Names for Earth in Sci-Fi
mra...@willamette.edu
encountered in science-fiction?
Terra is the obvious one of course, but what else?
Also, is there a list anywhere on what different languages call this
planet and what those words translate to in English? Is Earth (meaning
dirt, land) pretty universal across history and cultures or are their
any other contendors for the name of our planet?
Thanks,
Mike Ralls
Paul Howard
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I can only remember two names besides Earth And Terra. Doc Smith in the
Lensman Series called Earth "Tellus". In _Witches Of Karres_, the term
Yurth was used (IIRC).
Since, I've only read SF written in English or translated into English, I
can't comment on non-English language SF.
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Rich Horton
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><mra...@willamette.edu> wrote in message
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>> What are all the names given for the planet Earth that you have
>> encountered in science-fiction?
>>
>> Terra is the obvious one of course, but what else?
>>
>> Also, is there a list anywhere on what different languages call this
>> planet and what those words translate to in English? Is Earth (meaning
>> dirt, land) pretty universal across history and cultures or are their
>> any other contendors for the name of our planet?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike Ralls
>>
>
>I can only remember two names besides Earth And Terra. Doc Smith in the
>Lensman Series called Earth "Tellus". In _Witches Of Karres_, the term
>Yurth was used (IIRC).
Well, Urth, of course. (In THE BOOK OF THE NEW SUN.)
E. C. Tubb used to have characters disparagingly refer to the world of
Dumarest's quest as "Dirt".
I seem to recall names like "Homeworld" and "Earthhome", but I can't
place the novels/stories/series that used those.
Sol III.
Gene Ward Smith
Rich Horton wrote:
> E. C. Tubb used to have characters disparagingly refer to the world of
> Dumarest's quest as "Dirt".
In Tsaddick of the Seven Wonders it was "Dirt" until it got changed at
the very end.
Wilson Heydt
Paul Howard <ppauls...@insightbb.com> wrote:
><mra...@willamette.edu> wrote in message
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>> What are all the names given for the planet Earth that you have
>> encountered in science-fiction?
>>
>> Terra is the obvious one of course, but what else?
>>
>> Also, is there a list anywhere on what different languages call this
>> planet and what those words translate to in English? Is Earth (meaning
>> dirt, land) pretty universal across history and cultures or are their
>> any other contendors for the name of our planet?
>
>Lensman Series called Earth "Tellus". In _Witches Of Karres_, the term
>Yurth was used (IIRC).
There's also Sol III.
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> Also, is there a list anywhere on what different languages call this
> planet and what those words translate to in English?
I've got a dictionary at home that does this - and if no one else beats
me to it I can answer this question more fully tomorrow night.
However, I bopped around some wikipedias and here are some easy ones:
German - Erde
French - Terre, also planète bleue
Spanish - Tierra
I'm thinking it all depends on where the languages came from. German is
closer to English and uses Erde, the romance languages - including
Italian which doesn't have its own Wikipedia, will probably be closer
to Terre.
omnivo...@yahoo.com
omnivore_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Also, is there a list anywhere on what different languages call this
> > planet and what those words translate to in English?
There is this website, which has the names for the Earth and all the
other planets in a dozen different languages.
http://www.wappswelt.de/tnp/nineplanets/days.html
Caroline
The Thunder Child
http://thethunderchild.com
Butch Malahide
> What are all the names given for the planet Earth that you have
> encountered in science-fiction?
<http://www.jessesword.com/sf/list>
Besides Earth, our planet has been called:
Terra (R. Payne Smith, Science and Revelation, 1873; in science
fiction, Harry Stephen Keeler, John Jones' Dollar, 1915);
Tellus (Gawain Edwards, A Rescue from Jupiter, 1930);
Sol Three (Edward E. Smith, The Vortex Blaster, 1941).
I believe that's all of the standard names for Earth.
In stories from an alien or far-future point of view, you'll find
altered or respelled forms, such as Rhth ("Don A. Stuart",
Forgetfulness, 1937).
Indigenous Martians, Venerians et al. will have their own alien names
for our planet. In Mark Twain's Extract from Captain Stormfield's Visit
to Heaven, Earth is called "the Wart".
Leebehr
Later on it gets a newer name "Ushas"
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> mra...@willamette.edu wrote:
>> What are all the names given for the planet Earth that you have
>> encountered in science-fiction?
>
> <http://www.jessesword.com/sf/list>
>
> Besides Earth, our planet has been called:
> Terra (R. Payne Smith, Science and Revelation, 1873; in science
> fiction, Harry Stephen Keeler, John Jones' Dollar, 1915);
> Tellus (Gawain Edwards, A Rescue from Jupiter, 1930);
> Sol Three (Edward E. Smith, The Vortex Blaster, 1941).
>
> I believe that's all of the standard names for Earth.
>
> In stories from an alien or far-future point of view, you'll find
> altered or respelled forms, such as Rhth ("Don A. Stuart",
> Forgetfulness, 1937).
>
In "Illegal Aliens," it was translated as "Dirt."
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Butch Malahide wrote:
> Indigenous Martians, Venerians et al. will have their own alien names
> for our planet. In Mark Twain's Extract from Captain Stormfield's Visit
> to Heaven, Earth is called "the Wart".
Much more elegantly, "Thulcandra", the Silent Planet.
Leebehr
Thulcandra.
Leebehr
Konrad Gaertner
>
> What are all the names given for the planet Earth that you have
> encountered in science-fiction?
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Jon Schild
Konrad Gaertner wrote:
> mra...@willamette.edu wrote:
>
>>What are all the names given for the planet Earth that you have
>>encountered in science-fiction?
>
>
> Blito P3
> (And I'd prefer not to admit to having read the source.)
>
Sounds like something I tried to block out. The Invader's Plan, perhaps?
Scott Golden
> I've seen "Gaia" somewhere...not sure which spelling was used though...
>
> - Steve
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>>What are all the names given for the planet Earth that you have
>>encountered in science-fiction?
>>
>>Terra is the obvious one of course, but what else?
>>
Gaia, Gaea, Gea, etc. = the Greek goddess of earth. The name was used in
"Foundation's Edge" (for a planet that was not Earth), and for a
planet in an episode of Deep Space Nine.
Steve Harclerode
and I think the author was female. Sorry, getting too old to remember her
name.
- Steve
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> Steve Harclerode wrote:
>
>> I've seen "Gaia" somewhere...not sure which spelling was used though...
>>
>> - Steve
>
Wendy
>
>> Also, is there a list anywhere on what different languages call this
>> planet and what those words translate to in English?
>
>I've got a dictionary at home that does this - and if no one else beats
>me to it I can answer this question more fully tomorrow night.
>
>However, I bopped around some wikipedias and here are some easy ones:
>
>German - Erde
>French - Terre, also plančte bleue
>Spanish - Tierra
In Dutch (Nederlands): Aarde
What about this:
World
Welt (German)
Wereld (Dutch)
medrith...@sbcglobal.net
written before he'd really come into his full Jack Vance style, where
Earth was called Nopalgarth.
Medrith
Mike Schilling
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>I have a vague recollection of an early Jack Vance story or short novel,
>written before he'd really come into his full Jack Vance style, where Earth
>was called Nopalgarth.
>
>
and it's not as early as you might think: 1964, after "The Moon Moth", "The
Dragon Masters", _The Eyes of the Overworld_, and other fully mature Vance.
I'll agree that it's not very good, but the date isn't its problem.
Wendy
The old Vikings had nice names for heaven (Asgard), hell (Niflheim)
and Earth (Midgard).
Tolkien desribed it in Lord of the Rings as "Arda", with the
continents being called "Middle-Earth".
In Stargate SG-1, the people from Earth are called "Tau'ri" by the
Jaffa.
In Battlestar Galactica, I believe that "Kobol" was the name they had
for Earth.
Wikipedia is your friend. Following links I found another nice name.
Harry Turtledove wrote the Worldwar and Colonization novels, in which
Earth was called "Tosev 3".
Gaia is used often in fiction.
The Roman goddess for the soil was called Tellus. This is used often
in other word. I can't remember, but I think it might be used in
fiction as well.
Edgar Rice Burroughs wrote about John Carter of Mars, in which, Mars
was Barsoom, and Earth was called Jasoom.
Earth in other languages:
- Aramaic: Ereds
- Aztec: Coatlicue
- Chinese: Hou ji
- Congolese: Ntoto
- Cornish (Kerneweg, the language in Cornwall): Dor
- Czech: Zeme
- Danish / Norwegian / Swedish: Jorden
- Dutch: Aarde
- Egyptian: Geb / Ta
- Esperanto: Tero
- Estonian / Finnish: Maa
- French: Terre
- Frisian: Ierde
- Gaelic: Talamh
- German: Erde
- Greek: Gaea / Era
- Hebrew: HaOlam
- Hindi / Sanskrit: Prithvi
- Hungarian: Föld
- Icelandic: Jord
- Ido: Tero
- Incan: Pachamama
- Indonesian: Bumi (Dunia?)
- Japanese: Chikyuu
- Korean: Jeegoo
- Latin / Italian / Portuguese: Terra
- Lëtzebuergesch (Luxemburgish): Äerd
- Limburg (Dutch dialect): Eerd
- Maltese: Dinja
- Maori: Papa
- Mayan: Bacabs
- Nedersaksisch (Dutch dialect): Eerde
- Polish: Ziemia
- Russian: Zemlya
- Scottish: Yird
- Serbo-Croatian: Zemlja
- Slovene: Zemlja
- Spanish: Tierra
- Sumerian: Enlil
- Telugu (Dravidian): Bhoomi
- Turkish: Yer
James Nicoll
Wendy <nom...@nomail.nomail> wrote:
>
>In Battlestar Galactica, I believe that "Kobol" was the name they had
>for Earth.
>
SPOILERS
already found Kobol but aren't going to stop there if they can
help it, Despite the total impossibility, they think Earth is a colony
like the ones settled by Kobol's B-Ark, rather than the real homeworld.
The long term plan is to find Earth and by settling there, bring the wrath
of the Cylons down on the Terrans (See "B Ark").
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> In article <8dn0f2l6crg5ilh7s...@4ax.com>,
> Wendy <nom...@nomail.nomail> wrote:
>>
>>In Battlestar Galactica, I believe that "Kobol" was the name they had
>>for Earth.
>>
> If so, that would be hilarious, because they've
>
> SPOILERS
>
>
>
> already found Kobol but aren't going to stop there if they can
> help it, Despite the total impossibility, they think Earth is a colony
> like the ones settled by Kobol's B-Ark, rather than the real homeworld.
That's right, isn't it? (the B-ark being the one with the marketeers and
telephone sanitizers).
James Nicoll
lights up like a frickin' night light, so what does that about all the
people who aren't that smart?
Jon Schild
One of those spellings was used in John Varley's Titan/Wizard/Demon
trilogy, but not for earth. It was an intellegent and not entirely
benign "planet".
Sean O'Hara
omnivo...@yahoo.com declared:
> omnivore_...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>>Also, is there a list anywhere on what different languages call this
>>>planet and what those words translate to in English?
>
> There is this website, which has the names for the Earth and all the
> other planets in a dozen different languages.
>
>
> http://www.wappswelt.de/tnp/nineplanets/days.html
Clearly out of date.
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Sean O'Hara
>
> The Smartest Man on Caprica never noticed that his Hawt Girlfriend
> lights up like a frickin' night light,
Only her spine. If we assume they've never done it in a dark room,
and Baltar doesn't like certain sexual positions, there's no problem.
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JXStern
CS Lewis had it as Malacandra.
J.
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>omnivo...@yahoo.com declared:
>> omnivore_...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>>Also, is there a list anywhere on what different languages call this
>>>>planet and what those words translate to in English?
>>
>> There is this website, which has the names for the Earth and all the
>> other planets in a dozen different languages.
>>
>>
>> http://www.wappswelt.de/tnp/nineplanets/days.html
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Clearly out of date.
You mean the URL? It worked for me. And it's got 48 languages.
Gene Ward Smith
JXStern wrote:
> Excellent list.
>
> CS Lewis had it as Malacandra.
Thulcandra.
Glenn P.,
:> CS Lewis had it as Malacandra.
> Thulcandra.
Indeed! "Malacandra" was Mars!
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David Tate
Right; Malacandra is Mars.
ISTR that there was another name for pre-Fall (or post-Apocalypse)
Earth; 'Thulcandra' means "The Silent Planet", so the name wouldn't
have applied before the Fall.
David Tate
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He was making about a joke about the number of planets.
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Par
> - Sumerian: Enlil
- Swedish: Jorden
In some Swedish SF it has been Tellus.
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Peter Bruells
> Indigenous Martians, Venerians et al. will have their own alien names
> for our planet. In Mark Twain's Extract from Captain Stormfield's Visit
> to Heaven, Earth is called "the Wart".
The Martians (Or rather the Nume from Nu) from "Auf Zwei Planeten" by
Kurd Laßwitz, around 1890, called Earth "Ba" and humans "Bate". Though
I assume that these transliterations are more useful to Germans.
John Fairhurst
>What are all the names given for the planet Earth that you have
>encountered in science-fiction?
>
>
>dirt, land) pretty universal across history and cultures or are their
>any other contendors for the name of our planet?
>
>Thanks,
>Mike Ralls
>
It's not really another name, but Weber and Stross have named Earth Old Earth,
presumanbly to differentiate from a plethora of New Earths scattered
throughout the galaxy.
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>
> Butch Malahide wrote:
>
> > Indigenous Martians, Venerians et al. will
have their own alien names
> > for our planet. In Mark Twain's Extract from
Captain Stormfield's Visit
> > to Heaven, Earth is called "the Wart".
>
Planet.
>
And "Yinnisfar" in Aldiss' _The Canopy Of Time_
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Butch Malahide
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> > Butch Malahide wrote:
> >
> > > Indigenous Martians, Venerians et al. will
> have their own alien names
> > > for our planet. In Mark Twain's Extract from
> Captain Stormfield's Visit
> > > to Heaven, Earth is called "the Wart".
> >
> > Much more elegantly, "Thulcandra", the Silent
> Planet.
> >
> And "Yinnisfar" in Aldiss' _The Canopy Of Time_
Hardly seems worthwhile to start listing alien names for Earth, as
there will be as many as there are authors. Well, you could make a
stfnal trivia quiz out of this stuff, e.g.,
"This author's Martians called the earth 'Shentol.'"
Timdo99
John Fairhurst wrote:
> It's not really another name, but Weber and Stross have named Earth Old Earth,
> presumanbly to differentiate from a plethora of New Earths scattered
> throughout the galaxy.
>
>
>
> --
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And in Firefly it is referred to as Earth That Was...
Robert Hutchinson
> In the Year of the Dog, the Great and Powerful James Nicoll declared:
> >
> > The Smartest Man on Caprica never noticed that his Hawt Girlfriend
> > lights up like a frickin' night light,
>
> Only her spine. If we assume they've never done it in a dark room,
> and Baltar doesn't like certain sexual positions, there's no problem.
So, we're assuming they've never done it in a dark room, then.
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_spelled_ it as "capital ur, soft theta." Was it Glory Road?
gary
James Nicoll
>>
>> The Smartest Man on Caprica never noticed that his Hawt Girlfriend
>> lights up like a frickin' night light,
>
>Only her spine. If we assume they've never done it in a dark room,
>and Baltar doesn't like certain sexual positions, there's no problem.
>
in on Baltar while he was screwing his hallucination of Six.
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OTOH Yinnisfar was not just an alien name. It
became Earth's _official_ name at the insistence
of the Galactic society which mankind had joined.
Apparently there were already numerous worlds
calling themselves "earth" and all now ones were
atomatically renamed.
Jerry Brown
>What are all the names given for the planet Earth that you have
>encountered in science-fiction?
>
>Terra is the obvious one of course, but what else?
>
>Also, is there a list anywhere on what different languages call this
>planet and what those words translate to in English? Is Earth (meaning
>dirt, land) pretty universal across history and cultures or are their
>any other contendors for the name of our planet?
Fintlewoodlewix in The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy (the radio
series at least; I don't know if it made the transition to the book
version, since I haven't read them in a quarter century).
Jerry Brown
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> Terra is the obvious one of course, but what else?
_Shikasta_, in the book by Doris Lessing.
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DJensen
> What are all the names given for the planet Earth that you have
> encountered in science-fiction?
>
I believe the Isaac's Universe books called Earth Erth, and humans
Erthumoi.
I'd be surprised if there wasn't a work of SF out there that didn't
rename the planet Ocean.
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DJensen
> What are all the names given for the planet Earth that you have
> encountered in science-fiction?
>
> Terra is the obvious one of course, but what else?
There's also a variation on that from the Warhammer series of games:
Holy Terra.
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Robert Hutchinson <ser...@hotmail.com> said:
> Sean O'Hara says...
>
>>> The Smartest Man on Caprica never noticed that his Hawt
>>> Girlfriend lights up like a frickin' night light,
>>
>> Only her spine. If we assume they've never done it in a dark room,
>> and Baltar doesn't like certain sexual positions, there's no problem.
>
> So, we're assuming they've never done it in a dark room, then.
If it's the classical missionary position, her back -- and its
glowing spine -- could be pressed into the bed, allowing no light
to escape.
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Robert Hutchinson
> Robert Hutchinson said:
> > Sean O'Hara says...
> >
> >>> The Smartest Man on Caprica never noticed that his Hawt
> >>> Girlfriend lights up like a frickin' night light,
> >>
> >> Only her spine. If we assume they've never done it in a dark room,
> >> and Baltar doesn't like certain sexual positions, there's no problem.
> >
> > So, we're assuming they've never done it in a dark room, then.
>
> If it's the classical missionary position, her back -- and its
> glowing spine -- could be pressed into the bed, allowing no light
> to escape.
I think you misread my implication.
"It's like a bad Gentry Lee novel!"
"So, it's like a Gentry Lee novel."
The idea that Baltar, of all people, would never have participated in a
back-viewing sexual position is ... doubtful.
David Johnston
>> >>> The Smartest Man on Caprica never noticed that his Hawt
>> >>> Girlfriend lights up like a frickin' night light,
That's because she doesn't. It just looks to us like she does. Same
as that music that comes from nowhere and the way they seem to be
talking English.
James Nicoll
Robert Hutchinson <ser...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>William December Starr says...
>> Robert Hutchinson said:
>> > Sean O'Hara says...
>> >
>> >>> The Smartest Man on Caprica never noticed that his Hawt
>> >>> Girlfriend lights up like a frickin' night light,
>> >>
>> >> Only her spine. If we assume they've never done it in a dark room,
>> >> and Baltar doesn't like certain sexual positions, there's no problem.
>> >
>> > So, we're assuming they've never done it in a dark room, then.
>>
>> If it's the classical missionary position, her back -- and its
>> glowing spine -- could be pressed into the bed, allowing no light
>> to escape.
>
>I think you misread my implication.
>
>"It's like a bad Gentry Lee novel!"
>"So, it's like a Gentry Lee novel."
>
>The idea that Baltar, of all people, would never have participated in a
>back-viewing sexual position is ... doubtful.
>
DJensen
And the sounds in space...
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I actually came up with a halfway-plausible explanation for the noise of
passing ships in "Star Wars": These obviously aren't any kind of rocket,
so maybe they generate a gravity-wave noise that induces vibration in an
observer's ship that he can hear. Of course, those would have to be some
*damn* intense g-waves, and would be a huge waste of power for the
generating ship.
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Do that well enough and you can get away with almost anything.