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William George Ferguson

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Feb 16, 2010, 11:41:55 PM2/16/10
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Is up on the LiveJournal blog page at
http://girlgeniuscomic.livejournal.com/

You might want to go there even if it's late enough to be up on the regular
site. The thumbnail pretty much says it all :)

Although it's pointed out in the blog followups that this technically meets
the Jaeger definition of a 'Bad Plan'.

--
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
(Bene Gesserit)

Dorothy J Heydt

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Feb 17, 2010, 12:03:00 AM2/17/10
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In article <vmsmn5hi119iqdlte...@4ax.com>,

William George Ferguson <wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>Is up on the LiveJournal blog page at
>http://girlgeniuscomic.livejournal.com/
>
>You might want to go there even if it's late enough to be up on the regular
>site. The thumbnail pretty much says it all :)
>
>Although it's pointed out in the blog followups that this technically meets
>the Jaeger definition of a 'Bad Plan'.

Higgs hasn't *lost* his hat. It's somewhere around his feet
there. He'll retrieve it once he settles Otilia.

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Paul Ciszek

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Feb 17, 2010, 12:37:07 AM2/17/10
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In article <KxyzD...@kithrup.com>,

Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com> wrote:
>In article <vmsmn5hi119iqdlte...@4ax.com>,
>William George Ferguson <wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>Is up on the LiveJournal blog page at
>>http://girlgeniuscomic.livejournal.com/
>>
>>You might want to go there even if it's late enough to be up on the regular
>>site. The thumbnail pretty much says it all :)
>>
>>Although it's pointed out in the blog followups that this technically meets
>>the Jaeger definition of a 'Bad Plan'.
>
>Higgs hasn't *lost* his hat. It's somewhere around his feet
>there. He'll retrieve it once he settles Otilia.

Besides, he isn't a Jaeger. Though I think the Jaegers would be proud
of him right now.

BTW, did the Baron or Dr. Sun use some of their fiendish quick-healing
techniques on Higgs? Because, unlike Gil, he hasn't had the prerequisite
biochemical work done.


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Pedro Dias

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Feb 17, 2010, 12:53:11 AM2/17/10
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Am I the only one going "WTF?!?" here? Cause last time this model was
tested to failure, he did *not* appear able to withstand being shoved
through six-to-eight inches of solid stone.

Jes' sayin'.

Robert A. Woodward

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Feb 17, 2010, 1:02:40 AM2/17/10
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In article <vmsmn5hi119iqdlte...@4ax.com>,
William George Ferguson <wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote:

> Is up on the LiveJournal blog page at
> http://girlgeniuscomic.livejournal.com/
>
> You might want to go there even if it's late enough to be up on the regular
> site. The thumbnail pretty much says it all :)
>
> Although it's pointed out in the blog followups that this technically meets
> the Jaeger definition of a 'Bad Plan'.

He might be loosing his hat, but that is not losing it

--
Robert Woodward <robe...@drizzle.com>
<http://www.drizzle.com/~robertaw>

Dorothy J Heydt

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Feb 17, 2010, 1:22:39 AM2/17/10
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In article <hlfva3$6i5$2...@reader2.panix.com>,

Paul Ciszek <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>In article <KxyzD...@kithrup.com>,
>Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>In article <vmsmn5hi119iqdlte...@4ax.com>,
>>William George Ferguson <wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>>Is up on the LiveJournal blog page at
>>>http://girlgeniuscomic.livejournal.com/
>>>
>>>You might want to go there even if it's late enough to be up on the regular
>>>site. The thumbnail pretty much says it all :)
>>>
>>>Although it's pointed out in the blog followups that this technically meets
>>>the Jaeger definition of a 'Bad Plan'.
>>
>>Higgs hasn't *lost* his hat. It's somewhere around his feet
>>there. He'll retrieve it once he settles Otilia.
>
>Besides, he isn't a Jaeger. Though I think the Jaegers would be proud
>of him right now.
>
>BTW, did the Baron or Dr. Sun use some of their fiendish quick-healing
>techniques on Higgs? Because, unlike Gil, he hasn't had the prerequisite
>biochemical work done.

Dunno. But we meet him for the first time (not counting
backstory) in Mamma Gkika's, so if there were any injuries
remaining on him, she could've fixed it.

Quadibloc

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Feb 17, 2010, 6:19:02 AM2/17/10
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On Feb 16, 11:02 pm, "Robert A. Woodward" <rober...@drizzle.com>
wrote:

> He might be loosing his hat, but that is not losing it

I don't expect Higgs' hat to join the attack on Otilia.

John Savard

Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Feb 17, 2010, 7:09:40 AM2/17/10
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William George Ferguson wrote:
> Is up on the LiveJournal blog page at
> http://girlgeniuscomic.livejournal.com/
>
> You might want to go there even if it's late enough to be up on the regular
> site. The thumbnail pretty much says it all :)
>
> Although it's pointed out in the blog followups that this technically meets
> the Jaeger definition of a 'Bad Plan'.
>

I don't think it's Jaegerdraught. Higgs shows none of the Hulkoid
characteristics of the Draught; even Gil has shown some strange quirks.

I think he's something else -- a construct, possibly a Heterodyne or
other Spark in disguise, or just the Last Competent Man-At-Arms from the
planet Krypton.

--
Sea Wasp
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Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Feb 17, 2010, 7:12:00 AM2/17/10
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We don't actually KNOW that. There was only one witness to any of it
besides Higgs, and she was not there to see exactly what happened in any
other part of it.

The entire story comes from HIGGS. And if he doesn't/didn't want people
knowing there was more to him, he would simply tell the story in a way
that didn't admit to anything more than someone else SAW.

The described story was **ALWAYS** clearly a ludicrous tale. It was
always clear to me that there was Something Left Out or covered up.

Now we know.

J. Clarke

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Feb 17, 2010, 7:40:27 AM2/17/10
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Hmm--how would the GG version of Oddjob's hat work?

Quadibloc

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Feb 17, 2010, 9:01:44 AM2/17/10
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I just remember the damage Jethro's version of Oddjob's hat did to the
statuary out by the cement pond...

John Savard

Paul Ciszek

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Feb 17, 2010, 9:53:18 AM2/17/10
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In article <hlgmeg$s1l$3...@news.eternal-september.org>,

You think Higgs has a boson or two up his sleeve?

J. Clarke

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Feb 17, 2010, 9:42:54 AM2/17/10
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Not to mention the damage it did to Jethro.

David DeLaney

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Feb 17, 2010, 6:35:38 AM2/17/10
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Perhaps when they repaired him, they used the GOOD suturing?

>Jes' sayin'.

Dave "it's no good fixing someone if you just have to turn around and re-fix
them the next week, you see" DeLaney
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Robert Carnegie

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Feb 17, 2010, 3:57:56 PM2/17/10
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I call dibs on him being Bill Heterodyne himself in disguise.

Y'know, let's make it interesting.

Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Feb 17, 2010, 6:21:40 PM2/17/10
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I believe I covered that in my earlier post.

Pedro Dias

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Feb 17, 2010, 9:30:27 PM2/17/10
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On Feb 17, 7:12 am, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"

<seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
> Pedro Dias wrote:
> > Am I the only one going "WTF?!?" here? Cause last time this model was
> > tested to failure, he did *not* appear able to withstand being shoved
> > through six-to-eight inches of solid stone.
>
>         We don't actually KNOW that. There was only one witness to any of it
> besides Higgs, and she was not there to see exactly what happened in any
> other part of it.
>
>         The entire story comes from HIGGS. And if he doesn't/didn't want people
> knowing there was more to him, he would simply tell the story in a way
> that didn't admit to anything more than someone else SAW.
>
>         The described story was **ALWAYS** clearly a ludicrous tale. It was
> always clear to me that there was Something Left Out or covered up.

Well, no: DuPree, while conscious, was clearly non compus mentis, and
so I suppose she may or may not remember (repeatedly) attacking Higgs.
But the adventure was described to Gil by Dr. Sun, and one would think
he's in a position to know, if not directly at least from staff
reports, about the reality of the various injuries. You know, two
broken arms, a broken leg and an infected bite. All of which would
seem to indicate that he is, you know - *breakable*. Or rather, that
he *was* breakable, which is the only fact about the adventure with
any bearing on the present discussion.

serg271

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Feb 18, 2010, 2:27:34 AM2/18/10
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On Feb 18, 1:21 am, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
Could he be owner of the Higgs Boson, which is, as everyone know is
god's particle?

serg271

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Feb 18, 2010, 2:28:45 AM2/18/10
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On Feb 18, 1:21 am, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"

Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Feb 18, 2010, 7:57:22 AM2/18/10
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There's breakable, and breakable. What broke him before could have been
something more formidable than Otilia.

Leif Roar Moldskred

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Feb 18, 2010, 8:24:50 AM2/18/10
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Pedro Dias <pedr...@snip.net> wrote:

> Well, no: DuPree, while conscious, was clearly non compus mentis, and
> so I suppose she may or may not remember (repeatedly) attacking Higgs.

Then again, DuPree is -- perhaps conveniently so -- not able to say
much at the moment.

--
Leif Roar Moldskred

J. Clarke

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Feb 18, 2010, 9:13:31 AM2/18/10
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Hmm. "Infected bite". Infected with _what_?

Pedro Dias

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Feb 18, 2010, 10:52:08 AM2/18/10
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DuPree bit him. Human bites often get infected because we're such
feelthy feelthy animals.

Pedro Dias

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Feb 18, 2010, 10:59:22 AM2/18/10
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On Feb 18, 7:57 am, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"

Meaning something more violent than getting shoved through six-to-
eight inches of stone wall - much more, since in this instance he
dusts himself off and appears not to even have had the breath knocked
out of him, let alone a cracked rib.

I suppose it's possible something happened aboard the dirigible that
a) was enormously more violent than Kestle-Otilia, and b) left no
evidence of itself other than Higgs' injuries. But I'm not gonna
pretend I like that big a misdirect from the authors.

J. Clarke

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Feb 18, 2010, 11:57:34 AM2/18/10
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I think you've misunderstood the question.

Joel Polowin

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Feb 18, 2010, 12:42:41 PM2/18/10
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On Feb 18, 10:59 am, Pedro Dias <pedrod...@snip.net> wrote:
> On Feb 18, 7:57 am, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
> > There's breakable, and breakable. What broke him before could have been
> > something more formidable than Otilia.
>
> Meaning something more violent than getting shoved through six-to-
> eight inches of stone wall - much more, since in this instance he
> dusts himself off and appears not to even have had the breath knocked
> out of him, let alone a cracked rib.
>
> I suppose it's possible something happened aboard the dirigible that
> a) was enormously more violent than Kestle-Otilia, and b) left no
> evidence of itself other than Higgs' injuries. But I'm not gonna
> pretend I like that big a misdirect from the authors.

It appears to me that Higgs currently has some ability to affect
the flow of time in his personal space. If he speeds himself up
enormously compared to his environment, he can do the not-being-there
trick when someone takes a swing at him; if something does connect,
he can make the impact seem to occur over a much longer time, giving
forces that his body can withstand. From his point of view, the
stone wall would seem soft; to the rest of the world, his body would
seem incredibly rigid.

But he has to consciously engage the ability, so he can be hit if
he's taken by surprise. And we don't know how long he's been able
to do this trick, and we don't know if it's a personal ability or
if it's because of some device he's picked up.

Dorothy J Heydt

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Feb 18, 2010, 12:20:42 PM2/18/10
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In article <hljit...@news2.newsguy.com>,

He was bitten by DuPree, whom in the absence of any evidence to
the contrary, we may as well consider human.

Here's a (probably partial) list of what he could've been
infected with.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/218901-overview

Wayne Throop

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Feb 18, 2010, 1:34:13 PM2/18/10
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: Leif Roar Moldskred <le...@huldreheim.homelinux.org>
: Then again, DuPree is -- perhaps conveniently so -- not able to say
: much at the moment.

What, did something happen to her after she yells about Klaus?
http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20091221


Wayne Throop thr...@sheol.org http://sheol.org/throopw

J. Clarke

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Feb 18, 2010, 2:03:39 PM2/18/10
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Geez, you're all so serious. This is the GGverse. The potential infections
have to go far beyond what mere non-mad modern science has enumerated.

Dorothy J Heydt

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Feb 18, 2010, 2:47:47 PM2/18/10
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In article <hlk4g...@news5.newsguy.com>,

Agreed. I said that list was probably partial. You could go on
adding to it ... for quite some time.

Leif Roar Moldskred

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Feb 18, 2010, 4:55:15 PM2/18/10
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Wayne Throop <thr...@sheol.org> wrote:
>
> What, did something happen to her after she yells about Klaus?
> http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20091221

Ack. No, just my memory being faulty. I thought she still had her
jaw wired shut.

--
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Pedro Dias

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Feb 19, 2010, 12:01:03 AM2/19/10
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Oh? I'm afraid my comprehension hasn't improved any in the intervening
time. Elucidation?

J. Clarke

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Feb 19, 2010, 12:27:56 AM2/19/10
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The question is not how he came to be infected, but with what, specific,
horrendous organism unique to the Girl Genius universe, like, for example,
one that makes him become invulnerable?

David DeLaney

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Feb 18, 2010, 8:23:10 PM2/18/10
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Pedro Dias <pedr...@snip.net> wrote:

>"J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Hmm. �"Infected bite". �Infected with _what_?
>
>DuPree bit him. Human bites often get infected because we're such
>feelthy feelthy animals.

Well, that and the fact that humans are what the germs that can infect
humans live inside, after all.

Dave

Dorothy J Heydt

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Feb 19, 2010, 10:44:14 AM2/19/10
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In article <hll7l...@news1.newsguy.com>,

Oh, I see. You're thinking that the change in Higgs, from
moderately vulnerable (though fairly invincible) to practically
invulnerable, may be the result of the bite. Well, we'll see.

Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Feb 19, 2010, 12:19:08 PM2/19/10
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He was bitten by a radioactive Klaus.

Bill Snyder

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Feb 19, 2010, 12:53:57 PM2/19/10
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No, by a crazy Klaus ('cause we all know there ain't no sanity
Klaus.)

--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]

Quadibloc

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Feb 19, 2010, 8:32:53 PM2/19/10
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Well, he was bitten by Bang, actually... and, yes, she is definitely
crazy. Radioactive (like the spider...)... now, that's another story.

John Savard

Wayne Throop

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Feb 19, 2010, 9:32:19 PM2/19/10
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::: He was bitten by a radioactive Klaus.

:: No, by a crazy Klaus ('cause we all know there ain't no sanity Klaus.)

: Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>
: Well, he was bitten by Bang, actually... and, yes, she is definitely


: crazy. Radioactive (like the spider...)... now, that's another story.

Your tracks today are "Radioactive" by The Firm,
and "Pocket Full of Kryptonite" (aka Jimmy Olson Blues) by Spin Doctors.

Got to concentrate - don't be distractive
Turn me loose tonight - I'm radioactive

So, Higgs has been turned loose. And as we see, he needs to concentrate,
lest he be distracted and mashed in the face. Hopefully he also has
a pocketful of muse-kryptonite.

Mad Hamish

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Feb 20, 2010, 7:24:04 AM2/20/10
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:23:10 -0500, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David
DeLaney) wrote:

>Pedro Dias <pedr...@snip.net> wrote:
>>"J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> Hmm.  "Infected bite".  Infected with _what_?
>>
>>DuPree bit him. Human bites often get infected because we're such
>>feelthy feelthy animals.
>
>Well, that and the fact that humans are what the germs that can infect
>humans live inside, after all.
>

apparently it's more to do with the fact that most injuries from human
teeth aren't bites but result from punches which cause different
wounds to the puncher than they'd get from a bite.
--
"Hope is replaced by fear and dreams by survival, most of us get by."
Stuart Adamson 1958-2001

Mad Hamish
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Gene Wirchenko

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Feb 20, 2010, 6:15:52 PM2/20/10
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On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:44:14 GMT, djh...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:

>In article <hll7l...@news1.newsguy.com>,

[snip]

>>The question is not how he came to be infected, but with what, specific,
>>horrendous organism unique to the Girl Genius universe, like, for example,
>>one that makes him become invulnerable?
>
>Oh, I see. You're thinking that the change in Higgs, from
>moderately vulnerable (though fairly invincible) to practically
>invulnerable, may be the result of the bite. Well, we'll see.

Shall we start eliminating possibilities? I will have first go.

Radioactive spider has been done.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Robert Carnegie

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Feb 20, 2010, 6:27:01 PM2/20/10
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Wikipedia says that Ultra Boy in "Legion of Superheroes", real name Jo
Nah, was swallowed (in his spaceship) by an "ultra-energy space
whale", exposed to radiation, and acquired voluntary invulnerability
as well as other powers.

I just picked him as "What fictional character can I think of who is
sometimes invulnerable".

But there's precedent for miniaturised animals in Girl Genius...
maybe Higgs has swallowed that fish in a bowl that Gil had around all
the time, and it's more than it seems. (Does that make more sense in
reverse order?) I think it had the similarly biblical name of
Ahasuerus.

Another, oh and also biblical-named, precedent for that sort of thing,
kind'a, is Douglas Adams's "Babel Fish".

Konrad Gaertner

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Feb 20, 2010, 7:29:39 PM2/20/10
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Robert Carnegie wrote:
>
> But there's precedent for miniaturised animals in Girl Genius...
> maybe Higgs has swallowed that fish in a bowl that Gil had around all
> the time, and it's more than it seems. (Does that make more sense in
> reverse order?) I think it had the similarly biblical name of
> Ahasuerus.

Carassius Auratus (named on the back cover of issue #6).


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Dorothy J Heydt

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Feb 20, 2010, 7:48:43 PM2/20/10
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In article <4B807E73...@tx.rr.com>,

Konrad Gaertner <kgae...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>Robert Carnegie wrote:
>>
>> But there's precedent for miniaturised animals in Girl Genius...
>> maybe Higgs has swallowed that fish in a bowl that Gil had around all
>> the time, and it's more than it seems. (Does that make more sense in
>> reverse order?) I think it had the similarly biblical name of
>> Ahasuerus.
>
>Carassius Auratus (named on the back cover of issue #6).

That's his species name. "Golden Carp." Goldfish, in other
words.

Mind you, if Gil had decided to call his individual fish by his
species name, he could've. He's mad, after all.

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