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Publishing Scamsters Being Pursued

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Michael J. Lowrey

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May 10, 2002, 4:53:17 PM5/10/02
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Passing this on for a friend:

We have had numerous complaints about Kelly O'Donnell/Martha
Ivery,and we are trying to collect information to ascertain
whether or not civil or criminal action can be taken. If
you have had experience with any of the following: Kelly
O'Donnell, Martha Ivery, Press-Tige Publishing Company,
O'Donnell Literary Services, Writers Information U.S.
Agency, New Millennium Publishing, or Phoenix Publishing
Company, please contact: Bryna J. Fireside at
bry...@mindspring.com. or call or fax: (607) 272-2262.

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Michael J. "Orange Mike" Lowrey
Sunrise Book Reviews

Del Cotter

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May 11, 2002, 7:09:39 AM5/11/02
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Mike,

Ann C. Crispin <AnnCr...@aol.com> of Writer Beware [1], already posts
to this group regularly, and has just recently posted a warning about
this scamster, so Bryna is already either in touch with her, or should
be.

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Del Cotter d...@branta.demon.co.uk
[1] www.sfwa.org/beware

T. M. Wagner

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May 11, 2002, 11:57:16 PM5/11/02
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In article <L2xg0nCz...@branta.demon.co.uk>,
Del Cotter <d...@branta.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Ann C. Crispin <AnnCr...@aol.com> of Writer Beware [1], already posts
> to this group regularly, and has just recently posted a warning about
> this scamster, so Bryna is already either in touch with her, or should
> be.

How exactly does the scam work? Do they publish books and not pay or
something?

T.M. Wagner
http://www.sfreviews.net/

Del Cotter

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May 12, 2002, 4:23:27 AM5/12/02
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Worse. They take the money from the writer and then don't publish. I
think Writer Beware has a saying, that money always goes *from* the
publisher *to* the writer, and any publisher or "literary agency" that
tells you different is a scam. Their other saying is "the only place
you as a writer should be signing checks is on the back".

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Anncrispin

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May 12, 2002, 10:04:38 AM5/12/02
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If you want to know how various writing scams work, read Writer Beware.

www.sfwa.org/beware

-Ann C. Crispin

Lawrence Watt-Evans

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May 12, 2002, 3:10:01 PM5/12/02
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On Sun, 12 May 2002 09:23:27 +0100, Del Cotter
<d...@branta.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Worse. They take the money from the writer and then don't publish. I
>think Writer Beware has a saying, that money always goes *from* the
>publisher *to* the writer, and any publisher or "literary agency" that
>tells you different is a scam. Their other saying is "the only place
>you as a writer should be signing checks is on the back".

Giving credit where it's due, I believe both of those sayings
originate with James D. Macdonald, a.k.a. Yog Sysop. The former is
properly "Yog's Law: Money flows _toward_ the writer."

You have the second one in its exact paradigmatic form, so far as I
can tell.

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