*Alexander* Siddig
Sean C. Duncan
listed as playing Dr. Julian Bashir.
So, I guess (1) there was already a Siddig El Fadil in the union and he
was forced to change his name (2) Alexander Siddig is his real name and
Siddig El Fadil was his stage name (3) the Paramount folks screwed up
an actors name that they hadn't screwed up for 3 years or (4) Sid felt
like it was time for a bland stage name.
Somehow, I think (4) is most likely.
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Jennifer Whildin
Duncan) writes:
>
>What's up with this? The DS9 press releases have *Alexander* Siddig
>listed as playing Dr. Julian Bashir.
>
>So, I guess (1) there was already a Siddig El Fadil in the union and
he
>was forced to change his name (2) Alexander Siddig is his real name
and
>Siddig El Fadil was his stage name (3) the Paramount folks screwed up
>an actors name that they hadn't screwed up for 3 years or (4) Sid felt
>like it was time for a bland stage name.
>
>Somehow, I think (4) is most likely.
>
>Sean
You win the big, fuzzy teddy bear, Sean! That's it! Although I don't
think he meant for it to be bland! ;>
Jen
The Tetrad
>>
>>What's up with this? The DS9 press releases have *Alexander* Siddig
>>listed as playing Dr. Julian Bashir.
My guess is that poor Sid tried to get other US acting jobs under Siddig El
Fadil and no casting coordinator could believe he had a reasonable command of
English, let alone a British accent. It's amazing how people in this country
have no concept of the linguistic abilities of those who live overseas . . .
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In article <44einp$3...@infoserver.bgsu.edu>, se...@bgsuvax.bgsu.edu (Sean C. Duncan) writes:
<What's up with this? The DS9 press releases have *Alexander* Siddig
<listed as playing Dr. Julian Bashir.
<
<was forced to change his name (2) Alexander Siddig is his real name and
<Siddig El Fadil was his stage name (3) the Paramount folks screwed up
<an actors name that they hadn't screwed up for 3 years or (4) Sid felt
<like it was time for a bland stage name.
<
<Somehow, I think (4) is most likely.
It is close to #4. Read the new TV Guide, the one with Sisko and Worf on
the cover.
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>What's up with this? The DS9 press releases have *Alexander* Siddig
>listed as playing Dr. Julian Bashir.
>So, I guess (1) there was already a Siddig El Fadil in the union and he
>was forced to change his name (2) Alexander Siddig is his real name and
>Siddig El Fadil was his stage name (3) the Paramount folks screwed up
>an actors name that they hadn't screwed up for 3 years or (4) Sid felt
>like it was time for a bland stage name.
>Somehow, I think (4) is most likely.
>--
>Sean
Actually, according to an interview in the latest TV Guide, El Fadil was
annoyed with the fact that people on the set still couldn't pronounce his
name properly after three years and decided to change it to something more
Western. 'Alexander' is the name his mother originally wanted to give him.
-----
Lewis Edwards
ledw...@HiWAAY.net
Christopher Taggi
: se...@bgsuvax.bgsu.edu (Sean C. Duncan) wrote:
: >What's up with this? The DS9 press releases have *Alexander* Siddig
: >listed as playing Dr. Julian Bashir.
: >So, I guess (1) there was already a Siddig El Fadil in the union and he
: >was forced to change his name (2) Alexander Siddig is his real name and
: >Siddig El Fadil was his stage name (3) the Paramount folks screwed up
: >an actors name that they hadn't screwed up for 3 years or (4) Sid felt
: >like it was time for a bland stage name.
: >Somehow, I think (4) is most likely.
The reason he changed his name was so it would not be so ethnic-sounding
anymore. Americans like Wonder Bread. And they like television stars
who have Wonder Bread names. "Alex" sure fits that bill, whereas "Siddig
El Fadil" certainly does not.
linv...@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
: annoyed with the fact that people on the set still couldn't pronounce his
: name properly after three years and decided to change it to something more
: Western. 'Alexander' is the name his mother originally wanted to give him.
: -----
: Lewis Edwards
: ledw...@HiWAAY.net
One thing I learned in this life is Mom's always right....(sooner or later)
Scott Johnson
Jennifer Whildin <jwhi...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>In <44einp$3...@infoserver.bgsu.edu> se...@bgsuvax.bgsu.edu (Sean C.
>Duncan) writes:
>>
>>What's up with this? The DS9 press releases have *Alexander* Siddig
>>listed as playing Dr. Julian Bashir.
>>
>>So, I guess (1) there was already a Siddig El Fadil in the union and
>he
>>was forced to change his name (2) Alexander Siddig is his real name
>and
>>Siddig El Fadil was his stage name (3) the Paramount folks screwed up
>>an actors name that they hadn't screwed up for 3 years or (4) Sid felt
>>like it was time for a bland stage name.
>>
>>Somehow, I think (4) is most likely.
>>
>>Sean
>
>You win the big, fuzzy teddy bear, Sean! That's it! Although I don't
>think he meant for it to be bland! ;>
It is, though. And its a pity.
I don't think that ASEB has the same ring to it.....
/sj/
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who thinks that he alone is a freethinker, and all others are fools.
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: But there has never been *ANY* Indian, even though Indians are
: the *SECOND* highest paid Minority and the *MOST* educated one.
Who the fuck cares? I don't want an ethnic checklist in the casting.
Voyager has already stretched out with having a female captain and a
native american.
You should be more concerned with stories which actually do more with
these overlarge casts besides relagate most of them to basic
following-orders tasks each week. What good is it if you have every race
represented in a huge cast if each member has nothing to say each week
beyond something like "hailing frequencies open, sir".
Jim Benton
: : >What's up with this? The DS9 press releases have *Alexander* Siddig
: : >listed as playing Dr. Julian Bashir.
: : >So, I guess (1) there was already a Siddig El Fadil in the union and he
: : >was forced to change his name (2) Alexander Siddig is his real name and
: : >Siddig El Fadil was his stage name (3) the Paramount folks screwed up
: : >an actors name that they hadn't screwed up for 3 years or (4) Sid felt
: : >like it was time for a bland stage name.
: : >Somehow, I think (4) is most likely.
: The reason he changed his name was so it would not be so ethnic-sounding
: anymore. Americans like Wonder Bread. And they like television stars
: who have Wonder Bread names. "Alex" sure fits that bill, whereas "Siddig
: El Fadil" certainly does not.
The usual pop cynicism, and quite idiotic, I'm afraid. It WAS true once,
for MOVIE stars, but even that has changed. These days, ethnicity is
in, and names are rarely changed for such purposes. After all, Shatner,
Nimoy, Boxleitner, Danza, DeGeneres, Cleghorne, Amandes, Leoni, Benzali,
these are not "Wonder Bread" names.
And you can't forget Costas Mandylor (Kenny on PICKETT FENCES.)
For me, I have no problem believing someone who simply says he picked the
new name because he was tired of the old one being mispronounced.
Jim
Jim Benton
The sad thing is that his bigotry hides the fact that his main point
that Indians (AND Pakistanis) are among the least represented groups on
television (and films, music, and politics) is true. However, I see
that, for once, on last night's PICKET FENCES (taped but not watched
yet, couldn't miss tthe Playoffs) a character is described as an "Asian"
and turns out to be Indian or Pakisttani, not South East Asian.
Jim Benton
an25...@anon.penet.fi wrote:
: se...@bgsuvax.bgsu.edu (Sean C. Duncan) wrote:
: >What's up with this? The DS9 press releases have *Alexander* Siddig
: >listed as playing Dr. Julian Bashir.
: >
: >So, I guess (1) there was already a Siddig El Fadil in the union and he
: >was forced to change his name (2) Alexander Siddig is his real name and
: >Siddig El Fadil was his stage name (3) the Paramount folks screwed up
: >an actors name that they hadn't screwed up for 3 years or (4) Sid felt
: >like it was time for a bland stage name.
: >
: >Somehow, I think (4) is most likely.
: I suspect that the paki bastard is hide his obnoxious
: Moslem heritage by changing his name.
: There are 2 blacks in DS9, 2 blacks in TNG, 1 black in VOY
: and 1 on TOS.
: There were 1 Chinese/Jap in DS9 (season 1 and 2), 1 Chinese/Jap in VOY
: 1 on TOS, and one Nurse Ogawa who was on frequently (changing bedpans)
: whenever they had casulties.
: But there has never been *ANY* Indian, even though Indians are
: the *SECOND* highest paid Minority and the *MOST* educated one.
: In fact all I see on ST are Brits, Canadian, Jews, Blacks Chinese
: and paki.
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: I suspect that the paki bastard is hide his obnoxious
: Moslem heritage by changing his name.
That's Sudanese to you, jerk, can't even get the continent right. I'm
not even sure he's a Moslem (although that doesn't matter one iota). Much
of Sudan is Christian.
: There were 1 Chinese/Jap in DS9 (season 1 and 2), 1 Chinese/Jap in VOY
Japanese (Keiko, DS9) and Korean-American (Lt. Harry Kim, Voyager). One has
to wonder why you *ever* even bothered to watch Trek at all.
: But there has never been *ANY* Indian, even though Indians are
: the *SECOND* highest paid Minority and the *MOST* educated one.
And there are more Chinese people in the world than Indians, and there
haven't exactly been a lot of them in Trek. Besides, there was an
Indian engineer in TNG (Lt. Singh, I think, unless Sikhs don't count).
You've amply displayed your incredible ignorance, a common failing of
most racists. Now why don't you take your racist bullshit somewhere
else and leave us out of it?
--lanshark
Jennifer Renee Hillger
to that!!) is half-Sudanese, half English. He was raised in England (hence
the accent). Malcom McDowell is his uncle. Now lay off.
Thomas Stringfield
>From: lans...@scf.nmsu.edu (lanshark)
>Subject: Re: *Alexander* Siddig
>Date: 8 Oct 1995 17:04:38 GMT
[snip]
>: There were 1 Chinese/Jap in DS9 (season 1 and 2), 1 Chinese/Jap in VOY
>Japanese (Keiko, DS9) and Korean-American (Lt. Harry Kim, Voyager). One has
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So when was Harry promoted? I must have missed that episode. :)
Jennikatra
> an25...@anon.penet.fi, coward hiding behind an anonymous address, wrote:
> : I suspect that the paki bastard is hide his obnoxious
> : Moslem heritage by changing his name.
Ooh, the little shit is a bit aggressive, isn't he? Even I, who's
unthrilled by Islam, have the taste not to make a comment like that. But
then, I don't need to hide behind one of those anon addresses. <smirk>
> That's Sudanese to you, jerk, can't even get the continent right. I'm
> not even sure he's a Moslem (although that doesn't matter one iota). Much
> of Sudan is Christian.
Oh, but that wouldn't matter, would it? If he's a "paki" and "Moslem,"
according to animals like this, then that's what he *must* be, and don't
let facts intrude. <gack>
> : There were 1 Chinese/Jap in DS9 (season 1 and 2), 1 Chinese/Jap in VOY
And you have a problem with this, of course. What about the Russian in TOS?
> Japanese (Keiko, DS9) and Korean-American (Lt. Harry Kim, Voyager). One has
> to wonder why you *ever* even bothered to watch Trek at all.
Also, I wonder how feeble-minded people like the anon one here reacted to
the Challenger shuttle accident in '86... if they were just glad that a
black, a Hawaiian-Japanese, etc. got killed? Heh. I do wonder what the
brats who scream about black Vulcans, etc. think of the occasional varied
NASA crew...
> : But there has never been *ANY* Indian, even though Indians are
> : the *SECOND* highest paid Minority and the *MOST* educated one.
> And there are more Chinese people in the world than Indians, and there
> haven't exactly been a lot of them in Trek. Besides, there was an
> Indian engineer in TNG (Lt. Singh, I think, unless Sikhs don't count).
They probably don't.
> You've amply displayed your incredible ignorance, a common failing of
> most racists. Now why don't you take your racist bullshit somewhere
> else and leave us out of it?
Good for you, lanshark. Yes, anon, go away and play somewhere else.
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> : >What's up with this? The DS9 press releases have *Alexander* Siddig
> : >listed as playing Dr. Julian Bashir.
>
> anymore. Americans like Wonder Bread. And they like television stars
> who have Wonder Bread names. "Alex" sure fits that bill, whereas "Siddig
> El Fadil" certainly does not.
>
1)he was drunk :)
2)After three years STILL no one can pronounce his name.
3)His mother originally wanted to name him Alexander.
4)He likes being a pain in the ass. (Now they'll have to change all the DS9
merchandise.)
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Tania
>
>: I suspect that the paki bastard is hide his obnoxious
>: Moslem heritage by changing his name.
What is the point of being into Star Trek if you are a racist?
If you can't say nice things about fellow humans, what would you
be like towards aliens? How can you like the idea of beings from other
planets, but not be able to deal with beings from your own planet?
Siddig El Fadil can call himself whatever the hell he wants. How does
it affect you? Hypocrite!
From Tania (who doesn't need to hide behind a fake address)