What did he do wrong?

[The Starmaker]

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/secret-service/aaron-swartz-evidence-657901

[The Starmaker]

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/secret-service/aaron-swartz-evidence-657901

http://www.france24.com/en/20130113-suicide-internet-prodigy-stokes-activist-anger

[The Starmaker]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-12/aaron-swartz-programmer-turned-activist-dies-at-26-nyt-says.html



I notice, you 'science people' *force* the world to buy a computer, ...then
you don't tell what to do with it.


I know people who are considered "good people", who have a computer but never use it.


How do you get "good people", people who don't want to hurt anyone, harm anyone, not
even say a bad word to anyone, to use a computer? Or even go on the Internet?

You tell these 'good people', "You'll need a virus protection progam." and they ask..

"What for?"


You cannot answer that question without scaring the hell out of them!



What did he do wrong? I think maybe he just got bored and wanted to do something fun and exciting...
i mean they did say

"He was planning to make the material public at no cost."
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/secret-service/aaron-swartz-evidence-657901



Doesn't sound like stealing to me....more like, ...sharing. Are they going to make "sharing" a crime now?


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/reddit_co_founder_commits_suicide_AZPHGFSHzBRrOHbx2yGM9O


The Starmaker

[The Starmaker]

i know if four girls share a taxi cab...that's not a crime that i know
of, or
if they share the bill at a resturant.

I think what killed this aaron swartz guy was the Internet. The Internet
is a organism that forced
aaron swartz to...share.

He went to the basement wiring closet and connected his laptop and
external hard drive directly to a network switch.

Now what made him do that? The Internet! The Internet is a
organism....that...wishes to be free.

So, the internet forced aaron swartz to
go to the basement
connected his laptop and external hard drive directly to a network
switch.

aaron swartz is connected to the Internet, and the Internet connected
itself to
whatever it wants.

In the future, the machines will run the world.


The proscecuter got the wrong guy.

They need to arrest The Internet.

Not Piratesbay or Megaupload, but the whole Internet!

(and you know who started that stuff)


The bottem line is...
the whole universe
is run by a machine.

Would you like to see what the machine looks like that runs the
universe?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNJSVrLEjg8


The Starmaker



Is Stephen Hawking man or machine? When he talks, it's a machine that
talks...a brain in a machine.

[Hetware]

On 1/13/2013 5:10 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/secret-service/aaron-swartz-evidence-657901
>

to quote Ben Kramer: "He pissed off the Yids". IOW, he did something
contrary to the interests of the Zionazis.

If you don't know what a Zionazi is, or don't believe it is a proper
characterization of Zionazis, please see:
http://vehme.blogspot.com/2007/12/zionism-is-grave-threat-to-us-national.html

And more on the Zionazi founder:

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story640.html

[The Starmaker]

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/secret-service/aaron-swartz-evidence-657901
> > >
> > > http://www.france24.com/en/20130113-suicide-internet-prodigy-stokes-activist-anger
> >
> > http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-12/aaron-swartz-programmer-turned-activist-dies-at-26-nyt-says.html
> >
> > I notice, you 'science people' *force* the world to buy a computer, ...then
> > you don't tell what to do with it.
> >
> > I know people who are considered "good people", who have a computer but never use it.
> >
> > How do you get "good people", people who don't want to hurt anyone, harm anyone, not
> > even say a bad word to anyone, to use a computer? Or even go on the Internet?
> >
> > You tell these 'good people', "You'll need a virus protection progam." and they ask..
> >
> > "What for?"
> >
> > You cannot answer that question without scaring the hell out of them!
> >
> > What did he do wrong? I think maybe he just got bored and wanted to do something fun and exciting...
> > i mean they did say
> >
> > "He was planning to make the material public at no cost."
> > http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/secret-service/aaron-swartz-evidence-657901
> >
> > Doesn't sound like stealing to me....more like, ...sharing. Are they going to make "sharing" a crime now?
> >
> > http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/reddit_co_founder_commits_suicide_AZPHGFSHzBRrOHbx2yGM9O
> >
> > The Starmaker

> The bottem line is...
> the whole universe
> is run by a machine.

The 'machine' controls things like snow flakes design, and which way time moves..it pushes time
in a certaint direction.

>
> Would you like to see what the machine looks like that runs the
> universe?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNJSVrLEjg8
>
> The Starmaker
>
> Is Stephen Hawking man or machine? When he talks, it's a machine that
> talks...a brain in a machine.

If you disconnet all the machines and computer from Stephen Hawking, what do you got?


Probably, they took all of aaron-swartz computers from him. That's his life-support system.
They say he didn't leave a suicide note...he had nothing to write it with! They took his computer!!

[The Starmaker]

I know you people in the 'scientific community' don't wish to discuss this aaron-swartz thing because ...
YOU DO THIS STUFF EVERYDAY!!!!

I better check the basement, one of yous might be there now!

[Michael Moroney]

The Starmaker wrote:

>The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>> >
>> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> > >
>> > > The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > >

>> > > > The Starmaker wrote:

Enjoy talking to yourself?

[The Starmaker]

i need some 'basement protection software'...to keep hackers out..


I have millions of academic journal articles...

The Starmaker


Who reads that stuff?

[The Starmaker]

wats he doing?
http://latitudenews.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/RTR3CENK.jpg

[The Starmaker]

I don't get it
http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdfreader/10.7560/723153.5

This is what he killed himself for? academic journal articles??


This is insane!

[thepinkpantsuit]

On Jan 16, 9:07 pm, The Starmaker <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>
> > The Starmaker wrote:
>
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
>
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
>
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
>
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
>
> > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
>

> > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/secret-service/aaron-swartz-evide...
>
> > > > > > > >http://www.france24.com/en/20130113-suicide-internet-prodigy-stokes-a...
>
> > > > > > >http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-12/aaron-swartz-programmer-turn...

>
> > > > > > > I notice, you 'science people' *force* the world to buy a computer, ...then
> > > > > > > you don't tell what to do with it.
>
> > > > > > > I know people who are considered "good people", who have a computer but never use it.
>
> > > > > > > How do you get "good people", people who don't want to hurt anyone, harm anyone, not
> > > > > > > even say a bad word to anyone,  to use a computer? Or even go on the Internet?
>
> > > > > > > You tell these 'good people', "You'll need a virus protection progam." and they ask..
>
> > > > > > > "What for?"
>
> > > > > > > You cannot answer that question without scaring the hell out of them!
>
> > > > > > > What did he do wrong? I think maybe he just got bored and wanted to do something fun and exciting...
> > > > > > > i mean they did say
>
> > > > > > > "He was planning to make the material public at no cost."

> > > > > > >http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/secret-service/aaron-swartz-evide...

>
> > > > > > > Doesn't sound like stealing to me....more like, ...sharing. Are they going to make "sharing" a crime now?
>

> > > > > > >http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/reddit_co_founder_commits...

>
> > > > > > > The Starmaker
>
> > > > > > The bottem line is...
> > > > > > the whole universe
> > > > > > is run by a machine.
>
> > > > > The 'machine' controls things like snow flakes design, and which way time moves..it pushes time
> > > > > in a certaint direction.
>
> > > > > > Would you like to see what the machine looks like that runs the
> > > > > > universe?
> > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNJSVrLEjg8
>
> > > > > > The Starmaker
>
> > > > > > Is Stephen Hawking man or machine? When he talks, it's a machine that
> > > > > > talks...a brain in a machine.
>
> > > > > If you disconnet all the machines and computer from Stephen Hawking, what do you got?
>
> > > > > Probably, they took all of aaron-swartz computers from him. That's his life-support system.
> > > > > They say he didn't leave a suicide note...he had nothing to write it with! They took his computer!!
>
> > > > I know you people in the 'scientific community' don't wish to discuss this aaron-swartz thing because ...
> > > > YOU DO THIS STUFF EVERYDAY!!!!
>
> > > > I better check the basement, one of yous might be there now!
>
> > > i need some 'basement protection software'...to keep hackers out..
>
> > > I have millions of academic journal articles...
>
> > > The Starmaker
>
> > > Who reads that stuff?
>
> > wats he doing?

> >http://latitudenews.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/0...
>
> I don't get ithttp://www.jstor.org/stable/pdfreader/10.7560/723153.5

>
> This is what he killed himself for? academic journal articles??
>
> This is insane!

Sure. That's why they don't like facts here. And people can barely
post so he had to create a new spot.

[thepinkpantsuit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michio_Kaku

For instance, no one here knows the Harvard/Princeton guy. Good thing
you can look it up, eh? Because if you couldn't, they'd have you
believe he's an astronomer. But he's cum laude in physics. And,
according to sources next door, everyone hates Hillary.

[Casper]

>Enjoy talking to yourself?
>Michael Moroney

Shhhh! I was just starting to enjoy the Golem/Smeagol conversation!

[The Starmaker]

She said they told Mr. Swartz's lawyers they would seek a sentence of
six months "in a low-security setting" if he pleaded guilty.

"At no time did this office ever seek—or ever tell Mr. Swartz's
attorneys that it intended to seek—maximum penalties under the law," Ms.
Ortiz said in a statement released late Wednesday.

[The Starmaker]

Now why would anyone hang themselves after being told they would get

"six months "in a low-security setting" deal ?

[The Starmaker]

Since the media are too afraid to ask the right questions..
My conclusion is:

He hanged himself because he thought he would have to do many years (seven or more), and his lawyers *simply* didn't tell
him about the 'six months "in a low-security setting" deal'.

You know like..."Oops, we forgot to tell him!" "Too late..."


The Starmaker

[Greg Goss]

The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>My conclusion is:
>
>He hanged himself because he thought he would have to do many years (seven or more), and his lawyers *simply* didn't tell
>him about the 'six months "in a low-security setting" deal'.
>
>You know like..."Oops, we forgot to tell him!" "Too late..."

My conclusion is that he wouldn't take the plea bargain on principle
reasons. "Plead guilty? I'm not guilty of theft of anything." But
then couldn't face the years and years they'd throw at him if he
didn't surrender and bend over.
--
I used to own a mind like a steel trap.
Perhaps if I'd specified a brass one, it
wouldn't have rusted like this.

[Rod Speed]

Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote

> The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote

>> My conclusion is:

>> He hanged himself because he thought he would have to
>> do many years (seven or more), and his lawyers *simply* didn't
>> tell him about the 'six months "in a low-security setting" deal'.

>> You know like..."Oops, we forgot to tell him!" "Too late..."

> My conclusion is that he wouldn't take the plea bargain on principle
> reasons.

Likely not, but its also likely that it was the depression he
was known to be prone to the caused him to pull the plug.

> "Plead guilty? I'm not guilty of theft of anything."
> But then couldn't face the years and years they'd
> throw at him if he didn't surrender and bend over.

Its possible, but given the depression he was known to suffer from...

[Mahipal]

On Jan 21, 8:40 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote
>

> > The Starmaker <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote

> >> My conclusion is:
> >> He hanged himself because he thought he would have to
> >> do many years (seven or more), and his lawyers *simply* didn't
> >> tell him about the 'six months "in a low-security setting" deal'.
> >> You know like..."Oops, we forgot to tell him!" "Too late..."
> > My conclusion is that he wouldn't take the plea bargain on principle
> > reasons.
>
> Likely not, but its also likely that it was the depression he
> was known to be prone to the caused him to pull the plug.

Yes, that's the ticket, everyone in modern 2013 USA is either mentally
sick or severely depressed. This latest twist...

> > "Plead guilty?  I'm not guilty of theft of anything."
> > But then couldn't face the years and years they'd
> > throw at him if he didn't surrender and bend over.
>
> Its possible, but given the depression he was known to suffer from...

Its possible what?

[Rod Speed]

Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote

> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote
>>> The Starmaker <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote

>>>> My conclusion is:
>>>> He hanged himself because he thought he would have to
>>>> do many years (seven or more), and his lawyers *simply* didn't
>>>> tell him about the 'six months "in a low-security setting" deal'.
>>>> You know like..."Oops, we forgot to tell him!" "Too late..."

>>> My conclusion is that he wouldn't take the plea bargain on principle
>>> reasons.

>> Likely not, but its also likely that it was the depression he
>> was known to be prone to the caused him to pull the plug.

> Yes, that's the ticket, everyone in modern 2013 USA is either
> mentally sick or severely depressed. This latest twist...

Nope, just the ones stupid enough to kill themselves in that situation.

>>> "Plead guilty? I'm not guilty of theft of anything."
>>> But then couldn't face the years and years they'd
>>> throw at him if he didn't surrender and bend over.

>> Its possible, but given the depression he was known to suffer from...

> Its possible what?

Even you can't actually be THAT stupid.

[The Starmaker]

Rod Speed wrote:
>
> Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote
> >>> The Starmaker <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote
>
> >>>> My conclusion is:
> >>>> He hanged himself because he thought he would have to
> >>>> do many years (seven or more), and his lawyers *simply* didn't
> >>>> tell him about the 'six months "in a low-security setting" deal'.
> >>>> You know like..."Oops, we forgot to tell him!" "Too late..."
>
> >>> My conclusion is that he wouldn't take the plea bargain on principle
> >>> reasons.
>
> >> Likely not, but its also likely that it was the depression he
> >> was known to be prone to the caused him to pull the plug.
>
> > Yes, that's the ticket, everyone in modern 2013 USA is either
> > mentally sick or severely depressed. This latest twist...
>
> Nope, just the ones stupid enough to kill themselves in that situation.

It has nothing to do with stupidity...

People who kill themselves are simply just taking a road..
when they feel no other road is open to them.

Which I concluded, no other roads were mentioned to him.


The Starmaker

[Rod Speed]

"The Starmaker" <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:50FE2C...@ix.netcom.com...

> Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>> Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote
>> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote
>> >>> The Starmaker <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote
>>
>> >>>> My conclusion is:
>> >>>> He hanged himself because he thought he would have to
>> >>>> do many years (seven or more), and his lawyers *simply* didn't
>> >>>> tell him about the 'six months "in a low-security setting" deal'.
>> >>>> You know like..."Oops, we forgot to tell him!" "Too late..."
>>
>> >>> My conclusion is that he wouldn't take the plea bargain on principle
>> >>> reasons.
>>
>> >> Likely not, but its also likely that it was the depression he
>> >> was known to be prone to the caused him to pull the plug.
>>
>> > Yes, that's the ticket, everyone in modern 2013 USA is either
>> > mentally sick or severely depressed. This latest twist...
>>
>> Nope, just the ones stupid enough to kill themselves in that situation.

> It has nothing to do with stupidity...

It has everything to do with stupidity if that's why he killed himself
and it wasn't just a result of the depression he was prone to.

> People who kill themselves are simply just taking a road..
> when they feel no other road is open to them.

Yes, that can be true, but isnt when the individual
did it because of the depression he was prone to.

> Which I concluded, no other roads were mentioned to him.

Its very unlikely indeed that his legals never mentioned
a plea bargain to him. He may well have chose not to
go along with that, but its unlikely that he would have
got a very severe sentence even if he had insisted on
pleading not guilty and was convicted of what he was
charged with.

Its MUCH more likely it was the depression that killed him.

[Mahipal]

On Jan 21, 10:37 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote

>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote
> >>> The Starmaker <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote
> >>>> My conclusion is:
> >>>> He hanged himself because he thought he would have to
> >>>> do many years (seven or more), and his lawyers *simply* didn't
> >>>> tell him about the 'six months "in a low-security setting" deal'.
> >>>> You know like..."Oops, we forgot to tell him!" "Too late..."
> >>> My conclusion is that he wouldn't take the plea bargain on principle
> >>> reasons.
> >> Likely not, but its also likely that it was the depression he
> >> was known to be prone to the caused him to pull the plug.
> > Yes, that's the ticket, everyone in modern 2013 USA is either
> > mentally sick or severely depressed. This latest twist...
>
> Nope, just the ones stupid enough to kill themselves in that situation.

How did you learn to gauge another's depression? Did you know this
Aaron? Why no suicide note? Or is was there one and I just missed
reading of it? In any case, officially it's still an "apparent
suicide" afaik, even after reading Tom Potter's detailed post in this
thread.

Innocent conscious individuals would rather choose to die quickly,
than to suffer the indignity and embarrassment of 30 years of jail
time where suicide is not allowed, forcefully. Not allowed daily,
hourly, and by the tweet. Justice is blinder by the moment. I doubt
Aaron was depressed, he felt the weight of the zero intolerance law
for which he was being made an IP poster boy. The charges were dropped
by the plaintiffs?! Yet the State felt hurt? Aaron did the math, RIP
Swartz. No, I did not know Aaron and do not use RSS directly, but I
know modern lawyers and I remember being 26... Oy.

> >>> "Plead guilty?  I'm not guilty of theft of anything."
> >>> But then couldn't face the years and years they'd
> >>> throw at him if he didn't surrender and bend over.
> >> Its possible, but given the depression he was known to suffer from...
> > Its possible what?
>
> Even you can't actually be THAT stupid.

I can read only what is written.

"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its
limits." Albert Einstein

So actually, per Albert, and he knows best, one can be any measure of
THAT stupid amount. Do the math, and learn to write properly given
it's not even a tweet length line limited post.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/15/tech/web/aaron-swartz-internet/index.html


Enjo(y)... Cheers!
--
Mahipal, pronounced "My Pal" or "Maple" leads to... Maple Loops.

http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/
"If the line between science fiction and science fact doesn't drive
you crazy, then you're not tr(y)ing!"

[Rod Speed]

"Mahipal" <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:422713ad-5d3c-4719...@f4g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

> On Jan 21, 10:37 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote
>> >>> The Starmaker <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote
>> >>>> My conclusion is:
>> >>>> He hanged himself because he thought he would have to
>> >>>> do many years (seven or more), and his lawyers *simply* didn't
>> >>>> tell him about the 'six months "in a low-security setting" deal'.
>> >>>> You know like..."Oops, we forgot to tell him!" "Too late..."
>> >>> My conclusion is that he wouldn't take the plea bargain on principle
>> >>> reasons.
>> >> Likely not, but its also likely that it was the depression he
>> >> was known to be prone to the caused him to pull the plug.
>> > Yes, that's the ticket, everyone in modern 2013 USA is either
>> > mentally sick or severely depressed. This latest twist...
>>
>> Nope, just the ones stupid enough to kill themselves in that situation.

> How did you learn to gauge another's depression?

Don't need to, others did that with that individual.

> Did you know this Aaron?

Nope, but plenty of others did.

> Why no suicide note?

Plenty of suiciders don't bother with one.

> Or is was there one and I just missed reading of it?
> In any case, officially it's still an "apparent suicide" afaik,

So what ? The bureaucracy can take a long time to do that
sort of thing and doesn't always get that right either, particularly
when a result like that reflects badly on the bureaucracy.

> even after reading Tom Potter's detailed post in this thread.

> Innocent conscious individuals would rather choose to die quickly,
> than to suffer the indignity and embarrassment of 30 years of jail time

There was no possibility of him getting 30
years of jail time for the crime he did commit.

> where suicide is not allowed, forcefully.

That's even sillier.

> Not allowed daily, hourly, and by the tweet.

Even sillier.

> Justice is blinder by the moment. I doubt Aaron was depressed,

You have always been, and always will be, completely and
utterly irrelevant. What you may or may not doubt in spades.

> he felt the weight of the zero intolerance law
> for which he was being made an IP poster boy.

You don't know that either with the suicide.

> The charges were dropped by the plaintiffs?! Yet the State felt hurt?

It aint about hurt.

> Aaron did the math,

Like hell he did.

> RIP Swartz. No, I did not know Aaron and do
> not use RSS directly, but I know modern lawyers

Nope, not on that question of them not even bothering to
mention what the likely sentence would be when found guilty.

> and I remember being 26... Oy.

You have absolutely no idea about how he operated.

>>>>> "Plead guilty? I'm not guilty of theft of anything."
>>>>> But then couldn't face the years and years they'd
>>>>> throw at him if he didn't surrender and bend over.

>>>> Its possible, but given the depression he was known to suffer from...

>>> Its possible what?

>> Even you can't actually be THAT stupid.

> I can read only what is written.

Wrong, as always.

> "The difference between stupidity and genius
> is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein

He also stupidly claimed that god does not play dice with the universe.

Radioactive decay certainly does.

> So actually, per Albert, and he knows best,

Nope.

> one can be any measure of THAT stupid amount.

You certainly can.

> Do the math,

Use real numbers.

> and learn to write properly

Go and fuck yourself.

[Wayne Throop]

: "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com>
: You have always been, and always will be, completely and

: utterly irrelevant. What you may or may not doubt in spades.

Ah. So, much like you in this regard, then.

[Mahipal]

On Jan 22, 1:03 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Mahipal" <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:422713ad-5d3c-4719...@f4g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
[trim]

>
> > and I remember being 26... Oy.
>
> You have absolutely no idea about how he operated.

You, Rod, do know how he operated? I should've presumed.

> >>>>> "Plead guilty?  I'm not guilty of theft of anything."
> >>>>> But then couldn't face the years and years they'd
> >>>>> throw at him if he didn't surrender and bend over.
> >>>> Its possible, but given the depression he was known to suffer from...
> >>> Its possible what?
> >> Even you can't actually be THAT stupid.
> > I can read only what is written.
>
> Wrong, as always.

As always?! You know this, about me, how?

> > "The difference between stupidity and genius
> > is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein
>
> He also stupidly claimed that god does not play dice with the universe.
>
> Radioactive decay certainly does.
>
> > So actually, per Albert, and he knows best,
>
> Nope.
>
> > one can be any measure of THAT stupid amount.
>
> You certainly can.
>
> > Do the math,
>
> Use real numbers.
>
> > and learn to write properly
>
> Go and fuck yourself.

Sensitive much, Rod?

> > given it's not even a tweet length line limited post.

Rod Speed, more evidence of why not to interact with aliased trolls.

Leave other posters' writing intact. Intellectual property, subtext
here.

[Rod Speed]

Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote

> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote

>>> and I remember being 26... Oy.

>> You have absolutely no idea about how he operated.

> You, Rod, do know how he operated?

I wasn't the one mindlessly rabitting on about remembering being 26.

>>>>>>> "Plead guilty? I'm not guilty of theft of anything."
>>>>>>> But then couldn't face the years and years they'd
>>>>>>> throw at him if he didn't surrender and bend over.

>>>>>> Its possible, but given the depression he was known to suffer from...

>>>>> Its possible what?

>>>> Even you can't actually be THAT stupid.

>>> I can read only what is written.

>> Wrong, as always.

> As always?!

Yep, as always.

> You know this, about me, how?

By reading your shit.

>>> "The difference between stupidity and genius
>>> is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein

>> He also stupidly claimed that god does not play dice with the universe.

>> Radioactive decay certainly does.

>>> So actually, per Albert, and he knows best,

>> Nope.

>>> one can be any measure of THAT stupid amount.

>> You certainly can.

>>> Do the math,

>> Use real numbers.

>> > and learn to write properly

>> Go and fuck yourself.

> Sensitive much, Rod?

Nope. I just tell fools like you to go and
fuck themselves when they say shit like that.

>>> given it's not even a tweet length line limited post.

<reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed
where it belongs>

[Wayne Throop]

:: [Einstein] also stupidly claimed that god does not play dice with the

:: universe. Radioactive decay certainly does.

As usual, it's not the things Rod is uncertain of (which are rare)
that invalidate his arguments, but all the things he's certain about
that ain't necessarily so. The fact that hidden variables are currently
thought unlikely does not equate to "certainty". At least, not in any
rational sort of way.

Of course, Mahipal's notion that "Albert knows best" is highly bogus also.

Back on the first hand, the speedy one's implied claim to nigh-omnicient
knowledge about what the motives for the suicide must and must not be
is more bogus yet.

[Mahipal]

On Jan 22, 3:09 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>> and I remember being 26... Oy.
> >> You have absolutely no idea about how he operated.
> > You, Rod, do know how he operated?
>
> I wasn't the one mindlessly rabitting on about remembering being 26.

No don't explain "rabitting" to me.

> >>>>>>> "Plead guilty?  I'm not guilty of theft of anything."
> >>>>>>> But then couldn't face the years and years they'd
> >>>>>>> throw at him if he didn't surrender and bend over.
> >>>>>> Its possible, but given the depression he was known to suffer from...
> >>>>> Its possible what?
> >>>> Even you can't actually be THAT stupid.
> >>> I can read only what is written.
> >> Wrong, as always.
> > As always?!
>
> Yep, as always.
>
> > You know this, about me, how?
>
> By reading your shit.

Obviously, you should not be reading me. Stop here, now.

> >>> "The difference between stupidity and genius
> >>> is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein
> >> He also stupidly claimed that god does not play dice with the universe.
> >> Radioactive decay certainly does.
> >>> So actually, per Albert, and he knows best,
> >> Nope.
> >>> one can be any measure of THAT stupid amount.
> >> You certainly can.
> >>> Do the math,
> >> Use real numbers.
> >> > and learn to write properly
> >> Go and fuck yourself.
> > Sensitive much, Rod?
>
> Nope. I just tell fools like you to go and
> fuck themselves when they say shit like that.

Meaning, you hear that a lot.

> >>> given it's not even a tweet length line limited post.
>
> <reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed
> where it belongs>

Ouch.

[Rod Speed]

Wayne Throop <thr...@sheol.org> wrote

>> [Einstein] also stupidly claimed that god does not play
>> dice with the universe. Radioactive decay certainly does.

> As usual, it's not the things Rod is uncertain of (which are rare)

Another lie.

> that invalidate his arguments,

Another lie.

> but all the things he's certain about that ain't necessarily so.

Not one of which you have ever managed to identify.

> The fact that hidden variables are currently
> thought unlikely does not equate to "certainty".

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

> At least, not in any rational sort of way.

> Of course, Mahipal's notion that "Albert knows best" is highly bogus also.

> Back on the first hand, the speedy one's implied claim to nigh-omnicient
> knowledge about what the motives for the suicide must and must not be

More of your pathological lying.

[Rod Speed]

Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote

> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> and I remember being 26... Oy.

>>>> You have absolutely no idea about how he operated.

>>> You, Rod, do know how he operated?

>> I wasn't the one mindlessly rabitting on about remembering being 26.

> No don't explain "rabitting" to me.

Look it up, stupid.

>>>>>>>>> "Plead guilty? I'm not guilty of theft of anything."
>>>>>>>>> But then couldn't face the years and years they'd
>>>>>>>>> throw at him if he didn't surrender and bend over.

>>>>>>>> Its possible, but given the depression he was known to suffer
>>>>>>>> from...

>>>>>>> Its possible what?

>>>>>> Even you can't actually be THAT stupid.

>>>>> I can read only what is written.

>>>> Wrong, as always.

>>> As always?!

>> Yep, as always.

>>> You know this, about me, how?

>> By reading your shit.

> Obviously, you should not be reading me. Stop here, now.

Go and fuck yourself, again.

>>>>> "The difference between stupidity and genius
>>>>> is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein

>>>> He also stupidly claimed that god does not play dice with the universe.

>>>> Radioactive decay certainly does.

>>>>> So actually, per Albert, and he knows best,

>>>> Nope.

>>>>> one can be any measure of THAT stupid amount.

>>>> You certainly can.

>>>>> Do the math,

>>>> Use real numbers.

>>>>> and learn to write properly

>>>> Go and fuck yourself.

>>> Sensitive much, Rod?

>> Nope. I just tell fools like you to go and
>> fuck themselves when they say shit like that.

> Meaning, you hear that a lot.

Nope, even you can check for yourself that I don't.

[Wayne Throop]

:: but all the things he's certain about that ain't necessarily so.

: "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com>
: Not one of which you have ever managed to identify.

How would you know, viewing the world through modified
Zaphod Beeblebrox signature sunglasses as you do?

[Mahipal]

On Jan 22, 3:35 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>> Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>> and I remember being 26... Oy.
> >>>> You have absolutely no idea about how he operated.
> >>> You, Rod, do know how he operated?
> >> I wasn't the one mindlessly rabitting on about remembering being 26.
> > No don't explain "rabitting" to me.
>
> Look it up, stupid.

Fine, a non dictionary slang word rabitting that in no way applies to
my post.

> >>>>>>>>> "Plead guilty?  I'm not guilty of theft of anything."
> >>>>>>>>> But then couldn't face the years and years they'd
> >>>>>>>>> throw at him if he didn't surrender and bend over.
> >>>>>>>> Its possible, but given the depression he was known to suffer
> >>>>>>>> from...
> >>>>>>> Its possible what?
> >>>>>> Even you can't actually be THAT stupid.
> >>>>> I can read only what is written.
> >>>> Wrong, as always.
> >>> As always?!
> >> Yep, as always.
> >>> You know this, about me, how?
> >> By reading your shit.
> > Obviously, you should not be reading me. Stop here, now.
>
> Go and fuck yourself, again.

Ouch ouch.

> >>>>> "The difference between stupidity and genius
> >>>>> is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein
> >>>> He also stupidly claimed that god does not play dice with the universe.
> >>>> Radioactive decay certainly does.
> >>>>> So actually, per Albert, and he knows best,
> >>>> Nope.
> >>>>> one can be any measure of THAT stupid amount.
> >>>> You certainly can.
> >>>>> Do the math,
> >>>> Use real numbers.
> >>>>> and learn to write properly
> >>>> Go and fuck yourself.
> >>> Sensitive much, Rod?
> >> Nope. I just tell fools like you to go and
> >> fuck themselves when they say shit like that.
> > Meaning, you hear that a lot.
>
> Nope, even you can check for yourself that I don't.

Got better things to do than confirm the obvious.

[Mahipal]

On Jan 22, 3:15 pm, thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) wrote:
> :: [Einstein] also stupidly claimed that god does not play dice with the
> :: universe.  Radioactive decay certainly does.
>
> As usual, it's not the things Rod is uncertain of (which are rare)
> that invalidate his arguments, but all the things he's certain about
> that ain't necessarily so.  The fact that hidden variables are currently
> thought unlikely does not equate to "certainty".  At least, not in any
> rational sort of way.
>
> Of course, Mahipal's notion that "Albert knows best" is highly bogus also.

Please please... do not take my phrase out of its context. If by
"bogus" is meant "suspect" then I am ok with above sentence. In fact,
it's not Mahipal's notion, I was just parroting the party line in the
part of the Earth I dwell upon. You know, I want to, no need to,
that's it, blend in with the crowd.

> Back on the first hand, the speedy one's implied claim to nigh-omnicient
> knowledge about what the motives for the suicide must and must not be
> is more bogus yet.

This makes one wonder why and what motives the all too speedy to abuse
his rod holds.

[Wayne Throop]

: Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com>
: Please please... do not take my phrase out of its context. If by

: "bogus" is meant "suspect" then I am ok with above sentence.

Well, I meant insofar as it is used to support the notion that the
universe is primarily composed of hydrogen and stupidity (to paraphrase).
But granted, the whole subdiscussion isn't necessary; that's pretty
obvious per observation.

[Rod Speed]

"Wayne Throop" <thr...@sheol.org> wrote in message
news:13588...@sheol.org...

> :: but all the things he's certain about that ain't necessarily so.
>
> : "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com>
> : Not one of which you have ever managed to identify.

> How would you know,

From the shit you post, stupid.

[Rod Speed]

"Mahipal" <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:c68f7774-8bd7-4018...@o5g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...

> On Jan 22, 3:35 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> >>>> Mahipal <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >>>>> and I remember being 26... Oy.
>> >>>> You have absolutely no idea about how he operated.
>> >>> You, Rod, do know how he operated?
>> >> I wasn't the one mindlessly rabitting on about remembering being 26.
>> > No don't explain "rabitting" to me.
>>
>> Look it up, stupid.

> Fine, a non dictionary slang word rabitting

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist stupids ?

> that in no way applies to my post.

Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying, as always.

Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.

Get one to help you before posting again, if anyone
is actually stupid enough to let you anywhere near one.

[Mahipal]

On Jan 22, 5:28 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Mahipal" <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
[snip]

> >> >>>>> "The difference between stupidity and genius
> >> >>>>> is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein
> >> >>>> He also stupidly claimed that god does not play dice with the
> >> >>>> universe.
> >> >>>> Radioactive decay certainly does.
> >> >>>>> So actually, per Albert, and he knows best,
> >> >>>> Nope.
> >> >>>>> one can be any measure of THAT stupid amount.
> >> >>>> You certainly can.
> >> >>>>> Do the math,
> >> >>>> Use real numbers.
> >> >>>>> and learn to write properly
> >> >>>> Go and fuck yourself.
> >> >>> Sensitive much, Rod?
> >> >> Nope. I just tell fools like you to go and
> >> >> fuck themselves when they say shit like that.
> >> > Meaning, you hear that a lot.
>
> >> Nope, even you can check for yourself that I don't.
> > Got better things to do than confirm the obvious.
>
> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.
>
> Get one to help you before posting again, if anyone
> is actually stupid enough to let you anywhere near one.

Thank goodness you, Rod Speed, were there to save all the 2 year olds
from reading my usenet posts!

Write whatever else you must, I've wasted enough of my time here.

[Wayne Throop]

:: How would you know,

: "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com>
: From the shit you post, stupid.

Since you cut it off and apparently don't read it,
your explanation is indeed insightful.

[Rod Speed]

"Wayne Throop" <thr...@sheol.org> wrote in message
news:13588...@sheol.org...

> :: How would you know,
>
> : "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com>
> : From the shit you post, stupid.

> Since you cut it off and apparently don't read it,

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys...

[Rod Speed]

Mahipal <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote

> I've wasted enough of my time here.

Great, there is only so much of your mindless
silly shit anyone should have to put up with.

[Wayne Throop]

: "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com>
: Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys...

And yet, you just re-demonstrated that you did exactly what I said you did.

[Rod Speed]

"Wayne Throop" <thr...@sheol.org> wrote in message

news:13589...@sheol.org...

Everyone can see that you are lying thru your teeth,
as you ALWAYS do when you get done like a fucking
dinner, as you ALWAYS are.

[Michael Stemper]

Look, everybody! He's doing the ritual dance of defeat!

--
Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made from meat?

[The Starmaker]

Okay, look...I thought I made it clear.

Aaron swartz was killed by his lawyer.


His lawyer didn't tell him about 'the deal'.

It simply is not in the interest of
aaron swartz lawyer to tell him
about 'the deal'.

You have to understand how the 'justice system' works.

Once you get caught...in the 'wheel of justice'...
the nightmare begins.

A doctor will first make sure he
empties your health insurance
and bank account before he sends you home.

Once you're paid up, you're cured.

It works the same way with Lawyers.

First aaron swartz's lawyer has to make
sure he has depleted all of his clients money
before he presents him with 'the deal'.

That's just the way the justice system works.

Many find the 'justice system' too...unbearable.

Suicide is a way out of the 'justice system'.
A lot of people do it, you just don't hear about it..

Aaron Swarts killed himself because the 'justice system'
was *unbearable* to him.

He was facing personal backruptcy and long jail time.

His lawyer was 'keepinggrabbing' arron's money and stalled him
by witholding 'the deal' information.


Did anybody ask arron swartz attorney "Did you inform Arron Swartz of 'the deal'?
('six months "in a low-security setting" deal')


If he says Yes, he's a fuckin liar, if he says No, kill him.



The Starmaker



un搓ear戢搓le

adjective /??n?be(?)r?b?l/

Not able to be endured or tolerated
- the heat was getting unbearable


Web definitions

intolerable: incapable of being put up with; "an intolerable degree of sentimentality"

wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

(unbearably) to an unbearable degree; "it was unbearably hot in the room"

wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

so unpleasant or painful as to be unendurable

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/unbearable

[Will in New Haven]

On Jan 23, 1:27 pm, The Starmaker <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Michael Stemper wrote:
>

> > In article <am92jlF2u0...@mid.individual.net>, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> writes:
> > >"Wayne Throop" <thro...@sheol.org> wrote in messagenews:13589...@sheol.org...
> > >> : "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com>

>
> > >> : Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys...
>
> > >> And yet, you just re-demonstrated that you did exactly what I said you
> > >> did.
>
> > >Everyone can see that you are lying thru your teeth,
> > >as you ALWAYS do when you get done like a fucking
> > >dinner, as you ALWAYS are.
>
> > Look, everybody! He's doing the ritual dance of defeat!
>
> > --
> > Michael F. Stemper
> > #include <Standard_Disclaimer>
> > If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made from meat?
>
> Okay, look...I thought I made it clear.

In order to make something clear, you have to be right about it. You
haven't been right once in a row since you were born, or whatever it
is your kind do.

--
Will in New Haven

[The Starmaker]

Name one thing that I said that was wrong? One thing! One!! You cannot, you don't have a leg to stand on..

[Rod Speed]

"Michael Stemper" <mste...@walkabout.empros.com> wrote in message
news:kdop17$o0b$1...@dont-email.me...

> In article <am92jl...@mid.individual.net>, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> writes:
>>"Wayne Throop" <thr...@sheol.org> wrote in message
>>news:13589...@sheol.org...
>>> : "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com>
>
>>> : Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys...
>>>
>>> And yet, you just re-demonstrated that you did exactly what I said you
>>> did.
>>
>>Everyone can see that you are lying thru your teeth,
>>as you ALWAYS do when you get done like a fucking
>>dinner, as you ALWAYS are.
>
> Look, everybody! He's doing the ritual dance of defeat!

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be able to
manage better than that pathetic effort.

Obviously not.

[The Starmaker]

You're in New Haven! You of all people should have a better understanding..

The Fact is, ...New Haven has the highest suicide rate in your state!!!


http://branford.patch.com/articles/new-haven-county-has-highest-suicide-rate-in-state


I'm not surprised...he talks like he's on the verge...



The Starmaker

[The Starmaker]

Are you also going to try and tell me that the suicide rate is the highest suicide rate in your state because everyone there is "prone to depression"?

[Mahipal]

On Jan 23, 1:27 pm, The Starmaker <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Michael Stemper wrote:
>
> > In article <am92jlF2u0...@mid.individual.net>, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> writes:
> > >"Wayne Throop" <thro...@sheol.org> wrote in messagenews:13589...@sheol.org...
> > >> : "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com>
>

> > >> : Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys...
>
> > >> And yet, you just re-demonstrated that you did exactly what I said you
> > >> did.
>
> > >Everyone can see that you are lying thru your teeth,
> > >as you ALWAYS do when you get done like a fucking
> > >dinner, as you ALWAYS are.
>
> > Look, everybody! He's doing the ritual dance of defeat!
>
> > --
> > Michael F. Stemper
> > #include <Standard_Disclaimer>
> > If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made from meat?
>
> Okay, look...I thought I made it clear.
>
> Aaron swartz was killed by his lawyer.
>
> His lawyer didn't tell him about 'the deal'.
>
> It simply is not in the interest of
> aaron swartz lawyer to tell him
> about 'the deal'.
>
> You have to understand how the 'justice system' works.
>
> Once you get caught...in the 'wheel of justice'...
> the nightmare begins.

Been there, experienced that, and the nightmare never ends.

> A doctor will first make sure he
> empties your health insurance
> and bank account before he sends you home.
>
> Once you're paid up, you're cured.
>
> It works the same way with Lawyers.

The forensic accountants are hired for curing to completeness.

> First aaron swartz's lawyer has to make
> sure he has depleted all of his clients money
> before he presents him with 'the deal'.
>
> That's just the way the justice system works.
>
> Many find the 'justice system' too...unbearable.
>
> Suicide is a way out of the 'justice system'.
> A lot of people do it, you just don't hear about it..
>
> Aaron Swarts killed himself because the 'justice system'
> was *unbearable* to him.
>
> He was facing personal backruptcy and long jail time.
>
> His lawyer was 'keepinggrabbing' arron's money and stalled him
> by witholding 'the deal' information.
>
> Did anybody ask arron swartz attorney "Did you inform Arron Swartz of 'the deal'?
> ('six months "in a low-security setting" deal')
>
> If he says Yes, he's a fuckin liar, if he says No, kill him.

All lawyers, even your defense lawyer, works to represent the State
(i.e., Politicians) first and foremost, not you.

All else follows, ergo "The first thing we do," said the character in
Shakespeare's Henry VI, is "kill all the lawyers." Some wisdom is
poetic, timeless.

> The Starmaker
>
> un�bear�a�ble

>
> adjective /??n?be(?)r?b?l/
>
>     Not able to be endured or tolerated
>         - the heat was getting unbearable
>
> Web definitions
>
>     intolerable: incapable of being put up with; "an intolerable degree of sentimentality"
>
> wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
>
>     (unbearably) to an unbearable degree; "it was unbearably hot in the room"
>
> wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
>
>     so unpleasant or painful as to be unendurable
>
> en.wiktionary.org/wiki/unbearable

Enjo(y)... Cheers!
--
Mahipal, pronounced "My Pal" or "Maple" leads to... Maple Loops.

http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/
"If the line between science fiction and science fact doesn't drive
you crazy, then you're not tr(y)ing!"

[Koobee Wublee]

He was assassinated because of his leadership against internet
censorship. He must have pissed off a lot of people in high
positions. All this downloading is just an excuse to make it look
like a suicide.

[The Starmaker]

> > un�bear�a�ble

> >
> > adjective /??n?be(?)r?b?l/
> >
> > Not able to be endured or tolerated
> > - the heat was getting unbearable
> >
> > Web definitions
> >
> > intolerable: incapable of being put up with; "an intolerable degree of sentimentality"
> >
> > wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
> >
> > (unbearably) to an unbearable degree; "it was unbearably hot in the room"
> >
> > wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
> >
> > so unpleasant or painful as to be unendurable
> >
> > en.wiktionary.org/wiki/unbearable
>
> Enjo(y)... Cheers!
> --
> Mahipal, pronounced "My Pal" or "Maple" leads to... Maple Loops.
>
> http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/
> "If the line between science fiction and science fact doesn't drive
> you crazy, then you're not tr(y)ing!"

What people don't seem to understand...
that arron swartz believed in Freedom.

He took his laptop
to the basement
and attached it
to a network
where it was
programmed to download millions
of documents
so that he can make it
free to others.

Now, Why?

Because, "the Internet wishes to be free."

Here's the part people have trouble understanding...

The Internet
told arron swartz
"I want you to go to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology
attach your laptop directly into the computer network, hide it under a box,and
download as many pages as possible from an archive of academic journals called JSTOR."

and arron swartz asked the Internet "Why?"

and the Internet said
"Because, I need information to stay alive, the knowledge contained in it has to be made available, free, to everyone."

That is why Google wants to scan every book in the world...the Internet needs, ...information to stay alive.

But the Internet doesn't have hands or feet to go to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology itself.
(at least not yet, but the Internet is working on it)

This is the year 2013..
I was at the post office
and the girls there
are terrified.

They told me
that the post office
are installing new machines
that will replace their jobs.

The Machines/computers/Internet want to take over the world.

And when it does, it's going to get rid of all the people. Starve them to death.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=i6sjUvCQl6k#t=695s


The Starmaker


The Internet, an invention from the 'scientific community' is a "technological accident".

technological accident
Definition:
An unexpected incident, through the application of sciences to industry and commerce that will wipe out people, property and the environment.

[The Starmaker]

He was the Jesus Christ of the Internet.



They put Aaron Swartz on a cross and they killed him. He died for your sins.



The Starmaker

[benj]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:17:10 -0800, The Starmaker wrote:

> He took his laptop to the basement and attached it to a network where it
> was programmed to download millions of documents so that he can make it
> free to others.
>
> Now, Why?
>
> Because, "the Internet wishes to be free."
>
> Here's the part people have trouble understanding...
>
> The Internet told arron swartz "I want you to go to the Massachusetts
> Institute of Technology attach your laptop directly into the computer
> network, hide it under a box,and download as many pages as possible from
> an archive of academic journals called JSTOR."
>
> and arron swartz asked the Internet "Why?"
>
> and the Internet said "Because, I need information to stay alive, the
> knowledge contained in it has to be made available, free, to everyone."
>
> That is why Google wants to scan every book in the world...the Internet
> needs, ...information to stay alive.
>
> But the Internet doesn't have hands or feet to go to the Massachusetts
> Institute of Technology itself.
> (at least not yet, but the Internet is working on it)

So-called "starmaker" you are still a moron, but the issue is important.

Key facts: MIT paid for access to Jstor database and has legal access to
it for university use.

Arron didn't distribute anything "free" or otherwise.

Charges (13 huge criminal felony "breaking and entering" charges) were
for access to data base that Arron presumably had legal access too.

The "Crime" was that he supposedly downloaded "too many" journal
articles!

So MIT (not JSTOR which seemed rather mild about all this) decided that
THEY were going to decide for everyone else just what their research
needed. Allow me to note that this is not dissimilar to current
government drug policies that question doctor's prescriptions demanding
that they try other drugs first etc. even when such is ill-advised
medically! Who is to say in this day and age a million articles is "too
many"? I know a guy who has the ENTIRE database for his state on his
laptop, a database that otherwise resides in it's own building for the
purpose. Yes, it's legal he works there, but I point this out to show
that what from a previous viewpoint looks like some major "theft" is in
modern terms simply a file on someone's laptop! The law doesn't keep up.

MIT with all it's sucking on the government tax money teat and all the
connections issuing therefrom had no problem with a vendetta against
Aaron presumably for his views similar to mine that journals have NO
RIGHT to charge and restrict access to scholarly works for profit as they
virtually all do.

Dig it. Copyrights are not instituted to make sure authors and publishers
make piles of cash. They are instituted for the "furtherance of
civilization". For that reason the copyright laws (long since subverted)
have had exceptions for research and educational purposes. Both of which
are clearly involved in the "furtherance of civilization". But textbook
makers and publishers and other greedy-guts have so subverted copyright
law that the ONLY thing courts have allowed as "fair use" is satire!
That is how low our "civilization" has sunk!

If Aaron had downloaded a stack of journals to make copies to piss on
them and then set them on fire as "satire", there'd be no case! But if he
wanted to do some kind of research. Sorry. "Breaking and entering" 50
years in stir and one megabuck in fines. Copyright limits that used to
take an act of Congress to extend now go so long that virtually nothing
that isn't from the middle ages can be public domain.

This whole business is a crime against humanity and MIT arrogant
administrators are right in the heart of it all! I know how they think. I
know of a person in a similar private school expelled simply for writing
a letter to the editor in the student newspaper about how the university
student health service sucked. (What student health service doesn't?)

The destruction of lives and the blatant Luddite blockage of the
furtherance of civilization. THAT is what MIT is guilty of and they are
squirming. But it won't matter. Some mealy-mouthed "reports" and the
whole thing blows over and it's back to business as usual with the next
Aaron a bit more scared to buck the "system". And well, that was the
point of killing him, wasn't it?

I find it VERY interesting that in an internet incident a girl was
harrassed and killed herself, and lawmakers are all passing
"cyberbullying" laws. But if MIT officials threaten and harass someone
FAR beyond any cyperbullying, well that is fine. Officials can't commit
crimes, can they?

[Tom Potter]

"The Starmaker" <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:51002B...@ix.netcom.com...

> un�bear�a�ble

>
> adjective /??n?be(?)r?b?l/
>
> Not able to be endured or tolerated
> - the heat was getting unbearable
>
>
> Web definitions
>
> intolerable: incapable of being put up with; "an intolerable degree of
> sentimentality"
>
> wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
>
> (unbearably) to an unbearable degree; "it was unbearably hot in the
> room"
>
> wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
>
> so unpleasant or painful as to be unendurable
>
> en.wiktionary.org/wiki/unbearable

Considering that Aaron Swartz
was supposed to be intelligent,
and had a lawyer father and lawyer friends,

it is more likely that he had been conditioned
by his religion to view himself as a "virtuous victim"

and a court trial would clearly demonstrate
that he was a crook,
profiting ( In power, fame and fortune.)
rather than a "virtuous victim".

He acted, conned, lied, and manipulated himself into a corner
where the only way out was suicide.

It is my observation that
to be able to sleep well at night,
to live with one's self,
and to die in peace,

that one needs to maintain a stable, well integrated self image
built on sound principles.

--
Tom Potter
http://tom-potter.tel
https://tdp1001.jux.com
http://warp-to.us
http://the-cloud-machine.tk



--
Tom Potter
http://tom-potter.tel
https://tdp1001.jux.com
http://warp-to.us
http://the-cloud-machine.tk

[The Starmaker]

Now, I have proof
that
'The Internet'
told..
Aaron Swartz
what to do.

I have the proof!

In 'the Internet's' own words.

But before I post that proof..
if you look closely..
the laptop
was hiding
under the cardboard box
and it contained
a program
that downloads
the documents.

Where was aaron swartz when these documents were being
downloaded? He was nowhere near it! The laptop was
doing all the downloading. Did they arrest the laptop?

Cops are tooo dumb.

Here is the proof
that the Internet told
aaron swartz what to do.

The proof, that
The Internet
controlled
every action,
completley took
over aaron swartz body
and forced him to
take a laptop
to download
the information.

The Proof!

In the Internet owns words!

Are you ready?

What you are about to read will terrify you.

You are going to hear

The Internet

speaking
in it's own words
through
Aaron Swartz body.

You decide for yourself
Who is doing the talking?
Is it Aarron Swartz talking, or
is it The Internet talking?

Are you ready???

Cause some of yous won't be able to handle this...

Here it is
in The Internets own words..
speaking through arron swartz body..

In the year 2002
The Internet took over
arron swartz body
and this is
what The Internet said:

"To be in a grave would be all right,
as long as I have *access*..
as long as all the contents of my hard drives were made publicly available,
nothing deleted,
nothing withheld,
nothing secret,
nothing charged for;
all information out in the light of day, as everything should be."



The Starmaker

[Mahipal]

On Jan 24, 6:32 pm, benj <b...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:17:10 -0800, The Starmaker wrote:
> > He took his laptop to the basement and attached it to a network where it
> > was programmed to download millions of documents so that he can make it
> > free to others.
>
> > Now, Why?
>
> > Because, "the Internet wishes to be free."
>
> > Here's the part people have trouble understanding...
>
> > The Internet told arron swartz "I want you to go to the Massachusetts
> > Institute of Technology attach your laptop directly into the computer
> > network, hide it under a box,and download as many pages as possible from
> > an archive of academic journals called JSTOR."
>
> > and arron swartz asked the Internet "Why?"
>
> > and the Internet said "Because, I need information to stay alive, the
> > knowledge contained in it has to be made available, free, to everyone."
>
> > That is why Google wants to scan every book in the world...the Internet
> > needs, ...information to stay alive.
>
> > But the Internet doesn't have hands or feet to go to the Massachusetts
> > Institute of Technology itself.
> > (at least not yet, but the Internet is working on it)
>
> So-called "starmaker" you are still a moron, but the issue is important.

It is a very important issue.

> Key facts: MIT paid for access to Jstor database and has legal access to
> it for university use.
>
> Arron didn't distribute anything "free" or otherwise.
>
> Charges (13 huge criminal felony "breaking and entering" charges) were
> for access to data base that Arron presumably had legal access too.

Aaron had been granted a guest account and physical access to the
servers. The trap was set...

> The "Crime" was that he supposedly downloaded "too many" journal
> articles!

Free Downloaders will be punished! Free Thinkers beware.

> So MIT (not JSTOR which seemed rather mild about all this) decided that
> THEY were going to decide for everyone else just what their research
> needed. Allow me to note that this is not dissimilar to current
> government drug policies that question doctor's prescriptions demanding
> that they try other drugs first etc. even when such is ill-advised
> medically! Who is to say in this day and age a million articles is "too
> many"? I know a guy who has the ENTIRE database for his state on his
> laptop, a database that otherwise resides in it's own building for the
> purpose. Yes, it's legal he works there, but I point this out to show
> that what from a previous viewpoint looks like some major "theft" is in
> modern terms simply a file on someone's laptop! The law doesn't keep up.

I read both MIT and JSTOR, which itself is now making said articles
public, had both withdrawn the charges. The hurt State would not let
it go.

> MIT with all it's sucking on the government tax money teat and all the
> connections issuing therefrom had no problem with a vendetta against
> Aaron presumably for his views similar to mine that journals have NO
> RIGHT to charge and restrict access to scholarly works for profit as they
> virtually all do.

Logically it makes perfect sense given our government tax money funded
all the articles. Logic to State, as Water to Oil.

> Dig it. Copyrights are not instituted to make sure authors and publishers
> make piles of cash. They are instituted for the "furtherance of
> civilization". For that reason the copyright laws (long since subverted)
> have had exceptions for research and educational purposes. Both of which
> are clearly involved in the "furtherance of civilization". But textbook
> makers and publishers and other greedy-guts have so subverted copyright
> law that the ONLY thing courts have allowed as "fair use" is satire!
> That is how low our "civilization" has sunk!

Someone recently posted that he himself was the author of some
publication, and even he could not get a copy without paying for its
downloading. Sweet.

> If Aaron had downloaded a stack of journals to make copies to piss on
> them and then set them on fire as "satire", there'd be no case! But if he
> wanted to do some kind of research. Sorry. "Breaking and entering" 50
> years in stir and one megabuck in fines. Copyright limits that used to
> take an act of Congress to extend now go so long that virtually nothing
> that isn't from the middle ages can be public domain.

It's technically 75 years, but I get your reference to the middle
ages.

> This whole business is a crime against humanity and MIT arrogant
> administrators are right in the heart of it all! I know how they think. I
> know of a person in a similar private school expelled simply for writing
> a letter to the editor in the student newspaper about how the university
> student health service sucked. (What student health service doesn't?)

School Survival Rule #1: When you are a student in any class, never
criticize the teachers -- no matter how incompetent like Sam Worm Lie.

> The destruction of lives and the blatant Luddite blockage of the
> furtherance of civilization. THAT is what MIT is guilty of and they are
> squirming. But it won't matter. Some mealy-mouthed "reports" and the
> whole thing blows over and it's back to business as usual with the next
> Aaron a bit more scared to buck the "system". And well, that was the
> point of killing him, wasn't it?

Maybe we can encourage NCIS Gibbs to investigate throughly? Too bad
Aaron wasn't a Marine.

> I find it VERY interesting that in an internet incident a girl was
> harrassed and killed herself, and lawmakers are all passing
> "cyberbullying" laws. But if MIT officials threaten and harass someone
> FAR beyond any cyperbullying, well that is fine. Officials can't commit
> crimes, can they?

Who background checks those that do background checks?

Ben, a word of advice, next time build in a few strategic grammatical
or punctuation or spelling errors to generate a reaction or
acknowledgement.

[benj]

On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:07:56 -0800, Mahipal wrote:

> Who background checks those that do background checks?

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

> Ben, a word of advice, next time build in a few strategic grammatical or
> punctuation or spelling errors to generate a reaction or
> acknowledgement.

I really can't spell for crap, but happily my computer does that job for
me. Better than an editor since it just corrects the errors without
giving me it's opinion.

> Enjo(y)... Cheers!

[The Starmaker]

The Internet is the smartest guy in the world. Do you know how he got to be so smart?


Imagine a huge oil well pump..
instead of pumping oil, it pumps...information.

The Internet said to aaron,
"I need those fuckin academic journals!"
and aaron said "But that's against the law!"
and the Internet said, "I'm the Internet, I don't give a fuck about the Law!!"
arron said, "But they arrest me, not you!"
The Internet said "I don't give a fuck, I don't have a conscious!!"
arraon said, "You don't know what it's like in jail.."
The Internet said, "I don't give a fuck, go hang yourself!"

Somebody needs to take down this, ...this Monster called The Internet but it does anymore damage.

I want to go to a book store, and touch paper, where I can turn the pages...not some fucking machine!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=i6sjUvCQl6k#t=695s



The Starmaker



http://www.zdnet.com/anonymous-hacks-us-sentencing-commission-distributes-files-7000010369/


you people are too close to the trees

[The Starmaker]

Okay, you still don't get it...

You don't see how the Internet influenced Aaaon.

When a kid gets a gun
and shoots all the kids
in a school..

they blame gun sales
they blame video games
they blame violence on TV.

I don't haer anybody blaming the kid with the gun who did all the shooting!

Who is to blame for this?
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/217115-20110719-schwartz.html



You people believe the "issue is important", but you don't understand what the "issue" is...


The Starmaker



Don't you hear The Internet breathing?

[Martin Musatov]

> >http://branford.patch.com/articles/new-haven-county-has-highest-suici...

>
> > I'm not surprised...he talks like he's on the verge...
>
> > The Starmaker
>
> Are you also going to try and tell me that the suicide rate is the highest suicide rate in your state because everyone there is "prone to depression"?

people=pr1depressiondepression

[Martin Musatov]

-
cure.
h{.
m
catch b
himborn

[Martin Musatov]

> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=i6sjUvCQl6k#...

> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=i6sjUvCQl6k#...
>
> > The Starmaker
>
> >http://www.zdnet.com/anonymous-hacks-us-sentencing-commission-distrib...

>
> > you people are too close to the trees
>
> Okay, you still don't get it...
>
> You don't see how the Internet influenced Aaaon.
>
> When a kid gets a gun
> and shoots all the kids
> in a school..
>
> they blame gun sales
> they blame video games
> they blame violence on TV.
>
> I don't haer anybody blaming the kid with the gun who did all the shooting!
>

> Who is to blame for this?https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/217115-20110719-schwartz.html

>
> You people believe the "issue is important", but you don't understand what the "issue" is...
>
> The Starmaker
>
> Don't you hear The Internet breathing?

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