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Paul Dure's cruciform in 'The Fall of Hyperion' [contains spoilers for 'The Rise of Endymion]

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Alvin Lim Cheng Hin

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May 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/5/98
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I've just finished my second reading of 'The Fall of Hyperion', and I now
have a nagging question about Paul Dure's cruciform... In 'The Rise of
Endymion', the Pope Hoyt possesses both his own and Dure's cruciforms, and
Dure gets murdered after each of his resurrections... But in 'The Fall of
Hyperion' Dure mentioned that while in the Hyperion labyrinth the Shrike
had removed his cruciform, and only Hoyt's was left on his body. Was Dure
hallucinating? Or did Dure's cruciform return later? Please help, as this
question is really nagging me!

(If you're responding please also copy an email reply as I don't check
with the ng often. Thanks.)

Alvin Lim Cheng Hin
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<<Was Dure hallucinating? Or did Dure's cruciform return later? Please help, as
this question is really nagging me!>>

Well, from what I remember, in The Rise of Endymion, Aenea kept saying to Raul
that her uncle Martin made up some of the things in Hyperion and Fall to make
the story more interesting.

Endymion and Rise of Endymion both make the Hyperion Cantos (Hyperion and Fall)
out to be the tale of Martin Silenus and that he'd made some of it up. Basicly
saying that while Silenus was there, he couldn't have known all that was going
on and had to improvise pieces of the puzzle.

This explaination is part of why some of the readers didn't like the last two
books. I enjoyed them greatly, different kinds of stories.

Greg.

Jo Walton

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May 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/5/98
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In article <6in7va$79i$1...@columbine.singnet.com.sg>

ch...@merlion.singnet.com.sg "Alvin Lim Cheng Hin" writes:

> I've just finished my second reading of 'The Fall of Hyperion', and I now
> have a nagging question about Paul Dure's cruciform... In 'The Rise of
> Endymion', the Pope Hoyt possesses both his own and Dure's cruciforms, and
> Dure gets murdered after each of his resurrections... But in 'The Fall of
> Hyperion' Dure mentioned that while in the Hyperion labyrinth the Shrike

> had removed his cruciform, and only Hoyt's was left on his body. Was Dure


> hallucinating? Or did Dure's cruciform return later? Please help, as this
> question is really nagging me!

I think it was retroactively changed for consistency, or in other
words, a cheat.

That Dure has his cruciform removed is one of the deepest bits of
symbolism towards the end of :Fall of Hyperion:, I thought, it
felt very wrong to remove that.

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