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Lawrence Person

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Jan 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/28/00
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A. E. van Vogt dies.
Golden Age SF scribe meets
final Black Destroyer

van Vogt's Super Slan:
Science Fiction fans had their
tendrils on their can.

General Semantics
And Hubbard's Dianetics:
Lost mind more than once.

A great writer, but
one caught in amber; the field
Just moved beyond him.

van Vogt: "The right to
buy weapons is the right to
be free." Then as now.

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Matthew Hubbard

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Jan 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/28/00
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Lawrence Person wrote:

>
> van Vogt: "The right to
> buy weapons is the right to
> be free." Then as now.

Freedom, Hegel said,
is a moral sense in tune
with society's laws.

I'll take Hegel over van Vogt any day,
MattH

Avram Grumer

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Jan 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/28/00
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Here's a new idea!
Nine hundred more words go by --
Look, here's another!

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If music be the food of love, then some of it be the Twinkies of
dysfunctional relationships.

Matthew Hubbard

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Nancy Lebovitz wrote:
>
> In article <38923379...@crl.com>,

> Matthew Hubbard <leof...@crl.com> wrote:
> >Lawrence Person wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> van Vogt: "The right to
> >> buy weapons is the right to
> >> be free." Then as now.
> >
> > Freedom, Hegel said,
> > is a moral sense in tune
> > with society's laws.
>
> Did Hegel mean the particular society one is living in or some
> reasonable guess about what any society would need or what?

I'm sorry, but all
debate and comments must be
put in haiku form.

Hegel's freedom means
your personal code and _your_
land's laws are the same.

MattH

Nancy Lebovitz

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Jan 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/29/00
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In article <38923379...@crl.com>,
Matthew Hubbard <leof...@crl.com> wrote:
>Lawrence Person wrote:
>
>>
>> van Vogt: "The right to
>> buy weapons is the right to
>> be free." Then as now.
>
> Freedom, Hegel said,
> is a moral sense in tune
> with society's laws.

Did Hegel mean the particular society one is living in or some reasonable
guess about what any society would need or what?
>

>I'll take Hegel over van Vogt any day,

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Patrick Nielsen Hayden

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Is SF merely
Teenage power fantasies?
"Ask the next question."


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Patrick Nielsen Hayden

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Damon Knight tagged him
as Cosmic Jerrybuilder
But we still read him.

Straining for our own
Cortico-thalamic pause
Null-A satori

Proving ourselves, finally,
To be fit and ready to
Rule the sevagram.

Jo Walton

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Jan 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/29/00
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Lightning flash lightspeed
under torchlit bedcovers
what worlds we knew then!

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Martin Wisse

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On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:42:18 GMT, J...@bluejo.demon.co.uk (Jo Walton)
wrote:

>Lightning flash lightspeed
>under torchlit bedcovers
>what worlds we knew then!

Dwarf writing on
giant typewriter? No!
Just good old pulpy fun!

Martin Wisse

T. Troy McNemar

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Jan 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/29/00
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Differences in fans,
Some of us don't know van Vogt.
So, why the haikus?

--
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"What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?"
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David M. Palmer

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In article <38923379...@crl.com>, Matthew Hubbard
<leof...@crl.com> wrote:

> Lawrence Person wrote:
>
> >
> > van Vogt: "The right to
> > buy weapons is the right to
> > be free." Then as now.
>
> Freedom, Hegel said,
> is a moral sense in tune
> with society's laws.

Huckleberry Finn,
morals in conflict with laws,
will never be free.

Simon van Dongen

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Jan 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/30/00
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On or about 29 Jan 2000 00:50:20 GMT, Nancy Lebovitz wrote:

>In article <38923379...@crl.com>,
>Matthew Hubbard <leof...@crl.com> wrote:
>>Lawrence Person wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> van Vogt: "The right to
>>> buy weapons is the right to
>>> be free." Then as now.
>>
>> Freedom, Hegel said,
>> is a moral sense in tune
>> with society's laws.
>

>Did Hegel mean the particular society one is living in or some reasonable
>guess about what any society would need or what?

Mostly, Hegel meant the particular society *he* was living in. 19th
century Prussia. Hey, if they gave him a professorate, they must be
pretty near perfect.

>>I'll take Hegel over van Vogt any day,

You're welcome to him.

--
Simon van Dongen <sg...@xs4all.nl> Rotterdam, The Netherlands
'My doctor says I have a malformed public duty gland and a
natural deficiency in moral fibre,' he muttered to himself,
'and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes.'
Life, the universe and everything

Eric Berge

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Jan 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/30/00
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:28:15 -0700, T. Troy McNemar <Tr...@McNemar.com>
wrote:

>Differences in fans,
>Some of us don't know van Vogt.
>So, why the haikus?

Really? Go read
"Dark Destroyer" or "Null-A".
(Haiku, I don't know).

(The proper plural form of "haiku" is "haiku", it being a Japanese
word)
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Scott Taylor

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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Jo Walton <J...@bluejo.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<949182...@bluejo.demon.co.uk>...

> Lightning flash lightspeed
> under torchlit bedcovers
> what worlds we knew then!

Simple haiku formed
Jo Walton explains clearly
pain and joy alike

Worlds far yet near
The future and past are one
Childhood joys return

--
Scott Taylor
Freelancer for Hire
Have Powerbook, Will Travel

R. Byers

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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A shaken Rome wept.
Ah, teen power mask annuls
Promethean wakes.

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David Joseph Greenbaum

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Feb 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/1/00
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Unread shelved Van Vogt,
Nine foot-years above the floor.
Now is time to read.

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Ahasuerus

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Feb 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/1/00
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Oh, no, not haiku(s)!
Seventeen words for Van is
Seven-eight-three short!

--
Ahasuerus

David Joseph Greenbaum

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Feb 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/1/00
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In a fit of divine composition,
<ahas...@not-for-mail.org> inscribed
upon fleeting electrons:

>Oh, no, not haiku(s)!
>Seventeen words for Van is
>Seven-eight-three short!

Long time no hear! Wie gehts?

Ahasuerus

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In rec.arts.sf.written David Joseph Greenbaum <dj...@cornell.edu> wrote:
> Long time no hear! Wie gehts?

I have been fiendishly busy lately. So many conceptual breakthroughs to
make, so many wars to start, it's not even funny...

Um. We *are* talking about van Vogt, right? :)

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Ahasuerus

All hail Dick Armey, The New Republic's Man of the Millennium!

P.D. TILLMAN

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Is someone collecting these? I'd suggest forwarding the
collxn to Locus < lo...@locusmag.com > for their obituary.

There have been some nice ones. Thanks, all.

Cheers -- Pete Tillman
Book Reviews: http://www.silcom.com/~manatee/reviewer.html#tillman

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Michael Caldwell

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Feb 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/2/00
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Eric Berge wrote in message ...

>On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:28:15 -0700, T. Troy McNemar <Tr...@McNemar.com>
>wrote:

>>Differences in fans,
>>Some of us don't know van Vogt.
>>So, why the haikus?


And some who know him
fail to recognise what is
called his genius.

>Really? Go read
>"Dark Destroyer" or "Null-A".
>(Haiku, I don't know).

Any time is time
for ammusing haiku fun,
he said while counting.

>(The proper plural form of "haiku" is "haiku", it being a Japanese
>word)

Cue the Godzilla song for remembering Japanese plurals -

Ooooooo, One godzilla, two godzilla, three godzilla, four;
five godzilla rising from the murky ocean floor.

--
"My hovercraft is full of eels".

David Joseph Greenbaum

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Feb 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/2/00
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In a fit of divine composition, Ahasuerus inscribed
in fleeting electrons:

>I have been fiendishly busy lately. So many conceptual
>breakthroughs to make, so many wars to start, it's not
>even funny...

I'll bet. Continuing on into the future saga - I've deeply
immersed myself in late-19th, early 20th century German/Austrian
fiction and literature - early 20th extending to ~1930, with
Joseph Roth.

>Um. We *are* talking about van Vogt, right? :)

Apparently he died. I still have the Weapon Shops of Isher
and the Something of Null-A on my shelf, fresh from when I got
them surplus from my Boy Scout volunteering. Nine years is too
little - more like thirteen. But that didn't scan.

--
Dave G
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was nicht |Ein Unmoegliche Tatsache/The LTI Homepage
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