On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 4:39:34 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 13:11:47 -0800 (PST), Kevrob <
kev...@my-deja.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 2:32:23 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote:
> >>
> >> Kirby was also big on letting the visuals carry the story, so when he
> >> was given a free hand you'd have two-page spreads, multiple splash
> >> pages -- which were very cool, but you can't really call them
> >> "writing," exactly, and the story would go really fast.
> >
> >Grammar school me felt the very same about early 60s Marvels. It took
> >me a while to scrape together 12 cents or a quarter for a standard
> >comic or a "giant." I thought Lee/Kirby were "padding" their stories,
> >for the longest time. At the same time. Lee/Ditko packed a lot of story
> >into even tinier panels than the Weisinger-edited Superman titles or the
> >Schwartz-edited DCs did. (FLASH, GREEN LANTERN, ATOM, HAWKMAN,
> >JUSTICE LEAGUE, DC's SF books and eventually the Batman titles.)
>
> I simply didn't have access to the Lee/Kirby titles back then -- there
> wasn't anywhere within walking distance that sold new Marvels. The
> drug store carried Archie and Harvey stuff, and the second-hand
> bookstore (where I got most of my comics for a nickel apiece) had lots
> of Dell, Gold Key, DC, ACG, etc. but only rarely got any Marvels.
>
If I walked home from school, I passed a pharmacy that sold Marvels,
and the barber shop was right up the street. Larry's Barber Shop.
Closed Wednesdays.
Larry could easily pop down to the Rx, and buy a stack of comics.
He also had Sports Illustrated, Sport, The Police Gazette,* and
assorted mags guys liked on hunting and fishing, and all the
major NYC/LI area newspapers. In those days, not having stuff like
that might have tempted customers to try the competition.
> The local barber shop didn't have any comics. Very annoying; I heard
> about barber shops with comics, but never saw one. I think all the
> comics got swiped, so they stopped buying them.
>
> When I finally did get hold of Kirby's work, starting in 1969 or so, I
> "got" it pretty well -- but it still read really fast, even if I'd
> then go back and admire the big splashy stuff.
>
> >Teenage me, however, finally "got" Kirby, a little too late to be a
> >Permanent Marvelite Maximus. I bought the 4th World comics off the
> >newsstand, when I could find them. It took me forever to find
> >NEW GODS #2. When I was a pre-teen, most of the Marvels I read I
> >didn't buy. The local barber shop had them by the ton, along with DCs
> >and Archies and others. I could read through quite a stack while
> >waiting for a chair to open up. I have three brothers, and getting 5
> >heads cut could take some time - time to read comics!
>
> I only had one brother. And the barber shop didn't have comics.
>
There were days I would have gladly lent you a spare one or two. :)
When longer hair became the vogue, I was torn: trying to avoid
haircuts as long as possible meant not getting to read comics
for free! Of course, by the time I started caring what girls
thought of my haircut, I was earning my own pocket money from
various odd jobs: lawn mowing and snow shoveling among them.
I was buying my comics.
> >Let's not forget some of the other great comics writers:
> >Will (THE SPIRIT) Eisner, Carl Barks and his Disney Ducks,
> >and the oft-forgotten, but highly entertaining John (LITTLE
> >LULU) Stanley. I'm also a big fan of Sheldon "Shelly" Mayer,
> >for his "Scribbly" and "SUGAR AND SPIKE."
>
> I loved SUGAR AND SPIKE, but never really cared for any of Mayer's
> other work.
The early Scribblys in All-American Comics are a stitch. I haven't
read his earlier appearances. Scibbly Jibbet emerged in Dell's
POPULAR COMICS #6, July 1936, surrounded by newspaper strip stars.
He migrated to AA, DC's sister company, when Max Gaines became
an editor there.
https://www.comics.org/issue/120/cover/4/
http://www.toonopedia.com/scribbly.htm
Here's a long Scribbly story, from hiw own 1940s book.
http://johnglenntaylor.blogspot.com/2009/09/wow-complete-22-page-scribbly-story-by.html
> John Stanley was amazing -- did you ever read the stuff he wrote for
> the earliest issues of GHOST STORIES? Really, really creepy, and
> completely different from his brilliant Lulu and Tubby stories.
No. I knew he wrote them, something I learned long after they were
published. I never shelled out for Dells, or later Gold Key. I did
read the occasional MAGNUS, ROBOT FIGHTER or DR SOLAR. The W T Grant
in my town, (or was it the Woolworths?) had a Gold Key only rack,
probably supplied by the Whitman distribution system that brought them
Golden Books, the coloring books and games all created by Western
Publishing. I kept up with Dell/Gold Key, there, until I was
shooed along.
This fellow, Frank Young, posted some interesting stuff about GHOST STORIES:
http://stanleystories.blogspot.com/2008/10/nuttiness-of-stanleys-ghost-stories-two.html
http://stanleystories.blogspot.com/2008/10/nuttiness-of-stanleys-ghost-stories-two.html
DELL didn't join the comics code, so when they decided to do horror or
"mystery," as the cleaned-up, post-code version was known, they may have
been able to be a bit creepier than the CMAA member houses.
> Barks and Eisner, yeah. I think Barks is one of the many influences
> on my Tom Derringer series.
Kevin R