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Gardner Dozois' "A Knight of Ghosts and Shadows

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robo

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Dec 19, 2006, 8:18:40 AM12/19/06
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I'm trying to find if this Dozois story _A Knight of Ghosts and Shadows_ has
ever been reprinted. Every search I do turns up a Lackey story of the same
name. The story originally appeared in Asimov's, 1999--but I'm thinking it
may have been reprinted, but where?

Thanks,


Rob


Just.A...@gmail.com

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Dec 19, 2006, 9:45:06 AM12/19/06
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Check this: http://www.locusmag.com/2001/Reviews/Gevers08_Dozois.html

You should also check this out: http://www.locusmag.com/index/ though
it means going through each year, one by one.

And if you're really into Dozois... there's this:
http://www.oldearthbooks.com/swanwick.htm

And the title was used earlier by Poul Anderson.

GeekGirl

Nancy Lebovitz

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Dec 19, 2006, 10:33:06 AM12/19/06
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In article <RERhh.1133$x67...@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>,

The only edition seems to be an ebook.

www.ebookmall.com/ebook/90285-ebook.htm

I got good results by searching on [dozois knight ghosts shadows].

If you want to not get pages with a particular word, google interprets
a hyphen as NOT, so ["a knight of ghosts and shadows" -lackey] probably
would have worked for you.

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robo

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Dec 19, 2006, 10:59:43 AM12/19/06
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I think I found it. I assumed that it was good enough to win some sort of
award. So I started with the Nebula winners, and it appears to be in Nebula
Showcase 2002.

Thanks So Much,

Robo


Michael S. Schiffer

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Dec 19, 2006, 1:04:21 PM12/19/06
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nan...@panix.com (Nancy Lebovitz) wrote in
news:em90nh$p4p$1...@reader2.panix.com:

> In article <RERhh.1133$x67...@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>,
> robo <digit...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>I'm trying to find if this Dozois story _A Knight of Ghosts and
>>Shadows_ has ever been reprinted. Every search I do turns up a
>>Lackey story of the same name. The story originally appeared in
>>Asimov's, 1999--but I'm thinking it may have been reprinted, but
>>where?

> The only edition seems to be an ebook.

> www.ebookmall.com/ebook/90285-ebook.htm

> I got good results by searching on [dozois knight ghosts
> shadows].

> If you want to not get pages with a particular word, google
> interprets a hyphen as NOT, so ["a knight of ghosts and shadows"
> -lackey] probably would have worked for you.

Unless it turned up the Poul Anderson novel. :-)

Mike

William George Ferguson

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Dec 19, 2006, 12:58:55 PM12/19/06
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And probably by others. It's a line from the British folk song Tom
O'Bedlam, aka Bedlam Boys, aka Mad Maudlin.

By a knight of ghost and shadows
I summoned was to tourney
Five leagues beyong the world's end
I thought it no great journey

And still I sing bonny boys
Bonny mad boys
Bedlam boys are bonny
For they all go bare
And live on the air
And need no drink nor money
--
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
(Bene Gesserit)

Nancy Lebovitz

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Dec 19, 2006, 2:55:30 PM12/19/06
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In article <eq9go2lioeqnf4p1a...@4ax.com>,

Are you sure they're both the same song? Brunner's _Bedlam Planet_ uses
the verses for chapter headings, but doesn't include the chorus, and I
don't think I've ever heard them performed together.

Stanislaus. B

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Dec 19, 2006, 4:20:02 PM12/19/06
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:55:30 +0000 (UTC), nan...@panix.com (Nancy
Lebovitz) wrote:

>In article <eq9go2lioeqnf4p1a...@4ax.com>,
>William George Ferguson <wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>On 19 Dec 2006 06:45:06 -0800, Just.A...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>robo wrote:
>>>> I'm trying to find if this Dozois story _A Knight of Ghosts and Shadows_ has

...

>>And probably by others. It's a line from the British folk song Tom
>>O'Bedlam, aka Bedlam Boys, aka Mad Maudlin.
>>
>>By a knight of ghost and shadows
>>I summoned was to tourney
>>Five leagues beyong the world's end
>>I thought it no great journey
>>
>>And still I sing bonny boys
>>Bonny mad boys
>>Bedlam boys are bonny
>>For they all go bare
>>And live on the air
>>And need no drink nor money
>
>Are you sure they're both the same song? Brunner's _Bedlam Planet_ uses
>the verses for chapter headings, but doesn't include the chorus, and I
>don't think I've ever heard them performed together.

http://home.clara.net/andywrobertson/tom.html

Here is a full version:

From ye hagg & hungry Goblin,
Yt into raggs would rend yee,
& ye spirit yt stand's by ye naked man,
in ye booke of moones defend yee
That of your fiue sounde sences,
you neuer be forsaken,
Nor wander from your selues with Tom,
abroad to begg your bacon


while I doe sing any foode any feeding,
feedinge drinke or clothing,
Come dame or maid, be not afraid,
poore Tom will iniure nothing.


Of thirty bare yeares haue I
twice twenty bin enraged,
& of forty bin three tymes fifteene
in durance soundlie caged,
On ye lordlie loftes of Bedlam
with Stubble soft & dainty,
braue braceletts Strong, sweet whips ding dong
with wholsome hunger plenty,


& nowe I sing &c:


With a thought I tooke for Maudline
& a cruse of cockle pottage.
with a thing thus tall, skie blesse you all:
I befell into this dotage.
I slept not since the Conquest
till then I neuer waked,
Till ye rogysh boy of loue where I lay
mee found & strip't mee naked.


& nowe I sing &c:


When I short haue shorne my sowce face
& swigg'd my horny barrell,
In an oken Inne I pound my skin
as a suite of guilt apparrell,
The moon's my constant Mistresse
& the lowlie owie my morrowe.
The flaming Drake and ye Nightcrowe make
mee musicke to my sorrowe.


while I doe sing &c:


The palsie plagues my pulses
when I prigg yor: piggs or pullen
your culuers take, or matchles make
your Chanticleare or sullen,
When I want prouant th Humfrie
I sup, & when benighted,
I repose in Powles wth waking soules,
Yet neuer am affrighted.


But I doe sing &c:


I knowe more then Apollo,
for oft when hee ly's sleeping
I see ye starrs att bloudie warres
in ye wounded welkin weeping,
The moone embrace her shepheard
& ye queene of loue her warryer,
while ye first doth horne, ye star of morne:
& ye next ye heauenly Farrier.


While I doe singe &c:


The Gipsie snap & Pedro
are none of Toms Comradoes,
ye punck I skorne, & ye cutpurse sworn
& ye roring boyes brauadoes,
The meeke ye white the gentle,
mee handle touch, & spare not
but those yt crosse Tom Rynosseross
doe what ye Panther dare not.


Although I sing &c:


with an hoast of furious fancies
whereof I am comaunder,
with a burning speare, & a horse of aire,
to the wildernesse I wander.
By a knight of ghostes & shadowes,
I sumon'd am to Tourney.
ten leagues beyond the wide worlds end
mee thinke it is noe iourney.


yet will I sing &c:

William George Ferguson

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Dec 19, 2006, 4:25:48 PM12/19/06
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nan...@panix.com (Nancy Lebovitz) wrote:

There are numerous verses, and you'll never see them all in any one version
(Eluki bes Shahar, writing as Rosemary Edghill, covers more verses than
I've seen in any one version as her chapter headings in the Bast book "Book
of Moons", the connection being the Book of Moons is supposed to be Mary,
Queen of Scots' grimoire, and the 'Mad Maudlin' in the song is Mary, Queen
of Scots)

There are at least 3 different poem/songs (Tom o'Bedlam, Mad Maudlin or
Maudlin's Search, and Bedlam Boys), but all follow the same structure, all
deal with Tom and Maudlin, and over the centuries they have swapped verses
around between them, they are close enough in structure and theme so that
the verses are easily interchangable. The earliest version dates from at
least the early 17th century (the earliest copy of the verses written down
was in 1634).

Mercedes Lackey used lines from the 'Knight of ghosts and shadows' verse
and the 'Spirits white as lightning' verse for her book titles in the
Bedlam Bards series.

Jon Schild

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Dec 19, 2006, 9:56:14 PM12/19/06
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According to the Internet SF Database, it has not been reprinted or
collected. Sorry. I guess the search now is for the Oct/Nov 1999 issue
of Asimov's.

Lawrenc...@gmail.com

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Dec 20, 2006, 12:49:48 AM12/20/06
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robo wrote:

It was reprinted in Gardner's NESFA Press collection Strange Days.

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robo

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Dec 20, 2006, 12:29:03 PM12/20/06
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Here is the review of the Nebula 2002 Showcase by the inimitable Pete
Tilliman, who is one of my favorite no nonsense reviewers. An my first
source for Amazon reviews.

Tillman says claims the Dozois story is his favorite.


3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:

A welcome improvement to the Nebula books!, September 8, 2005
Reviewer: Peter D. Tillman (Santa Fe, NM USA) - See all my reviews

_____________________________________________
This new "Showcase" format is a welcome improvement over some of the soggy,
dull Nebula anthols of the 80's and 90's. Check 'em out, starting
(appropriately enough), with the 2000 volume: sfwa[dot]org[slash]pubs

The 2002 volume is an unusually good one. The leadoff story, "Daddy's World"
by Walter Jon Williams, takes a killer look at cybernetic family values. He
narrowly lost the Nebula to Gardner Dozois, below, in a thematically related
story.

macs, by Terry Bisson, the Nebula short-story winner, is Bisson's take on
the OKC bombings. I didn't much care for it, but that's a minority opinion,
I think.

Stellar Harvest, a new story in the "Lydia Duluth" series by Eleanor
Arnason, is fast-paced and fun, a fine entry to her neat new series.


Linda Nagata's Nebula-winning "Goddesses" is a profoundly hopeful
near-future love-story -- that technology can improve poor peoples' lives,
and enrich the rich helpers' lives in the process. Nagata writes with
assurance and grace, touching on wealth & poverty, women & men, love,
charity, religion and how we'll live a few years from now -- all without
being preachy or dull. One of the year's best. Not to be missed. You can
read the story online at scifi[dot]com.

The wrapup story is Gardner Dozois' great "A Knight of Ghosts and Shadows",
my favorite Dozois story ever. Dozois writes, in the Nebula anthology intro,
{quote} [This] is my take on two of the major areas of debate of science
fiction in the 90's, the posthuman condition and the idea of living into a
Vingean singularity...[end quote]

"From the first heraldic image to the last, this is Dozois at his most
intense, personal, and skillful." --Kim Stanley Robinson, in his
introduction.

All this plus the usual insightful commentary, by such luminaries as Gwyneth
Jones, Andy Duncan, Damon Knight, Gene Wolfe, Ken MacLeod, and many more. So
it's one of the better Nebula volumes in many years. Check it out.

Happy reading--
Pete Tillman


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Peter D. Tillman

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Dec 20, 2006, 7:52:37 PM12/20/06
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In article <zpeih.26775$Ga1....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net>,
"robo" <digit...@prodigy.net> wrote:

> Here is the review of the Nebula 2002 Showcase by the inimitable Pete
> Tilliman, who is one of my favorite no nonsense reviewers. An my first
> source for Amazon reviews.

Thank you. And Merry Christmas!

Happy reading--
Pete Tillman
--
"The trouble with predicting the future is that it is very hard."
-- Yogi Berra

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