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tsbr...@gmail.com
Aug 7, 2016, 6:28:16 PM8/7/16
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Page 18 of hardback: Dobby the House Elf is trying to persuade Harry to stay away from Hogwarts. Dobby points out that Harry's friends haven't been writing to him. When Harry asks how Dobby knows, Dobby admits that he's been stopping Harry's letters! Dobby has a thick wad of letters hidden in his pillowcase.
How did Dobby intercept Harry's letters? Wouldn't he have to stake out Number 4 Privet Drive 24/7 to be certain of intercepting the owls that bring letters for Harry? How could he stake out Harry's home, while at the same time performing his duties for the Malfoys?
How did Dobby intercept Harry's letters? Wouldn't he have to stake out Number 4 Privet Drive 24/7 to be certain of intercepting the owls that bring letters for Harry? How could he stake out Harry's home, while at the same time performing his duties for the Malfoys?
Robert Carnegie
Aug 8, 2016, 1:59:53 AM8/8/16
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On Sunday, 7 August 2016 23:28:16 UTC+1, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> Page 18 of hardback: Dobby the House Elf is trying to persuade Harry to stay away from Hogwarts. Dobby points out that Harry's friends haven't been writing to him. When Harry asks how Dobby knows, Dobby admits that he's been stopping Harry's letters! Dobby has a thick wad of letters hidden in his pillowcase.
>
> How did Dobby intercept Harry's letters? Wouldn't he have to stake out Number 4 Privet Drive 24/7 to be certain of intercepting the owls that bring letters for Harry? How could he stake out Harry's home, while at the same time performing his duties for the Malfoys?
Uh, magic?
> Page 18 of hardback: Dobby the House Elf is trying to persuade Harry to stay away from Hogwarts. Dobby points out that Harry's friends haven't been writing to him. When Harry asks how Dobby knows, Dobby admits that he's been stopping Harry's letters! Dobby has a thick wad of letters hidden in his pillowcase.
>
> How did Dobby intercept Harry's letters? Wouldn't he have to stake out Number 4 Privet Drive 24/7 to be certain of intercepting the owls that bring letters for Harry? How could he stake out Harry's home, while at the same time performing his duties for the Malfoys?
Either he teleports himself to Privet Drive when a
letter arrives, or he redirects them to the Malfoy
maisonette, or maybe intercepts them in flight?
Maybe Dobby legally changed his own name to "Harry Potter".
There aren't so many wizards that you get more than one of
the same name who aren't related (are there?) Until now.
In the scene with the seven Harry Potters, why
didn't Voldemort send an exploding suicide owl
which would have been delivered to the real Harry?
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Aug 8, 2016, 2:05:57 AM8/8/16
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In article <35f89749-ac5c-4b79...@googlegroups.com>,
<davebarry>"Exploding Suicide Owl" would be an awsome name
for a band</davebarry>
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TB
Aug 8, 2016, 8:12:44 AM8/8/16
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But I like the idea of an exploding suicide owl!
TB
Aug 8, 2016, 8:18:02 AM8/8/16
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On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 10:59:53 PM UTC-7, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> On Sunday, 7 August 2016 23:28:16 UTC+1, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Page 18 of hardback: Dobby the House Elf is trying to persuade Harry to stay away from Hogwarts. Dobby points out that Harry's friends haven't been writing to him. When Harry asks how Dobby knows, Dobby admits that he's been stopping Harry's letters! Dobby has a thick wad of letters hidden in his pillowcase.
> >
> > How did Dobby intercept Harry's letters? Wouldn't he have to stake out Number 4 Privet Drive 24/7 to be certain of intercepting the owls that bring letters for Harry? How could he stake out Harry's home, while at the same time performing his duties for the Malfoys?
>
> Uh, magic?
>
> Either he teleports himself to Privet Drive when a
> letter arrives, or he redirects them to the Malfoy
> maisonette, or maybe intercepts them in flight?
Option I: How would Dobby know when a Harry letter is about to arrive?
> > Page 18 of hardback: Dobby the House Elf is trying to persuade Harry to stay away from Hogwarts. Dobby points out that Harry's friends haven't been writing to him. When Harry asks how Dobby knows, Dobby admits that he's been stopping Harry's letters! Dobby has a thick wad of letters hidden in his pillowcase.
> >
> > How did Dobby intercept Harry's letters? Wouldn't he have to stake out Number 4 Privet Drive 24/7 to be certain of intercepting the owls that bring letters for Harry? How could he stake out Harry's home, while at the same time performing his duties for the Malfoys?
>
> Uh, magic?
>
> Either he teleports himself to Privet Drive when a
> letter arrives, or he redirects them to the Malfoy
> maisonette, or maybe intercepts them in flight?
Option II: Lucius: Why are we receiving Harry Potter's mail?
Option III: How would Dobby be certain of finding the owls?
>
> Maybe Dobby legally changed his own name to "Harry Potter".
> There aren't so many wizards that you get more than one of
> the same name who aren't related (are there?) Until now.
>
> In the scene with the seven Harry Potters, why
> didn't Voldemort send an exploding suicide owl
> which would have been delivered to the real Harry?
Use the owl to send a Mandrake Howler. The owl would fly out of range before the Mandrake Howler explodes and emits a Mandrake Howl, thus killing the hearer.
> In the scene with the seven Harry Potters, why
> didn't Voldemort send an exploding suicide owl
> which would have been delivered to the real Harry?
TB
Aug 8, 2016, 8:19:59 AM8/8/16
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On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 10:59:53 PM UTC-7, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> On Sunday, 7 August 2016 23:28:16 UTC+1, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Page 18 of hardback: Dobby the House Elf is trying to persuade Harry to stay away from Hogwarts. Dobby points out that Harry's friends haven't been writing to him. When Harry asks how Dobby knows, Dobby admits that he's been stopping Harry's letters! Dobby has a thick wad of letters hidden in his pillowcase.
> >
> > How did Dobby intercept Harry's letters? Wouldn't he have to stake out Number 4 Privet Drive 24/7 to be certain of intercepting the owls that bring letters for Harry? How could he stake out Harry's home, while at the same time performing his duties for the Malfoys?
>
> Uh, magic?
>
> Either he teleports himself to Privet Drive when a
> letter arrives, or he redirects them to the Malfoy
> maisonette, or maybe intercepts them in flight?
How would Dobby do a global spell to redirect all Harry Potter letters to the Malfoy mansion?
> > Page 18 of hardback: Dobby the House Elf is trying to persuade Harry to stay away from Hogwarts. Dobby points out that Harry's friends haven't been writing to him. When Harry asks how Dobby knows, Dobby admits that he's been stopping Harry's letters! Dobby has a thick wad of letters hidden in his pillowcase.
> >
> > How did Dobby intercept Harry's letters? Wouldn't he have to stake out Number 4 Privet Drive 24/7 to be certain of intercepting the owls that bring letters for Harry? How could he stake out Harry's home, while at the same time performing his duties for the Malfoys?
>
> Uh, magic?
>
> Either he teleports himself to Privet Drive when a
> letter arrives, or he redirects them to the Malfoy
> maisonette, or maybe intercepts them in flight?
David DeLaney
Aug 8, 2016, 11:48:50 AM8/8/16
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On 2016-08-07, tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How did Dobby intercept Harry's letters?
Why would WE know? Nobody knows, demonstrably, except J. K. Rowling. Ask HER.
> How did Dobby intercept Harry's letters?
Not us.
> Wouldn't he have to stake out
> Number 4 Privet Drive 24/7 to be certain of intercepting the owls that bring
> letters for Harry? How could he stake out Harry's home, while at the same
> time performing his duties for the Malfoys?
and presto, the owls all delivered to him instead. Gah.
Dave, srsly, why are you asking US?
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Robert Carnegie
Aug 8, 2016, 2:38:32 PM8/8/16
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beings - mysteriously enslaved to human wizards.
It's like a gneie.
I have wondered whether the elves get a sexual kick
from living with humans. There's no indication.
Not even Kreacher's fetishisation of family relics.
But, I wondered.
TB
Aug 8, 2016, 4:38:57 PM8/8/16
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Given how much Kreacher hated his Master (Sirius Black) during Order of the Phoenix, I'm amazed that he didn't want to be free like Dobby!
Robert Carnegie
Aug 8, 2016, 9:24:02 PM8/8/16
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On Monday, 8 August 2016 19:38:32 UTC+1, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> On Monday, 8 August 2016 13:19:59 UTC+1, TB wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 10:59:53 PM UTC-7, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> > > On Sunday, 7 August 2016 23:28:16 UTC+1, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Page 18 of hardback: Dobby the House Elf is trying to persuade Harry to stay away from Hogwarts. Dobby points out that Harry's friends haven't been writing to him. When Harry asks how Dobby knows, Dobby admits that he's been stopping Harry's letters! Dobby has a thick wad of letters hidden in his pillowcase.
> > > >
> > > > How did Dobby intercept Harry's letters? Wouldn't he have to stake out Number 4 Privet Drive 24/7 to be certain of intercepting the owls that bring letters for Harry? How could he stake out Harry's home, while at the same time performing his duties for the Malfoys?
> > >
> > > Uh, magic?
> > >
> > > Either he teleports himself to Privet Drive when a
> > > letter arrives, or he redirects them to the Malfoy
> > > maisonette, or maybe intercepts them in flight?
> >
> > How would Dobby do a global spell to redirect all Harry Potter letters to the Malfoy mansion?
>
> House-elves are revealed to be incredibly powerful
> beings - mysteriously enslaved to human wizards.
> It's like a gneie.
Now I think about it, it's more like a genie.
> On Monday, 8 August 2016 13:19:59 UTC+1, TB wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 10:59:53 PM UTC-7, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> > > On Sunday, 7 August 2016 23:28:16 UTC+1, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Page 18 of hardback: Dobby the House Elf is trying to persuade Harry to stay away from Hogwarts. Dobby points out that Harry's friends haven't been writing to him. When Harry asks how Dobby knows, Dobby admits that he's been stopping Harry's letters! Dobby has a thick wad of letters hidden in his pillowcase.
> > > >
> > > > How did Dobby intercept Harry's letters? Wouldn't he have to stake out Number 4 Privet Drive 24/7 to be certain of intercepting the owls that bring letters for Harry? How could he stake out Harry's home, while at the same time performing his duties for the Malfoys?
> > >
> > > Uh, magic?
> > >
> > > Either he teleports himself to Privet Drive when a
> > > letter arrives, or he redirects them to the Malfoy
> > > maisonette, or maybe intercepts them in flight?
> >
> > How would Dobby do a global spell to redirect all Harry Potter letters to the Malfoy mansion?
>
> House-elves are revealed to be incredibly powerful
> beings - mysteriously enslaved to human wizards.
> It's like a gneie.
tsbr...@gmail.com
Sep 23, 2016, 6:41:39 PM9/23/16
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On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 10:59:53 PM UTC-7, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> On Sunday, 7 August 2016 23:28:16 UTC+1, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Page 18 of hardback: Dobby the House Elf is trying to persuade Harry to stay away from Hogwarts. Dobby points out that Harry's friends haven't been writing to him. When Harry asks how Dobby knows, Dobby admits that he's been stopping Harry's letters! Dobby has a thick wad of letters hidden in his pillowcase.
> >
> > How did Dobby intercept Harry's letters? Wouldn't he have to stake out Number 4 Privet Drive 24/7 to be certain of intercepting the owls that bring letters for Harry? How could he stake out Harry's home, while at the same time performing his duties for the Malfoys?
>
> Uh, magic?
>
> Either he teleports himself to Privet Drive when a
> letter arrives, or he redirects them to the Malfoy
> maisonette, or maybe intercepts them in flight?
Option 1: How would Dobby KNOW when a letter arrives for Harry Potter?
> > Page 18 of hardback: Dobby the House Elf is trying to persuade Harry to stay away from Hogwarts. Dobby points out that Harry's friends haven't been writing to him. When Harry asks how Dobby knows, Dobby admits that he's been stopping Harry's letters! Dobby has a thick wad of letters hidden in his pillowcase.
> >
> > How did Dobby intercept Harry's letters? Wouldn't he have to stake out Number 4 Privet Drive 24/7 to be certain of intercepting the owls that bring letters for Harry? How could he stake out Harry's home, while at the same time performing his duties for the Malfoys?
>
> Uh, magic?
>
> Either he teleports himself to Privet Drive when a
> letter arrives, or he redirects them to the Malfoy
> maisonette, or maybe intercepts them in flight?
Option 2: How would he rediect them to the Malfoy Mansion?
Option 3: How would he know precisely where to be to intercept the owls?
>
> Maybe Dobby legally changed his own name to "Harry Potter".
> There aren't so many wizards that you get more than one of
> the same name who aren't related (are there?) Until now.
>
> In the scene with the seven Harry Potters, why
> didn't Voldemort send an exploding suicide owl
> which would have been delivered to the real Harry?
Voldemort wasn't expecting to have 7 Harry Potters.
> Maybe Dobby legally changed his own name to "Harry Potter".
> There aren't so many wizards that you get more than one of
> the same name who aren't related (are there?) Until now.
>
> In the scene with the seven Harry Potters, why
> didn't Voldemort send an exploding suicide owl
> which would have been delivered to the real Harry?
Alie...@gmail.com
Sep 23, 2016, 7:34:04 PM9/23/16
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http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/House-elf_magic
They can cast spells, charms, and jinxes just by wanting to. So, imagine any combination of those that a wizard with a wand would do, and that's what Dobby did.
Mark L. Fergerson
Robert Carnegie
Sep 24, 2016, 4:28:49 AM9/24/16
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On Monday, 8 August 2016 06:59:53 UTC+1, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> In the scene with the seven Harry Potters, why
> didn't Voldemort send an exploding suicide owl
> which would have been delivered to the real Harry?
Come to think, why doesn't he do that at any other
> In the scene with the seven Harry Potters, why
> didn't Voldemort send an exploding suicide owl
> which would have been delivered to the real Harry?
time in the story? (As far as I remember.)
tsbr...@gmail.com
Sep 29, 2016, 5:31:35 PM9/29/16
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tsbr...@gmail.com
Sep 29, 2016, 5:33:04 PM9/29/16
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Alie...@gmail.com
Sep 29, 2016, 10:39:27 PM9/29/16
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On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 2:33:04 PM UTC-7, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> How would a wizard intercept Harry's mail?
(sigh)
> How would a wizard intercept Harry's mail?
Mark L. Fergerson
William December Starr
Sep 30, 2016, 4:36:43 PM9/30/16
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In article <697f9475-1c17-409e...@googlegroups.com>,
-- wds
"nu...@bid.nes" <Alie...@gmail.com> said:
> On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 2:33:04 PM UTC-7, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> How would a wizard intercept Harry's mail?
>
> (sigh)
"Postus Interceptus!"
> On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 2:33:04 PM UTC-7, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> How would a wizard intercept Harry's mail?
>
> (sigh)
-- wds
David DeLaney
Oct 1, 2016, 1:11:29 AM10/1/16
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On 2016-09-30, William December Starr <wds...@panix.com> wrote:
> "nu...@bid.nes" <Alie...@gmail.com> said:
>> On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 2:33:04 PM UTC-7, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> How would a wizard intercept Harry's mail?
>>
>> (sigh)
>
> "Postus Interceptus!"
Don't you mean "Cardus Interruptus!"?
> "nu...@bid.nes" <Alie...@gmail.com> said:
>> On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 2:33:04 PM UTC-7, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> How would a wizard intercept Harry's mail?
>>
>> (sigh)
>
> "Postus Interceptus!"
Dave, nobody explain the joke to tb, he needs his childlike sense of wonder to
keep sending puns to Piers, warning, another xanth book is out
--
\/David DeLaney posting thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
website on VIC is down, probably for good - oh well/ I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
\/David DeLaney posting thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
TB
Oct 1, 2016, 11:25:56 AM10/1/16
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To intercept Harry's mail, Dobby would have to be waiting outside his home when the owl arrived. This means that he would have to predict WHEN the owl would arrive. How would he do that?
Dobb can't keep watch at Harry's home 24/7, since he has to serve the Malfoys!
Dobb can't keep watch at Harry's home 24/7, since he has to serve the Malfoys!
tsbr...@gmail.com
Oct 1, 2016, 3:10:38 PM10/1/16
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On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 10:11:29 PM UTC-7, David DeLaney wrote:
> On 2016-09-30, William December Starr <wds...@panix.com> wrote:
> > "nu...@bid.nes" <Alie...@gmail.com> said:
> >> On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 2:33:04 PM UTC-7, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> How would a wizard intercept Harry's mail?
> >>
> >> (sigh)
> >
> > "Postus Interceptus!"
>
> Don't you mean "Cardus Interruptus!"?
Why not "Letterus Interruptus"?
> On 2016-09-30, William December Starr <wds...@panix.com> wrote:
> > "nu...@bid.nes" <Alie...@gmail.com> said:
> >> On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 2:33:04 PM UTC-7, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> How would a wizard intercept Harry's mail?
> >>
> >> (sigh)
> >
> > "Postus Interceptus!"
>
> Don't you mean "Cardus Interruptus!"?
>
> Dave, nobody explain the joke to tb, he needs his childlike sense of wonder to
> keep sending puns to Piers, warning, another xanth book is out
You've been reading the Author's Notes of the Xanth novels?
> Dave, nobody explain the joke to tb, he needs his childlike sense of wonder to
> keep sending puns to Piers, warning, another xanth book is out
Robert Carnegie
Oct 1, 2016, 5:39:30 PM10/1/16
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On Saturday, 1 October 2016 16:25:56 UTC+1, TB wrote:
> To intercept Harry's mail, Dobby would have to be waiting outside his home when the owl arrived. This means that he would have to predict WHEN the owl would arrive. How would he do that?
>
> Dobb can't keep watch at Harry's home 24/7, since he has to serve the Malfoys!
He can magically travel in time. Duh.
> To intercept Harry's mail, Dobby would have to be waiting outside his home when the owl arrived. This means that he would have to predict WHEN the owl would arrive. How would he do that?
>
> Dobb can't keep watch at Harry's home 24/7, since he has to serve the Malfoys!
Alie...@gmail.com
Oct 1, 2016, 5:49:41 PM10/1/16
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On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 8:25:56 AM UTC-7, TB wrote:
> To intercept Harry's mail, Dobby would have to be waiting outside his home
> when the owl arrived.
No, he only has to know there's a letter on its way.
> To intercept Harry's mail, Dobby would have to be waiting outside his home
> when the owl arrived.
> This means that he would have to predict WHEN the owl would arrive. How
> would he do that?
Dobby doesn't need math though. You keep forgetting how powerful house elves are.
Dobby can snatch a letter right out of the owl's beak. At a distance.
All he has to do is want to bad enough.
> Dobb can't keep watch at Harry's home 24/7, since he has to serve the Malfoys!
Mark L. Fergerson
TB
Oct 1, 2016, 6:07:10 PM10/1/16
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On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 2:49:41 PM UTC-7, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
> On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 8:25:56 AM UTC-7, TB wrote:
> > To intercept Harry's mail, Dobby would have to be waiting outside his home
> > when the owl arrived.
>
> No, he only has to know there's a letter on its way.
But HOW does Dobby know that there's a letter on its way?
> On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 8:25:56 AM UTC-7, TB wrote:
> > To intercept Harry's mail, Dobby would have to be waiting outside his home
> > when the owl arrived.
>
> No, he only has to know there's a letter on its way.
>
> > This means that he would have to predict WHEN the owl would arrive. How
> > would he do that?
>
> Even muggles can do time-of-flight calculations, and wizard school has some (primitive) maths courses.
>
> Dobby doesn't need math though. You keep forgetting how powerful house elves are.
>
> Dobby can snatch a letter right out of the owl's beak. At a distance.
>
> All he has to do is want to bad enough.
Can he untie a letter from an owl's leg?
> > This means that he would have to predict WHEN the owl would arrive. How
> > would he do that?
>
> Even muggles can do time-of-flight calculations, and wizard school has some (primitive) maths courses.
>
> Dobby doesn't need math though. You keep forgetting how powerful house elves are.
>
> Dobby can snatch a letter right out of the owl's beak. At a distance.
>
> All he has to do is want to bad enough.
Can Dobby steal the letter from an owl that's out of his eyesight?
>
> > Dobb can't keep watch at Harry's home 24/7, since he has to serve the Malfoys!
>
> Wizards need spells and wands to apparate. Dobby only needs to snap his fingers.
Isn't there a risk that the Malfoys might notice Dobby's absence while he is waiting for the owl to arrive?
> > Dobb can't keep watch at Harry's home 24/7, since he has to serve the Malfoys!
>
> Wizards need spells and wands to apparate. Dobby only needs to snap his fingers.
TB
Oct 1, 2016, 6:07:56 PM10/1/16
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Robert Carnegie
Oct 1, 2016, 7:26:56 PM10/1/16
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TB
Oct 1, 2016, 11:46:40 PM10/1/16
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David DeLaney
Oct 2, 2016, 3:19:04 AM10/2/16
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On 2016-10-01, TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> To intercept Harry's mail, Dobby would have to be waiting outside his home
> when the owl arrived. This means that he would have to predict WHEN the owl
> would arrive. How would he do that?
Magic, of course. It's like you didn't even read the books!
> To intercept Harry's mail, Dobby would have to be waiting outside his home
> when the owl arrived. This means that he would have to predict WHEN the owl
> would arrive. How would he do that?
Dave
David DeLaney
Oct 2, 2016, 3:21:07 AM10/2/16
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On 2016-10-01, TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 2:49:41 PM UTC-7, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
>> On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 8:25:56 AM UTC-7, TB wrote:
>> > To intercept Harry's mail, Dobby would have to be waiting outside his home
>> > when the owl arrived.
>>
>> No, he only has to know there's a letter on its way.
>
> But HOW does Dobby know that there's a letter on its way?
One of the schools of wizard magic is ... {drum roll plz} DIVINATION.
> On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 2:49:41 PM UTC-7, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
>> On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 8:25:56 AM UTC-7, TB wrote:
>> > To intercept Harry's mail, Dobby would have to be waiting outside his home
>> > when the owl arrived.
>>
>> No, he only has to know there's a letter on its way.
>
> But HOW does Dobby know that there's a letter on its way?
Look it up.
>> All he has to do is want to bad enough.
>
> Can he untie a letter from an owl's leg?
>
> Can Dobby steal the letter from an owl that's out of his eyesight?
unknot a discarded tie?
> Isn't there a risk that the Malfoys might notice Dobby's absence while he is
> waiting for the owl to arrive?
around a corner for a second - {POP} {grap} {POP}
Dave, think, dear
tsbr...@gmail.com
Oct 2, 2016, 11:51:57 AM10/2/16
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On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 12:21:07 AM UTC-7, David DeLaney wrote:
> On 2016-10-01, TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 2:49:41 PM UTC-7, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
> >> On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 8:25:56 AM UTC-7, TB wrote:
> >> > To intercept Harry's mail, Dobby would have to be waiting outside his home
> >> > when the owl arrived.
> >>
> >> No, he only has to know there's a letter on its way.
> >
> > But HOW does Dobby know that there's a letter on its way?
>
> One of the schools of wizard magic is ... {drum roll plz} DIVINATION.
>
> Look it up.
But I don't recall any specific indication in the books that Dobby can do divination. If Dobby can do divination (accurately enough to predict precisely when each mail owl would reach 4 Privit Street), why was he surprised when Harry Potter got to Hogwarts via a flying car after he (Dobby) had sealed the portal to Platform 9 and 3/4th? Why didn't Dobby predict that his ploy of stealing Harry's mail would fail to persuade Harry to skip school?
> On 2016-10-01, TB <tsbr...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 2:49:41 PM UTC-7, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
> >> On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 8:25:56 AM UTC-7, TB wrote:
> >> > To intercept Harry's mail, Dobby would have to be waiting outside his home
> >> > when the owl arrived.
> >>
> >> No, he only has to know there's a letter on its way.
> >
> > But HOW does Dobby know that there's a letter on its way?
>
> One of the schools of wizard magic is ... {drum roll plz} DIVINATION.
>
> Look it up.
BTW, when the MoM sent Harry a letter about the Hover Charm, why didn't Dobby predict THAT letter and intercept it?
>
> >> All he has to do is want to bad enough.
> >
> > Can he untie a letter from an owl's leg?
That is, can Dobby untie the letter telekinetically?
> >> All he has to do is want to bad enough.
> >
> > Can he untie a letter from an owl's leg?
> >
> > Can Dobby steal the letter from an owl that's out of his eyesight?
>
> Sure. Can he pick up socks from under the bed where he can't see them? Can he
> unknot a discarded tie?
As for the socks under the bed, I assumed that Dobby would feel under the bed with his HANDS, not retrieve them telekinetically!
> > Can Dobby steal the letter from an owl that's out of his eyesight?
>
> Sure. Can he pick up socks from under the bed where he can't see them? Can he
> unknot a discarded tie?
But if Dobby did pick up socks from under a bed, wouldn't that count as the Malfoys giving him clothing?
>
> > Isn't there a risk that the Malfoys might notice Dobby's absence while he is
> > waiting for the owl to arrive?
>
> Why would he wait? He predicted when it would be there. He just has to be
> around a corner for a second - {POP} {grap} {POP}
Shouldn't the MoM's Trace on the underaged Draco be triggered by Dobby Apparating in and out of the Malfoy mansion, and set off alarms at the MoM?
> > Isn't there a risk that the Malfoys might notice Dobby's absence while he is
> > waiting for the owl to arrive?
>
> Why would he wait? He predicted when it would be there. He just has to be
> around a corner for a second - {POP} {grap} {POP}
William December Starr
Oct 2, 2016, 3:19:34 PM10/2/16
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David DeLaney
Oct 3, 2016, 3:49:09 PM10/3/16
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On 2016-10-02, tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As for the socks under the bed, I assumed that Dobby would feel under the bed
> with his HANDS, not retrieve them telekinetically!
HIS ARMS TOO SHORT TO BOXERS FROM MASSSTER
> As for the socks under the bed, I assumed that Dobby would feel under the bed
> with his HANDS, not retrieve them telekinetically!
> But if Dobby did pick up socks from under a bed, wouldn't that count as the
> Malfoys giving him clothing?
up clothing freed a house-elf - or food, or supplies, or a broom - then no way
could any CHORES get done. THINK, please.
>> Why would he wait? He predicted when it would be there. He just has to be
>> around a corner for a second - {POP} {grap} {POP}
>
> Shouldn't the MoM's Trace on the underaged Draco be triggered by Dobby
> Apparating in and out of the Malfoy mansion, and set off alarms at the MoM?
doesn't trace house elf magic, otherwise Draco would be hauled in a hundred
times a week for things Dobby did _at Malfoy Manor_. THINK.
Dave
David DeLaney
Oct 3, 2016, 3:50:01 PM10/3/16
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On 2016-10-02, William December Starr <wds...@panix.com> wrote:
> David DeLaney <davidd...@earthlink.net> said:
>> warning, another xanth book is out
>
> Must be a month with letters in its name...
... and the occasional Latin ordinal, of course.
> David DeLaney <davidd...@earthlink.net> said:
>> warning, another xanth book is out
>
> Must be a month with letters in its name...
Dave, counting to infinity, AND BEYOOOOND
tsbr...@gmail.com
Oct 3, 2016, 3:57:35 PM10/3/16
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On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 12:49:09 PM UTC-7, David DeLaney wrote:
> On 2016-10-02, tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > As for the socks under the bed, I assumed that Dobby would feel under the bed
> > with his HANDS, not retrieve them telekinetically!
>
> HIS ARMS TOO SHORT TO BOXERS FROM MASSSTER
>
> > But if Dobby did pick up socks from under a bed, wouldn't that count as the
> > Malfoys giving him clothing?
>
> Nope. That counts as him _taking_ clothing that's lying there. If just picking
> up clothing freed a house-elf - or food, or supplies, or a broom - then no way
> could any CHORES get done. THINK, please.
>
> >> Why would he wait? He predicted when it would be there. He just has to be
> >> around a corner for a second - {POP} {grap} {POP}
> >
> > Shouldn't the MoM's Trace on the underaged Draco be triggered by Dobby
> > Apparating in and out of the Malfoy mansion, and set off alarms at the MoM?
>
> Dobby's not underaged, AND isn't using wizard magic. And the MoM _clearly_
> doesn't trace house elf magic, otherwise Draco would be hauled in a hundred
> times a week for things Dobby did _at Malfoy Manor_. THINK.
They why was Harry Potter blamed for Dobby's Hover Charm in The Chamber of Secrets? (Harry was still steaming about that incident years later).
> On 2016-10-02, tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > As for the socks under the bed, I assumed that Dobby would feel under the bed
> > with his HANDS, not retrieve them telekinetically!
>
> HIS ARMS TOO SHORT TO BOXERS FROM MASSSTER
>
> > But if Dobby did pick up socks from under a bed, wouldn't that count as the
> > Malfoys giving him clothing?
>
> Nope. That counts as him _taking_ clothing that's lying there. If just picking
> up clothing freed a house-elf - or food, or supplies, or a broom - then no way
> could any CHORES get done. THINK, please.
>
> >> Why would he wait? He predicted when it would be there. He just has to be
> >> around a corner for a second - {POP} {grap} {POP}
> >
> > Shouldn't the MoM's Trace on the underaged Draco be triggered by Dobby
> > Apparating in and out of the Malfoy mansion, and set off alarms at the MoM?
>
> Dobby's not underaged, AND isn't using wizard magic. And the MoM _clearly_
> doesn't trace house elf magic, otherwise Draco would be hauled in a hundred
> times a week for things Dobby did _at Malfoy Manor_. THINK.
tsbr...@gmail.com
Oct 3, 2016, 3:59:20 PM10/3/16
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On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 12:49:09 PM UTC-7, David DeLaney wrote:
> On 2016-10-02, tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > As for the socks under the bed, I assumed that Dobby would feel under the bed
> > with his HANDS, not retrieve them telekinetically!
>
> HIS ARMS TOO SHORT TO BOXERS FROM MASSSTER
In that case, Dobby could crawl under the bed.
> > As for the socks under the bed, I assumed that Dobby would feel under the bed
> > with his HANDS, not retrieve them telekinetically!
>
> HIS ARMS TOO SHORT TO BOXERS FROM MASSSTER
>
> > But if Dobby did pick up socks from under a bed, wouldn't that count as the
> > Malfoys giving him clothing?
>
> Nope. That counts as him _taking_ clothing that's lying there. If just picking
> up clothing freed a house-elf - or food, or supplies, or a broom - then no way
> could any CHORES get done. THINK, please.
What if Dobby were told to pick up discarded clothing?
> > But if Dobby did pick up socks from under a bed, wouldn't that count as the
> > Malfoys giving him clothing?
>
> Nope. That counts as him _taking_ clothing that's lying there. If just picking
> up clothing freed a house-elf - or food, or supplies, or a broom - then no way
> could any CHORES get done. THINK, please.
rometho...@gmail.com
Oct 3, 2016, 6:59:43 PM10/3/16
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On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 5:28:16 PM UTC-5, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> Page 18 of hardback: Dobby the House Elf is trying to persuade Harry to stay away from Hogwarts. Dobby points out that Harry's friends haven't been writing to him. When Harry asks how Dobby knows, Dobby admits that he's been stopping Harry's letters! Dobby has a thick wad of letters hidden in his pillowcase.
>
> How did Dobby intercept Harry's letters? Wouldn't he have to stake out Number 4 Privet Drive 24/7 to be certain of intercepting the owls that bring letters for Harry? How could he stake out Harry's home, while at the same time performing his duties for the Malfoys?
Though I have no text evidence, I would expect that Dobby laid some kind of curse over the house to trick any owls into confusing the address. Or, while this might be a bit sneaky, cursing the mailbox with an undetectable extension charm or something of the sort so that muggles and even Harry couldn't grab the letters without a magic spell (and Harry can't use magic outside school). Check out www.hogwartsproject.com for more Harry Potter related stuff!
> Page 18 of hardback: Dobby the House Elf is trying to persuade Harry to stay away from Hogwarts. Dobby points out that Harry's friends haven't been writing to him. When Harry asks how Dobby knows, Dobby admits that he's been stopping Harry's letters! Dobby has a thick wad of letters hidden in his pillowcase.
>
> How did Dobby intercept Harry's letters? Wouldn't he have to stake out Number 4 Privet Drive 24/7 to be certain of intercepting the owls that bring letters for Harry? How could he stake out Harry's home, while at the same time performing his duties for the Malfoys?
Alie...@gmail.com
Oct 3, 2016, 7:25:35 PM10/3/16
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On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-7, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> What if Dobby were told to pick up discarded clothing?
Then he'd pick it up.
> What if Dobby were told to pick up discarded clothing?
House elves are only freed if clothing is *given* to them.
Read the fucking Wiki.
Mark L. Fergerson
tsbr...@gmail.com
Oct 3, 2016, 10:05:21 PM10/3/16
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On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 4:25:35 PM UTC-7, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
> On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-7, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> > What if Dobby were told to pick up discarded clothing?
>
> Then he'd pick it up.
>
> House elves are only freed if clothing is *given* to them.
Dobby really wanted to be free, so I figured that he might interpret an order to pick up discarded clothing as a gift of clothing to him!
> On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-7, tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> > What if Dobby were told to pick up discarded clothing?
>
> Then he'd pick it up.
>
> House elves are only freed if clothing is *given* to them.
tsbr...@gmail.com
Oct 3, 2016, 10:06:27 PM10/3/16
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Chrysi Cat
Oct 4, 2016, 4:48:47 PM10/4/16
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You don't know how ill it's making me to have to defend TS...so let's
get this done quick!
On 10/3/2016 1:49 PM, David DeLaney wrote:
> On 2016-10-02, tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
>> But if Dobby did pick up socks from under a bed, wouldn't that count as the
>> Malfoys giving him clothing?
>
> Nope. That counts as him _taking_ clothing that's lying there. If just picking
> up clothing freed a house-elf - or food, or supplies, or a broom - then no way
> could any CHORES get done. THINK, please.
>
Not that either of you isn't summoning voodoo sharks, but it's pretty
firmly established that house elves indeed *do* count as receiving
clothes for something like that.
Remember how SPEW frightened the Hogwarts elves out of cleaning
Griffyndor Tower because they were always worried they'd pick up one of
those hats Hermione was laying out, not realising that with *very*
limited exceptions, they really *do* fear being bound to no house?
Not that 'telekinetically gathering clothing makes any *more* sense,
though. Can we just accept that everything works the way JKR wants it
to, always will, and there can be odd issues like this because A Wizard
Quite Literally Did It?
TS, *especially* since you have the habit of running your main and a
sock at the same time, I'd suspect nearly as many people have plonked
you as are still reading your threads.
I mean, it's not like you see *me* asking what happened to the first two
Potterverse books when about 6-10 copies must have inevitably gone back
to 1632 with Grantville. Although admittedly if I ever validated a
Baen's Bar membership I *might* ask it. And, likely, immediately
afterwards receive a forum ban.
Some things you just have to let go. Or even form your own headcanon for.
--
Chrysi Cat
1/2 anthrocat, nearly 1/2 anthrofox, all magical
Transgoddess, quick to anger
Call me Chrysi or call me Kat, I'll respond to either!
get this done quick!
On 10/3/2016 1:49 PM, David DeLaney wrote:
> On 2016-10-02, tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> But if Dobby did pick up socks from under a bed, wouldn't that count as the
>> Malfoys giving him clothing?
>
> Nope. That counts as him _taking_ clothing that's lying there. If just picking
> up clothing freed a house-elf - or food, or supplies, or a broom - then no way
> could any CHORES get done. THINK, please.
>
firmly established that house elves indeed *do* count as receiving
clothes for something like that.
Remember how SPEW frightened the Hogwarts elves out of cleaning
Griffyndor Tower because they were always worried they'd pick up one of
those hats Hermione was laying out, not realising that with *very*
limited exceptions, they really *do* fear being bound to no house?
Not that 'telekinetically gathering clothing makes any *more* sense,
though. Can we just accept that everything works the way JKR wants it
to, always will, and there can be odd issues like this because A Wizard
Quite Literally Did It?
TS, *especially* since you have the habit of running your main and a
sock at the same time, I'd suspect nearly as many people have plonked
you as are still reading your threads.
I mean, it's not like you see *me* asking what happened to the first two
Potterverse books when about 6-10 copies must have inevitably gone back
to 1632 with Grantville. Although admittedly if I ever validated a
Baen's Bar membership I *might* ask it. And, likely, immediately
afterwards receive a forum ban.
Some things you just have to let go. Or even form your own headcanon for.
--
Chrysi Cat
1/2 anthrocat, nearly 1/2 anthrofox, all magical
Transgoddess, quick to anger
Call me Chrysi or call me Kat, I'll respond to either!
tsbr...@gmail.com
Oct 4, 2016, 6:54:49 PM10/4/16
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Kevrob
Oct 4, 2016, 7:06:39 PM10/4/16
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all the anachronisms in Muggle-world, and got them published, even if
they sank without a trace, Ms Rowling might inevitably face a copyright
violation lawsuit or prosecution - one she could lose.
Kevin R
hamis...@gmail.com
Oct 4, 2016, 7:25:49 PM10/4/16
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b) copyright would be unlikely to last for 350 years
Kevrob
Oct 4, 2016, 11:02:20 PM10/4/16
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century. whoever found them would have to hide them for use
by descendants.
Now, inventing the pulp-magazine, featuring
the adventures of Nicholas Flamel? People
were writing about him in OUR 17th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Flamel
Kevin R
Chrysi Cat
Oct 5, 2016, 1:14:03 AM10/5/16
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It wouldn't affect the content of the first two books. But I can see
books that glorified witchcraft that much being actively buried in the
new, more-religious world in which Grantville found itself. I certainly
*can't* see even an uptimer wanting to try for a semi-canonical
continuation, especially since *real* 'Pottermania' wouldn't have hit
until autumn 2000, by which time there was no 'there' for it to hit :-P
But my point is, I have inane side-tangents that obsess me too...I just
don't _write a new post every time one starts bugging me_! :-P
tsbr...@gmail.com
Oct 5, 2016, 3:31:12 AM10/5/16
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Bill Dugan
Oct 5, 2016, 1:53:43 PM10/5/16
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 14:48:34 -0600, Chrysi Cat <chry...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>You don't know how ill it's making me to have to defend TS...so let's
>get this done quick!
>
>On 10/3/2016 1:49 PM, David DeLaney wrote:
>> On 2016-10-02, tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>> But if Dobby did pick up socks from under a bed, wouldn't that count as the
>>> Malfoys giving him clothing?
>>
>> Nope. That counts as him _taking_ clothing that's lying there. If just picking
>> up clothing freed a house-elf - or food, or supplies, or a broom - then no way
>> could any CHORES get done. THINK, please.
>>
>
>Not that either of you isn't summoning voodoo sharks, but it's pretty
>firmly established that house elves indeed *do* count as receiving
>clothes for something like that.
>
>Remember how SPEW frightened the Hogwarts elves out of cleaning
>Griffyndor Tower because they were always worried they'd pick up one of
>those hats Hermione was laying out, not realising that with *very*
>limited exceptions, they really *do* fear being bound to no house?
Wouldn't it be the intention that makes them gifts?
wrote:
>You don't know how ill it's making me to have to defend TS...so let's
>get this done quick!
>
>On 10/3/2016 1:49 PM, David DeLaney wrote:
>> On 2016-10-02, tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>> But if Dobby did pick up socks from under a bed, wouldn't that count as the
>>> Malfoys giving him clothing?
>>
>> Nope. That counts as him _taking_ clothing that's lying there. If just picking
>> up clothing freed a house-elf - or food, or supplies, or a broom - then no way
>> could any CHORES get done. THINK, please.
>>
>
>Not that either of you isn't summoning voodoo sharks, but it's pretty
>firmly established that house elves indeed *do* count as receiving
>clothes for something like that.
>
>Remember how SPEW frightened the Hogwarts elves out of cleaning
>Griffyndor Tower because they were always worried they'd pick up one of
>those hats Hermione was laying out, not realising that with *very*
>limited exceptions, they really *do* fear being bound to no house?
Alie...@gmail.com
Oct 5, 2016, 3:02:28 PM10/5/16
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On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 10:53:43 AM UTC-7, Bill Dugan wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 14:48:34 -0600, Chrysi Cat <chry...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >You don't know how ill it's making me to have to defend TS...so let's
> >get this done quick!
> >
> >On 10/3/2016 1:49 PM, David DeLaney wrote:
> >> On 2016-10-02, tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >>> But if Dobby did pick up socks from under a bed, wouldn't that count as
> >>> the Malfoys giving him clothing?
> >>
> >> Nope. That counts as him _taking_ clothing that's lying there. If just
> >> picking up clothing freed a house-elf - or food, or supplies, or a broom -
> >> then no way could any CHORES get done. THINK, please.
> >
> >Not that either of you isn't summoning voodoo sharks, but it's pretty
> >firmly established that house elves indeed *do* count as receiving
> >clothes for something like that.
> >
> >Remember how SPEW frightened the Hogwarts elves out of cleaning
> >Griffyndor Tower because they were always worried they'd pick up one of
> >those hats Hermione was laying out, not realising that with *very*
> >limited exceptions, they really *do* fear being bound to no house?
>
> Wouldn't it be the intention that makes them gifts?
Given that intent, positive and negative, is necessary to magic, yes. There's plenty of instances of Magic Gone Wrong because the intent didn't match the physical action.
> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 14:48:34 -0600, Chrysi Cat <chry...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >You don't know how ill it's making me to have to defend TS...so let's
> >get this done quick!
> >
> >On 10/3/2016 1:49 PM, David DeLaney wrote:
> >> On 2016-10-02, tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >>> But if Dobby did pick up socks from under a bed, wouldn't that count as
> >>> the Malfoys giving him clothing?
> >>
> >> Nope. That counts as him _taking_ clothing that's lying there. If just
> >> picking up clothing freed a house-elf - or food, or supplies, or a broom -
> >> then no way could any CHORES get done. THINK, please.
> >
> >Not that either of you isn't summoning voodoo sharks, but it's pretty
> >firmly established that house elves indeed *do* count as receiving
> >clothes for something like that.
> >
> >Remember how SPEW frightened the Hogwarts elves out of cleaning
> >Griffyndor Tower because they were always worried they'd pick up one of
> >those hats Hermione was laying out, not realising that with *very*
> >limited exceptions, they really *do* fear being bound to no house?
>
> Wouldn't it be the intention that makes them gifts?
The house-elf-clothing thing is about intent to possess.
When Hermione laid out the clothing items, she *intended* for the elves to take them, making them elf-freeing because she no longer considered them her property. But the elves apparently couldn't tell which items were the result of ordinary laziness by other students who did want them back and which were her booby-trapped items, without touching them.
When Harry freed Dobby by hiding his sock in the diary it worked *not* because Malfoy wanted Dobby to have it, but because Malfoy didn't in his mind consider it his property.
> >Not that 'telekinetically gathering clothing makes any *more* sense,
> >though. Can we just accept that everything works the way JKR wants it
> >to, always will, and there can be odd issues like this because A Wizard
> >Quite Literally Did It?
> >TS, *especially* since you have the habit of running your main and a
> >sock at the same time, I'd suspect nearly as many people have plonked
> >you as are still reading your threads.
> >I mean, it's not like you see *me* asking what happened to the first two
> >Potterverse books when about 6-10 copies must have inevitably gone back
> >to 1632 with Grantville. Although admittedly if I ever validated a
> >Baen's Bar membership I *might* ask it. And, likely, immediately
> >afterwards receive a forum ban.
> >Some things you just have to let go. Or even form your own headcanon for.
Mark L. Fergerson
Bill Dugan
Oct 5, 2016, 3:30:29 PM10/5/16
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be gifts, Harry intended the sock to be a gift. If no longer
considering something to be property was enough, picking up any
intentionally discarded item would free house-elves.
David DeLaney
Oct 5, 2016, 10:30:32 PM10/5/16
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On 2016-10-05, Chrysi Cat <chry...@gmail.com> wrote:
> But my point is, I have inane side-tangents that obsess me too...I just
> don't _write a new post every time one starts bugging me_! :-P
Much less 5 or 6 repetitive but not quite identical ones, each ignoring the
> But my point is, I have inane side-tangents that obsess me too...I just
> don't _write a new post every time one starts bugging me_! :-P
answers the last few got...
Chrysi Cat
Oct 6, 2016, 10:07:11 PM10/6/16
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On 10/5/2016 8:30 PM, David DeLaney wrote:
> On 2016-10-05, Chrysi Cat <chry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> But my point is, I have inane side-tangents that obsess me too...I just
>> don't _write a new post every time one starts bugging me_! :-P
>
> Much less 5 or 6 repetitive but not quite identical ones, each ignoring the
> answers the last few got...
>
> Dave
>
It is at times like these that Usenet would be better if it had a 'like'
> On 2016-10-05, Chrysi Cat <chry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> But my point is, I have inane side-tangents that obsess me too...I just
>> don't _write a new post every time one starts bugging me_! :-P
>
> Much less 5 or 6 repetitive but not quite identical ones, each ignoring the
> answers the last few got...
>
> Dave
>
function. :-D
TB
Oct 8, 2016, 10:25:50 PM10/8/16
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On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 12:02:28 PM UTC-7, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
> The house-elf-clothing thing is about intent to possess.
>
> When Hermione laid out the clothing items, she *intended* for the elves to take them, making them elf-freeing because she no longer considered them her property. But the elves apparently couldn't tell which items were the result of ordinary laziness by other students who did want them back and which were her booby-trapped items, without touching them.
Solution: Pick up the clothes using the things janitors use to pick up trash from the ground.
> The house-elf-clothing thing is about intent to possess.
>
> When Hermione laid out the clothing items, she *intended* for the elves to take them, making them elf-freeing because she no longer considered them her property. But the elves apparently couldn't tell which items were the result of ordinary laziness by other students who did want them back and which were her booby-trapped items, without touching them.
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