Florida Vampire Cult Leader Was Introduced To The Occult "Dungeons & Dragons" Game As A Child
Sound of Trumpet
Florida v. Rod Ferrell
"The Vampire Cult Slaying Case"
Rod Ferrell: The leader of the alleged vampire cult who pled guilty to
killing his ex-girlfriend's parents.
On February 12, 1998, seventeen-year-old Rod Ferrell pled guilty to
killing a Eustis, Florida couple with a crowbar. The leader of a
teenage vampire cult, Ferrell was allegedly helped in the double
slaying by his then-girlfriend, Charity Lynn Keesee, and two other
members of the cult.
The victims, Richard Wendorf and Naoma Queen, were the parents of
Heather Wendorf, a friend of Ferrell's, and were beaten to death in
their home on November 25, 1996.
The road to the murders began some three days earlier, on November 22.
Late that night or early in the morning of the 23rd, Ferrell -- along
with Keesee and the two cult members, Howard Scott Anderson and Dana
Cooper -- left his hometown of Murray, Kentucky to drive down to
Eustis.
After the four arrived in Eustis, Ferrell, who had lived there for
several years before moving back to Murray to live with his mother,
tracked down Wendorf and told another acquaintance, Audrey Presson,
that he was in town for unfinished business.
A Disturbing Upbringing
When Ferrell was born on March 28, 1980, his mother, Sondra Gibson was
only 17 years old, and his father, Rick Ferrell, was also a teen. The
two were married nine days after baby Rod was born, but split up weeks
afterwards.
Sondra Gibson: The defendant's mother who allegedly encouraged his
fascination with the occult.
Rick Ferrell filed for a divorce and joined the military, while Sondra
kept the child. Her parents also looked after Rod, who claimed Sondra's
father -- his grandfather -- raped him when he was 5.
Rod also claimed that as a young child, he was exposed to occult
rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
Dragons" role-playing game.
Sondra Gibson eventually remarried and moved frequently with Rod before
leaving him in Murray, Kentucky and moving with her new husband to
Michigan. He allegedly told Rod that they were never coming back, and
Gibson apparently became so upset that she divorced him and moved back
to Murray to be with Rod. (Her second husband also allegedly engaged in
satanic rituals.)
Around this time, Rod began to undergo some sort of transformation. He
walked in cemeteries at night, cut himself so others could drink his
blood, and told people he was a 500-year-old vampire named "Vesago."
His school work slipped and he began flagrantly disobeying his schools'
policies, skipping class, smoking on campus and generally defying
teachers and school officials. He also indulged in playing "Vampire:
The Masquerade," a realistic role-playing game in which players act out
vampiric scenarios in real-time.
His mother allowed him to stay out all night, use drugs, and skip
school, and he frequently spent time with a young man named Stephen
Murray, who brought the teenage Ferrell into the vampire world and
"crossed him over," turning him into a presumptive vampire and giving
him his name.
By the spring of 1996, Rod was also talking long-distance to Heather
Wendorf, who apparently told Rod that her parents were hurting her and
that she wanted him to come get her, but that he would have to kill
them to do so.
In September 1996, Murphy attacked Ferrell, who refused treatment when
taken to a local hospital. Murphy was convicted for the attack. Shortly
after, Sondra Gibson was charged with soliciting a minor -- Murphy's
14-year-old brother -- whom Gibson wrote love letters, imploring him to
"cross her over" and have her as his vampire bride.
"Vesago" Attacks
On November 25, the day of the murders, Ferrell and his companions were
stopped by law enforcement officers and questioned because their
vehicle had a flat tire. The flat caused Ferrell to change his plans.
He told Wendorf and another friend, Jeanine LeClaire, about this and
allegedly discussed with the group a plan to kill Wendorf's parents and
take their Ford Explorer to use as a getaway vehicle.
Richard Wendorf: was beaten to death by Ferrell and his cult in
November 1996.
Ferrell and friends arrived near the Wendorf home and met Heather
Wendorf down the road from her house. He sent the three young women --
Heather Wendorf, Cooper and Keesee -- to visit Heather's boyfriend and
pick up LeClaire. Ferrell and Anderson stayed behind, armed with clubs.
The two young men searched the outside of the Wendorf home, looking for
some way to get inside. They entered through an unlocked door to the
garage and searched the garage for better weapons. Ferrell finally
settled on a crowbar.
Ferrell and Anderson then went inside the house, yanked one phone from
the wall, and came upon 49-year-old Richard Wendorf, asleep on the
couch. Ferrell beat him several times with the crowbar, fracturing his
skull and giving him numerous chest wounds, including fractured ribs.
As Richard Wendorf lay dying, Naoma Queen left a bathroom in the house
and entered the kitchen, where she found Ferrell. Ferrell had blood on
his clothes and the crowbar in his hands. Queen threw hot coffee on him
and fought him, but Ferrell beat her down to the floor and bashed her
head with the crowbar several times.
Naoma Queen: Ferrell's other victim.
With Heather's parents dead, the two young men searched the house. They
took a Discover card from Richard Wendorf's pocket and the keys to the
Explorer, which they drove off in.
They soon met the girls, who were returning to the area near the
Wendorf home in the Buick Skyhawk they had originally used to drive
down from Kentucky. The group then used both vehicles to drive to
nearby Sanford, where they dumped the Buick. They switched the license
plates, so that the Explorer had the Buick's plates (and the Buick, now
left behind, had the plates of the stolen Explorer).
The group of five -- Ferrell, Anderson, Keesee, Cooper and Heather
Wendorf -- drove west along Interstate 10 through Tallahassee and
towards New Orleans, presumably to meet famed vampire writer Anne Rice.
They stopped in Crestview, Florida and bought gas and a knife using
Richard Wendorf's stolen Discover card.
One of the five made a call from Baton Rouge to Charity Keesee's
family, and soon after, the five were caught. Ferrell was videotaped
making two slightly different confessions, and four of the suspects --
the two guys, Dana Cooper and Heather Wendorf -- were charged with
murder. Keesee was charged with being an accessory after the fact. A
grand jury indicted Ferrell and Anderson on December 17, 1996 but
refused to indict Heather Wendorf.
The Trial and Sentencing
The trial against Ferrell began on February 12, 1998. As the state
offered its opening arguments, Ferrell pled guilty to the four charges
against him: armed burglary, armed robbery, and two counts of
first-degree murder. The jury empanelled for his trial was then given
the task of determining if Ferrell should be given life in prison or
death in Florida's electric chair.
Ferrell's lawyers argued that his young age should be a mitigating
factor in his sentence, as well as his emotional age, which a
psychiatrist placed at three years of age and his extreme emotional and
mental disturbance.
On February 23, the jury voted unanimously to give Ferrell the death
sentence. After additional testimony from both sides, Judge Jerry
Lockett accepted the jury recommendation four days later and sentenced
Ferrell to the electric chair. He is now the youngest person in Florida
to sit on death row.
After the sentencing, Judge Lockett also urged prosecutors to charge
Heather Wendorf, pointing to unanswered questions about her parents'
death and saying, "There is genuine evil in this world." Ferrell's
mother, Sondra Gibson, said she felt her son did not deserve the death
penalty, but endorsed the judge's suggestion about Wendorf.
"There's one person walking around who's just as guilty as he is," she
said.
Nevermore
Trumpet wrote:
> From: "Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of...@lycos.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.society.liberalism,alt.religion.wicca,rec.
> games.frp.dnd,rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Florida Vampire Cult Leader
> Was Introduced To The Occult "Dungeons & Dragons" Game As A Child Date:
> 1 Jul 2006 08:38:39 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com
And this explains why the murders in Florida were eventually committed
in the midst of an elemental swarm spell by a party of dwarves, half-
orcs and beholders equipped with dire-flails and +3 vorpal swords of
sharpness.
Nevermore
raven1
<sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote:
"Dungeons & Dragons" isn't even mentioned here. Did you even bother to
read this before you posted it?
--
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Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
Mike Schilling
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote in message >
> Rod also claimed that as a young child, he was exposed to occult
> rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
> Dragons" role-playing game.
If only he'd never played D&D he'd have been fine.
leo
Sound of Trumpet ha escrito:
Well, these games can be very dangerous, but I am now thinking about
Jim Jones, the firebrand pracher that forced nearly a thousand people,
including wemen and children to drunk a refreshment with cyanide. This
preacher, Jim Jones, was influenced by the Bible teachings. This can
show yopu how dangerous is to read the Bible. It should have prohibited
for the good of humanity.
Leopoldo
Mark K. Bilbo
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> On 1 Jul 2006 08:38:39 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
> <sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
> "Dungeons & Dragons" isn't even mentioned here. Did you even bother to
> read this before you posted it?
Read?
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Werebat
Hm. Single mothers...
Werebat
leo wrote:
Religion in general is a dangerous thing.
But then again it can really give your cities a shot in the arm in the
early game, especially if you aren't a Creative leader. Oh, and the
boost to your empire's income isn't anything to sneeze at either,
especially if you build the Spiral Minaret!
- Ron ^*^
GoDrex
"raven1" <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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> On 1 Jul 2006 08:38:39 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
> <sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
> "Dungeons & Dragons" isn't even mentioned here. Did you even bother to
> read this before you posted it?
>
>
> >rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
> >Dragons" role-playing game.
huh?
hate to do anything good for Sound Of Butt-Trumpet
Denis Loubet
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.courttv.com/archive/verdicts/vampire.html
>
Yeah, and all the pedophile priests were known to have bibles in their
possession!
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David Johnston
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>On 1 Jul 2006 08:38:39 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
><sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
>"Dungeons & Dragons" isn't even mentioned here. Did you even bother to
>read this before you posted it?
It's mentioned. Of course it's also mentioned that he claims to have
watched human sacrifices as a child.
julian814
Oh, but it's because of those role playing games that he became evil,
so we should ban them all. We can't do anything about sacrifices or
satanic rituals, but we can get rid of those nasty games. ;-p
Ralph Glatt
Member, OId Farts Club
grant kinsley
<sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote:
>http://www.courttv.com/archive/verdicts/vampire.html
>
>
>
>Florida v. Rod Ferrell
>
>"The Vampire Cult Slaying Case"
>
>
>
>Rod Ferrell: The leader of the alleged vampire cult who pled guilty to
>killing his ex-girlfriend's parents.
>
>
<much snippage>
But the article didn't mention that he breathes 80% Nitrogen, eats
protein and drinks water.
I have it on good authority that every murderer in the world does
those three things, when is somebody going to blame the real culprits.
(needless to say now, but correlation doesn't equal causation)
GK
Splicer
> Rod Ferrell: The leader of the alleged vampire cult who pled guilty to
> killing his ex-girlfriend's parents.
>
He apparently also breathed air, drank water and ate a variety of foods.
Each and every one of those things an obvious cause of his mental state.
Josh Miles
> On 1 Jul 2006 08:38:39 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
> <sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
> "Dungeons & Dragons" isn't even mentioned here. Did you even bother to
> read this before you posted it?
Yes it is:
leo
Werebat ha escrito:
I think these videogames are ment to stop the development of our kids.
Brain can develope if there is variety in their experience. But with a
lot of this game playing, the kids stop developing their brains, the
same way if he were brain washed with a lot of Bible teaching. You can
see this fenomenom at work among Islamic countries. They teach so much
religion at school that they are unable to learn scientific matters in
a relative high degree. That is why they are so retarded in modern
developement.
The same thing happens to the states in the USA who are too much
controled by Xian fundies.
Leopoldo
Leopoldo
Decaying Atheist
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I'm a Great Library man myself.
DA
Douglas Berry
<sound_of...@lycos.com> posting the following on 1 Jul 2006
08:38:39 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
>When Ferrell was born on March 28, 1980, his mother, Sondra Gibson was
>only 17 years old, and his father, Rick Ferrell, was also a teen. The
>two were married nine days after baby Rod was born, but split up weeks
>afterwards.
So, born to two stupid kids, one of whoim split right after he was
born.
>Sondra Gibson: The defendant's mother who allegedly encouraged his
>fascination with the occult.
>
>Rick Ferrell filed for a divorce and joined the military, while Sondra
>kept the child. Her parents also looked after Rod, who claimed Sondra's
>father -- his grandfather -- raped him when he was 5.
Molested.
>Rod also claimed that as a young child, he was exposed to occult
>rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
>Dragons" role-playing game.
Millions have played RPGs. And one decade old case is all you can
find?
>Sondra Gibson eventually remarried and moved frequently with Rod before
>leaving him in Murray, Kentucky and moving with her new husband to
>Michigan. He allegedly told Rod that they were never coming back, and
>Gibson apparently became so upset that she divorced him and moved back
>to Murray to be with Rod. (Her second husband also allegedly engaged in
>satanic rituals.)
"Allegedly." Of course, being dumoed by your parents after being
dragged all over the place dies wonderful things to a child.
>Around this time, Rod began to undergo some sort of transformation. He
>walked in cemeteries at night, cut himself so others could drink his
>blood, and told people he was a 500-year-old vampire named "Vesago."
>His school work slipped and he began flagrantly disobeying his schools'
>policies, skipping class, smoking on campus and generally defying
>teachers and school officials.
Gee, the transformation has a name: puberty. He was a screwed up kid
who suddenly got big enough to rebel, and he did. considering the
level of self-control shown by his mother, I'm not surprised he blew
up.
>He also indulged in playing "Vampire:
>The Masquerade," a realistic role-playing game in which players act out
>vampiric scenarios in real-time.
Wrong! V:tM is a table-top RPG. There is a LARP (Live Action RPG)
but it was marketed under a different name.
>His mother allowed him to stay out all night, use drugs, and skip
>school, and he frequently spent time with a young man named Stephen
>Murray, who brought the teenage Ferrell into the vampire world and
>"crossed him over," turning him into a presumptive vampire and giving
>him his name.
Great parenting there.
>By the spring of 1996, Rod was also talking long-distance to Heather
>Wendorf, who apparently told Rod that her parents were hurting her and
>that she wanted him to come get her, but that he would have to kill
>them to do so.
I'm still waiting for where D&D caused any of this.
>In September 1996, Murphy attacked Ferrell, who refused treatment when
>taken to a local hospital. Murphy was convicted for the attack. Shortly
>after, Sondra Gibson was charged with soliciting a minor -- Murphy's
>14-year-old brother -- whom Gibson wrote love letters, imploring him to
>"cross her over" and have her as his vampire bride.
Again, this has what to do with D&D? Or role-playing in general?
--
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the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing." - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
Conspiracy of Doves
<snip>
>
> Rod also claimed that as a young child, he was exposed to occult
> rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
> Dragons" role-playing game.
>
<snip>
And naturally it had to have been the Dungeons & Dragons that turned
him into what he is today, and not the occult rituals and human
sacrifices. Because, as we all know, ANYONE who is exposed to D&D will
automatically become a devil-worshipping murderer. Isn't that that
right, SoT?
Malachias Invictus
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.courttv.com/archive/verdicts/vampire.html
I think all of you are missing the point. D&D didn't *cause* this kid to
become evil, it is just that only evil people, cultists, etc. would be
interested in D&D.
--
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It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishment the scroll,
I am the Master of my fate:
I am the Captain of my soul.
from _Invictus_, by William Ernest Henley
Tim McGaughy
> On 1 Jul 2006 08:38:39 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
> <sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
> "Dungeons & Dragons" isn't even mentioned here. Did you even bother to
> read this before you posted it?
What's this?
Doc Smartass
news:1151768319.5...@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:
> Subject: Florida Vampire Cult Leader Was Introduced To The Occult
> "Dungeons & Dragons" Game As A Child
Good thing I only ever played female Elves; we just prance around the
woods, sing, and do our nails when we're not zapping shit or hitting stupid
shithead trolls with sticks.
--
Doc Galadriel, waiting for her nails to dry.
Ophidian
> On 1 Jul 2006 08:38:39 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
> <sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
> "Dungeons & Dragons" isn't even mentioned here. Did you even bother to
> read this before you posted it?
Did you?
--
Perhaps the greatest evil of the American people is apathy!
But who cares?
Ophidian
>
> Well, these games can be very dangerous,
(when thrown at high velocity...)
> but I am now thinking about
> Jim Jones, the firebrand pracher that forced nearly a thousand people,
> including wemen and children to drunk a refreshment with cyanide. This
> preacher, Jim Jones, was influenced by the Bible teachings. This can
> show yopu how dangerous is to read the Bible. It should have prohibited
> for the good of humanity.
Heck, Jim was a blib.
That books has influenced everything from the the Crusades to purges
to the decline of the Amerind to witch hunts to the Holocaust!
Ophidian
>
> I think these videogames are ment to stop the development of our kids.
> Brain can develope if there is variety in their experience.
There is a lot of variety in video games!
They're almost like books!
> You can
> see this fenomenom at work among Islamic countries.
I've never seen such a thing.
Perhaps I need to travel more...
> They teach so much
> religion at school that they are unable to learn scientific matters in
> a relative high degree.
Hm, then why were so many of college professors Arabic?
Ophidian
>
> I'm a Great Library man myself.
Pyramids.
Gotta go Pyramids.
Ophidian
> Because, as we all know, ANYONE who is exposed to D&D will
> automatically become a devil-worshipping murderer. Isn't that that
> right, SoT?
Well, except for the "murderer" part.
So long as they are vegetarians.
raven1
wrote:
My bad, everyone, I somehow missed that particular line.
Marshall
"Ophidian" <oNpEhMi...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> leo wrote:
>
> >
>> I think these videogames are ment to stop the development of our kids.
>> Brain can develope if there is variety in their experience.
>
> There is a lot of variety in video games!
> They're almost like books!
>
>> You can
>> see this fenomenom at work among Islamic countries.
>
> I've never seen such a thing.
> Perhaps I need to travel more...
>
>> They teach so much
>> religion at school that they are unable to learn scientific matters in
>> a relative high degree.
>
> Hm, then why were so many of college professors Arabic?
>
>
>
They arent Arabic, they're Indian...
...then theres that old Truism "Those that cant do, teach"
Doc Smartass
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> On Sat, 01 Jul 2006 16:13:25 -0500, Tim McGaughy <tee...@ispwest.com>
> wrote:
>
>>raven1 wrote:
>>> On 1 Jul 2006 08:38:39 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
>>> <sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Dungeons & Dragons" isn't even mentioned here. Did you even bother
to
>>> read this before you posted it?
>>
>>What's this?
>>
>>>>Rod also claimed that as a young child, he was exposed to occult
>>>>rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
>>>>Dragons" role-playing game.
>
> My bad, everyone, I somehow missed that particular line.
Right, off to the Comfy Chair for you! *nods to henchpersons*
--
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"I am George W. Fudd, Miwwionaire. I own a mansion, a yacht, and your
phone number."
Nevermore
wrote:
>
> "Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote in message
> news:1151768319.5...@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> http://www.courttv.com/archive/verdicts/vampire.html
>
> I think all of you are missing the point. D&D didn't *cause* this kid
> to become evil, it is just that only evil people, cultists, etc.
> would be interested in D&D.
>
Nevermore
Ophidian
> "Ophidian" <oNpEhMi...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:0MCpg.5530$PO.3980@dukeread03...
>
>>Hm, then why were so many of college professors Arabic?
>
> They arent Arabic, they're Indian...
No, not _those_ ones!
The _other_ ones!
> ...then theres that old Truism "Those that cant do, teach"
"Those who can't teach, teach gym."
Bill Wayne
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
> <snip evidence he has an abusive childhood>
> Rod also claimed that as a young child, he was exposed to occult
> rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
> Dragons" role-playing game.
>
> <snip more evidence of problems>
>
> He also indulged in playing "Vampire:
> The Masquerade," a realistic role-playing game in which players act out
> vampiric scenarios in real-time.
>
> <snip evidence he was probably crazy>
OMG RPGs ARE TEH EVIL!!!!!1111oneeleven
Bill
Werebat
Ophidian wrote:
> Marshall wrote:
>
>> "Ophidian" <oNpEhMi...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:0MCpg.5530$PO.3980@dukeread03...
>>
>>> Hm, then why were so many of college professors Arabic?
>>
>>
>> They arent Arabic, they're Indian...
>
>
> No, not _those_ ones!
> The _other_ ones!
>
>> ...then theres that old Truism "Those that cant do, teach"
>
>
> "Those who can't teach, teach gym."
"Those who can't even teach gym, administrate."
- Ron ^*^
Werebat
Ophidian wrote:
> Decaying Atheist wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm a Great Library man myself.
>
>
> Pyramids.
> Gotta go Pyramids.
Why? Is Representation really that big a deal?
I pretty much always go for Hinduism, Judaism, and then grab
Christianity with the Oracle. Then it's a sprint for the Parthenon, and
three Great Priests later I'm rolling in dough from the capitol
buildings of my three religions.
But, that's just me.
- Ron ^*^
Tim McGaughy
> On Sat, 01 Jul 2006 16:13:25 -0500, Tim McGaughy <tee...@ispwest.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>raven1 wrote:
>>
>>>On 1 Jul 2006 08:38:39 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
>>><sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Dungeons & Dragons" isn't even mentioned here. Did you even bother to
>>>read this before you posted it?
>>
>>What's this?
>>
>>
>>>>Rod also claimed that as a young child, he was exposed to occult
>>>>rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
>>>>Dragons" role-playing game.
>
>
> My bad, everyone, I somehow missed that particular line.
S'okay, I think yer point still stands, anyway. The article itself
doesn't try to make any connection between the game and the actions of
the criminals in question. The thread title is very misleading.
Jordan
raven1 wrote:
> On 1 Jul 2006 08:38:39 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
> <sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
> "Dungeons & Dragons" isn't even mentioned here. Did you even bother to
> read this before you posted it?
Yes it is! It's mentioned right here ...
">Rod also claimed that as a young child, he was exposed to occult
>rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
>Dragons" role-playing game. "
Now, mind you, any _sane_ person would think that the "occult rituals"
and ESPECIALLY the "human sacrifices" were a bit more relevant to the
possible development of future homicidal mania than playing _Dungeons &
Dragons_. But then maybe "Sound of Trumpet" believes, along with
famous lunatic Jack Chick, that when you advance your character enough,
you _personally_ get REAL magical abilities ... ?
Sincerely Yours,
Jordan
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>
> raven1 wrote:
>> On 1 Jul 2006 08:38:39 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
>> <sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>
>> "Dungeons & Dragons" isn't even mentioned here. Did you even bother to
>> read this before you posted it?
>
> Yes it is! It's mentioned right here ...
>
> ">Rod also claimed that as a young child, he was exposed to occult
>>rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
>>Dragons" role-playing game. "
>
> Now, mind you, any _sane_ person would think that the "occult rituals"
> and ESPECIALLY the "human sacrifices" were a bit more relevant to the
> possible development of future homicidal mania than playing _Dungeons &
> Dragons_.
Ya think?
(I suspect that his belief that he'd been raped by his grandfather might
have a part to play too.)
Ophidian
>
> Ophidian wrote:
>
>> Decaying Atheist wrote:
>>
>>> I'm a Great Library man myself.
>>
>> Pyramids.
>> Gotta go Pyramids.
>
> Why? Is Representation really that big a deal?
I'm old school.
Growth is good.
The only religion we get is Monotheism. ;(
leo
Ophidian ha escrito:
Well, Arabic countries had showed they are retarded in technological
and science matters. You can look around to see it. Perhaps you can
point that some countries have so much money that they could say, "let
the fucking Xians to keep inventing". A phrase like this was said by a
Spanish philosopher in the first years of XX Century. Someone had
pointed him the pityful state of our tecnological and scientific
levels, "let them invent" was his answer to this problem.
Leopoldo
Werebat
Ophidian wrote:
> Werebat wrote:
>
>>
>> Ophidian wrote:
>>
>>> Decaying Atheist wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm a Great Library man myself.
>>>
>>>
>>> Pyramids.
>>> Gotta go Pyramids.
>>
>>
>> Why? Is Representation really that big a deal?
>
>
> I'm old school.
> Growth is good.
> The only religion we get is Monotheism. ;(
Yeah, I always thought it was funny when the Indians got Monotheism...
IV is great, you should give it a whirl.
Pyramids aren't about growth anymore, they let you pick any government
you want. In IV early game (when you build them), this invariably means
you pick Representation, which is a fair boost to science in the right
situation but that's about it.
- Ron ^*^
Chris Hayes
leo wrote:
> I think these videogames are ment to stop the development of our kids.
Not really. You use far more of your brain to play videogames than to
simply watch television. There are all kinds of videogames out there,
from strategy to puzzle games, which require a lot of thought to get
good at them.
Malachias Invictus
"Jordan" <JSBass...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> famous lunatic Jack Chick, that when you advance your character enough,
> you _personally_ get REAL magical abilities ... ?
Do you mean to say you didn't?
Malachias Invictus
"Chris Hayes" <hay...@fadmail.com> wrote in message
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The main trick is to change games often ;-)
Jani
"Chris Hayes" <hay...@fadmail.com> wrote in message
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>
Judging by some of the exchanges on games *forums*, that's another nice idea
that didn't pan out in practice :(
Jani
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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> Rod also claimed that as a young child, he was exposed to occult
> rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
> Dragons" role-playing game.
Damn! They played for keeps
"Sorry, Night Raven, you needed to roll an 8 or better to defeat the Evil
Demon of Grag. I am afraid we have to cut your heart out now."
--
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To give Tales his due, he is a talented and able witch. However he is a
negative energy and will show you the "highlights" of a negatively applied
system.
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"Denis Loubet" <dlo...@io.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote in message
> news:1151768319.5...@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>
> Yeah, and all the pedophile priests were known to have bibles in their
> possession!
You ever see those news exposes where they take a blacklight into a motel
room and show you the jizz stains on the phone, TV remote, ceiling and door
knobs? Gods only know what kind of weird shit goes on in motel rooms. And
what do you find in EVERY one of them? That's right, a buybull
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"grant kinsley" <sawb...@uniserve.com> wrote in message
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> On 1 Jul 2006 08:38:39 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
> <sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
>>http://www.courttv.com/archive/verdicts/vampire.html
>>
>>
>>
>>Florida v. Rod Ferrell
>>
>>"The Vampire Cult Slaying Case"
>>
>>
>>
>>Rod Ferrell: The leader of the alleged vampire cult who pled guilty to
>>killing his ex-girlfriend's parents.
>>
>>
> <much snippage>
>
> But the article didn't mention that he breathes 80% Nitrogen, eats
> protein and drinks water.
>
> I have it on good authority that every murderer in the world does
> those three things, when is somebody going to blame the real culprits.
>
> (needless to say now, but correlation doesn't equal causation)
I remember when Columbine first hit the news. Before they even knew the
perps names they were saying they were members of a "Satanic cult." They
stopped saying it but never retracted it. The same thing happened when a kid
shot up a high school prayer group- until they found out he was a minister's
son
If "Satanic cults" did half the shit they get credit for, they would make
the Nazis look like a Girl Scout troop
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"leo" <leopoldo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I think these videogames are ment to stop the development of our kids.
> Brain can develope if there is variety in their experience. But with a
> lot of this game playing, the kids stop developing their brains, the
> same way if he were brain washed with a lot of Bible teaching. You can
> see this fenomenom at work among Islamic countries.
What video game do they play in Islamic countries- Donkey Kamel?
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"Marshall" <dest...@BRAKESiquest.net> wrote in message
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Yeah but what about those who can't teach?
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"Those who can't administrate are elected President"
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Jani is still trying to get the hang of "Chutes and Ladders"
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"Conspiracy of Doves" <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Sound of Trumpet wrote:
>> http://www.courttv.com/archive/verdicts/vampire.html
>>
>
> <snip>
>
>>
>> Rod also claimed that as a young child, he was exposed to occult
>> rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
>> Dragons" role-playing game.
>>
>
>
> And naturally it had to have been the Dungeons & Dragons that turned
> him into what he is today, and not the occult rituals and human
> sacrifices. Because, as we all know, ANYONE who is exposed to D&D will
> automatically become a devil-worshipping murderer. Isn't that that
> right, SoT?
>
So, if I play Monopoly, will I become Donald Trump?
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"Woof" <jamesd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>I think we all know it never would have happened if they never played D&D
They probably would have lost their souls to a Ouija Board
blu
> http://www.courttv.com/archive/verdicts/vampire.html
>
>
>
> Florida v. Rod Ferrell
He killed his girlfriend's parents then they went on a cross country joy
ride. Nothing to do with D&D, for fux sake. He was/is a nutcase. The term
"vampire" was used as a media attention grabber.
--
love
blu*goddess.of.groundhogs*juju
The gods too are fond of a joke.
Aristotle
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.
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Music in the soul can be heard by the universe.
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Jon Schild
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
> http://www.courttv.com/archive/verdicts/vampire.html
>
>
>
> Florida v. Rod Ferrell
>
> "The Vampire Cult Slaying Case"
>
>
>
> Rod Ferrell: The leader of the alleged vampire cult who pled guilty to
> killing his ex-girlfriend's parents.
>
>
>
> On February 12, 1998, seventeen-year-old Rod Ferrell pled guilty to
> killing a Eustis, Florida couple with a crowbar. The leader of a
> teenage vampire cult, Ferrell was allegedly helped in the double
> slaying by his then-girlfriend, Charity Lynn Keesee, and two other
> members of the cult.
>
> The victims, Richard Wendorf and Naoma Queen, were the parents of
> Heather Wendorf, a friend of Ferrell's, and were beaten to death in
> their home on November 25, 1996.
>
> The road to the murders began some three days earlier, on November 22.
> Late that night or early in the morning of the 23rd, Ferrell -- along
> with Keesee and the two cult members, Howard Scott Anderson and Dana
> Cooper -- left his hometown of Murray, Kentucky to drive down to
> Eustis.
>
> After the four arrived in Eustis, Ferrell, who had lived there for
> several years before moving back to Murray to live with his mother,
> tracked down Wendorf and told another acquaintance, Audrey Presson,
> that he was in town for unfinished business.
>
> A Disturbing Upbringing
>
> When Ferrell was born on March 28, 1980, his mother, Sondra Gibson was
> only 17 years old, and his father, Rick Ferrell, was also a teen. The
> two were married nine days after baby Rod was born, but split up weeks
> afterwards.
> Sondra Gibson: The defendant's mother who allegedly encouraged his
> fascination with the occult.
>
> Rick Ferrell filed for a divorce and joined the military, while Sondra
> kept the child. Her parents also looked after Rod, who claimed Sondra's
> father -- his grandfather -- raped him when he was 5.
>
> Rod also claimed that as a young child, he was exposed to occult
> rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
> Dragons" role-playing game.
>
> Sondra Gibson eventually remarried and moved frequently with Rod before
> leaving him in Murray, Kentucky and moving with her new husband to
> Michigan. He allegedly told Rod that they were never coming back, and
> Gibson apparently became so upset that she divorced him and moved back
> to Murray to be with Rod. (Her second husband also allegedly engaged in
> satanic rituals.)
>
> Around this time, Rod began to undergo some sort of transformation. He
> walked in cemeteries at night, cut himself so others could drink his
> blood, and told people he was a 500-year-old vampire named "Vesago."
> His school work slipped and he began flagrantly disobeying his schools'
> policies, skipping class, smoking on campus and generally defying
> teachers and school officials. He also indulged in playing "Vampire:
> The Masquerade," a realistic role-playing game in which players act out
> vampiric scenarios in real-time.
>
> His mother allowed him to stay out all night, use drugs, and skip
> school, and he frequently spent time with a young man named Stephen
> Murray, who brought the teenage Ferrell into the vampire world and
> "crossed him over," turning him into a presumptive vampire and giving
> him his name.
>
> By the spring of 1996, Rod was also talking long-distance to Heather
> Wendorf, who apparently told Rod that her parents were hurting her and
> that she wanted him to come get her, but that he would have to kill
> them to do so.
>
> In September 1996, Murphy attacked Ferrell, who refused treatment when
> taken to a local hospital. Murphy was convicted for the attack. Shortly
> after, Sondra Gibson was charged with soliciting a minor -- Murphy's
> 14-year-old brother -- whom Gibson wrote love letters, imploring him to
> "cross her over" and have her as his vampire bride.
>
> "Vesago" Attacks
>
> On November 25, the day of the murders, Ferrell and his companions were
> stopped by law enforcement officers and questioned because their
> vehicle had a flat tire. The flat caused Ferrell to change his plans.
> He told Wendorf and another friend, Jeanine LeClaire, about this and
> allegedly discussed with the group a plan to kill Wendorf's parents and
> take their Ford Explorer to use as a getaway vehicle.
>
>
> Richard Wendorf: was beaten to death by Ferrell and his cult in
> November 1996.
> Ferrell and friends arrived near the Wendorf home and met Heather
> Wendorf down the road from her house. He sent the three young women --
> Heather Wendorf, Cooper and Keesee -- to visit Heather's boyfriend and
> pick up LeClaire. Ferrell and Anderson stayed behind, armed with clubs.
>
>
> The two young men searched the outside of the Wendorf home, looking for
> some way to get inside. They entered through an unlocked door to the
> garage and searched the garage for better weapons. Ferrell finally
> settled on a crowbar.
>
> Ferrell and Anderson then went inside the house, yanked one phone from
> the wall, and came upon 49-year-old Richard Wendorf, asleep on the
> couch. Ferrell beat him several times with the crowbar, fracturing his
> skull and giving him numerous chest wounds, including fractured ribs.
>
> As Richard Wendorf lay dying, Naoma Queen left a bathroom in the house
> and entered the kitchen, where she found Ferrell. Ferrell had blood on
> his clothes and the crowbar in his hands. Queen threw hot coffee on him
> and fought him, but Ferrell beat her down to the floor and bashed her
> head with the crowbar several times.
> Naoma Queen: Ferrell's other victim.
>
> With Heather's parents dead, the two young men searched the house. They
> took a Discover card from Richard Wendorf's pocket and the keys to the
> Explorer, which they drove off in.
>
> They soon met the girls, who were returning to the area near the
> Wendorf home in the Buick Skyhawk they had originally used to drive
> down from Kentucky. The group then used both vehicles to drive to
> nearby Sanford, where they dumped the Buick. They switched the license
> plates, so that the Explorer had the Buick's plates (and the Buick, now
> left behind, had the plates of the stolen Explorer).
>
> The group of five -- Ferrell, Anderson, Keesee, Cooper and Heather
> Wendorf -- drove west along Interstate 10 through Tallahassee and
> towards New Orleans, presumably to meet famed vampire writer Anne Rice.
> They stopped in Crestview, Florida and bought gas and a knife using
> Richard Wendorf's stolen Discover card.
>
> One of the five made a call from Baton Rouge to Charity Keesee's
> family, and soon after, the five were caught. Ferrell was videotaped
> making two slightly different confessions, and four of the suspects --
> the two guys, Dana Cooper and Heather Wendorf -- were charged with
> murder. Keesee was charged with being an accessory after the fact. A
> grand jury indicted Ferrell and Anderson on December 17, 1996 but
> refused to indict Heather Wendorf.
>
> The Trial and Sentencing
>
> The trial against Ferrell began on February 12, 1998. As the state
> offered its opening arguments, Ferrell pled guilty to the four charges
> against him: armed burglary, armed robbery, and two counts of
> first-degree murder. The jury empanelled for his trial was then given
> the task of determining if Ferrell should be given life in prison or
> death in Florida's electric chair.
>
> Ferrell's lawyers argued that his young age should be a mitigating
> factor in his sentence, as well as his emotional age, which a
> psychiatrist placed at three years of age and his extreme emotional and
> mental disturbance.
>
> On February 23, the jury voted unanimously to give Ferrell the death
> sentence. After additional testimony from both sides, Judge Jerry
> Lockett accepted the jury recommendation four days later and sentenced
> Ferrell to the electric chair. He is now the youngest person in Florida
> to sit on death row.
>
> After the sentencing, Judge Lockett also urged prosecutors to charge
> Heather Wendorf, pointing to unanswered questions about her parents'
> death and saying, "There is genuine evil in this world." Ferrell's
> mother, Sondra Gibson, said she felt her son did not deserve the death
> penalty, but endorsed the judge's suggestion about Wendorf.
>
> "There's one person walking around who's just as guilty as he is," she
> said.
>
I guess then that all murders committed by people who went to church
should be blamed on the murderer being introduced to religion as a
child? You really should try thinking, although it's obvious that is
not your strong suit.
Malachias Invictus
"The Cunning Linguist :Ş- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions" <the_wi...@yahooY.com>
wrote in message news:fGYpg.960$Zo4...@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> I remember when Columbine first hit the news. Before they even knew the
> perps names they were saying they were members of a "Satanic cult." They
> stopped saying it but never retracted it. The same thing happened when a
> kid shot up a high school prayer group- until they found out he was a
> minister's son
> If "Satanic cults" did half the shit they get credit for, they would make
> the Nazis look like a Girl Scout troop
You sound like you are trying to cover for them.
Malachias Invictus
"The Cunning Linguist :Ş- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions" <the_wi...@yahooY.com>
>
> "Woof" <jamesd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:h%Ipg.33224$VE1....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
>>I think we all know it never would have happened if they never played D&D
>
> They probably would have lost their souls to a Ouija Board
A No-Limit Texas Hold 'Em table, more like...
Either that, or an ex-wife.
Chris Hayes
Malachias Invictus wrote:
> "Chris Hayes" <hay...@fadmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1151857870.5...@a14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > leo wrote:
> >
> >> I think these videogames are ment to stop the development of our kids.
> >
> > Not really. You use far more of your brain to play videogames than to
> > simply watch television. There are all kinds of videogames out there,
> > from strategy to puzzle games, which require a lot of thought to get
> > good at them.
>
> The main trick is to change games often ;-)
>
That's tough when one gets hooked on an addictive game like Ninja
Gaiden "Crack" and Devil May Cry 3.
Chris Hayes
Actually not. Games forums have far more intelligent conversation than
cesspools like political/religious forums.
Doc Smartass
kc.rr.com:
>
> "Marshall" <dest...@BRAKESiquest.net> wrote in message
> news:e873bp$omd$1...@news.iquest.net...
>>
>> "Ophidian" <oNpEhMi...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:0MCpg.5530$PO.3980@dukeread03...
>>> leo wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>>> I think these videogames are ment to stop the development of our
kids.
>>>> Brain can develope if there is variety in their experience.
>>>
>>> There is a lot of variety in video games!
>>> They're almost like books!
>>>
>>>> You can
>>>> see this fenomenom at work among Islamic countries.
>>>
>>> I've never seen such a thing.
>>> Perhaps I need to travel more...
>>>
>>>> They teach so much
>>>> religion at school that they are unable to learn scientific matters
in
>>>> a relative high degree.
>>>
>>> Hm, then why were so many of college professors Arabic?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> They arent Arabic, they're Indian...
>>
>> ...then theres that old Truism "Those that cant do, teach"
>
> Yeah but what about those who can't teach?
School Board.
--
Doc Smartass
"I am George W. Fudd, Miwwionaire. I own a mansion, a yacht, and your
phone number."
Loren...@gmx.de
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
<nothing(!) but a misleading subject line>
> Rod also claimed that as a young child, he was exposed to occult
> rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
> Dragons" role-playing game.
Nothing there about "Occult DnD".
Besides:
99% of all murderers in the USA have eaten hamburgers in
their childhood. Why does the US government allow this evil food
to corrupt your children?
What a boring troll...
<yawn>
LL
The Black Guardian
> raven1 wrote:
>> Tim McGaughy wrote:
>>> raven1 wrote:
>>>> Sound of Trumpet wrote:
>>>> "Dungeons & Dragons" isn't even mentioned here. Did you even bother to
>>>> read this before you posted it?
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Rod also claimed that as a young child, he was exposed to occult
>>>>> rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
>>>>> Dragons" role-playing game.
>>
>
> S'okay, I think yer point still stands, anyway. The article itself
> doesn't try to make any connection between the game and the actions of
> the criminals in question. The thread title is very misleading.
I'm not that naive. If the writer of the article didn't want a
connection to be made, it wouldn't have even mentioned it. It's just
not relevant unless the author wants a connection to be made.
Ophidian
>
> Ophidian wrote:
>
>> Werebat wrote:
>>>
>>> Ophidian wrote:
>>>
>>>> Decaying Atheist wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm a Great Library man myself.
>>>>
>>>> Pyramids.
>>>> Gotta go Pyramids.
>>>
>>> Why? Is Representation really that big a deal?
>>
>> I'm old school.
>> Growth is good.
>> The only religion we get is Monotheism. ;(
>
> Yeah, I always thought it was funny when the Indians got Monotheism...
>
> IV is great, you should give it a whirl.
I'd need to upgrade.
Not in the budget for a while.
It does have a turn based option though, right?
> Pyramids aren't about growth anymore, they let you pick any government
> you want.
I think I or II also had that.
Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y
Werebat <ranpo...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>Pyramids aren't about growth anymore, they let you pick any government
>you want. In IV early game (when you build them), this invariably means
>you pick Representation, which is a fair boost to science in the right
>situation but that's about it.
The science boost is one thing; the increased happiness is another, and
much more important at the higher levels of difficulty.
--
Leif Kjønnøy, cunctator maximus. http://www.pvv.org/~leifmk
Juho Julkunen
says...
> Werebat wrote:
>
> >
> > Ophidian wrote:
> > IV is great, you should give it a whirl.
>
> I'd need to upgrade.
> Not in the budget for a while.
>
> It does have a turn based option though, right?
Option? It is turn based.
> > Pyramids aren't about growth anymore, they let you pick any government
> > you want.
>
> I think I or II also had that.
Civ I at least, Civ II possibly. I can't undertand why they switched
back to that one. It's silly.
--
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"Malachias Invictus" <capt_ma...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "The Cunning Linguist :Ş- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions"
> <the_wi...@yahooY.com> wrote in message
> news:fGYpg.960$Zo4...@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
>> I remember when Columbine first hit the news. Before they even knew the
>> perps names they were saying they were members of a "Satanic cult." They
>> stopped saying it but never retracted it. The same thing happened when a
>> kid shot up a high school prayer group- until they found out he was a
>> minister's son
>> If "Satanic cults" did half the shit they get credit for, they would make
>> the Nazis look like a Girl Scout troop
>
> You sound like you are trying to cover for them.
Yes, I do all of Satan's PR work
The Cunning Linguist :Ş- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions
ARW, what was that one gaming group that hated Suzy so much?
rec.miniatures.warhammer or something
Anyway, what a bunch of whiney little bitches
T Guy
> http://www.courttv.com/archive/verdicts/vampire.html
(T Guy):
Hey, Strumpet, would you mind posting your life story so we can see
what it is that impels you to post links to toot on the net to this
group and then vanish?
My theory is that when you were a young child at the seaside a seagull
swept down on you, shat on you, then swept away almost before you
realised what had happened. This has led to you constantly imitating
this behaviour.
T Guy
Chris Hayes
The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions wrote:
> "Chris Hayes" <hay...@fadmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1151894282.3...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Jani wrote:
> >> "Chris Hayes" <hay...@fadmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1151857870.5...@a14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > leo wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I think these videogames are ment to stop the development of our kids.
> >> >
> >> > Not really. You use far more of your brain to play videogames than to
> >> > simply watch television. There are all kinds of videogames out there,
> >> > from strategy to puzzle games, which require a lot of thought to get
> >> > good at them.
> >>
> >> Judging by some of the exchanges on games *forums*, that's another nice
> >> idea
> >> that didn't pan out in practice :(
> >>
> >
> > Actually not. Games forums have far more intelligent conversation than
> > cesspools like political/religious forums.
> >
>
> ARW, what was that one gaming group that hated Suzy so much?
> rec.miniatures.warhammer or something
> Anyway, what a bunch of whiney little bitches
>
Yeah, but I'm positive they whine less than political wingnuts and
religious fundies.
BTW- Who the fuck is Suzy?
Malachias Invictus
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>
> "Malachias Invictus" <capt_ma...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b7idnTIUIOrw4jXZ...@comcast.com...
>>
>> "The Cunning Linguist :Ş- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions"
>> <the_wi...@yahooY.com> wrote in message
>> news:fGYpg.960$Zo4...@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>
>>> I remember when Columbine first hit the news. Before they even knew the
>>> perps names they were saying they were members of a "Satanic cult." They
>>> stopped saying it but never retracted it. The same thing happened when a
>>> kid shot up a high school prayer group- until they found out he was a
>>> minister's son
>>> If "Satanic cults" did half the shit they get credit for, they would
>>> make the Nazis look like a Girl Scout troop
>>
>> You sound like you are trying to cover for them.
>
> Yes, I do all of Satan's PR work
So, what are the wages of sin? Obviously not death, since you are typing on
Usenet.
Ophidian
> In article <mI4qg.6851$PO.1458@dukeread03>, oNpEhMi...@cox.net
> says...
>
>>Werebat wrote:
>>
>>>Ophidian wrote:
>
>>>IV is great, you should give it a whirl.
>>
>>I'd need to upgrade.
>>Not in the budget for a while.
>>
>>It does have a turn based option though, right?
>
> Option? It is turn based.
Ah, I heard it was realtime.
>>>Pyramids aren't about growth anymore, they let you pick any government
>>>you want.
>>
>>I think I or II also had that.
>
> Civ I at least, Civ II possibly. I can't undertand why they switched
> back to that one. It's silly.
Yeah, I don't really see the Pyramid/Granaries link either, but at
least it's consistent with an Egyptian theme.
Werebat
Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y wrote:
> In article <BDRpg.115563$Ce1.98766@dukeread01>,
> Werebat <ranpo...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>Pyramids aren't about growth anymore, they let you pick any government
>>you want. In IV early game (when you build them), this invariably means
>>you pick Representation, which is a fair boost to science in the right
>>situation but that's about it.
>
>
> The science boost is one thing; the increased happiness is another, and
> much more important at the higher levels of difficulty.
Oh, right, forgot about that one. Yeah, useful.
Still hovering at Prince level myself.
- Ron ^*^
Jon Schild
that any form of discussion would make this abundantly clear. Thus the
shout and run, to hold his widdle hands over his widdle ears and refuse
to listen to anyone else.
eyelessgame
[snip]
> When Ferrell was born on March 28, 1980, his mother, Sondra Gibson was
> only 17 years old, and his father, Rick Ferrell, was also a teen. The
> two were married nine days after baby Rod was born, but split up weeks
> afterwards.
> Sondra Gibson: The defendant's mother who allegedly encouraged his
> fascination with the occult.
>
> Rick Ferrell filed for a divorce and joined the military, while Sondra
> kept the child. Her parents also looked after Rod, who claimed Sondra's
> father -- his grandfather -- raped him when he was 5.
>
> Rod also claimed that as a young child, he was exposed to occult
> rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
> Dragons" role-playing game.
Troll
Large Giant
Hit Dice: 6d8+36 (63 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares)
Armor Class: 16 (-1 size, +2 Dex, +5 natural), touch 11, flat-footed
14
Base Attack/Grapple: +4/+14
Attack: Claw +9 melee (1d6+6)
Full Attack: 2 claws +9 melee (1d6+6) and bite +4 melee (1d6+3)
Space/Reach: 10 ft./10 ft.
Special Attacks: Rend 2d6+9
Special Qualities: Darkvision 90 ft., low-light vision, regeneration 5,
scent
Saves: Fort +11, Ref +4, Will +3
Abilities: Str 23, Dex 14, Con 23, Int 6, Wis 9, Cha 6
Skills: Listen +5, Spot +6
Feats: Alertness, Iron Will, Track
Environment: Cold mountains
(Scrag: Cold aquatic)
Organization: Solitary or gang (2-4)
Challenge Rating: 5
Treasure: Standard
Alignment: Usually chaotic evil
Advancement: By character class
Level Adjustment: +5
Trolls walk upright but hunched forward with sagging shoulders. Their
gait is uneven, and when they run, their arms dangle and drag along the
ground. For all this seeming awkwardness, trolls are very agile.
A typical adult troll stands 9 feet tall and weighs 500 pounds. Females
are slightly larger than males. A troll's rubbery hide is moss green,
mottled green and gray, or putrid gray. The hair is usually greenish
black or iron gray.
Trolls speak Giant.
COMBAT
Trolls have no fear of death: They launch themselves into combat
without hesitation, flailing wildly at the closest opponent. Even when
confronted with fire, they try to get around the flames and attack.
Rend (Ex): If a troll hits with both claw attacks, it latches onto the
opponent's body and tears the flesh. This attack automatically deals
an additional 2d6+9 points of damage.
Regeneration (Ex): Fire and acid deal normal damage to a troll. If a
troll loses a limb or body part, the lost portion regrows in 3d6
minutes. The creature can reattach the severed member instantly by
holding it to the stump.
Doc Smartass
news:1151971043.2...@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
<snip>
> Regeneration (Ex): Fire and acid deal normal damage to a troll. If a
> troll loses a limb or body part, the lost portion regrows in 3d6
> minutes. The creature can reattach the severed member instantly by
> holding it to the stump.
I remember seeing in one of the D&D groups where a guy hacked a bit of a
troll then chewed on it like gum until he needed a troll as a diversion.
*spit* *wait for troll-bit to regen into troll*
The Cunning Linguist :Ş- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions
---
Former lead cunt for alt.religion.wicca now probably dead in a ditch
somewhere
The Cunning Linguist :Ş- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions
"eyelessgame" <aa...@oro.net> wrote in message
news:1151971043.2...@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Trolls walk upright but hunched forward with sagging shoulders. Their
> gait is uneven, and when they run, their arms dangle and drag along the
> ground. For all this seeming awkwardness, trolls are very agile.
>
I think I saw some playing basketball down in the hood
The Cunning Linguist :Ş- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions
>
> "The Cunning Linguist :Ş- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions"
> <the_wi...@yahooY.com> wrote in message
> news:%_7qg.3621$Zo4....@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>
>> "Malachias Invictus" <capt_ma...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:b7idnTIUIOrw4jXZ...@comcast.com...
>>>
>>> "The Cunning Linguist :Ş- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions"
>>> <the_wi...@yahooY.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fGYpg.960$Zo4...@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>>
>>>> I remember when Columbine first hit the news. Before they even knew the
>>>> perps names they were saying they were members of a "Satanic cult."
>>>> They stopped saying it but never retracted it. The same thing happened
>>>> when a kid shot up a high school prayer group- until they found out he
>>>> was a minister's son
>>>> If "Satanic cults" did half the shit they get credit for, they would
>>>> make the Nazis look like a Girl Scout troop
>>>
>>> You sound like you are trying to cover for them.
>>
>> Yes, I do all of Satan's PR work
>
> So, what are the wages of sin? Obviously not death, since you are typing
> on Usenet.
Wages? Ha! I am salaried and have an excellent post-mortem retirement plan
Some Guy
> "Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of...@lycos.com> wrote in message
> news:1151768319.5...@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
>>http://www.courttv.com/archive/verdicts/vampire.html
>
>
> I think all of you are missing the point. D&D didn't *cause* this kid to
> become evil, it is just that only evil people, cultists, etc. would be
> interested in D&D.
>
Indeed. We have a photo that proves this:
Some Guy
> What's so funny about peace, love and "Sound of Trumpet"
> <sound_of...@lycos.com> posting the following on 1 Jul 2006
> 08:38:39 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
>
>
>>When Ferrell was born on March 28, 1980, his mother, Sondra Gibson was
>>only 17 years old, and his father, Rick Ferrell, was also a teen. The
>>two were married nine days after baby Rod was born, but split up weeks
>>afterwards.
>
>
> born.
>
>
>>Sondra Gibson: The defendant's mother who allegedly encouraged his
>>fascination with the occult.
>>
>>Rick Ferrell filed for a divorce and joined the military, while Sondra
>>kept the child. Her parents also looked after Rod, who claimed Sondra's
>>father -- his grandfather -- raped him when he was 5.
>
>
>
>
>>Rod also claimed that as a young child, he was exposed to occult
>>rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
>>Dragons" role-playing game.
>
>
> find?
>
>
>>Sondra Gibson eventually remarried and moved frequently with Rod before
>>leaving him in Murray, Kentucky and moving with her new husband to
>>Michigan. He allegedly told Rod that they were never coming back, and
>>Gibson apparently became so upset that she divorced him and moved back
>>to Murray to be with Rod. (Her second husband also allegedly engaged in
>>satanic rituals.)
>
>
> dragged all over the place dies wonderful things to a child.
>
>
>>Around this time, Rod began to undergo some sort of transformation. He
>>walked in cemeteries at night, cut himself so others could drink his
>>blood, and told people he was a 500-year-old vampire named "Vesago."
>>His school work slipped and he began flagrantly disobeying his schools'
>>policies, skipping class, smoking on campus and generally defying
>>teachers and school officials.
>
>
> who suddenly got big enough to rebel, and he did. considering the
> level of self-control shown by his mother, I'm not surprised he blew
> up.
>
>
>>He also indulged in playing "Vampire:
>>The Masquerade," a realistic role-playing game in which players act out
>>vampiric scenarios in real-time.
>
>
> but it was marketed under a different name.
>
>
>
>>His mother allowed him to stay out all night, use drugs, and skip
>>school, and he frequently spent time with a young man named Stephen
>>Murray, who brought the teenage Ferrell into the vampire world and
>>"crossed him over," turning him into a presumptive vampire and giving
>>him his name.
>
>
>
>
>>By the spring of 1996, Rod was also talking long-distance to Heather
>>Wendorf, who apparently told Rod that her parents were hurting her and
>>that she wanted him to come get her, but that he would have to kill
>>them to do so.
>
>
>
>
>>In September 1996, Murphy attacked Ferrell, who refused treatment when
>>taken to a local hospital. Murphy was convicted for the attack. Shortly
>>after, Sondra Gibson was charged with soliciting a minor -- Murphy's
>>14-year-old brother -- whom Gibson wrote love letters, imploring him to
>>"cross her over" and have her as his vampire bride.
>
>
> --
>
> Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
> Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
> Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
>
> "The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
> the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
> creature who would create such a thing." - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
This reminds me of an old atheist joke:
A very religious man lived right next door to an atheist. While the
religious one prayed day in, day out, and was constantly on his knees in
communion with his Lord, the atheist never even looked twice at a church.
However, the atheist's life was good, he had a well-paying job and a
beautiful wife, and his children were healthy and good- natured, whereas
the pious man's job was strenuous and his wages were low, his wife was
getting meaner every day and his kids wouldn't give him the time of the day.
So one day, deep in prayer as usual, he raised his eyes towards heaven
and asked:
"Oh God, I honour you every day, I ask your advice for every problem and
confess to you my every sin. Yet my neighbour, who doesn't even believe
in you and certainly never prays, seems blessed with every happiness,
while I go poor and suffer many an indignity. Why is this?"
And a great voice was heard from above:
"BECAUSE HE DOESN'T BOTHER ME ALL THE TIME!"
Some Guy
>
> "The Vampire Cult Slaying Case"
>
>
>
> Rod Ferrell: The leader of the alleged vampire cult who pled guilty to
> killing his ex-girlfriend's parents.
>
>
>
> On February 12, 1998, seventeen-year-old Rod Ferrell pled guilty to
> killing a Eustis, Florida couple with a crowbar. The leader of a
> teenage vampire cult, Ferrell was allegedly helped in the double
> slaying by his then-girlfriend, Charity Lynn Keesee, and two other
> members of the cult.
[snip]
And this EIGHT YEAR OLD CASE is relevant right now because...?
seon ferguson
beat people to death.
Seon
T Guy
> He realizes that he is pretty much void of any real intellegence, and
> that any form of discussion would make this abundantly clear. Thus the
> shout and run, to hold his widdle hands over his widdle ears and refuse
> to listen to anyone else.
(T Guy):
Yeah, this works for me.
Although there may be a flaw in your reasoning, namely that it lies on
the premise or assumption that Strumpet has enough intelligence to
realize that he is pretty much void of any real intellegence.
T G
Kilmir
Sound of Trumpet schreef:
> http://www.courttv.com/archive/verdicts/vampire.html
>
> Florida v. Rod Ferrell
>
> "The Vampire Cult Slaying Case"
<snip>
> A Disturbing Upbringing
>
> When Ferrell was born on March 28, 1980, his mother, Sondra Gibson was
> only 17 years old, and his father, Rick Ferrell, was also a teen. The
> two were married nine days after baby Rod was born, but split up weeks
> afterwards.
<snip>
I get the feeling that if abortion would have been a decent option this
story would have turned out much, much better for all involved.
Great story to promote pro-abortion, SoT !
Nevermore
ferguson wrote:
> From: "seon ferguson" <se...@iinet.net.au>
> Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.society.liberalism,alt.religion.wicca,rec.
> games.frp.dnd,rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Florida Vampire Cult
> Leader Was Introduced To The Occult "Dungeons & Dragons" Game As A
> Child Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 20:53:13 +1000
>
> Oh I get it if you play dungeons and dragons you'll form a vampire
> cult and beat people to death.
>
> Seon
That's why there are bodies stacked like cordwood behind every comics
shop coast to coast...
Nevermore
nevermore
wrote:
dungeons and dragons??? OMG, what a bunch of loons.
Nevermore
> From: nevermore <stevencanyon@y***hoo.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.society.liberalism,alt.religion.wicca,rec.
> games.frp.dnd,rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Florida Vampire Cult
> Leader Was Introduced To The Occult "Dungeons & Dragons" Game As A
> werewolves cry
>
> On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 07:48:31 -0500, Nevermore <bur...@thestake.net>
> wrote:
>
>>In <44aa4899$0$14121$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> seon
>>ferguson wrote:
>>> From: "seon ferguson" <se...@iinet.net.au>
>>> Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.society.liberalism,alt.religion.wicca,
>>> As A Child Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 20:53:13 +1000
>>>
>>> Oh I get it if you play dungeons and dragons you'll form a vampire
>>> cult and beat people to death.
>>>
>>> Seon
>>
>>That's why there are bodies stacked like cordwood behind every comics
>>shop coast to coast...
>>
>>Nevermore
>
> dungeons and dragons??? OMG, what a bunch of loons.
Why is it we can hear banjos in the background every time you go into
paroxysms?
Nevermore
Ophidian
>
> dungeons and dragons???
>
> liberal???
>
> wiccans???
>
> science fiction fans???
>
> usenet posters???
>
> pots???
>
> kettles???
>
> OMG, what a bunch of loons.
--
Ophidian
>
> >
> > dungeons and dragons???
> >
> > liberal???
> >
> > wiccans???
> >
> > science fiction fans???
> >
> > usenet posters???
> >
> > pots???
> >
> > kettles???
> >
> > OMG, what a bunch of loons.
Hm, no atheists?
(Oh, right, no fictional characters allowed...)
2535 Dead
wrote:
>Oh I get it if you play dungeons and dragons you'll form a vampire cult and
>beat people to death.
It's been an ongoing problem in these parts, with the result that we
are running low on virgins to sacrifice to the volcano.
>
>Seon
>
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Werebat
Nevermore wrote:
You got a purty mouth.
- Ron ^*^
nevermore
wrote:
I can see that for such people as yourself, reality is just an
uncomfortable stopping over place to eat, sleep, and take a shit,
before you jump back onto the train headed for one of the fantasy
worlds.
>Nevermore
Chris Hayes
The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions wrote:
> "Chris Hayes" <hay...@fadmail.com> wrote in message
Ah. We ain't heard of her here in RGFD.
Chris Hayes
You say this like its a bad thing.
Westprog
"Mike Schilling" <mscotts...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:IVwpg.125911$dW3....@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> > rituals and human sacrifices, and was introduced to the "Dungeons &
> > Dragons" role-playing game.
> If only he'd never played D&D he'd have been fine.
I've noticed that in a number of murder cases in the USA, they fail to
mention whether the killer played D&D. I assume that there is minimal chance
of anyone being driven to such a deed without the corrupting influence of
role-playing games.
J/
BOTW: "Dawkin's God" - Alister McGrath
Nevermore
> On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 08:56:03 -0500, Nevermore <bur...@thestake.net>
> wrote:
>
>>In <qaska2ldpk7qktspj...@4ax.com> nevermore wrote:
>>> From: nevermore <stevencanyon@y***hoo.com>
yet you think we're loons? We're Witches, you idiot. We ARE reality.
We drive our big black SUVs right out to the surf and park in it after
midnight. We wield reality like a scalpel. We don't watch the watch
and get very, very sleepy debating chickens vs. eggs, Intellect vs.
Talesin, Rush Limbaugh and Anne Coulter vs. Christians, liberals, soccer
moms and other fictional creatures. From the Four Seasons to the Ritz
Carleton I can assure you I find reality very comfortable and when I
drive out past the asphalt and into the salt marshes and mountains
beyond the reach of cable television, talk radio, and all the other
agitprop meant to dazzle and blind the lazy and the gullible I find that
the only people who are living in fantasy worlds are those that can't
believe in Witchcraft because of what it would mean for them, not the
Witches.
Nevermore
nevermore
wrote:
<LOL> Yeah, you're loons all right...
>We're Witches, you idiot.
Irony anyone?
>We ARE reality.
>We drive our big black SUVs right out to the surf and park in it after
>midnight. We wield reality like a scalpel.
....and settle in for a healthy dungeons and dragons session?
>We don't watch the watch
>and get very, very sleepy debating chickens vs. eggs, Intellect vs.
>Talesin, Rush Limbaugh and Anne Coulter vs. Christians, liberals, soccer
>moms and other fictional creatures. From the Four Seasons to the Ritz
>Carleton I can assure you I find reality very comfortable and when I
>drive out past the asphalt and into the salt marshes and mountains
<LOL> You probably imagine that you've actually experienced
nature... while sitting in your car?
>beyond the reach of cable television, talk radio, and all the other
>agitprop meant to dazzle and blind the lazy and the gullible I find that
>the only people who are living in fantasy worlds are those that can't
>believe in Witchcraft because of what it would mean for them, not the
>Witches.
I doubt that you'd even notice reality if it farted in your face, in
fact, you have to actually be afraid of facing reality to need to find
solace in a fantasy like witchcraft. I'm pretty sure that way down
deep, you know that and all you're doing with all this bluster is to
keep that reality from farting in your face.
>Nevermore
Werebat
Don't forget fucking!
- Ron ^*^