Why people hate Trekkies
Glengarry
I love Star Trek.
So much so that if you say something I disagree with, I will
- throw a hissy fit
- call you names
- threathen you
- call attention to your typos
- say something short, smarmy, glip, and oh-so-clever (but
ultimately very shallow)
- put you on my kill list so I never have to deal with your nasty
posts again
I actually care if the term used is Trekkie or Trekker
I will be so uncritical of ST that I will
- not acknowledge that - although the characters and perfromances
are great - most of the actors in the ST family aren't good enough to
get decent jobs outside the franchise
- defend Roddenberry's great "vision" while ignoring that ST is
great in spite of, not because of him...that he may have been a great
humanitarian but he was a lousy dramatist (I will refuse to credit
Fontana, Coon, and all the REAL writers)
- accept inferior product like Voyager
I will act big and talk tough on the net, even though in real life I'm
- a 98 pound weakling
- 12 years old
- a hefty adult...but the owner of a homemade starfleet uniform
I have no sense of humour
I felt angry at Shatner for doing that Saturday Night skit where he
told the Trekkies to "get a life'.....instead of laughing my ass off
I DIDN'T laugh my ass off at Shadner's rendition of Lucy in the
Sky...but, instead, found it a moving experience
I actually spent money on
- a serious of novels just because Shatner's name was on them
- an album so I could hear Spiner "sing"
- a Klingon dictionary
I talk about how progressive ST is by crediting it with the first
interracial kiss on TV.....completely ignoring what a cop out it was
because it was a "forced" kiss
I NEVER get tired of Nichelle's Martin Luther King anecdote
My stomach didn't turn when Imagine was done as an opera tune on that
embarrassing TV special
I didn't find that TV special embarrassing
I accept ST as a philosophy of life instead of the average science
fiction and excellent fantasy that it is
I am hated because I am a fanatic.
My name is.....(if you were the least bit pissed off by this post,
fill your name in here)
If you recogized this post as the fluff that it is...have yourself a
brew.
And a piece of cake while you're at it.
Live long and prosper and all that crap...
Klingomm12
(Glengarry) writes:
>I love Star Trek.
>
<quite a large snip>
>
>If you recogized this post as the fluff that it is...have yourself a
>brew.
>
>And a piece of cake while you're at it.
>
>Live long and prosper and all that crap...
>
LOL......I'll make sure *not* to join the same fan club as you!
Qapla' {{{:{>
Lynn
To err is human, to forgive is...........
damned difficult when someone has really p***ed you off!
Paul
>
<detailed statements snipped for the sake of sanity>
For someone who projects such a hatred toward Star Trek and its fans,
you sure seem to know a lot about it...
-Paul
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>I love Star Trek.
Perhaps you should title the rest
"How to tell I'm a die-hard Trekkie"
(For the humor impaired, the rest is a joke meant to poke fun at some of the
unacceptable behavior witnessed in the various Star Trek newsgroups, but can
usually be found elsewhere as well, plus other weirdness people associate
with "Trekkies". It can be taken as a satirical humor or as trolling
[stirring up trouble]. It depends on your perspective.)
>So much so that if you say something I disagree with, I will
> - throw a hissy fit
> - call you names
> - threaten you
> - call attention to your typos
> - say something short, smarmy, glip, and oh-so-clever (but
>ultimately very shallow)
> - put you on my kill list so I never have to deal with your nasty
>posts again
also add
- declare anything you wrote automatically wrong
>I actually care if the term used is Trekkie or Trekker
... because I know the difference between the two terms. :-)
(for the uninitiated, Trekker is "normal", while "Trekkies" wear Spock ears
and do the Vulcan salute on everyone while wearing Starfleet uniforms, so
goes the story)
>I will be so uncritical of ST that I will
> - not acknowledge that - although the characters and performances
>are great - most of the actors in the ST family aren't good enough to
>get decent jobs outside the franchise
As most of Star Trek's crew were accomplished actors/actresses before they
joined the crew, this is a myth that Trek critics tend to sprout. Kindly
remind them that all the leading roles are famous BEFORE joining Trek. :-)
Let's see... Shatner (Bros. Karamasov+others), Nimoy ("The Lieutenant" +
others), DeForest Kelley (various Westerns), Avery Brooks (Spencer for Hire,
Hawk), and Kate Mulgrew (Ryan's Hope + other soaps). Yeah, that should just
about cover it.
> - defend Roddenberry's great "vision" while ignoring that ST is
>great in spite of, not because of him...that he may have been a great
>humanitarian but he was a lousy dramatist (I will refuse to credit
>Fontana, Coon, and all the REAL writers)
Well, someone has to invent the world for people to play in first. That Gene
invited such talented people only adds to his vision. :-)
> - accept inferior product like Voyager
>I will act big and talk tough on the net, even though in real life I'm
> - a 98 pound weakling
> - 12 years old
> - a hefty adult...but the owner of a homemade Starfleet uniform
Add "a pair of Spock ears" to the list.
>I have no sense of humor
Depends on who's asking.
>I felt angry at Shatner for doing that Saturday Night skit where he
>told the Trekkies to "get a life'.....instead of laughing my ass off
The punchline is a lot funnier. ("That was the evil Captain Kirk speaking.")
>I DIDN'T laugh my ass off at Shadner's rendition of Lucy in the
>Sky...but, instead, found it a moving experience
Never heard it, so I can't tell you. :-)
>I actually spent money on
> - a serious of novels just because Shatner's name was on them
> - an album so I could hear Spiner "sing"
> - a Klingon dictionary
Actually, the most useless Star Trek novelty I've seen... Hmmm... Yeah,
computer "decorations" like a Starfleet "mouse cover" and a "Shuttlecraft"
diskette holder.
>I talk about how progressive ST is by crediting it with the first
>interracial kiss on TV.....completely ignoring what a cop out it was
>because it was a "forced" kiss
Does it matter?
>I NEVER get tired of Nichelle's Martin Luther King anecdote
It did kinda grew over the years. :-)
>My stomach didn't turn when Imagine was done as an opera tune on that
>embarrassing TV special
Don't recall it...
>I didn't find that TV special embarrassing
Don't recall seeing it...
>I accept ST as a philosophy of life instead of the average science
>fiction and excellent fantasy that it is
Add "I bought the book _Make it so!_ Management philosophy on TNG hoping to
improve myself."
>I am hated because I am a fanatic.
Aren't fanatics those who got things done when other people said it couldn't
be done? :-)
>My name is.....(if you were the least bit pissed off by this post,
>fill your name in here)
>If you recognized this post as the fluff that it is...have yourself a
>brew.
Make it a Raktajino. (If you know what that is, you're definitely more than
a casual Trekker!)
>And a piece of cake while you're at it.
And just for fun, Rokeg blood pie.
>Live long and prosper and all that crap...
Amen, even though I'm not Christian.
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Chris Blaise
wrote:
>I love Star Trek.
How can you say that?! When you're missing so much!
>So much so that if you say something I disagree with, I will
> - throw a hissy fit
> - call you names
> - threathen you
> - call attention to your typos
> - say something short, smarmy, glip, and oh-so-clever (but
>ultimately very shallow)
> - put you on my kill list so I never have to deal with your nasty
>posts again
- openly cry over your insensitivity.
- threaten you in Klingon and not for one moment feel embarassed or
self-concious saying it.
>I will act big and talk tough on the net, even though in real life I'm
> - a 98 pound weakling
> - 12 years old
> - a hefty adult...but the owner of a homemade starfleet uniform
- or a Klingon uniform and associated regalia.
- or a wardrobe of *all* Starfleet uniforms that I wear on a daily
basis.
- dream about being a Vulcan.
>I actually spent money on
> - a serious of novels just because Shatner's name was on them
> - an album so I could hear Spiner "sing"
> - a Klingon dictionary
- anything else that has "Star Trek" written on it.
>I didn't find that TV special embarrassing
- in fact, I found it moving.
Chris
Glengarry
>
><detailed statements snipped for the sake of sanity>
>
>For someone who projects such a hatred toward Star Trek and its fans,
>you sure seem to know a lot about it...
I seem to project hatred because 1) you are overly sensitive to
critical remarks and 2) took the last post way too seriously...as your
attempt to save our sanity proves.
Relax, Paul. We can enjoy ST a hell of a lot with worshipping it
Glengarry
>(For the humor impaired, the rest is a joke meant to poke fun at some of the
>unacceptable behavior witnessed in the various Star Trek newsgroups, but can
>usually be found elsewhere as well, plus other weirdness people associate
>with "Trekkies". It can be taken as a satirical humor or as trolling
>[stirring up trouble]. It depends on your perspective.)
How about an incredibly witty, insight, epoch-making look into the
socio-cultural phenomenon of..............I lost my train of
thought....
>>So much so that if you say something I disagree with, I will
>> - throw a hissy fit
>> - call you names
>> - threaten you
>> - call attention to your typos
>> - say something short, smarmy, glip, and oh-so-clever (but
>>ultimately very shallow)
>> - put you on my kill list so I never have to deal with your nasty
>>posts again
>
>also add
> - declare anything you wrote automatically wrong
I completely disagree with that addition.
>>I actually care if the term used is Trekkie or Trekker
>
>... because I know the difference between the two terms. :-)
>(for the uninitiated, Trekker is "normal", while "Trekkies" wear Spock ears
>and do the Vulcan salute on everyone while wearing Starfleet uniforms, so
>goes the story)
Let me get this straight: it's okay for you to practice snobbery
(despite your attempt to hide it by using quoation marks around
"normal") but I'M a troll......hmmmm....okay.
It makes sense now...
I guess I'll put away my ears
>>I will be so uncritical of ST that I will
>> - not acknowledge that - although the characters and performances
>>are great - most of the actors in the ST family aren't good enough to
>>get decent jobs outside the franchise
>
>As most of Star Trek's crew were accomplished actors/actresses before they
>joined the crew, this is a myth that Trek critics tend to sprout. Kindly
>remind them that all the leading roles are famous BEFORE joining Trek. :-)
>Let's see... Shatner (Bros. Karamasov+others), Nimoy ("The Lieutenant" +
>others), DeForest Kelley (various Westerns), Avery Brooks (Spencer for Hire,
>Hawk), and Kate Mulgrew (Ryan's Hope + other soaps). Yeah, that should just
>about cover it.
If that is your idea of famous, then every two-bit actor doing
children's theatre should take heart.
>> - defend Roddenberry's great "vision" while ignoring that ST is
>>great in spite of, not because of him...that he may have been a great
>>humanitarian but he was a lousy dramatist (I will refuse to credit
>>Fontana, Coon, and all the REAL writers)
>
>Well, someone has to invent the world for people to play in first. That Gene
>invited such talented people only adds to his vision. :-)
Roddenbery wrote lyrics to the Star Trek theme so he could cut into
Courage's profits. There is a lot of talented people who never got
their due. Roddenberry was a walking PR machine.
>>I will act big and talk tough on the net, even though in real life I'm
>> - a 98 pound weakling
>> - 12 years old
>> - a hefty adult...but the owner of a homemade Starfleet uniform
>
>Add "a pair of Spock ears" to the list.
I could have said phaser made of wood and black shoe polish...but I
had to draw the line somewhere.
>>I have no sense of humor
>>I felt angry at Shatner for doing that Saturday Night skit where he
>>told the Trekkies to "get a life'.....instead of laughing my ass off
>
>The punchline is a lot funnier. ("That was the evil Captain Kirk speaking.")
I was laughing so hard I missed it. It sounds like a Trekker added
that line so the fans at hope wouldn't get too upset. Or is that
Trekkie...I still can't get them straight..
.
>>I DIDN'T laugh my ass off at Shadner's rendition of Lucy in the
>>Sky...but, instead, found it a moving experience
>
>Never heard it, so I can't tell you. :-)
Trust me on this one.
>>I actually spent money on
>> - a serious of novels just because Shatner's name was on them
>> - an album so I could hear Spiner "sing"
>> - a Klingon dictionary
>
>Actually, the most useless Star Trek novelty I've seen... Hmmm... Yeah,
>computer "decorations" like a Starfleet "mouse cover" and a "Shuttlecraft"
>diskette holder.
Since I own those, I would argue that the cover keeps the dust out and
the holder keeps the disks from falling all over the floor.
>>I talk about how progressive ST is by crediting it with the first
>>interracial kiss on TV.....completely ignoring what a cop out it was
>>because it was a "forced" kiss
>
>Does it matter?
Yes. It would have been truely progressive to indicate people of
different "races" (yes, I know it's a dumbass term) didn't MIND
kissing.
>>I NEVER get tired of Nichelle's Martin Luther King anecdote
>
>It did kinda grew over the years. :-)
>
>>My stomach didn't turn when Imagine was done as an opera tune on that
>>embarrassing TV special
>
>Don't recall it...
>
>>I didn't find that TV special embarrassing
>
>Don't recall seeing it...
>
>>I accept ST as a philosophy of life instead of the average science
>>fiction and excellent fantasy that it is
>
>Add "I bought the book _Make it so!_ Management philosophy on TNG hoping to
>improve myself."
I hope to God that was meant as satire.
>>I am hated because I am a fanatic.
>
>Aren't fanatics those who got things done when other people said it couldn't
>be done? :-)
No. Fanatics are crazy people with googly eyes who wear beanie caps
with blades on the top.
>>My name is.....(if you were the least bit pissed off by this post,
>>fill your name in here)
>
>>If you recognized this post as the fluff that it is...have yourself a
>>brew.
>
>Make it a Raktajino. (If you know what that is, you're definitely more than
>a casual Trekker!)
I'm a HARDCORE Trekker...and if you say otherwise I'll hit you with my
klon peags.
>>And a piece of cake while you're at it.
>
>And just for fun, Rokeg blood pie.
>
>>Live long and prosper and all that crap...
>
>Amen, even though I'm not Christian.
Thank God for that.
Glengarry
>>I love Star Trek.
>
> How can you say that?! When you're missing so much!
>
>> - throw a hissy fit
>> - call you names
>> - call attention to your typos
>> - say something short, smarmy, glip, and oh-so-clever (but
>>ultimately very shallow)
>> - put you on my kill list so I never have to deal with your nasty
>>posts again
Nice one.
> - threaten you in Klingon and not for one moment feel embarassed or
>self-concious saying it.
Another good one.
>>I will act big and talk tough on the net, even though in real life I'm
>> - a 98 pound weakling
>> - 12 years old
>> - a hefty adult...but the owner of a homemade starfleet uniform
>- or a Klingon uniform and associated regalia.
>- or a wardrobe of *all* Starfleet uniforms that I wear on a daily
>basis.
This has stopped being funny. A woman was kicked off of jury duty
because she insisted on wearing her starfleet uniform to counrt
everyday.
True story. But I forget where it happened.
Probably Buffalo.
>- dream about being a Vulcan.
>
>>I actually spent money on
>> - a serious of novels just because Shatner's name was on them
>> - an album so I could hear Spiner "sing"
>> - a Klingon dictionary
>- anything else that has "Star Trek" written on it.
>
>>I didn't find that TV special embarrassing
>- in fact, I found it moving.
Even when Joan Collins said "I wonder if Edith had lived, if she and
Kirk wouldn't have remained together forever" and looked at Shatner in
the audience, obviously waiting for a response...and got nothing but
stony silence.
Shatner was probably pissed off that Collin's wig was better than his.
> Chris
David E. Sluss
G>This has stopped being funny. A woman was kicked off of jury duty
G>because she insisted on wearing her starfleet uniform to counrt
G>everyday. True story. But I forget where it happened.
G>Probably Buffalo.
Nah, it was one of the Whitewater trials. I forget which case or who
the defendant was (Jim Guy Tucker, I think). The juror in quesion was
not booted because of her attire, but because she spoke to the media
about it, against the judge's orders. You'd have to act a lot more
bizarre than that to get kicked off a jury, else there would never be
enough jurors for all the faking. So, trekkies, wearing full regalia
will not get you out of jury duty.
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Paul
I can agree with "not worshipping it" since I don't. I didn't take any
of your earlier post personally (though this follow-up one I did). And
I did see a lot of the dark humor in many of your comments. That still
didn't change the fact that most of the post was inflammatory,
in-yer-face, anti-Trek stuff. It does strike me as a bit odd that you
would expect me to read humor into your statements, but you didn't read
any into mine.
Despite that, I learned a few things from your post. There was some
show details there I hadn't noticed on my own. Guess you're a bigger
fan than I am. Now isn't that ironic...
-Paul
(Sipping on his Diet Pepsi and preparing to go watch his daughter's
soccer game -- even though he'll miss tonight's Trek re-run in the
process. And no, he's not even taping it! So much for fan devotion.)
Paul
> > - not acknowledge that - although the characters and performances
> >are great - most of the actors in the ST family aren't good enough to
> >get decent jobs outside the franchise
>
> As most of Star Trek's crew were accomplished actors/actresses before they
> joined the crew, this is a myth that Trek critics tend to sprout. Kindly
> remind them that all the leading roles are famous BEFORE joining Trek. :-)
> Let's see... Shatner (Bros. Karamasov+others), Nimoy ("The Lieutenant" +
> others), DeForest Kelley (various Westerns), Avery Brooks (Spencer for Hire,
> Hawk), and Kate Mulgrew (Ryan's Hope + other soaps). Yeah, that should just
> about cover it.
Now, now. Did you forget Shatner's successful "T.J. Hooker" series? Or
maybe that was an intentional mental block. And let us not forget Jimmy
Doohan's role as a soap opera villain.
> >I felt angry at Shatner for doing that Saturday Night skit where he
> >told the Trekkies to "get a life'.....instead of laughing my ass off
>
> The punchline is a lot funnier. ("That was the evil Captain Kirk speaking.")
Actually, I thought the funnier scene was the Enterprise made up as some
sort of Love Boat in space. My favorite exchange was when Kirk
(Shatner) sees a woman choking and says something like: "Bones. Quick.
That woman -- is choking." The actor playing McCoy then turns and
says: "Dammit, Jim. I'm a doctor not a -- OH!"
> >I DIDN'T laugh my ass off at Shadner's rendition of Lucy in the
> >Sky...but, instead, found it a moving experience
>
> Never heard it, so I can't tell you. :-)
>
You should get a copy of it. It is great! So is his rendition of Mr.
Tamborine Man. I also like Nimoy's attempts at songs like Proud Mary
and If I Had a Hammer. Classic stuff! Hard to believe these guys never
won grammys...
> >I talk about how progressive ST is by crediting it with the first
> >interracial kiss on TV.....completely ignoring what a cop out it was
> >because it was a "forced" kiss
>
> Does it matter?
>
I know I wouldn't have minded someone forcing me to kiss Uhura. But,
that's probably because, being a Trek fan, I never get any.
*smirk*
-Paul
Paul
>
> This has stopped being funny. A woman was kicked off of jury duty
> True story. But I forget where it happened.
Actually, I think it was one of the people being interviewed to sit on
the O.J. jury. I had hoped it was the lady's attempt to avoid jury
duty. I certainly HOPE she planned it that way...
Glengarry
>I can agree with "not worshipping it" since I don't. I didn't take any
>of your earlier post personally (though this follow-up one I did). And
>I did see a lot of the dark humor in many of your comments. That still
>didn't change the fact that most of the post was inflammatory,
>in-yer-face, anti-Trek stuff.
I disagree (so what else is new). It is not a "fact" just because
some overly sensitive fans took it that way. But if it was anti-Trek,
so what? We all love Trek...we all hate it. It's a Zen thing.
(And no, I have no idea what the hell I meant by that).
> It does strike me as a bit odd that you
>would expect me to read humor into your statements, but you didn't read
>any into mine.
Before the interesting responses started to come in, I was wading
through the insane stuff. Guess I was still in a" Bite Me Fan Boy"
mood when I came across yours.
I went back to your original post later...and laughed so hard my
plastic ears fell off.
>Despite that, I learned a few things from your post. There was some
>show details there I hadn't noticed on my own. Guess you're a bigger
>fan than I am. Now isn't that ironic...
Never denied liking the show. Never will.
Inspektor1
>Doohan's role as a soap opera villain.
He was not a villain... He was the father of one of the regular characters on
Bold and the Beautiful (the psycharist guy, what's his name.) And he did a
beautiful job. Everyone else looked like a hack next to him... Wait a sec,
did I just admit to watching soaps?
Cheers,
The Inspector
Inspektor1
>sort of Love Boat in space. My favorite exchange was when Kirk
>(Shatner) sees a woman choking and says something like: "Bones. Quick.
>That woman -- is choking." The actor playing McCoy then turns and
>says: "Dammit, Jim. I'm a doctor not a -- OH!"
Actually that was the "Kahn" takeoff where the Enterprise was a revolving
restaurant in space. Patrick Stewart did the Love Boat Enterprise take off and
yes, both were drop dead funny.
Cheers,
The Inspector
SJohnson
In front of thousands, friend, in front of THOUSANDS!!
SJohnson
Kevin Kitching
wrote:
[snip]
>>- or a wardrobe of *all* Starfleet uniforms that I wear on a daily
>>basis.
>
>This has stopped being funny. A woman was kicked off of jury duty
>because she insisted on wearing her starfleet uniform to counrt
>everyday.
>True story. But I forget where it happened.
>Probably Buffalo.
And my Aunt says *I'm* obsessed...I may loose a little sleep staying
up til 1 am to watch DS9, and am practically drooling with
anticipation at Sci-Fi Channel's run of TOS in order and un-cut.
Sure, I can probably spot an actor who's done a guest shot on Trek. I
admit that I can tell you where Enterprise-D was built, why a Jeffries
Tube is called that, and that the TOS laser scalpel prop is really a
salt shaker.
But that woman is just (in my kinda humble opinion) is Off her rocker!
Of course, I stopped wanting to own a Trek uniforn when I was about 14
- though I wouldn't mind renting one for a costume party or some such.
However, I have stooped going to conventions, and went to another
theater to see First Contact when the first one I went to was swarming
with costumes. I also am very leery of Star Trek: The Experience
because of the 'Costumed Star-Trek-is-my-Reality-All-I-can-Discuss-is
Star-Trek' crowd.
I don't have anything against the 85% of folks that own and wear their
costumes - they seem to realize that in the end, this is a hobby. But
the other 15% that either annoy me or just make me want to be
somewhere else.
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Unzadi
>> - a 98 pound weakling
>> - 12 years old
>> - a hefty adult...but the owner of a homemade starfleet uniform
>- or a Klingon uniform and associated regalia.
>basis.
And do not recieve a paycheque from Paramount.
Anna
Amanda
>>This has stopped being funny. A woman was kicked off of jury duty
>>because she insisted on wearing her starfleet uniform to counrt
>>everyday.
>>True story. But I forget where it happened.
>>Probably Buffalo.
>
>And my Aunt says *I'm* obsessed...I may loose a little sleep staying
>up til 1 am to watch DS9, and am practically drooling with
>anticipation at Sci-Fi Channel's run of TOS in order and un-cut.
>Sure, I can probably spot an actor who's done a guest shot on Trek. I
>admit that I can tell you where Enterprise-D was built, why a Jeffries
>Tube is called that, and that the TOS laser scalpel prop is really a
>salt shaker.
>
>But that woman is just (in my kinda humble opinion) is Off her rocker!
LOL
Here is the REAL litmus test: Have you ever ended a really successful
date by saying "Live long and prosper"?
Jonathan J. Hunt
>Glengarry wrote:
>>
>> >
>> ><detailed statements snipped for the sake of sanity>
>> >
>> >For someone who projects such a hatred toward Star Trek and its fans,
>> >you sure seem to know a lot about it...
>>
>> I seem to project hatred because 1) you are overly sensitive to
>> critical remarks and 2) took the last post way too seriously...as your
>> attempt to save our sanity proves.
>>
>> Relax, Paul. We can enjoy ST a hell of a lot with worshipping it
>
>
>of your earlier post personally (though this follow-up one I did). And
>I did see a lot of the dark humor in many of your comments. That still
>didn't change the fact that most of the post was inflammatory,
>would expect me to read humor into your statements, but you didn't read
>any into mine.
I don't really think he said a word of anti-trek stuff. He made some
legitimate critical observations. It's ok to give a critical analysis of
something you like. To point out a few of the things that aren't the
greatest about Trekdom doesn't mean you don't like it or are against it.
It's not "us" VS "them". His coments were ment to provoke some self
evaluation - something important for everyone to do now & then. There's
been times I've taken the verious entertainment I'm into, be it musical
groups or a SF show like Trek, just a little too seriously. I would
suggest that if it angers you to hear someone say something negative or
critical about that which you're a fan of then you're a little too close
to it & need to take a couple of steps back & remind yourself, "it's just
a show" or "it's just a bunch of musicians" -- not exactly a very
important factor in the final analysis of everything & certainly not worth
geting angry at someone over.
Peace,
JJH
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