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Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Nov 1, 2011, 5:44:16 PM11/1/11
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I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
a dictionary to back herself up.
I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
as well?
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to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
a dictionary to back herself up.
I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
as well?
--
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columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..
Lawrence Watt-Evans
Nov 1, 2011, 5:53:57 PM11/1/11
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On 2011-11-01 17:44:16 -0400, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan said:
> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
> a dictionary to back herself up.
>
> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
> as well?
Yes, it's "ware-tiger," etc. I don't know how you came to think otherwise.
> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
> a dictionary to back herself up.
>
> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
> as well?
While "were" is indeed cognate to the Latin "vir," the vowel sound
shifted drastically a few centuries ago, just like most other English
words, and "ware" is the common pronunciation.
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Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Nov 1, 2011, 6:00:38 PM11/1/11
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In article <j8pppl$h3l$1...@dont-email.me>,
until after years of reading it. Like hyperbole. That's pronounced
like hyperspace, right :-(
Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> wrote:
>On 2011-11-01 17:44:16 -0400, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan said:
>
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she
>produced
>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>>
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>
>Yes, it's "ware-tiger," etc. I don't know how you came to think otherwise.
>
>While "were" is indeed cognate to the Latin "vir," the vowel sound
>shifted drastically a few centuries ago, just like most other English
>words, and "ware" is the common pronunciation.
>
Hmm. I guess it's just one of those words I never heard pronounced
>On 2011-11-01 17:44:16 -0400, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan said:
>
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she
>produced
>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>>
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>
>Yes, it's "ware-tiger," etc. I don't know how you came to think otherwise.
>
>While "were" is indeed cognate to the Latin "vir," the vowel sound
>shifted drastically a few centuries ago, just like most other English
>words, and "ware" is the common pronunciation.
>
until after years of reading it. Like hyperbole. That's pronounced
like hyperspace, right :-(
tphile
Nov 1, 2011, 6:05:36 PM11/1/11
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Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Werewolf?
Igor: There.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: What?
Igor: There, wolf. There, castle.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Why are you talking that way?
Igor: I thought you wanted to.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: No, I don't want to.
Igor: [shrugs] Suit yourself. I'm easy.
Lynn McGuire
Nov 1, 2011, 6:24:20 PM11/1/11
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On 11/1/2011 4:44 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
> a dictionary to back herself up.
>
> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
> as well?
Just like Warren Zevon does:
> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
> a dictionary to back herself up.
>
> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
> as well?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRHIeblmIws
Lynn
David Johnston
Nov 1, 2011, 6:32:47 PM11/1/11
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On 11/1/2011 3:44 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
> a dictionary to back herself up.
>
> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
> as well?
Yup. Just call them wash and wear tigers.
> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
> a dictionary to back herself up.
>
> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
> as well?
Wayne Throop
Nov 1, 2011, 6:28:09 PM11/1/11
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:: I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
: Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net>
: Yes, it's "ware-tiger," etc.
if the original wolf one wasn't "ware".
<fx sfx="wolf howling in distance"></fx>
Fredrick Frankenstein: "Werewolf?"
Igor: <fx gesture="points into distance">There wolf.</fx>
:: dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
::
:: Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
:: prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger"
:: "ware-jackal" as well?
Yep, it's "ware" everything.
::
:: Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
:: prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger"
:: "ware-jackal" as well?
: Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net>
: Yes, it's "ware-tiger," etc.
: I don't know how you came to think otherwise.
Especially since Young Frankenstein doesn't work nearly as well
if the original wolf one wasn't "ware".
<fx sfx="wolf howling in distance"></fx>
Fredrick Frankenstein: "Werewolf?"
Igor: <fx gesture="points into distance">There wolf.</fx>
Brenda Clough
Nov 1, 2011, 6:36:02 PM11/1/11
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On 11/1/2011 5:44 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
> a dictionary to back herself up.
>
> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
> as well?
Have you never seen YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN? "Werewolf?" "There wolf!"
> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
> a dictionary to back herself up.
>
> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
> as well?
Brenda
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Robert Bannister
Nov 1, 2011, 6:38:56 PM11/1/11
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On 2/11/11 5:44 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
> a dictionary to back herself up.
>
> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
> as well?
It's always been "wear" for me.
> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
> a dictionary to back herself up.
>
> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
> as well?
--
Robert Bannister
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Nov 1, 2011, 6:38:04 PM11/1/11
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In article <j8ps8n$vq9$1...@dont-email.me>,
but no, I don't remember it at all, and I saw YF at least 3 times..
Damn your eyes, Igor!
Brenda Clough <Brenda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 11/1/2011 5:44 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she
>produced
>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>>
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>
>
>Have you never seen YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN? "Werewolf?" "There wolf!"
>
>Brenda
>
Well, it's apparently pretty memorable since 3 people have quoted it now
>On 11/1/2011 5:44 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she
>produced
>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>>
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>
>
>Have you never seen YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN? "Werewolf?" "There wolf!"
>
>Brenda
>
but no, I don't remember it at all, and I saw YF at least 3 times..
Damn your eyes, Igor!
Wayne Throop
Nov 1, 2011, 6:44:21 PM11/1/11
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:: Have you never seen YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN? "Werewolf?" "There wolf!"
: Well, it's apparently pretty memorable since 3 people have quoted it
Well, Marty Feldman *is* visually memorable, so maybe overshadows dialogue...
Of course, if it *were* sounds-like-pier-wolf,
then they could still do the joke as "Werewolf?" "Here wolf."
More exciting what with wolf location and all, but still...
You better stay away from him,
He'll rip your lungs out, Jim,
Huh, I'd like to meet his tailor...
Aaaaaaoooooooo...
--- Warren Zevon
: Well, it's apparently pretty memorable since 3 people have quoted it
: now but no, I don't remember it at all, and I saw YF at least 3
: times..
:
: Damn your eyes, Igor!
"Too late!"
: times..
:
: Damn your eyes, Igor!
Well, Marty Feldman *is* visually memorable, so maybe overshadows dialogue...
Of course, if it *were* sounds-like-pier-wolf,
then they could still do the joke as "Werewolf?" "Here wolf."
More exciting what with wolf location and all, but still...
You better stay away from him,
He'll rip your lungs out, Jim,
Huh, I'd like to meet his tailor...
Aaaaaaoooooooo...
--- Warren Zevon
Dorothy J Heydt
Nov 1, 2011, 6:31:52 PM11/1/11
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In article <9hb7hg...@mid.individual.net>,
original AS _wer_ meaning "a man, as distinguished from a woman
or a child" was pronounced.
--
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Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Should you wish to email me, you'd better use the gmail edress.
Kithrup's all spammy and hotmail's been hacked.
Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
>I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
>a dictionary to back herself up.
>
>I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
>Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>as well?
I pronounce it as "wear", knowing that's more or less how the
>I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
>a dictionary to back herself up.
>
>I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
>Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>as well?
original AS _wer_ meaning "a man, as distinguished from a woman
or a child" was pronounced.
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Should you wish to email me, you'd better use the gmail edress.
Kithrup's all spammy and hotmail's been hacked.
Dorothy J Heydt
Nov 1, 2011, 6:33:27 PM11/1/11
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>On 2011-11-01 17:44:16 -0400, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan said:
>
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she
>produced
>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>>
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>
>Yes, it's "ware-tiger," etc. I don't know how you came to think otherwise.
>
>While "were" is indeed cognate to the Latin "vir,"
Well, yes. It's from the Old English _wer_, which is cognate to
>
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she
>produced
>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>>
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>
>Yes, it's "ware-tiger," etc. I don't know how you came to think otherwise.
>
>While "were" is indeed cognate to the Latin "vir,"
_vir_.
>the vowel sound
>shifted drastically a few centuries ago, just like most other English
>words, and "ware" is the common pronunciation.
was chiefly long vowels that shifted and/or turned into
diphthongs.
Dorothy J Heydt
Nov 1, 2011, 6:34:25 PM11/1/11
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In article <9hb8g6...@mid.individual.net>,
Yes, except that having four syllables instead of three, its
accent changes. It's HY-per-space but hy-PER-bo-le.
Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
accent changes. It's HY-per-space but hy-PER-bo-le.
Greg Goss
Nov 1, 2011, 7:05:30 PM11/1/11
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>I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
>a dictionary to back herself up.
>
>I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
>Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>as well?
I'm halfway between your two options, pronouncing it as "were" (what
>to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
>a dictionary to back herself up.
>
>I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
>Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>as well?
WERE you thinking?)
--
"Recessions catch what the auditors miss." (Galbraith)
Greg Goss
Nov 1, 2011, 7:07:17 PM11/1/11
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>Hmm. I guess it's just one of those words I never heard pronounced
>until after years of reading it. Like hyperbole. That's pronounced
>like hyperspace, right :-(
I was well into my twenties before discovering that "infraring" light
>until after years of reading it. Like hyperbole. That's pronounced
>like hyperspace, right :-(
isn't a verb describing lengthening its wavelength. You have to get
your infrared light some other way.
Robert Carnegie
Nov 1, 2011, 7:23:30 PM11/1/11
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On Nov 1, 9:44 pm, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote:
> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
> a dictionary to back herself up.
Given Scooby-Doo has a TV show, I assume that that, like, establishes
> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
> a dictionary to back herself up.
an appropriate conventional use.
How do they do it in, say, the "Twilight" movies? Or in the well-
known song, "Werewolves of London"?
> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
> as well?
to Corwin right before they encounter a gang of shapeshifters.
That turns out to have a dual pronunciation too. I think we say
"Weere" in Scotland, but I seem to be not good at noticing these
situations of everyone except me saying a word wrong.
<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/weir> has audio.
I've brought up the word "misled" before, not necessarily here, but
probably.
<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/weir>
Robert Carnegie
Nov 1, 2011, 7:29:20 PM11/1/11
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On Nov 1, 10:00 pm, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote:
> In article <j8pppl$h3...@dont-email.me>,
Or like the trunk of a hypertree.
> In article <j8pppl$h3...@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire
Nov 1, 2011, 7:29:44 PM11/1/11
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Warren Zevon's buddy.
Lynn
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Nov 1, 2011, 7:28:43 PM11/1/11
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In article <d57efc62-fa25-4019...@t8g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
listen so good.
Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
>On Nov 1, 9:44�pm, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote:
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". �When I called her on it, she
>produced
>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>
>Given Scooby-Doo has a TV show, I assume that that, like, establishes
>an appropriate conventional use.
>
>How do they do it in, say, the "Twilight" movies? Or in the well-
>known song, "Werewolves of London"?
>
Apparently, I always heard it as "wear". Also apparently, I don't
>On Nov 1, 9:44�pm, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote:
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". �When I called her on it, she
>produced
>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>
>Given Scooby-Doo has a TV show, I assume that that, like, establishes
>an appropriate conventional use.
>
>How do they do it in, say, the "Twilight" movies? Or in the well-
>known song, "Werewolves of London"?
>
listen so good.
tphile
Nov 1, 2011, 7:34:51 PM11/1/11
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On Nov 1, 5:38 pm, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote:
> In article <j8ps8n$vq...@dont-email.me>,
which brings us too -
Igor: Dr. Frankenstein...
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: "Fronkensteen."
Igor: You're putting me on.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: No, it's pronounced "Fronkensteen."
Igor: Do you also say "Froaderick"?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: No... "Frederick."
Igor: Well, why isn't it "Froaderick Fronkensteen"?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: It isn't; it's "Frederick Fronkensteen."
Igor: I see.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: You must be Igor.
[He pronounces it ee-gor]
Igor: No, it's pronounced "eye-gor."
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: But they told me it was "ee-gor."
Igor: Well, they were wrong then, weren't they?
and then we have the case of people named "Jesus" and the planet
"Uranus"
> In article <j8ps8n$vq...@dont-email.me>,
Igor: Dr. Frankenstein...
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: "Fronkensteen."
Igor: You're putting me on.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: No, it's pronounced "Fronkensteen."
Igor: Do you also say "Froaderick"?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: No... "Frederick."
Igor: Well, why isn't it "Froaderick Fronkensteen"?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: It isn't; it's "Frederick Fronkensteen."
Igor: I see.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: You must be Igor.
[He pronounces it ee-gor]
Igor: No, it's pronounced "eye-gor."
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: But they told me it was "ee-gor."
Igor: Well, they were wrong then, weren't they?
and then we have the case of people named "Jesus" and the planet
"Uranus"
Kurt Busiek
Nov 1, 2011, 7:40:13 PM11/1/11
to
> As in James Taylor,
> Warren Zevon's buddy.
concert with "And he's looking for James Taylor."
But the line has never been "And I'd like to meet his Taylor." That
doesn't make a lick of sense.
kdb
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Kip Williams
Nov 1, 2011, 7:42:01 PM11/1/11
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Robert Carnegie wrote:
> I've brought up the word "misled" before, not necessarily here, but
> probably.
> <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/weir>
I probably smirked a little when one of the jocks got to the word
> I've brought up the word "misled" before, not necessarily here, but
> probably.
> <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/weir>
"biped" while reading to the class, back in sixth grade. I think he read
it twice, too. I knew better than to laugh.
Kip W
Bill Snyder
Nov 1, 2011, 7:46:10 PM11/1/11
to
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 16:40:13 -0700, Kurt Busiek <ku...@busiek.com>
wrote:
Next you're going to be carping that when, "Roland aimed his
Thompson gun/He didn't say a word," that OF COURSE he didn't.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
wrote:
Thompson gun/He didn't say a word," that OF COURSE he didn't.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
Kurt Busiek
Nov 1, 2011, 7:49:49 PM11/1/11
to
Zevon's affection for Admiral (or even Larry) Byrd, I might have a
comment...
Kurt Busiek
Nov 1, 2011, 7:51:34 PM11/1/11
to
reported in the Boston area.
I asked my mother if moles could sting, because I'd never heard that before...
Dorothy J Heydt
Nov 1, 2011, 7:42:44 PM11/1/11
to
In article <0c4c48ef-16b9-4ec9...@i15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
or city councilman and I don't want to get up to check the sample
ballot to find out -- in Vallejo. It's a perfectly good Spanish
(and, in this case, Filipino) personal name, but the streets are
plastered with campaign signs with "Jesus" in type about twice
the size of "Maldonado." Takes one aback, the first half-dozen
times.
tphile <tph...@cableone.net> wrote:
>
>and then we have the case of people named "Jesus" and the planet
>"Uranus"
There's a Jesus Maldonado running for -- I forget if it's mayor
>
>and then we have the case of people named "Jesus" and the planet
>"Uranus"
or city councilman and I don't want to get up to check the sample
ballot to find out -- in Vallejo. It's a perfectly good Spanish
(and, in this case, Filipino) personal name, but the streets are
plastered with campaign signs with "Jesus" in type about twice
the size of "Maldonado." Takes one aback, the first half-dozen
times.
Brian M. Scott
Nov 1, 2011, 8:04:24 PM11/1/11
to
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 22:31:52 GMT, Dorothy J Heydt
<djh...@kithrup.com> wrote in
<news:Lu06L...@kithrup.com> in rec.arts.sf.written:
> In article <9hb7hg...@mid.individual.net>,
> Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a
>> Scooby-Doo story to my neice and consistently pronounced
>> the object of Shaggy's fears as a "warewolf" as in
>> "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she
>> produced a dictionary to back herself up.
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with
>> "pier-wolf" which the dictionary called acceptable, but
>> not as common.
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures
>> "were" has been prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call
>> those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal" as well?
Yes, of course.
> I pronounce it as "wear", knowing that's more or less how the
> original AS _wer_ meaning "a man, as distinguished from a woman
> or a child" was pronounced.
And indeed it's from PGmc. *weraz, lowered from earlier
*wiraz; hence also German <Werwolf>, as in one of my
favorite verses by Christian Morgenstern:
Der Werwolf
Ein Werwolf eines Nachts entwich
von Weib und Kind, und sich begab
an eines Dorfschullehrers Grab
und bat ihn: Bitte, beuge mich!
Der Dorfschulmeister stieg hinauf
auf seines Blechschilds Messingknauf
und sprach zum Wolf, der seine Pfoten
geduldig kreuzte vor dem Toten:
"Der Werwolf", - sprach der gute Mann,
"des Weswolfs"- Genitiv sodann,
"dem Wemwolf" - Dativ, wie man's nennt,
"den Wenwolf" - damit hat's ein End.'
Dem Werwolf schmeichelten die Fälle,
er rollte seine Augenbälle.
Indessen, bat er, füge doch
zur Einzahl auch die Mehrzahl noch!
Der Dorfschulmeister aber mußte
gestehn, daß er von ihr nichts wußte.
Zwar Wölfe gäb's in großer Schar,
doch "Wer" gäb's nur im Singular.
Der Wolf erhob sich tränenblind -
er hatte ja doch Weib und Kind!!
Doch da er kein Gelehrter eben,
so schied er dankend und ergeben.
Brian
<djh...@kithrup.com> wrote in
<news:Lu06L...@kithrup.com> in rec.arts.sf.written:
> In article <9hb7hg...@mid.individual.net>,
> Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a
>> Scooby-Doo story to my neice and consistently pronounced
>> the object of Shaggy's fears as a "warewolf" as in
>> "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she
>> produced a dictionary to back herself up.
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with
>> "pier-wolf" which the dictionary called acceptable, but
>> not as common.
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures
>> "were" has been prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call
>> those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal" as well?
> I pronounce it as "wear", knowing that's more or less how the
> original AS _wer_ meaning "a man, as distinguished from a woman
> or a child" was pronounced.
*wiraz; hence also German <Werwolf>, as in one of my
favorite verses by Christian Morgenstern:
Der Werwolf
Ein Werwolf eines Nachts entwich
von Weib und Kind, und sich begab
an eines Dorfschullehrers Grab
und bat ihn: Bitte, beuge mich!
Der Dorfschulmeister stieg hinauf
auf seines Blechschilds Messingknauf
und sprach zum Wolf, der seine Pfoten
geduldig kreuzte vor dem Toten:
"Der Werwolf", - sprach der gute Mann,
"des Weswolfs"- Genitiv sodann,
"dem Wemwolf" - Dativ, wie man's nennt,
"den Wenwolf" - damit hat's ein End.'
Dem Werwolf schmeichelten die Fälle,
er rollte seine Augenbälle.
Indessen, bat er, füge doch
zur Einzahl auch die Mehrzahl noch!
Der Dorfschulmeister aber mußte
gestehn, daß er von ihr nichts wußte.
Zwar Wölfe gäb's in großer Schar,
doch "Wer" gäb's nur im Singular.
Der Wolf erhob sich tränenblind -
er hatte ja doch Weib und Kind!!
Doch da er kein Gelehrter eben,
so schied er dankend und ergeben.
Brian
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Nov 1, 2011, 8:05:49 PM11/1/11
to
On 11/1/11 5:44 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
> a dictionary to back herself up.
>
> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
> as well?
I would say like "Where" but those are basically pronounced the same.
> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
> a dictionary to back herself up.
>
> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
> as well?
I've NEVER heard anyone say "weir" wolf. Uncommon doesn't cut it, that's
a RAREwolf usage.
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Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Nov 1, 2011, 8:07:59 PM11/1/11
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and was surprised to hear it pronounced "High-PER-Bow-Lee".
Kurt Busiek
Nov 1, 2011, 8:10:12 PM11/1/11
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On 2011-11-01 17:07:59 -0700, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
What, you mean it's not "High-PER-Spah-See"?
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Nov 1, 2011, 8:09:45 PM11/1/11
to
a wolf, now he's a man).
Dorothy J Heydt
Nov 1, 2011, 7:44:36 PM11/1/11
to
In article <9hbdlb...@mid.individual.net>,
And then there was a short story in, I think, F&SF long long ago,
in which a fellow went around saying that he was a wolf, as it
were, but that didn't make him a werewolf. Until he found out he
was one.
Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
in which a fellow went around saying that he was a wolf, as it
were, but that didn't make him a werewolf. Until he found out he
was one.
Kip Williams
Nov 1, 2011, 8:44:19 PM11/1/11
to
Kurt Busiek wrote:
> When I was young, the Globe had a headline about a RASH OF MOLESTINGS
> reported in the Boston area.
>
> I asked my mother if moles could sting, because I'd never heard that
> before...
Cue the one about the little boy who wanted the book _Advice for Young
> When I was young, the Globe had a headline about a RASH OF MOLESTINGS
> reported in the Boston area.
>
> I asked my mother if moles could sting, because I'd never heard that
> before...
Mothers_ because he wanted to collect moths.
Kip W
Dorothy J Heydt
Nov 1, 2011, 8:19:53 PM11/1/11
to
In article <xb3m3ww14z8b.1t7uae527w550$.d...@40tude.net>,
Ah yes.
Here's Max Knight's translation:
http://traving.com/lit-morgenstern-werwolf-e.html
Here's Max Knight's translation:
http://traving.com/lit-morgenstern-werwolf-e.html
Dorothy J Heydt
Nov 1, 2011, 8:17:27 PM11/1/11
to
Dorothy J Heydt
Nov 1, 2011, 9:30:25 PM11/1/11
to
In article <En0sq.6336$D32....@newsfe20.iad>,
And, going even further afield, Carl Sagan's story about how he
went to a library asking for a book about the stars, and the
librarian gave him a book all about Clark Gable and Hedy Lamarr.
He explained that that wasn't what he wanted, "and for some
reason, she smiled ... and then she gave me another book."
went to a library asking for a book about the stars, and the
librarian gave him a book all about Clark Gable and Hedy Lamarr.
He explained that that wasn't what he wanted, "and for some
reason, she smiled ... and then she gave me another book."
Don Bruder
Nov 1, 2011, 10:06:23 PM11/1/11
to
In article <3211b7d58247acmv5...@4ax.com>,
Of course. But he *DID* blow Van Owen's body from there to
Johannesburg... :)
(Yeah, yeah, not that pretty at all.)
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Nov 1, 2011, 10:24:44 PM11/1/11
to
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 17:53:57 -0400, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net>
and I think the favoured since that is the pronunciation in the
recording, is where-. I use weer- myself, and there is also wir-
which I had never heard of before.
[snip]
Sincerely,
Gene "What is a wir-chenko anyway?" Wirchenko
wrote:
>On 2011-11-01 17:44:16 -0400, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan said:
>
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>>
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>
>Yes, it's "ware-tiger," etc. I don't know how you came to think otherwise.
dictionary.com gives three pronunciations under werewolf. One,
>On 2011-11-01 17:44:16 -0400, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan said:
>
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>>
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>
>Yes, it's "ware-tiger," etc. I don't know how you came to think otherwise.
and I think the favoured since that is the pronunciation in the
recording, is where-. I use weer- myself, and there is also wir-
which I had never heard of before.
[snip]
Sincerely,
Gene "What is a wir-chenko anyway?" Wirchenko
Ken from Chicago
Nov 1, 2011, 11:40:09 PM11/1/11
to
Where
Wolf
-- Ken from Chicago
Wolf
-- Ken from Chicago
tphile
Nov 1, 2011, 11:49:24 PM11/1/11
to
On Nov 1, 10:40 pm, "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net>
wrote:
There Der Kessel, and Miss Agatha has something to say
wrote:
> Where
> Wolf
>
> -- Ken from Chicago
There Wolf
> Wolf
>
> -- Ken from Chicago
There Der Kessel, and Miss Agatha has something to say
Message has been deleted
Bill Snyder
Nov 2, 2011, 12:20:57 AM11/2/11
to
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:44:36 GMT, djh...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:
>In article <9hbdlb...@mid.individual.net>,
>Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
>>In article <d57efc62-fa25-4019...@t8g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
Heydt) wrote:
>In article <9hbdlb...@mid.individual.net>,
>Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
>>In article <d57efc62-fa25-4019...@t8g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
>>Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote: >>On Nov 1, 9:440m, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote:
>>>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>>>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>>>> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". hen I called her on it, she
>>>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>>>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>>>produced
>>>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>>>
>>>Given Scooby-Doo has a TV show, I assume that that, like, establishes
>>>an appropriate conventional use.
>>>
>>>How do they do it in, say, the "Twilight" movies? Or in the well-
>>>known song, "Werewolves of London"?
>>>
>>
>>Apparently, I always heard it as "wear". Also apparently, I don't
>>listen so good.
>
>And then there was a short story in, I think, F&SF long long ago,
>in which a fellow went around saying that he was a wolf, as it
>were, but that didn't make him a werewolf. Until he found out he
>was one.
Boucher's _The Compleat Werewolf_, sounds like, but from _Unknown
>>>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>>>
>>>Given Scooby-Doo has a TV show, I assume that that, like, establishes
>>>an appropriate conventional use.
>>>
>>>How do they do it in, say, the "Twilight" movies? Or in the well-
>>>known song, "Werewolves of London"?
>>>
>>
>>Apparently, I always heard it as "wear". Also apparently, I don't
>>listen so good.
>
>And then there was a short story in, I think, F&SF long long ago,
>in which a fellow went around saying that he was a wolf, as it
>were, but that didn't make him a werewolf. Until he found out he
>was one.
Worlds_, of which I don't think I've ever even seen a copy. The
protag's name was something like Wolfe Wolf.
Dorothy J Heydt
Nov 2, 2011, 12:33:17 AM11/2/11
to
In article <4sg1b7tcgm5mcsqb1...@4ax.com>,
Yes it was, but that's a different story. Wolfe Wolf was just an
ordinary academic till the guy in the bar looked at his fingers
and told him. The guy I'm trying to think of was a wolf, as in
letch, and I forget what his comeuppance was exactly.
(Wolfe Wolf, whose adventure you can read in NESFA Press's _The
Complete Boucher_, wound up working for the US Treasury
Department.)
ordinary academic till the guy in the bar looked at his fingers
and told him. The guy I'm trying to think of was a wolf, as in
letch, and I forget what his comeuppance was exactly.
(Wolfe Wolf, whose adventure you can read in NESFA Press's _The
Complete Boucher_, wound up working for the US Treasury
Department.)
Ran Garoo
Nov 2, 2011, 1:04:29 AM11/2/11
to
In 62 years not once, on tv, in movies, radio or in person has anyone
used ware wolf.
Now, I will have to listen closely to how broadcasters and nearby humans
pronounce.
Are their any archives online that can be consulted in re spoken movie
trailers?
I swear Micheal Landon used weer.
Must research. Must watch neighbors cloesly this full moon.
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Nov 2, 2011, 2:13:12 AM11/2/11
to
Twice, once at about 35 seconds in, once about 60 seconds in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEqlCa-ABCc&feature=related
tphile
Nov 2, 2011, 4:09:42 AM11/2/11
to
On Nov 1, 11:33 pm, djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:
> In article <4sg1b7tcgm5mcsqb135mefh064t84q0...@4ax.com>,
> Bill Snyder <bsny...@airmail.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:44:36 GMT, djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
> >Heydt) wrote:
>
> >>In article <9hbdlbFtg...@mid.individual.net>,
> >>>Robert Carnegie <rja.carne...@excite.com> wrote: >>On Nov 1, 9:440m,
Wolf Wolf was also Eddie Munsters . . .uh . . .doll. (not sure what
to call it or him)
> In article <4sg1b7tcgm5mcsqb135mefh064t84q0...@4ax.com>,
> Bill Snyder <bsny...@airmail.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:44:36 GMT, djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
> >Heydt) wrote:
>
> >>In article <9hbdlbFtg...@mid.individual.net>,
> >>Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
> >>>In article <d57efc62-fa25-4019-8c86-facf56b78...@t8g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
> >>>Robert Carnegie <rja.carne...@excite.com> wrote: >>On Nov 1, 9:440m,
to call it or him)
Doug Wickström
Nov 2, 2011, 4:16:01 AM11/2/11
to
--
Doug Wickström
Brian M. Scott
Nov 2, 2011, 4:21:26 AM11/2/11
to
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:05:49 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E.
Spoor)" <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote in
<news:j8q1gt$1a2$1...@dont-email.me> in rec.arts.sf.written:
> On 11/1/11 5:44 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
[...]
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures
>> "were" has been prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call
>> those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal" as well?
> I would say like "Where" but those are basically
> pronounced the same.
Not by those of us who still have the wh/w distinction!
[...]
Brian
Spoor)" <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote in
<news:j8q1gt$1a2$1...@dont-email.me> in rec.arts.sf.written:
> On 11/1/11 5:44 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures
>> "were" has been prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call
>> those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal" as well?
> I would say like "Where" but those are basically
> pronounced the same.
[...]
Brian
Jared
Nov 2, 2011, 5:03:20 AM11/2/11
to
On 11/1/2011 9:30 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article<En0sq.6336$D32....@newsfe20.iad>,
> Kip Williams<mrk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Kurt Busiek wrote:
>>
>>> When I was young, the Globe had a headline about a RASH OF MOLESTINGS
>>> reported in the Boston area.
>>>
>>> I asked my mother if moles could sting, because I'd never heard that
>>> before...
>>
>> Cue the one about the little boy who wanted the book _Advice for Young
>> Mothers_ because he wanted to collect moths.
>
> And, going even further afield, Carl Sagan's story about how he
> went to a library asking for a book about the stars, and the
> librarian gave him a book all about Clark Gable and Hedy Lamarr.
> He explained that that wasn't what he wanted, "and for some
> reason, she smiled ... and then she gave me another book."
>
I went to the library asking for a book on spread-spectrum communication
> In article<En0sq.6336$D32....@newsfe20.iad>,
> Kip Williams<mrk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Kurt Busiek wrote:
>>
>>> When I was young, the Globe had a headline about a RASH OF MOLESTINGS
>>> reported in the Boston area.
>>>
>>> I asked my mother if moles could sting, because I'd never heard that
>>> before...
>>
>> Cue the one about the little boy who wanted the book _Advice for Young
>> Mothers_ because he wanted to collect moths.
>
> And, going even further afield, Carl Sagan's story about how he
> went to a library asking for a book about the stars, and the
> librarian gave him a book all about Clark Gable and Hedy Lamarr.
> He explained that that wasn't what he wanted, "and for some
> reason, she smiled ... and then she gave me another book."
>
technology, and they gave me a book on Hedy Lamarr...
--
Jared
Jaimie Vandenbergh
Nov 2, 2011, 5:42:18 AM11/2/11
to
Cheers - Jaimie
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Some have one year's experience several times.
Jaimie Vandenbergh
Nov 2, 2011, 5:51:01 AM11/2/11
to
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:05:49 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>On 11/1/11 5:44 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>>
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>
> I would say like "Where" but those are basically pronounced the same.
>I've NEVER heard anyone say "weir" wolf. Uncommon doesn't cut it, that's
>a RAREwolf usage.
"Weir"wolf is common in the UK, it's the pronunciation I grew up with.
<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>On 11/1/11 5:44 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>>
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>
> I would say like "Where" but those are basically pronounced the same.
>I've NEVER heard anyone say "weir" wolf. Uncommon doesn't cut it, that's
>a RAREwolf usage.
(Checks) The OED2's pronunciation guide only has that version. I don't
know how to transcribe IPA correctly, but it is
w
small cap i
upside-down e
r
The ie combo is to be pronounced as in "here, fear".
Cheers - Jaimie
--
'The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human
mind to correlate all its contents' - H.P.Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu"
Bernard Peek
Nov 2, 2011, 6:06:36 AM11/2/11
to
On 02/11/11 00:05, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
> On 11/1/11 5:44 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she
>> produced
>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>>
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>
> I would say like "Where" but those are basically pronounced the
> same. I've NEVER heard anyone say "weir" wolf. Uncommon doesn't cut it,
> that's a RAREwolf usage.
Around here (London, UK) both pronunciations are common. I use the where
> On 11/1/11 5:44 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she
>> produced
>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>>
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>
> I would say like "Where" but those are basically pronounced the
> same. I've NEVER heard anyone say "weir" wolf. Uncommon doesn't cut it,
> that's a RAREwolf usage.
variant.
--
Bernard Peek
b...@shrdlu.com
Brian M. Scott
Nov 2, 2011, 7:42:36 AM11/2/11
to
On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 09:51:01 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh
<jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote in
<news:p642b792jv22sqe68...@4ax.com> in
rec.arts.sf.written:
> On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:05:49 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
> <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>>On 11/1/11 5:44 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
[...]
>>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures
>>> "were" has been prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call
>>> those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal" as well?
>> I would say like "Where" but those are basically
>> pronounced the same. I've NEVER heard anyone say "weir"
>> wolf. Uncommon doesn't cut it, that's a RAREwolf usage.
> "Weir"wolf is common in the UK, it's the pronunciation I
> grew up with.
> (Checks) The OED2's pronunciation guide only has that
> version. I don't know how to transcribe IPA correctly,
> but it is
> w
> small cap i
> upside-down e
> r
That's /ˈwɪərwʊlf/.
> The ie combo is to be pronounced as in "here, fear".
OED3 (online) gives /ˈwɪə-/ /ˈwɜːwʊlf/. The first of these
is the Southern Brit. non-rhotic pronunciation of the first
syllable, to rhyme with <here> and <fear>; the second is the
non-rhotic pronunciation in which it rhymes with <her> and
<fur>. The <ware> pronunciation would probably have been
written /wɛəwʊlf/, had they included it.
Brian
<jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote in
<news:p642b792jv22sqe68...@4ax.com> in
rec.arts.sf.written:
> On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:05:49 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
> <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>>On 11/1/11 5:44 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures
>>> "were" has been prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call
>>> those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal" as well?
>> I would say like "Where" but those are basically
>> pronounced the same. I've NEVER heard anyone say "weir"
>> wolf. Uncommon doesn't cut it, that's a RAREwolf usage.
> "Weir"wolf is common in the UK, it's the pronunciation I
> grew up with.
> (Checks) The OED2's pronunciation guide only has that
> version. I don't know how to transcribe IPA correctly,
> but it is
> w
> small cap i
> upside-down e
> r
> The ie combo is to be pronounced as in "here, fear".
is the Southern Brit. non-rhotic pronunciation of the first
syllable, to rhyme with <here> and <fear>; the second is the
non-rhotic pronunciation in which it rhymes with <her> and
<fur>. The <ware> pronunciation would probably have been
written /wɛəwʊlf/, had they included it.
Brian
Jaimie Vandenbergh
Nov 2, 2011, 7:47:06 AM11/2/11
to
Your news client declares your post to be UTF-8, but it lies so it's
unlikely this'll work out.
>> The ie combo is to be pronounced as in "here, fear".
>
>is the Southern Brit. non-rhotic pronunciation of the first
>syllable, to rhyme with <here> and <fear>; the second is the
>non-rhotic pronunciation in which it rhymes with <her> and
><fur>.
I should check for updates - this is the Mac version I'm using.
>syllable, to rhyme with <here> and <fear>; the second is the
>non-rhotic pronunciation in which it rhymes with <her> and
><fur>.
> The <ware> pronunciation would probably have been
backwards-3, upside-down e, I think.
Cheers - Jaimie
--
"Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative." - Oscar Wilde
Brian M. Scott
Nov 2, 2011, 7:55:57 AM11/2/11
to
On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:47:06 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh
<jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote in
<news:1bb2b79fmsr262kd0...@4ax.com> in
rec.arts.sf.written:
It comes through fine for me as UTF-8.
>>> The ie combo is to be pronounced as in "here, fear".
>>OED3 (online) gives /?w??-/ /?w??w?lf/. The first of these
>>is the Southern Brit. non-rhotic pronunciation of the first
>>syllable, to rhyme with <here> and <fear>; the second is the
>>non-rhotic pronunciation in which it rhymes with <her> and
>><fur>.
> I should check for updates - this is the Mac version I'm using.
>> The <ware> pronunciation would probably have been
>>written /w??w?lf/, had they included it.
> backwards-3, upside-down e, I think.
Yes.
Brian
<jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote in
<news:1bb2b79fmsr262kd0...@4ax.com> in
rec.arts.sf.written:
>>> The ie combo is to be pronounced as in "here, fear".
>>OED3 (online) gives /?w??-/ /?w??w?lf/. The first of these
>>is the Southern Brit. non-rhotic pronunciation of the first
>>syllable, to rhyme with <here> and <fear>; the second is the
>>non-rhotic pronunciation in which it rhymes with <her> and
>><fur>.
> I should check for updates - this is the Mac version I'm using.
>> The <ware> pronunciation would probably have been
>>written /w??w?lf/, had they included it.
> backwards-3, upside-down e, I think.
Brian
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Nov 2, 2011, 8:17:18 AM11/2/11
to
On 11/2/11 1:04 AM, Ran Garoo wrote:
> On 11/1/2011 20:40, Ken from Chicago wrote:
>> Where
>> Wolf
>>
>> -- Ken from Chicago
>
> Werewolf as in weer-wulf.
> In 62 years not once, on tv, in movies, radio or in person has anyone
> used ware wolf.
Every movie or TV show *I* ever saw they said "where" wolf. Except for
> On 11/1/2011 20:40, Ken from Chicago wrote:
>> Where
>> Wolf
>>
>> -- Ken from Chicago
>
> Werewolf as in weer-wulf.
> In 62 years not once, on tv, in movies, radio or in person has anyone
> used ware wolf.
people with exaggerated stereotypical "Transylvanian" accents, who DID
sometimes say "weeer-wolf".
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Nov 2, 2011, 9:10:25 AM11/2/11
to
demonstrate in an exaggerated fashion. In either case, Where sounds more
like wear than weer.
Ken from Chicago
Nov 2, 2011, 9:22:02 AM11/2/11
to
"Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote in message
news:j8rcce$jhe$2...@dont-email.me...
wrong side of the road, call soccer "football" and have ridiculously low
murder per capita rate.
-- Ken from Chicago
P.S. And don't get me started on them using monopoly money instead of good
ole fashioned greenbacks.
T Guy
Nov 2, 2011, 10:04:12 AM11/2/11
to
On Nov 2, 12:10 am, Kurt Busiek <k...@busiek.com> wrote:
> On 2011-11-01 17:07:59 -0700, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
No way. It would be 'High Per Spack ee.'
> On 2011-11-01 17:07:59 -0700, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
> <seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> said:
> > I always read it as "hyper-bowl" (like the Super Bowl, only more so!)
> > and was surprised to hear it pronounced "High-PER-Bow-Lee".
>
> What, you mean it's not "High-PER-Spah-See"?
> > I always read it as "hyper-bowl" (like the Super Bowl, only more so!)
> > and was surprised to hear it pronounced "High-PER-Bow-Lee".
>
No way. It would be 'High Per Spack ee.'
Taki Kogoma
Nov 2, 2011, 11:30:58 AM11/2/11
to
On 2011-11-02, Paul Arthur <junk+...@flowerysong.com>
allegedly proclaimed to rec.arts.sf.written:
> On 2011-11-02, Ken from Chicago <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Where
>> Wolf
>
> There wolf. There castle.
What about the Pernese variant?
Gym "Weyrwolf?" Quirk
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Just an article detector on the Information Supercollider.
allegedly proclaimed to rec.arts.sf.written:
> On 2011-11-02, Ken from Chicago <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Where
>> Wolf
>
> There wolf. There castle.
What about the Pernese variant?
Gym "Weyrwolf?" Quirk
--
Capt. Gym Z. Quirk (Known to some as Taki Kogoma) quirk @ swcp.com
Just an article detector on the Information Supercollider.
lal_truckee
Nov 2, 2011, 11:35:15 AM11/2/11
to
On 11/1/11 5:10 PM, Kurt Busiek wrote:
>
> What, you mean it's not "High-PER-Spah-See"?
I had a girlfriend who was HIGH-per-space-eee, but she was too warped to
>
> What, you mean it's not "High-PER-Spah-See"?
stay with so we split up.
Wayne Throop
Nov 2, 2011, 11:34:41 AM11/2/11
to
:: There wolf. There castle.
: What about the Pernese variant?
: Gym "Weyrwolf?" Quirk
Theyr wolf. Theyr dragon. Theyr thread.
: What about the Pernese variant?
: Gym "Weyrwolf?" Quirk
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
Nov 2, 2011, 11:56:28 AM11/2/11
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t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote in
news:9hb7hg...@mid.individual.net:
> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo
> story to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of
> Shaggy's fears as a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When
> I called her on it, she produced a dictionary to back herself
> up.
>
> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which
> the dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
--
Terry Austin
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
news:9hb7hg...@mid.individual.net:
> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo
> story to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of
> Shaggy's fears as a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When
> I called her on it, she produced a dictionary to back herself
> up.
>
> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which
> the dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has
> been prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger"
> "ware-jackal" as well?
I suspect a lot of people can't actually tell the difference.
> been prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger"
> "ware-jackal" as well?
--
Terry Austin
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Howard Brazee
Nov 2, 2011, 12:09:58 PM11/2/11
to
On 1 Nov 2011 22:00:38 GMT, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
audio dictionaries pronounce them the way I do. What am I missing
Learning words by reading had me pronouncing hogshead as hog-shed.
I didn't know that an epitome the way I pronounced (epi-tome) it was
the same as an epitome that I heard.
I didn't know that a ron-day-vue that newsmen said the Astronauts had
was the same as a rendezvous that were in books.
Nor that my mom's orderbs were the same as books' "hors d'oeuvre".
I even mis-pronounced Vonda MacIntyre.
--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison
wrote:
>Hmm. I guess it's just one of those words I never heard pronounced
>until after years of reading it. Like hyperbole. That's pronounced
>like hyperspace, right :-(
You made me look these up, because I pronounced them similarly. The
>Hmm. I guess it's just one of those words I never heard pronounced
>until after years of reading it. Like hyperbole. That's pronounced
>like hyperspace, right :-(
audio dictionaries pronounce them the way I do. What am I missing
Learning words by reading had me pronouncing hogshead as hog-shed.
I didn't know that an epitome the way I pronounced (epi-tome) it was
the same as an epitome that I heard.
I didn't know that a ron-day-vue that newsmen said the Astronauts had
was the same as a rendezvous that were in books.
Nor that my mom's orderbs were the same as books' "hors d'oeuvre".
I even mis-pronounced Vonda MacIntyre.
--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison
Howard Brazee
Nov 2, 2011, 12:12:42 PM11/2/11
to
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 15:05:36 -0700 (PDT), tphile <tph...@cableone.net>
wrote:
>
>Inga: Werewolf!
>Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Werewolf?
>Igor: There.
>Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: What?
>Igor: There, wolf. There, castle.
>Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Why are you talking that way?
>Igor: I thought you wanted to.
>Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: No, I don't want to.
>Igor: [shrugs] Suit yourself. I'm easy.
In a movie newsgroup one time, some European (Italian?) wrote to ask
what the English pun was. He heard a completely different pun in
his dubbed version - one that I remember as being better than the
original.
Good translators need to be creative when a pun doesn't translate.
wrote:
>
>Inga: Werewolf!
>Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Werewolf?
>Igor: There.
>Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: What?
>Igor: There, wolf. There, castle.
>Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Why are you talking that way?
>Igor: I thought you wanted to.
>Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: No, I don't want to.
>Igor: [shrugs] Suit yourself. I'm easy.
In a movie newsgroup one time, some European (Italian?) wrote to ask
what the English pun was. He heard a completely different pun in
his dubbed version - one that I remember as being better than the
original.
Good translators need to be creative when a pun doesn't translate.
Howard Brazee
Nov 2, 2011, 12:14:01 PM11/2/11
to
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:36:02 -0400, Brenda Clough
<Brenda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>
>
>Have you never seen YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN? "Werewolf?" "There wolf!"
<Brenda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>
>
I've heard stretches for puns before.
Howard Brazee
Nov 2, 2011, 12:20:18 PM11/2/11
to
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:29:44 -0500, Lynn McGuire <l...@winsim.com>
wrote:
>> You better stay away from him,
>> He'll rip your lungs out, Jim,
>> Huh, I'd like to meet his tailor...
>> Aaaaaaoooooooo...
>> --- Warren Zevon
>
>It's Taylor, not tailor. As in James Taylor,
>Warren Zevon's buddy.
I'm unfamiliar with the song - it was 1978, back when I knew a lot
more popular music than I do now (but not nearly as much as I knew a
decade earlier). But _Young Frankenstein_ was 1974, so I'm
confused. Wikipedia's Warren Zevon article doesn't mention James
Taylor.
wrote:
>> You better stay away from him,
>> He'll rip your lungs out, Jim,
>> Huh, I'd like to meet his tailor...
>> Aaaaaaoooooooo...
>> --- Warren Zevon
>
>It's Taylor, not tailor. As in James Taylor,
>Warren Zevon's buddy.
I'm unfamiliar with the song - it was 1978, back when I knew a lot
more popular music than I do now (but not nearly as much as I knew a
decade earlier). But _Young Frankenstein_ was 1974, so I'm
confused. Wikipedia's Warren Zevon article doesn't mention James
Taylor.
Howard Brazee
Nov 2, 2011, 12:27:15 PM11/2/11
to
Actually, it doesn't come up in my conversation.
Howard Brazee
Nov 2, 2011, 12:28:25 PM11/2/11
to
On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:09:58 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
wrote:
>You made me look these up, because I pronounced them similarly. The
>audio dictionaries pronounce them the way I do. What am I missing
>
>Learning words by reading had me pronouncing hogshead as hog-shed.
>
>I didn't know that an epitome the way I pronounced (epi-tome) it was
>the same as an epitome that I heard.
>
>I didn't know that a ron-day-vue that newsmen said the Astronauts had
>was the same as a rendezvous that were in books.
>
>Nor that my mom's orderbs were the same as books' "hors d'oeuvre".
>
>I even mis-pronounced Vonda MacIntyre.
Or DuQuesne.
wrote:
>You made me look these up, because I pronounced them similarly. The
>audio dictionaries pronounce them the way I do. What am I missing
>
>Learning words by reading had me pronouncing hogshead as hog-shed.
>
>I didn't know that an epitome the way I pronounced (epi-tome) it was
>the same as an epitome that I heard.
>
>I didn't know that a ron-day-vue that newsmen said the Astronauts had
>was the same as a rendezvous that were in books.
>
>Nor that my mom's orderbs were the same as books' "hors d'oeuvre".
>
>I even mis-pronounced Vonda MacIntyre.
David DeLaney
Nov 2, 2011, 12:40:04 PM11/2/11
to
On 1 Nov 2011 21:44:16 GMT, Ted Nolan <tednolan> <t...@loft.tnolan.com> wrote:
>I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
>a dictionary to back herself up.
>
>I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
>I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she produced
>a dictionary to back herself up.
>
>I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>
>Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>as well?
It's been "wear" for me all along, I fear. "Wier" would be spelled ... "wier".
>prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>as well?
Or at worst "weir".
Dave
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David DeLaney
Nov 2, 2011, 12:44:05 PM11/2/11
to
Jared <jare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> Kip Williams<mrk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Kurt Busiek wrote:
>>>> When I was young, the Globe had a headline about a RASH OF MOLESTINGS
>>>> reported in the Boston area.
>>>>
>>>> I asked my mother if moles could sting, because I'd never heard that
>>>> before...
>>>
>>> Cue the one about the little boy who wanted the book _Advice for Young
>>> Mothers_ because he wanted to collect moths.
>>
>> And, going even further afield, Carl Sagan's story about how he
>> went to a library asking for a book about the stars, and the
>> librarian gave him a book all about Clark Gable and Hedy Lamarr.
>> He explained that that wasn't what he wanted, "and for some
>> reason, she smiled ... and then she gave me another book."
>
>I went to the library asking for a book on spread-spectrum communication
>technology, and they gave me a book on Hedy Lamarr...
ObYF: "Hedley!"
>> Kip Williams<mrk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Kurt Busiek wrote:
>>>> When I was young, the Globe had a headline about a RASH OF MOLESTINGS
>>>> reported in the Boston area.
>>>>
>>>> I asked my mother if moles could sting, because I'd never heard that
>>>> before...
>>>
>>> Cue the one about the little boy who wanted the book _Advice for Young
>>> Mothers_ because he wanted to collect moths.
>>
>> And, going even further afield, Carl Sagan's story about how he
>> went to a library asking for a book about the stars, and the
>> librarian gave him a book all about Clark Gable and Hedy Lamarr.
>> He explained that that wasn't what he wanted, "and for some
>> reason, she smiled ... and then she gave me another book."
>
>I went to the library asking for a book on spread-spectrum communication
>technology, and they gave me a book on Hedy Lamarr...
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Nov 2, 2011, 12:53:24 PM11/2/11
to
In article <hmp2b7h65e7lloato...@4ax.com>,
"hy-PER-bo-le". I always assumed it was "hyper-bowl"
>
>Learning words by reading had me pronouncing hogshead as hog-shed.
>
>I didn't know that an epitome the way I pronounced (epi-tome) it was
>the same as an epitome that I heard.
Yep, that one bit me too.
>
>I didn't know that a ron-day-vue that newsmen said the Astronauts had
>was the same as a rendezvous that were in books.
>
>Nor that my mom's orderbs were the same as books' "hors d'oeuvre".
And that one.
One that I've posited but never heard in the wild is "eva-porate"
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What's not in Columbia anymore..
Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
>On 1 Nov 2011 22:00:38 GMT, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
>wrote:
>
>>Hmm. I guess it's just one of those words I never heard pronounced
>>until after years of reading it. Like hyperbole. That's pronounced
>>like hyperspace, right :-(
>
>You made me look these up, because I pronounced them similarly. The
>audio dictionaries pronounce them the way I do. What am I missing
Well, as several people have mentioned it's "hyper-space" but
>On 1 Nov 2011 22:00:38 GMT, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
>wrote:
>
>>Hmm. I guess it's just one of those words I never heard pronounced
>>until after years of reading it. Like hyperbole. That's pronounced
>>like hyperspace, right :-(
>
>You made me look these up, because I pronounced them similarly. The
>audio dictionaries pronounce them the way I do. What am I missing
"hy-PER-bo-le". I always assumed it was "hyper-bowl"
>
>Learning words by reading had me pronouncing hogshead as hog-shed.
>
>I didn't know that an epitome the way I pronounced (epi-tome) it was
>the same as an epitome that I heard.
>
>I didn't know that a ron-day-vue that newsmen said the Astronauts had
>was the same as a rendezvous that were in books.
>
>Nor that my mom's orderbs were the same as books' "hors d'oeuvre".
>
>I even mis-pronounced Vonda MacIntyre.
>
It's not von-da mac-en-tyre?
>I even mis-pronounced Vonda MacIntyre.
>
One that I've posited but never heard in the wild is "eva-porate"
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What's not in Columbia anymore..
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Nov 2, 2011, 12:54:36 PM11/2/11
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In article <nsr2b7tdbebt7bmb3...@4ax.com>,
without a double take. Fortunately it's never come up in actual
converstation!
Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:09:58 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
>wrote:
>
>>You made me look these up, because I pronounced them similarly. The
>>audio dictionaries pronounce them the way I do. What am I missing
>>
>>Learning words by reading had me pronouncing hogshead as hog-shed.
>>
>>I didn't know that an epitome the way I pronounced (epi-tome) it was
>>the same as an epitome that I heard.
>>
>>I didn't know that a ron-day-vue that newsmen said the Astronauts had
>>was the same as a rendezvous that were in books.
>>
>>Nor that my mom's orderbs were the same as books' "hors d'oeuvre".
>>
>>I even mis-pronounced Vonda MacIntyre.
>
>Or DuQuesne.
>
Oh yeah. I mentaled that for du-ques-ne so long I'll never get it right
>On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:09:58 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
>wrote:
>
>>You made me look these up, because I pronounced them similarly. The
>>audio dictionaries pronounce them the way I do. What am I missing
>>
>>Learning words by reading had me pronouncing hogshead as hog-shed.
>>
>>I didn't know that an epitome the way I pronounced (epi-tome) it was
>>the same as an epitome that I heard.
>>
>>I didn't know that a ron-day-vue that newsmen said the Astronauts had
>>was the same as a rendezvous that were in books.
>>
>>Nor that my mom's orderbs were the same as books' "hors d'oeuvre".
>>
>>I even mis-pronounced Vonda MacIntyre.
>
>Or DuQuesne.
>
without a double take. Fortunately it's never come up in actual
converstation!
Kip Williams
Nov 2, 2011, 12:55:12 PM11/2/11
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> Learning words by reading had me pronouncing hogshead as hog-shed.
I learned words by reading and referring to the dictionary. When I took
> Learning words by reading had me pronouncing hogshead as hog-shed.
linguistics (in Georgia), the teacher pointed me out as having "a phony
accent," which he clarified to "an idiolect."
In the years since then, I've stopped pronouncing the -h- in "where" and
similar words. I've loosened up a little, though I was inwardly
horrified when somebody in Virginia said I had a southern accent. I do not.
Kip W
Kip Williams
Nov 2, 2011, 12:56:41 PM11/2/11
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David DeLaney wrote:
> On 1 Nov 2011 21:44:16 GMT, Ted Nolan<tednolan> <t...@loft.tnolan.com> wrote:
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>
> It's been "wear" for me all along, I fear. "Wier" would be spelled ... "wier".
> Or at worst "weir".
We have always been at ware with Eastasia.
> On 1 Nov 2011 21:44:16 GMT, Ted Nolan<tednolan> <t...@loft.tnolan.com> wrote:
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>
> It's been "wear" for me all along, I fear. "Wier" would be spelled ... "wier".
> Or at worst "weir".
Kip W
Kip Williams
Nov 2, 2011, 12:57:17 PM11/2/11
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David DeLaney wrote:
Kip W
> Jared<jare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I went to the library asking for a book on spread-spectrum communication
>> technology, and they gave me a book on Hedy Lamarr...
>
> ObYF: "Hedley!"
BS.
>> I went to the library asking for a book on spread-spectrum communication
>> technology, and they gave me a book on Hedy Lamarr...
>
> ObYF: "Hedley!"
Kip W
Richard R. Hershberger
Nov 2, 2011, 1:33:53 PM11/2/11
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CHAY-man". It is spelled "Spaceman". The one character who pronounces
it like one would expect is perpetually out of touch with reality.
Wayne Throop
Nov 2, 2011, 1:37:13 PM11/2/11
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: d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney)
: ObYF: "Hedley!"
Don't you mean ObBS?
"Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish, but it expressed
a courage that is little seen in this day and age."
--- Olson Johnson
: ObYF: "Hedley!"
Don't you mean ObBS?
"Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish, but it expressed
a courage that is little seen in this day and age."
--- Olson Johnson
Howard Brazee
Nov 2, 2011, 1:36:09 PM11/2/11
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On 2 Nov 2011 16:53:24 GMT, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
I'm guessing I heard it before I read it.
>>I even mis-pronounced Vonda MacIntyre.
>>
>
>It's not von-da mac-en-tyre?
I pronounced it Mac-In-Tree, with the accent on the 2nd syllable.
wrote:
>>>Hmm. I guess it's just one of those words I never heard pronounced
>>>until after years of reading it. Like hyperbole. That's pronounced
>>>like hyperspace, right :-(
>>
>>You made me look these up, because I pronounced them similarly. The
>>audio dictionaries pronounce them the way I do. What am I missing
>
>Well, as several people have mentioned it's "hyper-space" but
>"hy-PER-bo-le". I always assumed it was "hyper-bowl"
I can see that. No, that was a rarity that I pronounced correctly.
>>>Hmm. I guess it's just one of those words I never heard pronounced
>>>until after years of reading it. Like hyperbole. That's pronounced
>>>like hyperspace, right :-(
>>
>>You made me look these up, because I pronounced them similarly. The
>>audio dictionaries pronounce them the way I do. What am I missing
>
>Well, as several people have mentioned it's "hyper-space" but
>"hy-PER-bo-le". I always assumed it was "hyper-bowl"
I'm guessing I heard it before I read it.
>>I even mis-pronounced Vonda MacIntyre.
>>
>
>It's not von-da mac-en-tyre?
Howard Brazee
Nov 2, 2011, 1:37:55 PM11/2/11
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:55:12 -0400, Kip Williams <mrk...@gmail.com>
Sometimes it's hearing. My mother's middle name is "Dawn", but she
claims I pronounce it "Don". I hear the difference when I say it,
but not when she says it. She hears the difference when she says it,
but not when I say it.
Or Hairy Potter for Americans.
claims I pronounce it "Don". I hear the difference when I say it,
but not when she says it. She hears the difference when she says it,
but not when I say it.
Or Hairy Potter for Americans.
James Silverton
Nov 2, 2011, 1:48:19 PM11/2/11
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On 11/2/2011 11:56 AM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan<tednolan>) wrote in
> news:9hb7hg...@mid.individual.net:
>
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo
>> story to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of
>> Shaggy's fears as a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When
>> I called her on it, she produced a dictionary to back herself
>> up.
>>
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which
>> the dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has
>> been prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger"
>> "ware-jackal" as well?
>
> I suspect a lot of people can't actually tell the difference.
>
And, since they don't exist, I can't see that the pronunciation is very
> t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan<tednolan>) wrote in
> news:9hb7hg...@mid.individual.net:
>
>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo
>> story to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of
>> Shaggy's fears as a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When
>> I called her on it, she produced a dictionary to back herself
>> up.
>>
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which
>> the dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has
>> been prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger"
>> "ware-jackal" as well?
>
> I suspect a lot of people can't actually tell the difference.
>
relevant. However, if I found the need for were-jackal, I would
pronounce the "were" part exactly as in werewolf or in "pier". Being
educated in Scotland my speech is generally rhotic and I do pronounce
the "R".
--
James Silverton, Potomac
I'm *not* not.jim....@verizon.net
Wayne Throop
Nov 2, 2011, 1:48:48 PM11/2/11
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::: I even mis-pronounced Vonda MacIntyre.
:: It's not von-da mac-en-tyre?
: I pronounced it Mac-In-Tree, with the accent on the 2nd syllable.
Hm. How do you do "Teatime"?
"Tell me how do you spell love? M-O-N-E-Y."
--- Fabulous Thunderbirds
:: It's not von-da mac-en-tyre?
: I pronounced it Mac-In-Tree, with the accent on the 2nd syllable.
"Tell me how do you spell love? M-O-N-E-Y."
--- Fabulous Thunderbirds
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
Nov 2, 2011, 1:55:46 PM11/2/11
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James Silverton <not.jim....@verizon.net> wrote in
news:j8rvok$tq7$1...@dont-email.me:
Dude, if you're from Scotland, you arguably do not actually speak
any human languages. :)
news:j8rvok$tq7$1...@dont-email.me:
any human languages. :)
Michael Stemper
Nov 2, 2011, 2:24:31 PM11/2/11
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In article <8b9e9189-2d61-45fb...@l19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, tphile <tph...@cableone.net> writes:
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>On Nov 1, 4:44=A0pm, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote:
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>
>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>> as well?
>Inga: Werewolf!
>Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Werewolf?
>Igor: There.
>Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: What?
Second base!
>Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Werewolf?
>Igor: There.
>Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: What?
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Howard Brazee
Nov 2, 2011, 3:43:54 PM11/2/11
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:48:48 GMT, thr...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop)
wrote:
>::: I even mis-pronounced Vonda MacIntyre.
>
>:: It's not von-da mac-en-tyre?
>
>: I pronounced it Mac-In-Tree, with the accent on the 2nd syllable.
>
>Hm. How do you do "Teatime"?
I don't understand the question.
wrote:
>::: I even mis-pronounced Vonda MacIntyre.
>
>:: It's not von-da mac-en-tyre?
>
>: I pronounced it Mac-In-Tree, with the accent on the 2nd syllable.
>
>Hm. How do you do "Teatime"?
JRStern
Nov 2, 2011, 3:50:42 PM11/2/11
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aaroooooooo
Bill Snyder
Nov 2, 2011, 3:59:09 PM11/2/11
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:43:54 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
wrote:
>On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:48:48 GMT, thr...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop)
>wrote:
>
>>::: I even mis-pronounced Vonda MacIntyre.
>>
>>:: It's not von-da mac-en-tyre?
>>
>>: I pronounced it Mac-In-Tree, with the accent on the 2nd syllable.
>>
>>Hm. How do you do "Teatime"?
>
>I don't understand the question.
Pratchett's _Hogfather_ features a Mr. Teatime. He's very, very
definite that it's pronounced Teh-ah-tim-eh; and believe me, you'd
regret saying it wrong after he's made that clear.
--
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wrote:
>On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:48:48 GMT, thr...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop)
>wrote:
>
>>::: I even mis-pronounced Vonda MacIntyre.
>>
>>:: It's not von-da mac-en-tyre?
>>
>>: I pronounced it Mac-In-Tree, with the accent on the 2nd syllable.
>>
>>Hm. How do you do "Teatime"?
>
>I don't understand the question.
definite that it's pronounced Teh-ah-tim-eh; and believe me, you'd
regret saying it wrong after he's made that clear.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
Wayne Throop
Nov 2, 2011, 4:11:30 PM11/2/11
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::: I pronounced it Mac-In-Tree, with the accent on the 2nd syllable.
:: Hm. How do you do "Teatime"?
: I don't understand the question.
Do you pronounce it something other than "tay-ah-tim-eh"?
"It's pronounced, "boo-KAY"."
--- Hyacinth Bucket
"Tim-eh!" --- Timmy Burch
:: Hm. How do you do "Teatime"?
: I don't understand the question.
"It's pronounced, "boo-KAY"."
--- Hyacinth Bucket
"Tim-eh!" --- Timmy Burch
Ran Garoo
Nov 2, 2011, 5:23:12 PM11/2/11
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On 11/1/2011 23:13, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> In article<j8qj0u$ngi$1...@dont-email.me>, Ran Garoo<rang...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 11/1/2011 20:40, Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>> Where
>>> Wolf
>>>
>>> -- Ken from Chicago
>>
>> Werewolf as in weer-wulf.
>> In 62 years not once, on tv, in movies, radio or in person has anyone
>> used ware wolf.
>>
>> Now, I will have to listen closely to how broadcasters and nearby humans
>> pronounce.
>>
>> Are their any archives online that can be consulted in re spoken movie
>> trailers?
>>
>> I swear Micheal Landon used weer.
>>
>> Must research. Must watch neighbors cloesly this full moon.
>>
>
> Hmm. Well, this one's on my (and your) side:
>
> Twice, once at about 35 seconds in, once about 60 seconds in
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEqlCa-ABCc&feature=related
Thanks for that.
Very clearly as I recalled.
> In article<j8qj0u$ngi$1...@dont-email.me>, Ran Garoo<rang...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 11/1/2011 20:40, Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>> Where
>>> Wolf
>>>
>>> -- Ken from Chicago
>>
>> Werewolf as in weer-wulf.
>> In 62 years not once, on tv, in movies, radio or in person has anyone
>> used ware wolf.
>>
>> Now, I will have to listen closely to how broadcasters and nearby humans
>> pronounce.
>>
>> Are their any archives online that can be consulted in re spoken movie
>> trailers?
>>
>> I swear Micheal Landon used weer.
>>
>> Must research. Must watch neighbors cloesly this full moon.
>>
>
> Hmm. Well, this one's on my (and your) side:
>
> Twice, once at about 35 seconds in, once about 60 seconds in
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEqlCa-ABCc&feature=related
Thanks for that.
Very clearly as I recalled.
Ran Garoo
Nov 2, 2011, 5:26:44 PM11/2/11
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On 11/2/2011 05:17, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
> people with exaggerated stereotypical "Transylvanian" accents, who DID
> sometimes say "weeer-wolf".
>
>
>
It is somewhat likely that once heard a word remains the same
in the ear.
So, how do you pronounce mondegreen?
> On 11/2/11 1:04 AM, Ran Garoo wrote:
>> On 11/1/2011 20:40, Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>> Where
>>> Wolf
>>>
>>> -- Ken from Chicago
>>
>> Werewolf as in weer-wulf.
>> In 62 years not once, on tv, in movies, radio or in person has anyone
>> used ware wolf.
>
> Every movie or TV show *I* ever saw they said "where" wolf. Except for
>> On 11/1/2011 20:40, Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>> Where
>>> Wolf
>>>
>>> -- Ken from Chicago
>>
>> Werewolf as in weer-wulf.
>> In 62 years not once, on tv, in movies, radio or in person has anyone
>> used ware wolf.
>
> people with exaggerated stereotypical "Transylvanian" accents, who DID
> sometimes say "weeer-wolf".
>
>
>
It is somewhat likely that once heard a word remains the same
in the ear.
So, how do you pronounce mondegreen?
Kip Williams
Nov 2, 2011, 6:04:01 PM11/2/11
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Kip W
Not my planet, Monkey-Boy!
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Nov 2, 2011, 8:22:32 PM11/2/11
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Sea Wasp
/^\
;;;
Website: http://www.grandcentralarena.com Blog:
http://seawasp.livejournal.com
David DeLaney
Nov 2, 2011, 11:18:10 PM11/2/11
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BS, YF, SB, HotWPI, TP ... They all blend together after a while, don't they?
Dave "and fragments of Yellow Submarine start appearing too" DeLaney
Kip Williams
Nov 3, 2011, 12:02:15 AM11/3/11
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David DeLaney wrote:
> Kip Williams<mrk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> David DeLaney wrote:
>>> Jared<jare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I went to the library asking for a book on spread-spectrum communication
>>>> technology, and they gave me a book on Hedy Lamarr...
>>>
>>> ObYF: "Hedley!"
>>
>> BS.
>
> The heck you say!
>
> BS, YF, SB, HotWPI, TP ... They all blend together after a while, don't they?
Some of them do. A lot of my viewing of Brooks movies turned out in
> Kip Williams<mrk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> David DeLaney wrote:
>>> Jared<jare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I went to the library asking for a book on spread-spectrum communication
>>>> technology, and they gave me a book on Hedy Lamarr...
>>>
>>> ObYF: "Hedley!"
>>
>> BS.
>
> The heck you say!
>
> BS, YF, SB, HotWPI, TP ... They all blend together after a while, don't they?
retrospect to be a lot of high expectations (good name for a Hitchcock
spoof! ... nah.) and I end up not re-watching the movies. Young
Frankenstein, though, holds up really well, maybe because it was
Wilder's movie as much as it was Brooks's. Silent Movie is still kind of
fun, though a little Dom DeLuise goes a long way.
Also, they lose something outside of a theater.
Kip W
Joy Beeson
Nov 3, 2011, 1:06:41 AM11/3/11
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:09:58 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
wrote:
> Nor that my mom's orderbs were the same as books' "hors d'oeuvre".
My mom called them "horse divorces".
--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/
The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.
wrote:
> Nor that my mom's orderbs were the same as books' "hors d'oeuvre".
--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/
The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.
Gene Wirchenko
Nov 3, 2011, 3:06:15 AM11/3/11
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 08:35:15 -0700, lal_truckee
<lal_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 11/1/11 5:10 PM, Kurt Busiek wrote:
>>
>> What, you mean it's not "High-PER-Spah-See"?
>
>I had a girlfriend who was HIGH-per-space-eee, but she was too warped to
>stay with so we split up.
Rapidly I assume.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
<lal_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 11/1/11 5:10 PM, Kurt Busiek wrote:
>>
>> What, you mean it's not "High-PER-Spah-See"?
>
>stay with so we split up.
Rapidly I assume.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
Gene Wirchenko
Nov 3, 2011, 3:10:35 AM11/3/11
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:37:55 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
wrote:
[snip]
>Sometimes it's hearing. My mother's middle name is "Dawn", but she
>claims I pronounce it "Don". I hear the difference when I say it,
>but not when she says it. She hears the difference when she says it,
>but not when I say it.
I say them both the same way.
[snip]
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
wrote:
[snip]
>Sometimes it's hearing. My mother's middle name is "Dawn", but she
>claims I pronounce it "Don". I hear the difference when I say it,
>but not when she says it. She hears the difference when she says it,
>but not when I say it.
[snip]
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
Gene Wirchenko
Nov 3, 2011, 12:26:17 PM11/3/11
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 23:51:17 -0400, Paul Arthur
<junk+...@flowerysong.com> wrote:
>On 2011-11-02, Ken from Chicago <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Where
>> Wolf
>
>There wolf. There castle.
Here wolf. There castle. Here trouble.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
<junk+...@flowerysong.com> wrote:
>On 2011-11-02, Ken from Chicago <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Where
>> Wolf
>
>There wolf. There castle.
Here wolf. There castle. Here trouble.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
Robert Bannister
Nov 3, 2011, 6:38:18 PM11/3/11
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On 2/11/11 6:34 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article<9hb8g6...@mid.individual.net>,
> Ted Nolan<tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
>> In article<j8pppl$h3l$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> Lawrence Watt-Evans<l...@sff.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> While "were" is indeed cognate to the Latin "vir," the vowel sound
>>> shifted drastically a few centuries ago, just like most other English
>>> words, and "ware" is the common pronunciation.
> accent changes. It's HY-per-space but hy-PER-bo-le.
>
Still: Superbowl, Hyperbowl - there's a pattern.
--
Robert Bannister
> In article<9hb8g6...@mid.individual.net>,
> Ted Nolan<tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
>> In article<j8pppl$h3l$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> Lawrence Watt-Evans<l...@sff.net> wrote:
>>> On 2011-11-01 17:44:16 -0400, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan said:
>>>
>>>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>>>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>>>> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she
>>> produced
>>>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>>>>
>>>
>>>> I was surprised recently when my sister was reading a Scooby-Doo story
>>>> to my neice and consistently pronounced the object of Shaggy's fears as
>>>> a "warewolf" as in "wash-and-wear-wolf". When I called her on it, she
>>> produced
>>>> a dictionary to back herself up.
>>>>
>>>> I had always said "wierwolf" as in rhymes with "pier-wolf" which the
>>>> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>>>
>>>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>>>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>>>> as well?
>>>
>>> Yes, it's "ware-tiger," etc. I don't know how you came to think otherwise.
>>>> dictionary called acceptable, but not as common.
>>>>
>>>> Am I just being influenced by all the other creatures "were" has been
>>>> prefixed onto lately, or do *you* call those "ware-tiger" "ware-jackal"
>>>> as well?
>>>
>>>
>>> While "were" is indeed cognate to the Latin "vir," the vowel sound
>>> shifted drastically a few centuries ago, just like most other English
>>> words, and "ware" is the common pronunciation.
>>>
>>
>> Hmm. I guess it's just one of those words I never heard pronounced
>> until after years of reading it. Like hyperbole. That's pronounced
>> like hyperspace, right :-(
>
> Yes, except that having four syllables instead of three, its
>>
>> Hmm. I guess it's just one of those words I never heard pronounced
>> until after years of reading it. Like hyperbole. That's pronounced
>> like hyperspace, right :-(
>
> accent changes. It's HY-per-space but hy-PER-bo-le.
>
Still: Superbowl, Hyperbowl - there's a pattern.
--
Robert Bannister
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