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David Johnston

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Sep 5, 2019, 11:18:28 PM9/5/19
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A typical young male Japanese man is hit by a truck. He is then sent by
a kami to another world with enough magic power to defeat whole armies.
He uses this power to acquire a "harem" of female companions who do most
of the actual work because he's almost as friggin' lazy as his author.

A typical Japanese teenage girl just arbitrarily wakes up one day
(because apparently Truck-kun only visits male characters) and discovers
that she is now an aristocratic villainess in her favourite fantasy
otome* game doomed to have her fiancee stolen by the heroine after which
she'll lose all of her wealth and power and may end up imprisoned or
even executed. She normally attempts to use her foreknowledge to evade
her fate, which sometimes results in a major genre shift.

(An otome game is a story based video game that is targeted towards the
female market. Generally one of the goals, besides the main plot goal,
is to develop a romantic relationship between the female player
character and one of several male or female characters.)

A "villainess" from an otome game (or at least a plot that mimics one)
must, after losing her fiancee and position, go into exile and use her
strength of character to rise to power in her own right.

A member of an adventuring party who isn't much of a offensive combatant
is deceived and betrayed (by the mage usually) in order to expel them.
However they had great non-combat talents that will be missed as they
pursue their own lives and the party struggles without them. Possibly
they will develop vast combat abilities without their exploitative party
holding them back.

All the players of a massively multiplayer online roleplaying game
possibly using futuristic VR technology find themselves trapped in the game.



Titus G

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Sep 6, 2019, 3:02:55 AM9/6/19
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On 6/09/19 3:18 PM, David Johnston wrote:
> A typical young male Japanese man is hit by a truck.  He is then sent by
> a kami to another world with enough magic power to defeat whole armies.
> He uses this power to acquire a "harem" of female companions who do most
> of the actual work because he's almost as friggin' lazy as his author.

Based on no research whatsoever but with careful remembrance of my own
fantasies, I do not understand the need to be hit by a truck nor to be
Japanese.

> A typical Japanese teenage girl just arbitrarily wakes up one day
> (because apparently Truck-kun only visits male characters) and discovers
> that she is now an aristocratic villainess in her favourite fantasy
> otome* game doomed to have her fiancee stolen by the heroine after which
> she'll lose all of her wealth and power and may end up imprisoned or
> even executed.  She normally attempts to use her foreknowledge to evade
> her fate, which sometimes results in a major genre shift.

I won't be reading that genre. Thanks for the warning.

> (An otome game is a story based video game that is targeted towards the
> female market. Generally one of the goals, besides the main plot goal,
> is to develop a romantic relationship between the female player
> character and one of several male or female characters.)

True lit chit chewer. Enough.

David Johnston

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Sep 6, 2019, 4:12:30 AM9/6/19
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On 2019-09-06 1:02 a.m., Titus G wrote:
> On 6/09/19 3:18 PM, David Johnston wrote:
>> A typical young Japanese man is hit by a truck.  He is then sent
>> by a kami to another world with enough magic power to defeat whole
>> armies. He uses this power to acquire a "harem" of female companions
>> who do most of the actual work because he's almost as friggin' lazy as
>> his author.
>
> Based on no research whatsoever but with careful remembrance of my own
> fantasies, I do not understand the need to be hit by a truck nor to be
> Japanese.

Well the author's Japanese of course. Light novel is a distinctively
Japanese format. The thing is, these things are wildly popular these
days in Japan. Truck-Kun is not technically necessary. The hero of
That Time I Got Reincarnated As A Slime actually got stabbed, probably
because the author wanted him to be conscious long enough to beg his
friend to destroy the hard drive on his computer. But typically the
hero dies getting hit by a truck. The reason for that is that manga
artists prefer a truck because it's easier than depicting what happens
when a car hits a human.

Robert Carnegie

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Sep 6, 2019, 5:03:03 AM9/6/19
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Oh, he dies! I assumed that the truck bit was a meet-cute.
I suppose it still kind of is.

Now, you wouldn't want the female companions to have
nothing to do in the story but provide set-dressing
for the big magic hero... well, if I'm honest,
I don't say I would object strongly.

The other plots are about gaming, and evidently all of
this is about manga, comics. Manga is or was the big
thing in Japan, but how big is gaming? Do salarymen
do it?

Juho Julkunen

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Sep 6, 2019, 7:42:48 AM9/6/19
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In article <qksj62$gg5$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, davidjo...@yahoo.com
says...
>
> A typical young male Japanese man is hit by a truck. He is then sent by

Are these not the standard isekai plots? (Possibly the complete set of
isekai plots?) As popular as those stories apparently are, surely there
are other standard Japanese plots.

Like a typical young girl having an encounter with a mysterious, cute
creature (and the universe's ice-cold night), and subsequently finding
herself fighting evil by moonlight and winning love by daylight.

Or a typical teen boy having an encounter with a mysterious woman
(possibly falling from the sky) and finding himself enbroiled in a
struggle against an overwhelming enemy.

Or a new high school student meeting a cast of quirky fellow students,
with hijinks ensuing.

--
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Juho Julkunen

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Sep 6, 2019, 7:55:08 AM9/6/19
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In article <cfc666ce-4f15-43a3...@googlegroups.com>,
rja.ca...@excite.com says...
>
>
> The other plots are about gaming, and evidently all of
> this is about manga, comics. Manga is or was the big
> thing in Japan, but how big is gaming? Do salarymen
> do it?

This was about light novels, actually, but the popular ones will
inevitably get a manga adaptation. Manga remains very popular in Japan.

Gaming is, worldwide, the single largest segment of the entertainment
industry, bigger than TV or movies or music. Most everybody does it.

--
Juho Julkunen

Carl Fink

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Sep 6, 2019, 9:16:42 AM9/6/19
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On 2019-09-06, David Johnston <davidjo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> A typical young male Japanese man is hit by a truck.

Aside from Ranma Saotome, how many female Japanese men star in these
stories?
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Juho Julkunen

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Sep 6, 2019, 12:07:57 PM9/6/19
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In article <slrnqn4n1n...@panix5.panix.com>, ca...@panix.com
says...
>
> On 2019-09-06, David Johnston <davidjo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > A typical young male Japanese man is hit by a truck.
>
> Aside from Ranma Saotome, how many female Japanese men star in these
> stories?

Not many, one would imagine, since it was specified that truck-kun is
attracted to young male Japanese men.

Female Japanese men abound in other subgenres.

https://www.ranker.com/list/best-gender-bender-manga-of-all-
time/ranker-anime

There's also story types that mostly feature women of the opposite sex,
of course.

--
Juho Julkunen

David Johnston

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Sep 6, 2019, 2:15:56 PM9/6/19
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No, they're actually novels. Novels, mind you, that both influence and
are influenced by comics. They have some manga-style illustrations in
them, but they're prose novels. And yeah, those tend to be different
types of gamelit.

Actually there is another standard premise that isn't so much game
influenced. "The heroine lives a life in which she is exploited,
betrayed and murdered but gets reincarnated and now seeks to relive her
life without making the mistake of trusting those closest to her."


Manga is or was the big
> thing in Japan, but how big is gaming? Do salarymen
> do it?
>

Japan is second only to the United States when it comes to manufacturing
console games. You don't do that without a big domestic market.

David Johnston

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Sep 6, 2019, 2:20:18 PM9/6/19
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Those are common comic/cartoon premises but I haven't actually been
observing a lot of them in the novels I've been trolling through as
opposed to the ones I listed which I'm seeing again again, again and
again. What I have noticed is a lot of "poor girl is "forced" to marry
rich guy" stories but I didn't include it because of topicality issues.

David Johnston

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Sep 6, 2019, 2:22:05 PM9/6/19
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On 2019-09-06 7:16 a.m., Carl Fink wrote:
> On 2019-09-06, David Johnston <davidjo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> A typical young male Japanese man is hit by a truck.
>
> Aside from Ranma Saotome, how many female Japanese men star in these
> stories?
>

I lost focus when writing the sentence.

Dimensional Traveler

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Sep 6, 2019, 4:50:10 PM9/6/19
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You certainly lost something. :)

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David DeLaney

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Sep 9, 2019, 5:35:59 AM9/9/19
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On 2019-09-06, Juho Julkunen <giao...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> rja.ca...@excite.com says...
>> The other plots are about gaming, and evidently all of
>> this is about manga, comics. Manga is or was the big
>> thing in Japan, but how big is gaming? Do salarymen do it?
>
> This was about light novels, actually, but the popular ones will
> inevitably get a manga adaptation. Manga remains very popular in Japan.
>
> Gaming is, worldwide, the single largest segment of the entertainment
> industry, bigger than TV or movies or music. Most everybody does it.

I understand that in Korea, they sometimes die of doing it.

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