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Gareth Crispell

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Jun 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/6/95
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lpe...@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (Lori Penner) wrote:
>
>Hello!!! Has... sisko! ever...... taken acting!!!! lessons?
>
>Where did they get the guy who plays Sisko???
>

>
>Lori from the planet Canada
>in the North American quadrant
>


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to and fro like sparks among the stubble.

In the first season it really bothered me the way Sisko grinned at almost
everything.I mean Dax would run up to him and say something horrible was
about to happen that would kill half of the station.... and he would have
this humongous pie eating grin on his face.It drove me nuts!! However, as
time went on he grinned less and less. This pleased me very much.

All in all, I think Sisko has quite improved as a leader.

gareth - from olde Cape Cod


Philip Richard Yabut

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Jun 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/6/95
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In article <3r0oin$1m...@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>,
Lori Penner <lpe...@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca> wrote:

>Hello!!! Has... sisko! ever...... taken acting!!!! lessons?

<yadda, yadda, yadda about Sisko>

Check out "Past Tense." I thought that was his best acting effort to
date. BTW, I happen to like Avery Brooks' acting abilities. He emanates
a sense of authority and toughness to the character.

Re: Quark

What's wrong with Quark?

Phil
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Lori Penner

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Jun 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/6/95
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Hello!!! Has... sisko! ever...... taken acting!!!! lessons?

Where did they get the guy who plays Sisko???

Good heavens!!! Kirk is 10 times to the power of ten times better then this
yahoo. He is so FLAT, he has no personality.

Hey, at least Janeway has a personality, though I don't happen to like
it, I think I even like Janeway better than Picard, But, hey DS-9 is
great except for Sisko and that Quark guy.

Cheerio!!

rna...@ptialaska.net

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Jun 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/7/95
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I think Sisko is just fine! Now Janeway on the other hand...

Mark Rathwell

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Jun 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/7/95
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: Hello!!! Has... sisko! ever...... taken acting!!!! lessons?

I thought that at first. However, I think Avery Brooks' accent is
the problem, not his acting ability. It's just the way he talks.

: Good heavens!!! Kirk is 10 times to the power of ten times better then this

: yahoo. He is so FLAT, he has no personality.

Now that is nasty.

>> Mark <<


Merceditas Castillo

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Jun 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/7/95
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rna...@ptialaska.net wrote:
: I think Sisko is just fine! Now Janeway on the other hand...


Oh, dear, here comes another debate....

DS9 has always bothered me, and the main reason for it is Sisko. I
have never thought that that guy...how shall I put this
delicately...belongs in Star Trek. He can't play the role of Commander
right. He always sticks out like a sore thumb with his acting
abilities. DS9 to me does not have an ensamble cast. Its full of
holes: Sisko, Jake, Dax, and Nog. Kira, Bashir, O'Brien, and Odo,
however do fit in. As TV Guide suggested a while ago, too bad they
can't stick the latter four on to Voyager somehow, where they fit in.

--MVC--

Alara Rogers

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Jun 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/7/95
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Lori Penner <lpe...@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca> writes:

>Hello!!! Has... sisko! ever...... taken acting!!!! lessons?
>
>Where did they get the guy who plays Sisko???
>
>Good heavens!!! Kirk is 10 times to the power of ten times better then this
>yahoo. He is so FLAT, he has no personality.

You complain that Sisko can't act, but the way you write your opening line
is a parody of Shatner, not Brooks.

I like Kirk. But Sisko has far more emotional depth. Overacting is not
personality.
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R. Tang

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Jun 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/8/95
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In article <3r5ea4$j...@garuda.csulb.edu>,
Merceditas Castillo <dita...@csulb.edu> wrote:

>rna...@ptialaska.net wrote:
> Oh, dear, here comes another debate....
>
> DS9 has always bothered me, and the main reason for it is Sisko. I
>have never thought that that guy...how shall I put this
>delicately...belongs in Star Trek. He can't play the role of Commander
>right.

Urk.

Given the absolutely braindead material he's given (little social
interaction with the rest of the crew and no scenes exploiting this), how
can you POSSIBLY say this???

> He always sticks out like a sore thumb with his acting
>abilities. DS9 to me does not have an ensamble cast. Its full of
>holes: Sisko, Jake, Dax, and Nog.

Feh. Methinks you don't have a good idea what an ensemble does;
it's a better ensemble than TNG was...
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Alan D. Earhart

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Jun 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/8/95
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Ummm.....Sisko is not an actor. Sisko is the commander of DS9.

AB is the actor. He's the one that does the acting. Considering the
general lvel of material he gets to work with I'd say he does a bag-up
job.

(Just a bit irritated today so I had to take it out on one of my fav
topics- "Sisko Sucks". Dn't read any malice into this post...)

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Alan D. Earhart

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Jun 9, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/9/95
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In article <aearhart-080...@slip3-17.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
aear...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Alan D. Earhart) wrote:

> bag-up

*sigh* should be 'bang-up'

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cap...@tlcnet.com

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Jun 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/10/95
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Avery Brooks was first used in "Spencer for hire" a fairly good P.I. show for
it's day........Brooks though is a proffesor of English Lit. at Harvard
University.....tenuered at that ...acting is a secondary vocation...as I
understand it he has taken a leave of absence to portray the character that
seems to irk you......Granted that Kirk is the the measure with which we rate
all others....but come on now William Shatner is no Academy award winner
either...and he is also no writer......perhaps Brooks and Shatner should get
together and exchange points of expertise...i.e. Brooks could teach Shatner how
to write , while Shatner taught Brooks how to be a Federation Officer......
Regards Capuera
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Peronet Despeignes

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Jun 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/11/95
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Alara Rogers (aj...@delphi.com) wrote:

: Lori Penner <lpe...@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca> writes:
:
: >Hello!!! Has... sisko! ever...... taken acting!!!! lessons?
: >
: >Where did they get the guy who plays Sisko???
: >
: >Good heavens!!! Kirk is 10 times to the power of ten times better then this
: >yahoo. He is so FLAT, he has no personality.
:
: You complain that Sisko can't act, but the way you write your opening line
: is a parody of Shatner, not Brooks.
:
: I like Kirk. But Sisko has far more emotional depth. Overacting is not
: personality.

What about his outburst in Past Tense II? I thought it was a terrible
performance. My problem with Sisko is that he seems to gyrate
radically between
unsubstantive outbursts that strike me as overacting and a sedate
indifference
during some of the most intense of situations. I see no marks of the
"subtlety" people here keep mentioning. I think he has shown potential
here and there but I just havent seen many instances of depth to his
performance (though the writers may bear some of the blame).
Some episode references would be great.

Perry D.

Peronet Despeignes

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Jun 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/11/95
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cap...@tlcnet.com wrote:

: Avery Brooks was first used in "Spencer for hire" a fairly good P.I. show for


: it's day........Brooks though is a proffesor of English Lit. at Harvard
: University.....tenuered at that ...acting is a secondary vocation...as I

Say what? He doesnt show up in my last three course catalogs as either a
professor of English Lit or as one taking a leave of absence. Do you have
any specific info on this?
Perry D.


Thad Bissett

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Jun 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/19/95
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cap...@tlcnet.com wrote:

: Avery Brooks was first used in "Spencer for hire" a fairly good P.I. show for
: it's day........Brooks though is a proffesor of English Lit. at Harvard
: University.....tenuered at that ...acting is a secondary vocation...as I

: understand it he has taken a leave of absence to portray the character that


: seems to irk you......Granted that Kirk is the the measure with which we rate
: all others....but come on now William Shatner is no Academy award winner
: either...and he is also no writer......perhaps Brooks and Shatner should get
: together and exchange points of expertise...i.e. Brooks could teach Shatner how
: to write , while Shatner taught Brooks how to be a Federation Officer......
: Regards Capuera

I would have to disagree. I think Sisko has a lot of great
potential, both as the character, and as the actor, Avery Brooks. Sisko
is firm when he has to be, yet approachable by his crew. Granted, he
does act goofy sometimes, but that is the writers' fault, mostly. As for
the rest (i.e., "You play *Dam-jaat?*), it at least is entertaining. In
my opinion, there has been very little bad acting from Avery Brooks, just
bad lines, and the occasional bad delivery. All in all, it makes me even
more impressed to learn that Brooks is an English professor at Harvard.
Means there's something up in that head. Nice to see an actor who
actually can think for him/herself, without having to be fed from a script.

Obi-Wan Kenobi

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Jun 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/22/95
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Gareth Crispell <stra...@ccsnet.com> wrote:

>lpe...@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (Lori Penner) wrote:
>>
>>Hello!!! Has... sisko! ever...... taken acting!!!! lessons?
>>
>>Where did they get the guy who plays Sisko???
>>

>In the first season it really bothered me the way Sisko grinned at almost
>everything.I mean Dax would run up to him and say something horrible was
>about to happen that would kill half of the station.... and he would have
>this humongous pie eating grin on his face.It drove me nuts!! However, as
>time went on he grinned less and less. This pleased me very much.
>
>All in all, I think Sisko has quite improved as a leader.

>gareth - from olde Cape Cod

I for one was quite surprised to realize (after several shows) why the
name Avery Brooks sounded so familiar - he was "Hawk on Spencer For
Hire." I was thrown not only by the hair and lack of dark glasses, but
also the whole demeanour. Brooks played (and still does) Sisko in such
an INCREDIBLY low-key manner (diffident? half-asleep?) that it was
hard to believe that this was the same guy who made Hawk such an
intimidating and larger-than-life character - in fact, probably my
favorite character on Spencer.


Sarah Cherlin

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Jun 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/24/95
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lpe...@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (Lori Penner) wrote:
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>Hello!!! Has... sisko! ever...... taken acting!!!! lessons?
^^^^^

You misspelled 'Kirk' ;)

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rna...@ptialaska.net

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Jun 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/25/95
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>lpe...@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (Lori Penner) wrote:
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>>Hello!!! Has... sisko! ever...... taken acting!!!! lessons?
> ^^^^^
I think Sisko is a very good actor, a lot better than laughingstock
Janeway!

Macdem Teklemariam

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Jul 4, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/4/95
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rna...@ptialaska.net wrote:


I agree Avery Brooks is an excellent actor, he outshines every other cast
member except maybe for Rene and Armin.

eni...@news.dorsai.org

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Macdem Teklemariam (mtek...@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca) wrote:
: rna...@ptialaska.net wrote:

: : Janeway!


: I agree Avery Brooks is an excellent actor, he outshines every other cast
: member except maybe for Rene and Armin.

Whatever one thinks about Avery Brooks as Sisko (and I think he's great)
U gotta catch him when he shows up at a convention. He's such a great
speaker..very dignified.

Victor

Mary Draganis

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Jul 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/8/95
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In article <3ta3rm$9...@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>,
mtek...@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (Macdem Teklemariam) wrote:

MT> I agree Avery Brooks is an excellent actor, he outshines every other cast
MT> member except maybe for Rene and Armin.

I find that Nana, Rene and Avery are the three most strongest actors and
also their characters are the most interesting.

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Jul 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/13/95
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I don't think I like Commander Sisko's (sorry, Captain; I'll have to get
used to that one) character, but nothing is wrong with Avery Brooks. He's
a fine actor.

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lor...@halcyon.com

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Jul 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/15/95
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> a027...@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us (Leonard Balsera) writes:
> but nothing is wrong with Avery Brooks. He's
> a fine actor.

I like Avery Brooks, too. He's a good actor, director... and from what I've
heard, he's not a bad professor of English lit at Harvard.

But I also like Sisko.

Brian Olson
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Philip Richard Yabut

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Jul 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/16/95
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In article <3u91au$b...@news.halcyon.com>, <lor...@halcyon.com> wrote:
>I like Avery Brooks, too. He's a good actor, director... and from what I've
>heard, he's not a bad professor of English lit at Harvard.

Rutgers (NJ), not Harvard. And I don't think it's English lit. either.

Phil
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Peronet Despeignes

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Jul 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/18/95
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R. Tang (gwan...@u.washington.edu) wrote:
: In article <3uf338$o...@decaxp.harvard.edu>,
: Peronet Despeignes <desp...@scws31.harvard.edu> wrote:
: >You're right. It isnt. It's theater arts. Found this on the university
: >of virginia gopher...
: >
: >Name: Avery Franklin Brooks +AFB1+, Theater Arts, Mason Gross School
: >of the Arts, Faculty and Staff Directory, Rutgers University, New
: >Jersey, US
: >
: > "Avery Franklin Brooks +AFB1+"
: > commonName: Avery Franklin Brooks +AFB1+
: > surname: Brooks
: > title: Assoc Professor
: ^^^^^

: Heh. Tenured.

: And an email account, too, it looks like....

: (Whoops. Was that the Rutgers server in the A&S department going down?).

If this stays up any longer, it probably will. :)

Perry D.


David A. Berkowitz

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Jul 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/18/95
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>: I like Avery Brooks, too. He's a good actor, director... and from what I've

>: heard, he's not a bad professor of English lit at Harvard.
>
>He is? He's not listed as a member of the faculty as far as I know.

I don't think it's at Harvard that Brooks was teaching. Perhaps it was
Boston College. Certainly it was somewhere in that area.

I remember reading the reference in TV Guide prior to DS9's premiere.

DAB


Peronet Despeignes

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Jul 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/18/95
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lor...@halcyon.com wrote:

: > a027...@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us (Leonard Balsera) writes:
: > but nothing is wrong with Avery Brooks. He's
: > a fine actor.

: I like Avery Brooks, too. He's a good actor, director... and from what I've


: heard, he's not a bad professor of English lit at Harvard.

He is? He's not listed as a member of the faculty as far as I know.

Perry D.


R. Tang

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Jul 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/18/95
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In article <3uf338$o...@decaxp.harvard.edu>,
Peronet Despeignes <desp...@scws31.harvard.edu> wrote:
>You're right. It isnt. It's theater arts. Found this on the university
>of virginia gopher...
>
>Name: Avery Franklin Brooks +AFB1+, Theater Arts, Mason Gross School
>of the Arts, Faculty and Staff Directory, Rutgers University, New
>Jersey, US
>
> "Avery Franklin Brooks +AFB1+"
> commonName: Avery Franklin Brooks +AFB1+
> surname: Brooks
> title: Assoc Professor
^^^^^

Heh. Tenured.

And an email account, too, it looks like....

(Whoops. Was that the Rutgers server in the A&S department going down?).

Peronet Despeignes

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Jul 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/18/95
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Philip Richard Yabut (fr...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu) wrote:

: In article <3u91au$b...@news.halcyon.com>, <lor...@halcyon.com> wrote:
: >I like Avery Brooks, too. He's a good actor, director... and from what I've
: >heard, he's not a bad professor of English lit at Harvard.

: Rutgers (NJ), not Harvard. And I don't think it's English lit. either.

You're right. It isnt. It's theater arts. Found this on the university
of virginia gopher...

____

Name: Avery Franklin Brooks +AFB1+, Theater Arts, Mason Gross School
of the Arts, Faculty and Staff Directory, Rutgers University, New
Jersey, US

"Avery Franklin Brooks +AFB1+"
commonName: Avery Franklin Brooks +AFB1+
surname: Brooks
title: Assoc Professor

postalAddress: Room 202, Carriage House,
Douglass Campus,
Rutgers University,
New Brunswick, NJ 08903
telephoneNumber: +1 908-932-9891
userid: +AFB1+
lastUpdateTime: 950711230124Z


____

End of speculation.

Perry D.

lor...@halcyon.com

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Jul 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/20/95
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> fr...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Philip Richard Yabut) writes:
> Rutgers (NJ), not Harvard. And I don't think it's English lit. either.


Really? I thought it was Harvard. Ah well...<G>

Brian Olson
lor...@halcyon.com


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