid of. :-)
M17...@mwvm.mitre.org
nao...@sco.COM (Mirabelle Severn & Thames) writes:
>
>
>In article <By5zs...@iai.kfk.de> sel...@hdi3sun.kfk.de (David Seldner) writes:
>>What I'd like to know: why is it that so many women like beards (or, better)
>>men with beards? Maybe I should let one grow ... :-)
>
>>dave
>
>Because they smell incredible!
>
>Naomi
>
Ellie
Bil Snodgrass
>sel...@hdi3sun.kfk.de (David Seldner) writes:
>
>>Psychologically, men who have beards want to
>>hide something, they don't want to "show their face". The same can appeal
>>to woman, depending on how much make-up they use. Just a little bit may
>>accentuate their personality, if it's too much, oh well, they might
>>not want to show their real face.
>
>
>I don't have a beard to "hide my face". I have a beard
>because I HATE SHAVING!!!
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My beard is on my face because God put it there. I hate shaving and
bleeding...it is unnatural! And lots of Gays love it too!
Cort Odekirk
>hide something, they don't want to "show their face". The same can appeal
>to woman, depending on how much make-up they use. Just a little bit may
>accentuate their personality, if it's too much, oh well, they might
>not want to show their real face.
I have a goatee, does this mean I'm scitzophrenic? I only want to hide
half of something :). Besides, its ***trendy***!!!!
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>>hide something, they don't want to "show their face". The same can appeal
>>to woman, depending on how much make-up they use. Just a little bit may
>>accentuate their personality, if it's too much, oh well, they might
>>not want to show their real face.
>So much for psychology...
You mean, "so much for voodoo and new age mysticism"
Psychology: The modern analog of alchemy.
Who knows, it may actually develop into a science in
a few centuries...
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gun...@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
> an "affectation" comparable to the wearing of makeup by women.
>
> It's funny, I've never had to actually *do* anything in order to have a
> beard... it grows all by itself, just like the hair on top of my head. Unless
> I am willing to go through the daily ritual of scraping my face with a steel
> blade, I will have a beard, like it or not.
Not exactly true. It's very easy to grow a beard--it's a natural process that
takes care of itself. It's also very easy to upend a makeup kit over your
face--gravity takes care of that. However, *maintaining* a beard (not just
leting yourself look as if burnt shredded wheat has been stuck to your face)
takes as much time and care for a man, as applying makeup does for a woman.
It's just that cultural expectations regarding men's beards are set *SO* much
lower than what they are for women that men can get away with looking like
crap.
BTW, I am male and have a beard. When I want to look good I trim it neatly.
When I don't care how I look, I let it go. When I don't want the bother of
keeping it up, but don't want to look scuzzy, I shave it off.
G.
barter,elizabeth
> In article <1992Nov22....@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> xe...@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
> >an "affectation" comparable to the wearing of makeup by women.
> >
> >It's funny, I've never had to actually *do* anything in order to have a
> >beard... it grows all by itself, just like the hair on top of my head. Unless
> >I am willing to go through the daily ritual of scraping my face with a steel
> >blade, I will have a beard, like it or not.
> >
> >Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that SHAVING is the "affectation"?
>
>
> It surprises me that the "norm" appears to be clean-shaven, and having
> a beard is considered to be doing something extra. I'd think it would
> be just the opposite.
>
> >I think the one similarity between beards and makeup is that each of these
> >things is more popular with the sex that wears it than with the opposite sex,
> >but I'd be willing to bet that there are a lot more men who don't like makeup
> >than there are women who don't like beards... ;)
>
> never understood that. One complaint seems to be that beards are hard
> on a lover's skin. I've found that beards are much softer than a
> clean-shaven face which needs a shave.
>
Well it depends on the beard and the face. My SOs beard is very wiry
and I have sensitive skin. Having a constant peeling chin is so
unattractive, looks like you have a permanent sunburn on only part of
your face. Since I can't change my skin and he can't change his beard
(when he shaves it off, it's back where it was in about 2 days), we
have a problem. I read somewhere (Heloise, Ms. Manners??) that using
a conditioner might soften the beard, and it really does work! I
don't know if he notices the difference, but I sure do!
Beth
Restless Wanderer
>In article <By5zs...@iai.kfk.de> sel...@hdi3sun.kfk.de (David Seldner) writes:
>>
>>That's an interesting point. Psychologically, men who have beards want to
>>hide something, they don't want to "show their face".
>
>Men who shave are ones who are trying to hold on to their youth
>out of a feeling that it was misspent or a have fear of the future
>or maturity. So, you see, you can interpret shaving as some
>psychological fear as well.
>
UNFAIR.....
I have a beard because if I looked at myself everyday in a mirror
I'd cut my throat. ;-)
What about us guys who are scared of razor sharp steel near our
throats.... now thats deep.!!!
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sho...@mtroyal.ab.ca
Let's reword this question a little - it's rather like the old catch question
of "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?".........
Why do SOME women like beards?
Beats me, I can't stand 'em. Nasty tickly, scrapey things. Had a boyfriend
once who had a beard, what a jerk he turned out to be. Possible psychological
reasons for my dislike of the things? Maybe.... Don't like most mustaches
either.
Back to Star Trek - all the male cast members currently bearded can lose 'em as
fast as possible as far as I'm concerned.
And another thing...I wish Picard had hair on TOP of his head. Bald men do not
turn me on either.
Stef
drieux, just drieux
Hear! Hear!
God Decended Upon Me one Day and said unto me:
"The Reason that you get 'razor rash' is because
you are doing an UnNatural Thing! Eschew Ye this
Effimette Way, and You will Feel Less Pain!"
And I said unto GOD:
"But how will I be able to Show My TRUE Manly Viral Masculine Way
But that I threaten Myself Daily With Cold Steel."
And God Said unto me:
"Trust me."
And Low, I came to understand that RealMen[tm] are NOT
Afraid to be RealMen[tm] and find Other ways that
they can prove their ThrobbingManlyNess, than trying
to look like women and children.
ciao
drieux
ps: not that I would wish to suggest that
Brother Seldner has Cut OFF his ManHood....
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You'd better not Pout, I'm Telling you Why:
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drieux, just drieux
] In article <1992Nov22....@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu>
One of the WORST things I ever saw was an
advert for woodland camo colours in a womans
compact kit, for the young WarMongerOnTheGo.
It just LACKS something, Traditional Family Values....
ciao
drieux
ps: How do folks tell real life from street theatre?
Alan Scott Tuskes
In a previous article, nao...@sco.COM (Mirabelle Severn & Thames) says:
>
>In article <By5zs...@iai.kfk.de> sel...@hdi3sun.kfk.de (David Seldner) writes:
>>What I'd like to know: why is it that so many women like beards (or, better)
>>men with beards? Maybe I should let one grow ... :-)
>
>>dave
>
>Because they smell incredible!
>
>Naomi
>
>(Yes, it's only my opinion; and no, it's not humble.)
>
>
In a discussion with another bearded friend in college about
10 years ago, I mentioned that I had read somewhere (probably
the "Weekly World News") that a psychologist had done a study
and found that women who liked men with beards do so because
of a latent streak of bestiality...(please, I remember reading
this somewhere; please don't send your hate mail to me!!!)
Anyway, getting on with the point....I proceeded to find out
why my SO at the time liked me in a beard. Her response was, in fact,
that I reminded her of a big, hairy, cuddly grizzly bear. (Hmmm?!?)
My friend, in turn, asked his girlfriend and received a similiar
response (...He reminds me of Winnie-the-Pooh) not exactly the
sex-craved man-beast response he was looking for, but the thought
was there.
Anyway, my current SO saw me without a beard once, wouldn't get
into bed with me 'til I grew it back (may be a stronger "latent
streak" than I thought) Oh, well....
Just thought I'd throw my two cents in....
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I grew a beard last year for the following reasons:
1) I was never allowed to grow one while on active duty in the Army
(22 years)
2) I wanted to see what I looked like with a beard.
3) I was hoping I would look like Commander Riker -or- the Sheriff of
Notingham.
4) I think it looks good
5) I'm tired of shaving
6) It covers up some scars
7) In the Pacific Northwest, beards seem to be the norm.
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> In article <168A968F...@mwvm.mitre.org>, M17...@mwvm.mitre.org writes:
> > In article <1992Nov23.2...@sco.com>
> > nao...@sco.COM (Mirabelle Severn & Thames) writes:
>
> Back to Star Trek - all the male cast members currently bearded can lose 'em
> fast as possible as far as I'm concerned.
>
> And another thing...I wish Picard had hair on TOP of his head. Bald men do n
> turn me on either.
>
> Stef
I guess that puts me completly at the other end of the spectrum to Stef.
I'm married to a bald/bearded guy. :) (Ok, goteed but close enough)
And I think Patrick Stewart and his bald head is very sexy. And Riker
looks better with the beard. (which isn't saying much). But then again,
I wouldn't put a beard on Patrick. I guess it is a matter of the particular
guy. Some look better with beards, some without. Baldness is not a matter
of choice, however and I think most hairpieces look stupid. So I guess that
about covers Star Trek and hair.
-To beard or not to beard. <run away! run away!>
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Roger M. Wilcox
If left alone, a man's face will grow a beard.
If left alone, a woman's face will NOT grow makeup.
Therefore, beards and makeup are not the same thing for each gender.
For a long time, I had no beard. I shaved almost every day. I was terrified
of looking like a vagrant for the one month between the time I stopped shaving
and the time I officially "had a beard". When I finally became a bearded
person, I started to get treated more like an adult and women noticed me more.
If this had happened ten years before, I would not have been able to handle
the elevated energy level and would have turned right around and shaved my
new beard off.
The same thing happened to a friend of mine some six or eight years ago. He
LIKED looking like a bum because it annoyed his parents. However, the extra
attention he got from women proved too much for him and he shaved it all off.
(He said he felt like it made him "lose his identity". Yeah, right. We all
know what THAT'S about! He was just afraid that he might be successful with
a woman and then he wouldn't get to be Mr. Self-Righteous Miserable any more.)
Interestingly, though, I understand that some girls do experience a flush of
"this is too much maturity all at once!" when they first use makeup, just like
some boys might when they first grow beards. Then again, I felt the same
thing when I first had my hair professionally styled to look attractively
male, and I'm sure some girls experience the same thing when they get their
hair permed or styled the first time too. So maybe I'm just squeamish about
sexual potency.
Gilligan
In article <uyTVuB...@kryton.UUCP>, a...@kryton.UUCP (Catherine
Beckstead) writes:
|> sho...@mtroyal.ab.ca writes:
|>
|> > In article <168A968F...@mwvm.mitre.org>, M17...@mwvm.mitre.org
writes:
|> > > In article <1992Nov23.2...@sco.com>
|> > > nao...@sco.COM (Mirabelle Severn & Thames) writes:
|> >
|> > Back to Star Trek - all the male cast members currently bearded can
lose 'em
|> > fast as possible as far as I'm concerned.
|> >
|> > And another thing...I wish Picard had hair on TOP of his head.
Bald men do n
|> > turn me on either.
|> > Stef
|> I guess that puts me completly at the other end of the spectrum to Stef.
|> I'm married to a bald/bearded guy. :) (Ok, goteed but close enough)
|> And I think Patrick Stewart and his bald head is very sexy. And Riker
|> looks better with the beard. (which isn't saying much). But then again,
|> I wouldn't put a beard on Patrick. I guess it is a matter of the
particular
|> guy. Some look better with beards, some without. Baldness is not a matter
|> of choice, however and I think most hairpieces look stupid. So I guess that
|> about covers Star Trek and hair.
Yay!
I am a balding, bearded man, and before the beard I have been told that I look
a bit like Patrick Stewart (especialy when I went to Halloween two years ago as
Locutus!). When I shaved off my last beard, I left the goatee to see what it
would look like, and there was Vladimir Lenin staring back at me in the mirror
(I guess I have a costume for next year 8-)). Anyway, the ironic twist to this
whole thing is that my brother, when he had a beard, held a passing resemblance
to Jonathon Frakes. His two year old daughter likes Trek, and when
shesees Riker
she yells "Phil", and when she sees Picard she yells "Daddy", thus getting it
exactly backwards.
Maybe when I lose *all* my hair on top I can try out to be in "Star Trek: the
Next NEXT Generation".
P.S. My license plate says "LOCUTUS", too. Used to have "BORG", but
everyone thought I was a tennis fan!
years
* Phil Plait pc...@virginia.edu
*
* "To escape from our own island, we must each metaphorically
* kill our own Gilligan..."
Roger M. Wilcox
My current SO likes beards better than non-beards only because a beard feels
like fuzz, while a shaven face usually feels like sand paper. (And sand
paper is MUCH harsher when you're up close than fuzz is.)
My previous SO, however, liked the rough feel of a man's shaven face.
Go figure.
--
Roger *M.* Wilcox (aka Jeff Boeing)
tra...@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu
"You dinna tell him how long it would ACTUALLY take?!" -- Scotty
cs202144
> men with beards? Maybe I should let one grow ... :-)
Most of the women I have spoken to do not like beards. Dr. Crusher sure doesn't
seem to be too fond of them ;)
cs202144
> once who had a beard, what a jerk he turned out to be. Possible
> psychological reasons for my dislike of the things? Maybe.... Don't like
> most mustaches either.
>
> Back to Star Trek - all the male cast members currently bearded can lose
> 'em as fast as possible as far as I'm concerned.
>
> And another thing...I wish Picard had hair on TOP of his head. Bald men do
> not turn me on either.
To summarize...She likes hair, but only in the right places?
James P. Callison
Can you say "penis envy?" I knew you could. :-)
c...@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
> In article <168A968F...@mwvm.mitre.org>, M17...@mwvm.mitre.org writes:
>> In article <1992Nov23.2...@sco.com>
>> nao...@sco.COM (Mirabelle Severn & Thames) writes:
>>>
>>>In article <By5zs...@iai.kfk.de> sel...@hdi3sun.kfk.de (David Seldner) writes:
>>>>What I'd like to know: why is it that so many women like beards (or, better)
>>>>men with beards? Maybe I should let one grow ... :-)
>>>>dave
>>>Because they smell incredible!
>>>Naomi
>> Becuase they tickle!
>> Ellie
>
> Let's reword this question a little - it's rather like the old catch question
> of "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?".........
> Why do SOME women like beards?
Thank you!
> Beats me, I can't stand 'em. Nasty tickly, scrapey things. Had a boyfriend
> once who had a beard, what a jerk he turned out to be. Possible psychological
> reasons for my dislike of the things? Maybe.... Don't like most mustaches
> either.
I think they're nasty also. I prefer the clean shaven look. I watch my
colleague get food in his beard daily...it really looks awful. Moustaches are
not exciting to me either. I totally concur with you on this subject.
So why do males grow beards?
1. Because they're there...maybe wearers don't realize how nasty they look.
2. It's a 'cover' as some people use glasses.
3. It's just something to do for a different look like a new hair style.
4. It could hide a scar or acne.
5. It's because they're bald, and want to have some hair SOME where.
> Back to Star Trek - all the male cast members currently bearded can lose
> 'em as fast as possible as far as I'm concerned.
I thought Riker looked and still looks goofy with the beard. I was so
disappointed when he grew it..and now it looks like Geordi wants one.
> And another thing...I wish Picard had hair on TOP of his head. Bald
> men do not turn me on either.
> Stef
They don't turn me on either...Older bald men don't sound particularly
sexy or exciting, except in Picard's case, I'll have to hand
it to him...he is certainly making the most of what he has!!!!
He's gorgeous--IMHO...because he is so stylish and classy, and he has that
golden *voice*.
-Pam-
David Neal
>>What I'd like to know: why is it that so many women like beards (or, better)
>>men with beards? Maybe I should let one grow ... :-)
>
>>dave
>
>Because they smell incredible!
>
Thank God mine doesn't smell incredibLY.
I'm not allowed to shave mine. Tried it once...
S.O. sez: "You're... you're... UGLY!" sniff.
Grew it back. Didn't have it when I met her either.
>Naomi
>
>(Yes, it's only my opinion; and no, it's not humble.)
--
David Neal -- hd...@hou281.chevron.com
My processes aren't dead! They're only resource impaired!
Computationally challenged!
Bruce F. Webster
>
> So why do males grow beards?
> 1. Because they're there...maybe wearers don't realize how nasty they look.
> 2. It's a 'cover' as some people use glasses.
> 3. It's just something to do for a different look like a new hair style.
> 4. It could hide a scar or acne.
> 5. It's because they're bald, and want to have some hair SOME where.
>
Also:
-- because their significant others prefer them (in my case, my wife
really loves me in a beard) (of course, if my wife had her way,
I'd also have a pony tail)
-- because they look better with one than without (feedback I've had
from a large number of people over the years, though I'm not sure
just how to interpret it :-)
-- because they get really tired of scraping hair off their face
every morning
I've had a beard about 30-40% of the time over the past 14 years (I've had the
current one for about 18 months), so I can cheerfully live either way.
..bruce..
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cs202144
> disappointed when he grew it..and now it looks like Geordi wants one.
I think Riker looks much better with the beard than he did before. On the other
hand Geordi does not look good with one.
Some people look good with and some look good without! It's like any fashion
or whatever...Some fit the look and some don't.
I myself do not look good with one, but I do look better with a moustache so
Dave Decot
I wear a beard because....
I want to be one of "AL'S PALS" !
Dave
Dave Decot
Beverly would have wagered *shaving her head*, rather than just lamely
coloring it.
Dave
Vicki Holzhauer
Well, she *did* ask for suggestions, so they could have suggested
something less lame than hair coloring. Perhaps a crew cut? :-)
--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / / vi...@ncar.ucar.edu
Bruce James Robrert Linley
>In article <BypJo...@cup.hp.com> de...@cup.hp.com (Dave Decot) writes:
>>Actually, I wish in exchange for the bet to shave their beards off,
>>Beverly would have wagered *shaving her head*, rather than just lamely
>>coloring it.
>
>
>Well, she *did* ask for suggestions, so they could have suggested
>something less lame than hair coloring. Perhaps a crew cut? :-)
>
How about having Bev swap wardrobes with Troi for a few episodes? ;)
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Bruce James Robert Linley | "Well, I tried shoving a weiner in the warp drive,
Comp Sci & Engr, UCLA | but it didn't do a bit o' good."
<lin...@netcom.com> | - Star Dreck, c/o Dr. Demento
<lin...@seas.ucla.edu> |
Daniel R. Iacovone
I myself would have gone for an Engine, freight car, and caboose if one
of us won.
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( ) __ ___ _ . . __ (___ ___ Columbus, Ohio
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Pierre Rioux
>Also:
>-- because their significant others prefer them (in my case, my wife
> really loves me in a beard) (of course, if my wife had her way,
> I'd also have a pony tail)
My case exactly. And I've been wearing a pony tail for a few months now.
>-- because they look better with one than without (feedback I've had
> from a large number of people over the years, though I'm not sure
> just how to interpret it :-)
My case too.
>-- because they get really tired of scraping hair off their face
> every morning
And also that. :-) It a lot of time saved. I sleep later now.
>I've had a beard about 30-40% of the time over the past 14 years (I've had the
>current one for about 18 months), so I can cheerfully live either way.
>..bruce..
I've been wearing a beard for a year now... looks great (so girls say)..
BTW, are you *THE* Bruce Webster who used to write in Byte Magazine?
If so, I used to read you when I was a kid! :-)
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David Stevens
Webster) writes:
>In article <1992Dec1.1...@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> c...@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
writes:
>>
>> So why do males grow beards?
I begin growing a beard as soon as the weather starts to get a little chilly.
By the time December and January get here, I have a nice mat of hair on my face
to cut down the bite of the wind.
I've met many men who only grow beards seasonally in order to gain a little
more warmth when out doors.