George R. R. Martin
Damon Silver
I got the chance to see Mr. Martin speak in Santa Fe, oh, about 10-12
years ago, at which time I got an autographed copy of "Sandkings," a
collection of seven of his stories. I eventually proceeded to snap up
just about every science fiction story he's written, and even some
non-SF stuff.
What captivated me in his writing was its imagery of humanity in space
as lonely people on distant worlds separated by huge gulfs of space.
The people in his stories were not galaxy-conquering warlords; neither
were they a lowly race struggling against the cavalier whims of a
long-established galactic culture bent on humanity's destruction.
They were just people in strange environments acting like people in
strange environments: coping the best they could, albeit with a
somewhat more thoughtful and sometimes cynical attitude to their
problems. This is not to say the stories weren't fantasy (they were),
but they were believable fantasy, which I find very rare.
What my gushing boils down to is that upon inspection of the
copyrights of most of these stories, I find that the majority of them
were written in the 70's and early 80's, which leads me to wonder
whether he's been writing anything in the last ten years, and if he
has, where is it?
I'm aware of his work on the second Twilight Zone series of the late
80s.
I know he's edited the Wild Card series which, while entertaining, has
done little to sate my appetite for writing in the style of his
earlier, more evocative work.
So, will people in the know please fill me in on what one of my
favorite authors has been doing to occupy himself recently? (Please
don't mention "Tuf Voyaging" or "Portraits of His Children" -- I know
about these. =P)
Thanks,
Damon Silver
Big Stupid Huge Fan of GRRM
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P Nielsen Hayden
(Damon Silver) writes, about George R. R. Martin:
>What my gushing boils down to is that upon inspection of the
>copyrights of most of these stories, I find that the majority of them
>were written in the 70's and early 80's, which leads me to wonder
>whether he's been writing anything in the last ten years, and if he
>has, where is it?
[...]
>So, will people in the know please fill me in on what one of my
>favorite authors has been doing to occupy himself recently?
Well, I know that he recently sold a yet-to-be-written fantasy trilogy to--
um, Bantam, I think. Them or Warner. It wasn't us, although David Hartwell
was quite interested in it and put in a bid on Tor's behalf. I read some of
the sample-chapters-and-outline. It was quite good -- dark, literate epic
fantasy stuff.
I wish I could remember the name of the series, and which company it went to,
but I'm afraid all that knowledge has fled down the memory hole. Maybe
someone else knowledgeable will be cued by this into remembering.
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Michael Pearce
According to the December issue of Locus. George R.R. Martin sold an
epic fantasy trilogy, "A Song of Ice and Fire," to Bantam for a large
amount of money. The three titles are:
A Game of Thrones
A Dance With Dragons
The Winds of Winter
Bad news is that the first novel isn't due until early 1996.
Michael Pearce
Susan Eisenhour
Done in 80s, I think:
Armageddon Rag - which I couldn't stop reading and ended staying up all
night to finish,
Fevre Dream - vampires on a Mississippi riverboat.
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I've read several of GRR Martin's novels, and the one I enjoyed the most
was FEVRE DREAM, Poseidon Press 1982. Basically, it is about a good .vs.
bad vampire in the 1800's. And in today's glut of lousy vampire novels,
this one was a refreashing read.
Steve...
Tim McCanlies
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: So, will people in the know please fill me in on what one of my
: favorite authors has been doing to occupy himself recently? (Please
: don't mention "Tuf Voyaging" or "Portraits of His Children" -- I know
: about these. =P)
: Thanks,
: Damon Silver
: Big Stupid Huge Fan of GRRM
: ide...@leland.stanford.edu
I wouldn't call myself "in the know" but... I believe he worked on the TV
show "Beauty and the Beast". Which means he's probably gotten sucked into
that Hollywood trap.....
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Craig Becker
> Read these?
> Done in 80s, I think:
> Armageddon Rag - which I couldn't stop reading and ended staying up all
> night to finish,
> Fevre Dream - vampires on a Mississippi riverboat.
Yes, read 'em both...I dunno, they weren't bad, but I think Martin is at
his best in the short story domain. YMMV, of course.
Speaking of GRRM, I've heard some (very insubstantial) rumors that there's
another Haviland Tuf book in the offing. Can anyone confirm/deny?
Craig
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Mark Stackpole
Remembering my GEnie days, George RR spent the '80s working on
_Twilight Zone_, _Beauty & the Beast_, and attemping to sell a series to
ABC called _Doorways_. Besides the _Wild Cards_ series, I think his most
recent fiction was collected in _Portraits of his Children_.
I too remember with fondness the "Avalon" stories (for lack of a
better term) of the '70s. Too bad no more are coming.
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Damon Silver
Susan Eisenhour <cf...@news.cts.eiu.edu> wrote:
>The "Avalon" stories were mentioned. Are they collected anywhere? COuld
>someone give the titles, or at least some of them? If not in a collection,
>any clues to finding?
>Thanks
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So glad you asked. =)
Since I'm the one who started this thread originally, I figure I could at
least offer some helpful hints. Keep in mind, Martin's universe never
really gives a specific history or a specific layout of things. Names
and events sort of trickle down through rumor and word of mouth and legend.
The collections below may have overlaps.
"Sandkings" - seven stories. Off the top of my head, The Way of Cross
and Dragon, Bitterblooms, In the House of the Worm, Fastfriend (one
word?), The Stone City, Starlady, Sandkings.
"A Song for Lya" - collected stories
"Tuf Voyaging" - seven stories about Haviland Tuf, some of which
mention associations with so-called "Avalon" stories.
"With Morning Comes Mistfall" - collected stories
"Dying of the Light" - full length novel set on Worlorn, a dying world
"Portraits of His Children" - collected stuff. Hmm, this may not have more
than one "Avalon" story, but it's still worth the read.
"Songs of Stars and Shadow" (maybe, maybe...not sure on this one) -
more collected stories
OTHER NON-"AVALON" STUFF:
"Windhaven" - full length novel with Lisa Tuttle...haven't read this
one in a while, but don't recall being especially impressed the first
time. SF.
The "Wild Cards" series, Volumes I-XII (short stories around a central
theme), and a new full-length novel in the series. All edited by
Martin, with some writing thrown in. Pseudo-SF. Could be classified
alternate history.
"Armageddon Rag" - haven't read this one - fiction, I believe.
"Fevre Dream" - Vampires and a steamboat in the 1860s or thereabouts.
Fiction.
There's probably other stuff I've forgotten, but those should give you
a good head start on his work. Enjoy!
Damon "They all had his face" Silver
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Susan Eisenhour
Dana Carson
script for the Wild Card movie and is working on the script for "A
Princess of Mars".
Baltimore in 98
concept to the networks and working with Melinda Snodgras on screenplays
based on Wild Cards and Burrough's A PRINCESS OF MARS.
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Mean Mister Mustard
Does anyone know when (or if) the next Wild Cards book is due to be released?
And if so, what's the topic?
Also, what was the Wild Cards script he was working on (i.e., movie or TV,
plot, etc.)? Is there a good chance this script will get produced?
Any answers are much appreciated.
Marc
David DeLaney
>Does anyone know when (or if) the next Wild Cards book is due to be released?
>And if so, what's the topic?
It's out *now* - check your local Waldenbooks/B. Dalton. The topic is
the continuation of Card Sharks...
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Jorge DeLaCruz
: Does anyone know when (or if) the next Wild Cards book is due to be released?
: And if so, what's the topic?
I heard (on the net) that it would be out in March. Hopefully it
would continue on the Card Sharks, with Hartmann being involved.
: Also, what was the Wild Cards script he was working on (i.e., movie or TV,
: plot, etc.)? Is there a good chance this script will get produced?
No Idea
Jorge
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: Mean Mister Mustard (ma...@wam.umd.edu) wrote:
: : Does anyone know when (or if) the next Wild Cards book is due to be released?
: : And if so, what's the topic?
: I heard (on the net) that it would be out in March. Hopefully it
: would continue on the Card Sharks, with Hartmann being involved.
Boy, do I have news for you guys.
I asked a month or so ago about the new WC book, and was told March. Knowing
that when book publishers say March, start looking in February, I have been
paying CLOSE attention to new arrivals at B. Daltons.
Wild Cards Book II of a New Cycle: Marked Cards IS OUT!!!!
Waldenbooks has it too, so I suspect any major store will have it. If it
got to Oklahoma, then it got to you. (Overseas people excluded).
Have yet to read it, as I just got it the other day and I am still working
on Isle of Woman by Piers Anthony.
Howard Wilson II
Eh? What's that? You want to know what the back of the book says? Piss
off! My post is over! See my name up there? I signed off! Oh, alright.
A beautiful young reporter and a small group of jokers and
aces have unearthed evidence of a conspiracy of Card Sharks,
whose goal is the wholesale destruction of those afflicted with
the Wild Cards virus. But Hannah Davis and her handful of
heroes have discovered the truth. Now it's a desperate race to
expose the Card Sharks, flush them into the open where they
can be brought to justice. For the Card Sharks have a terrifying
weapon, a Final Solution; they are almost ready to use...
Damn. Makes ya wish Tachy was still around, don't it?
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