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Brad Carlson

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Oct 28, 1992, 11:39:13 PM10/28/92
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Is it just me, or does the camera add 20 pounds to her butt?
How about sticking a skirt on her ... or would that not be
proper Starfleet protocol?

Engage,

bc


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jni...@opie.bgsu.edu

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Oct 29, 1992, 9:02:40 AM10/29/92
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In article <Bwv8x...@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, baca...@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brad Carlson) writes:
> Is it just me, or does the camera add 20 pounds to her butt?
> How about sticking a skirt on her ... or would that not be
> proper Starfleet protocol?
>
That is disgusting and sexist. You're really in trouble now, because I
cross-posted this reply to soc.women!

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Kirstin E. Wells

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Oct 29, 1992, 9:41:17 AM10/29/92
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> Is it just me, or does the camera add 20 pounds to her butt?
> How about sticking a skirt on her ... or would that not be
> proper Starfleet protocol?
>
> Engage,
>
> bc
>
HELLO BRAD-This is the 90's...your comment on Troi's butt
is inappropriate and offensive. When are we going to stop
judging women on the basis of their body parts, and why shouldn't
she wear whatever the hell she wants?

kw

Lisamarie Gemma Babik

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Oct 29, 1992, 12:40:38 PM10/29/92
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During one of the seasons she *did* wear a dress/skirt thingy. It was much
more flattering for her figure, and I really wish they'd switch her back!

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matth...@cubldr.colorado.edu

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Oct 29, 1992, 11:58:12 AM10/29/92
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OH GOD NO! NOT ANOTHER TROI IS OVERWEIGHT THREAD! DIDN'T WE JUST HAVE
THIS CONVERSATION?

Whew! I feel better now. Brad, my dear, nobody wants to hear anyone bitch
about the characters weight! They're human, they gain weight, they lose weight
just like normal, everyday people. Are you perfect? If so, you have the
right to start this silly thread up again (for the 400th time this year!).
If not, can it!

Kellie M-S
internet::matth...@cubldr.colorado.edu

Tim Dodd

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Oct 29, 1992, 2:03:49 PM10/29/92
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In article <1992Oct29...@opie.bgsu.edu> jni...@opie.bgsu.edu writes:
>In article <Bwv8x...@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, baca...@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brad Carlson) writes:
>> Is it just me, or does the camera add 20 pounds to her butt?
>> How about sticking a skirt on her ... or would that not be
>> proper Starfleet protocol?
>>
>That is disgusting and sexist. You're really in trouble now, because I
>cross-posted this reply to soc.women!

It cannot be sexist to state the truth. If I were to observe that
"Tubby" Riker is slightly overweight, I would not be accused of sexism.
But by your reasoning, if I were to make the same observation about
Troi, even if she weighed 300 lbs., I would be guilty of a sexist remark.
How does this follow?

Tim
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Joshua D. Moore

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Oct 29, 1992, 2:46:14 PM10/29/92
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i did not write either of these but i think i should comment. how come we
can't make any comments about a woman on star trek, or anywhere else
without being called sexist or jeuvinille? first i think that the
majority of these observations are more than a little tongue in cheek
(pardon the pun) and they aren't really all that serious. and i dont
really think that it is sexist to notice the figure of a woman. i find it
hard to believe that all you people out there that cry out sexism dont
notice the butt of a member of the opposite sex, or same sex whatever you
prefer (lord knows i dont want to be branded a homophobe as well as a
jeuvenile sexist) why dont all you people relax and stop trying to be so
mature and politically correct. i have discovered that being politically
incorrect is much much more fun.

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intended to be sexist)
-Lobo

James Willer

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Oct 29, 1992, 3:12:17 PM10/29/92
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Q: How many Eco-Feminists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
A: THAT'S *NOT* FUNNY!!!

Disclaimer:
This joke was told to me by my wife. We are both *strong* supporters
of both Feminism *and* the Environment.
I just use it to illustrate that some people occasionally need to lighten
up.

James Willer
[any opinions above should be those of right-thinking people everywhere]

W.O. Khan

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Oct 29, 1992, 5:58:40 PM10/29/92
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It's America and that guy can say anything he likes about Troi's butt.

Noah Ban

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Oct 29, 1992, 5:55:36 PM10/29/92
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The other day I heard something important to consider on PC:

PC turns the white male into an endangered species. But it is PC to love
an endangered species.

So here's to the return of the white male!


Marvin Batty

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Oct 29, 1992, 2:28:14 PM10/29/92
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And that is ABSOLUTELY the last time I comment on this!

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;;;;7202

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Oct 30, 1992, 4:00:11 AM10/30/92
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In article <1992Oct29....@gw.wmich.edu> 91b...@gw.wmich.edu

(Lisamarie Gemma Babik) writes:
>In article <Bwv8x...@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>,
baca...@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brad Carlson) writes:
>> Is it just me, or does the camera add 20 pounds to her butt?
>> How about sticking a skirt on her ... or would that not be
>> proper Starfleet protocol?

>During one of the seasons she *did* wear a dress/skirt thingy. It was much
>more flattering for her figure, and I really wish they'd switch her back!

Actually, I've kinda grown tired of Troi's butt and her cleavage. When
are they going to show more of Crusher or that oriental nurse babe that
works for her. Hmmm, you know the two together would look nice...

Ira_J....@fourd.com

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Oct 29, 1992, 9:13:56 PM10/29/92
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>> That is disgusting and sexist. You're really in trouble now, because I
cross-posted this reply to soc.women!<<

Well. it's not disgusting or sexsist for me to say that her latest hair cut,(
no doubt by the Galaxy Reknowned Mr Motto) made her look like she had a close
encounter with an anti matter particle beam.

-Ira-


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Mike Wagner

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Oct 30, 1992, 9:19:59 AM10/30/92
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91b...@gw.wmich.edu (Lisamarie Gemma Babik) writes:
: In article <Bwv8x...@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, baca...@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brad Carlson) writes:
: > Is it just me, or does the camera add 20 pounds to her butt?
: > How about sticking a skirt on her ... or would that not be
: > proper Starfleet protocol?

i'm GLAD you brought it up! I totally agree...put a shirt on that woman!!

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Mike Wagner

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Oct 30, 1992, 9:21:21 AM10/30/92
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matth...@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:

: In article <Bwv8x...@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, baca...@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brad Carlson) writes:
: > Is it just me, or does the camera add 20 pounds to her butt?
: > How about sticking a skirt on her ... or would that not be
: > proper Starfleet protocol?
:
: OH GOD NO! NOT ANOTHER TROI IS OVERWEIGHT THREAD! DIDN'T WE JUST HAVE
: THIS CONVERSATION?
: Kellie M-S
: internet::matth...@cubldr.colorado.edu

Go Brad go!!!!!

jni...@opie.bgsu.edu

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Oct 30, 1992, 8:53:48 AM10/30/92
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In article <1992Oct29.2...@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, W.O. Khan <Charle...@CCIS.BAYLOR.EDU> writes:
> It's America and that guy can say anything he likes about Troi's butt.

And I can say anything I like about what he says.

jni...@opie.bgsu.edu

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Oct 30, 1992, 9:01:53 AM10/30/92
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In article <1992Oct29.2...@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, jw...@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:
> ceg...@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct29...@opie.bgsu.edu> jni...@opie.bgsu.edu writes:
>>>In article <Bwv8x...@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, baca...@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brad Carlson) writes:
>>>> Is it just me, or does the camera add 20 pounds to her butt?
>>>> How about sticking a skirt on her ... or would that not be
>>>> proper Starfleet protocol?
>>>>
>>>That is disgusting and sexist. You're really in trouble now, because I
>>>cross-posted this reply to soc.women!
>
>>It cannot be sexist to state the truth. If I were to observe that
>>"Tubby" Riker is slightly overweight, I would not be accused of sexism.
>>But by your reasoning, if I were to make the same observation about
>>Troi, even if she weighed 300 lbs., I would be guilty of a sexist remark.
>>How does this follow?
>
I don't think I've ever heard a comment about Riker's (or Kirk's)
weight that communicated the sense of disgust the above did. The
comment, "how about sticking a skirt on her" was particularly notable
in this regard. Have you ever heard somene say, "How about sticking
a jacket on Riker" to hide his tummy?

> Q: How many Eco-Feminists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
> A: THAT'S *NOT* FUNNY!!!
>
> Disclaimer:
> This joke was told to me by my wife. We are both *strong* supporters
> of both Feminism *and* the Environment.
> I just use it to illustrate that some people occasionally need to lighten
> up.
>

You may be right. But something about the tone of that post just got
my goat.

Chris Quinn

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Oct 30, 1992, 2:28:52 PM10/30/92
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While I feel that the initial statement was out of sync with what we all hope
is average societal morals, the statement was not sexist, rather it was
"celulosist"--it was prejudiced against people with celulose in areas that
society has taught us makes them look "ugly."

That is why any statement regarding Riker's paunch is also a bigotrous(?)
remark.

the eskimo

Ravikuma Venkateswar

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Oct 30, 1992, 2:26:08 PM10/30/92
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Did she have a close encounter with an anti-matter particle beam?

Ravikumar Venkateswar
rven...@uiuc.edu

A pun is a no' blessed form of whit.

Chris Quinn

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Oct 30, 1992, 3:46:31 PM10/30/92
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Touche!

the eskimo

Lipton Ann Meredith

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Oct 30, 1992, 2:39:25 PM10/30/92
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>In article <Bwv8x...@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, baca...@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brad Carlson) writes:
>> Is it just me, or does the camera add 20 pounds to her butt?
>> How about sticking a skirt on her ... or would that not be
>> proper Starfleet protocol?
>>
>That is disgusting and sexist. You're really in trouble now, because I
>cross-posted this reply to soc.women!
>

I'm a woman, and I don't really consider it sexist -- I mean, if you don't
have a slender body, male or female, you should not be wearing skin-tight
clothing. So Riker, for instance, has really put on some pounds since the
first season, but the uniforms were changed and it doesn't look bad. Troi,
however, is always stuck in a skin tight uniform with a v-neck, which
is much more sexist than anything else, and I would be happy to see her in
something more like what other officers wear -- partially because her outfit
now is silly, and partially because she doesn't have the body for it.

Firestar


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Oct 30, 1992, 11:14:21 AM10/30/92
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baca...@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brad Carlson) writes:
> Is it just me, or does the camera add 20 pounds to her butt?
> How about sticking a skirt on her ... or would that not be
> proper Starfleet protocol?

You know, I _like_ her tush. Nothing better than to have something to grab
and hold onto. Nice, large, firm, tushy.... *sigh*
--
"It is a pity that even a single drop of this noble
gift of God should be spilled" - J.S. Bach on wine
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The FASS Theatre Company

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Oct 31, 1992, 3:22:49 AM10/31/92
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Has anyonelse noticed that all females in the future have big hooters?
Really this isn't sexist, it's just an observation.
Every female I've ever seen on TNG has a large chest.
Maybe through DNA research they found the gene that controlled
gazongas?f
Just a theory.
|-)

Lee.

marcia goldstein

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;;;;7202 (ph11...@violet.berkeley.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Oct29....@gw.wmich.edu> 91b...@gw.wmich.edu

What I've been wondering is why Troi doesn't have to wear a regulation
uniform like (most of) the rest of the crew. Has there ever been a
canon explanation offered to explain that? (And, while I'm on the
subject, has there been any explanation for Worf's seemingly non-regulation
sash? I mean, either there *is* a uniform code or there *isn't*, right?)

Marguerite Petersen

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Nov 1, 1992, 4:57:21 AM11/1/92
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In article <1992Oct30.1...@leland.Stanford.EDU> fire...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith) writes:
>In article <1992Oct29...@opie.bgsu.edu> jni...@opie.bgsu.edu writes:
>>In article <Bwv8x...@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, baca...@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brad Carlson) writes:
>>> Is it just me, or does the camera add 20 pounds to her butt?
>>> How about sticking a skirt on her ... or would that not be
>>> proper Starfleet protocol?
>>>
>>That is disgusting and sexist. You're really in trouble now, because I
>>cross-posted this reply to soc.women!
>>
>
>I'm a woman, and I don't really consider it sexist -- I mean, if you don't
>have a slender body, male or female, you should not be wearing skin-tight
>clothing.

Ah. Now *slenderism* rears its head. You forgot to mention this is strictly
your opinion. I personally think anyone can and should wear whatever they
feel like wearing whether or not anyone else thinks it doesn't *suit* them.

So Riker, for instance, has really put on some pounds since the
>first season, but the uniforms were changed and it doesn't look bad. Troi,
>however, is always stuck in a skin tight uniform with a v-neck, which
>is much more sexist than anything else, and I would be happy to see her in
>something more like what other officers wear -- partially because her outfit
>now is silly, and partially because she doesn't have the body for it.
>
>Firestar
>

I'm quaking in fear waiting for the *fashion felony* police to arrest
these two (and probably myself while they're at it!) :-)

Marg


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An Erik Estrada hate monger

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rven...@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Ravikuma Venkateswar) writes:

>ba...@vpnet.chi.il.us (marcia goldstein) writes:

>>;;;;7202 (ph11...@violet.berkeley.edu) wrote:
>>: In article <1992Oct29....@gw.wmich.edu> 91b...@gw.wmich.edu
>>: (Lisamarie Gemma Babik) writes:
>>: >In article <Bwv8x...@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>,
>>: baca...@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brad Carlson) writes:
>>: >> Is it just me, or does the camera add 20 pounds to her butt?

>stuff deleted

>> What I've been wondering is why Troi doesn't have to wear a regulation
>> uniform like (most of) the rest of the crew. Has there ever been a
>> canon explanation offered to explain that? (And, while I'm on the
>> subject, has there been any explanation for Worf's seemingly non-regulation
>> sash? I mean, either there *is* a uniform code or there *isn't*, right?)

>Maybe they don't have a _strict_ kind of uniform. Like some private schools
>have a uniform code where you can only wear certain color combinations.

With my esteemed roommate's comments considered, maybe it is not the camera's
fault that Troi's {bird nest, hooters, butt, spleen} looks so big or that she
has two {hooters, eyes, legs, big toes}. Maybe it's wardrobe's fault for
dressing her in colors that tend to accentuate those features...

>--
>Ravikumar Venkateswar
>rven...@uiuc.edu

>A pun is a no' blessed form of whit.

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Dave Schaumann

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Nov 1, 1992, 3:00:22 PM11/1/92
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In article <Bwz8M...@math.uwaterloo.ca>, fass@math (The FASS Theatre Company) writes:
>Has anyonelse noticed that all females in the future have big hooters?
>Really this isn't sexist, it's just an observation.

What about Tasha Yar? Surely by now everyone has seen Denise Crosby in
the buff. Unless your "big hooter threshold" is way low, she just doesn't
qualify.

>Every female I've ever seen on TNG has a large chest.

Maybe you need to watch some more episodes?

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(Fact need not be multiplied beyond necessity)

Jonathan Theodore Casser

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In article <1992Oct31....@vpnet.chi.il.us> ba...@vpnet.chi.il.us
(marcia goldstein) writes:
>
> What I've been wondering is why Troi doesn't have to wear a
regulation
> uniform like (most of) the rest of the crew. Has there ever been a
> canon explanation offered to explain that? (And, while I'm on the
> subject, has there been any explanation for Worf's seemingly
non-regulation
> sash? I mean, either there *is* a uniform code or there *isn't*,
right?)

The reason I have heard for her not wearing a uniform is that, as the
ship's psychiatrist (sp?), she also treats the families of the crew, and
that if she were in uniform, it might disturb both the crew and their
families when they go for a session.
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Mike Wagner

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mega...@chinet.chi.il.us (Dr. Megabyte) writes:
:
: You know, I _like_ her tush. Nothing better than to have something to grab

: and hold onto. Nice, large, firm, tushy.... *sigh*

I agree, I like to have something to grab, but not that much! ;)

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Ryan Rogers

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Nov 1, 1992, 3:14:00 PM11/1/92
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In <1992Nov...@ece.arizona.edu> ev...@ece.arizona.edu writes:
>There was a movie out a couple of years ago called Filo-Fax or
>Mr. Rolodex or something like that. It had Jim Belushi in it
>as a escaped con who finds this guys rolodex file and lives his
>life, anyway John DeLancie and Gates McFadden are in it, and it is
>!!!clearly!!! obvious that Gates has "huge tracts of land" (Monty
>Python).


Movie is "Taking Care of Business".


Sincerely,
Ryan Rogers

Mike Wagner

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: Ah. Now *slenderism* rears its head. You forgot to mention this is strictly

: your opinion. I personally think anyone can and should wear whatever they
: feel like wearing whether or not anyone else thinks it doesn't *suit* them.

Well, I'm glad you feel that way. I don't and if I see someone in clothing
that doesn't 'suit' them, then I have the right to feel nausous and puke...

Tim the Enchanter

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In article <1992Nov...@ece.arizona.edu> ev...@ece.arizona.edu writes:
)There was a movie out a couple of years ago called Filo-Fax or
)Mr. Rolodex or something like that. It had Jim Belushi in it
)as a escaped con who finds this guys rolodex file and lives his
)life, anyway John DeLancie and Gates McFadden are in it, and it is
)!!!clearly!!! obvious that Gates has "huge tracts of land" (Monty
)Python).

The movie is "Taking Care of Business"

Tim


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Marguerite Petersen

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In article <29...@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> mjwa...@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Mike Wagner) writes:
>: Ah. Now *slenderism* rears its head. You forgot to mention this is strictly
>: your opinion. I personally think anyone can and should wear whatever they
>: feel like wearing whether or not anyone else thinks it doesn't *suit* them.
>
>Well, I'm glad you feel that way. I don't and if I see someone in clothing
>that doesn't 'suit' them, then I have the right to feel nausous and puke...
>
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Well, I hope you have a wonderful time! Or do you go around with blinders
on?

Mike Wagner

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pet...@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Marguerite Petersen) writes:

: >: feel like wearing whether or not anyone else thinks it doesn't *suit* them.


: >
: >Well, I'm glad you feel that way. I don't and if I see someone in clothing
: >that doesn't 'suit' them, then I have the right to feel nausous and puke...

: Well, I hope you have a wonderful time! Or do you go around with blinders
: on?

I wish I could go around with blinders on so I wouldn't have to look at
Troi's butthole.


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Patrick Rannou

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In article <1992Oct29.2...@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, W.O. Khan <Charle...@CCIS.BAYLOR.EDU> writes:
> It's America and that guy can say anything he likes about Troi's butt.

And I can say anything I like about what he says.

And I can sa anything I like about what *I* say!

;-)

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Jeff Broitman

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In article <af87...@Kralizec.fido.zeta.org.au> andrew.n...@f635.n713.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Andrew Nipperess) writes:
>Original to: Baca...@Silver.Ucs.Indiana.Edu
>Hello
> b> Is it just me, or does the camera add 20 pounds to her butt?
> b> How about sticking a skirt on her ... or would that not be
> b> proper Starfleet protocol?
>
>I'm wondering if the camera does similar tricks to her bust.

Actually she's bustier in real life. On camera she looks like she's
been "straped down." See the Sherlock Holmes Episode _The Six Napoleons_.
She plays Lucencia (_well_) and is ...ahh...busting out all over...

-jz

Andrew Nipperess

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Nov 3, 1992, 5:26:28 PM11/3/92
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Original to: Baca...@Silver.Ucs.Indiana.Edu
Hello
b> Is it just me, or does the camera add 20 pounds to her butt?
b> How about sticking a skirt on her ... or would that not be
b> proper Starfleet protocol?

I'm wondering if the camera does similar tricks to her bust.


Nipper

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