Published SF/F/H authors wanted for NYC reading November 11th
Ord...@aol.com
First off, the below is not a joke. To learn more about the group
sponsdering the reading, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CODINNERS/
Or drop me a line at Ordo...@aol.com.
Thanks -
John Ordover
SCIENCE FICTION/FANTASY/HORROR reading:
Clothing Optional Dinners is sponsering an authors' reading/signing, a
promo opportunity w/a free dinner thrown in, on Nov 11th. The catch is
that you have to read in the nude to a room full of nudists. The plus
is that you get to read to an interested crowd that aren't just the
same old SF/F/H readers. Currently I have three authors signed up,
including two-time P.K. Dick award nomineee Ann Tonsor Zeddies. Looking
to add more to the bill.
Sea Wasp
> Published SF/F/H authors wanted for NYC reading November 11th
>
> First off, the below is not a joke.
Trying to strip the event of all controversy?
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Mike Schilling
<Ord...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I'm trying to think of SF authors I'd want to see naked, and the list is not
long.
Robert Hutchinson
> Published SF/F/H authors wanted for NYC reading November 11th
>
> First off, the below is not a joke.
I had just about written it off as such (the "not a joke" line only
reinforcing that belief) until I noticed the author of the post.
So, um. Yeah.
--
Robert Hutchinson | The Twenty is just so evil. The very name gloats
| over our suffering and powerlessness. It's a
| boot stomping on a human face for twenty minutes.
| -- Shaenon K. Garrity
Cyde Weys
Robert Hutchinson wrote:
> Ord...@aol.com says...
> > Published SF/F/H authors wanted for NYC reading November 11th
> >
> > First off, the below is not a joke.
>
> I had just about written it off as such (the "not a joke" line only
> reinforcing that belief) until I noticed the author of the post.
>
> So, um. Yeah.
So, um, is it a joke or not?
Anyway, you'd think there'd be more science fiction authors open to
this than authors from most other genres.
Lawrence Watt-Evans
>Robert Hutchinson wrote:
>> Ord...@aol.com says...
>> > Published SF/F/H authors wanted for NYC reading November 11th
>> >
>> > First off, the below is not a joke.
>>
>> I had just about written it off as such (the "not a joke" line only
>> reinforcing that belief) until I noticed the author of the post.
>>
>> So, um. Yeah.
>
>So, um, is it a joke or not?
No. It isn't.
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Cyde Weys
Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote:
> On 9 Oct 2005 23:19:33 -0700, "Cyde Weys" <cyde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Robert Hutchinson wrote:
> >> Ord...@aol.com says...
> >> > Published SF/F/H authors wanted for NYC reading November 11th
> >> >
> >> > First off, the below is not a joke.
> >>
> >> I had just about written it off as such (the "not a joke" line only
> >> reinforcing that belief) until I noticed the author of the post.
> >>
> >> So, um. Yeah.
> >
> >So, um, is it a joke or not?
>
> No. It isn't.
So should I be happy about this or scared?
Lawrence Watt-Evans
Unless you live in New York, neither.
Mike Schilling
"Lawrence Watt-Evans" <l...@sff.net> wrote in message
news:kk3kk1lbtg4n3tmho...@news.rcn.com...
> On 9 Oct 2005 23:37:53 -0700, "Cyde Weys" <cyde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote:
>>> On 9 Oct 2005 23:19:33 -0700, "Cyde Weys" <cyde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Robert Hutchinson wrote:
>>> >> Ord...@aol.com says...
>>> >> > Published SF/F/H authors wanted for NYC reading November 11th
>>> >> >
>>> >> > First off, the below is not a joke.
>>> >>
>>> >> I had just about written it off as such (the "not a joke" line only
>>> >> reinforcing that belief) until I noticed the author of the post.
>>> >>
>>> >> So, um. Yeah.
>>> >
>>> >So, um, is it a joke or not?
>>>
>>> No. It isn't.
>>
>>So should I be happy about this or scared?
>
> Unless you live in New York, neither.
But pictures might be published on the web, so being on the other side of
the continent is not protection enough...
William December Starr
Ord...@aol.com said:
> Clothing Optional Dinners is sponsering an authors'
> reading/signing, a promo opportunity w/a free dinner thrown
> in, on Nov 11th. The catch is that you have to read in the
> nude to a room full of nudists.
This would seem to be a meaning of "optional" with which I was
previously unfamiliar.
--
William December Starr <wds...@panix.com>
Sea Wasp
> Robert Hutchinson wrote:
>
>>Ord...@aol.com says...
>>
>>>Published SF/F/H authors wanted for NYC reading November 11th
>>>
>>>First off, the below is not a joke.
>>
>>I had just about written it off as such (the "not a joke" line only
>>reinforcing that belief) until I noticed the author of the post.
>>
>>So, um. Yeah.
>
>
> So, um, is it a joke or not?
>
No, it definitely is not. John Ordover is a very well-known editor in
the business (for years he was in charge of the entire line of Star
Trek tie-in novels, which was Big Business).
I'd volunteer but my day job gets VERY busy around that time of year.
I also don't want to drive any readers away.
Matt Ruff
>
> I'm trying to think of SF authors I'd want to see naked, and the list is not
> long.
Kind of a null set, actually.
-- M. Ruff
Ord...@aol.com
Ord...@aol.com
I also don't want to drive any readers away."
November 11th is Veteran's Day - do you have it off from work? :)
John
r.r...@thevine.net
I'm thinking that New York in November is not a time I would want to
be nude.
Rebecca
Duke of URL
> <Ord...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1128911128....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>> Published SF/F/H authors wanted for NYC reading November 11th
>>
>> First off, the below is not a joke. To learn more about the group
>> sponsdering the reading, go to:
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CODINNERS/
>> Or drop me a line at Ordo...@aol.com.
>>
>> Clothing Optional Dinners is sponsering an authors' reading/signing,
>> a promo opportunity w/a free dinner thrown in, on Nov 11th. The
>> catch is that you have to read in the nude to a room full of
>> nudists. The plus is that you get to read to an interested crowd
>> that aren't just the same old SF/F/H readers. Currently I have
>> three authors signed up, including two-time P.K. Dick award nomineee
>> Ann Tonsor Zeddies. Looking to add more to the bill.
>
> I'm trying to think of SF authors I'd want to see naked, and the list
> is not long.
Apparently, it's Clothing Optional for a very small value of Optrional.
--
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Paleoconservative, Surface Warrior Squid; DEC 25 = OCT 31
Lawrence Watt-Evans
You've never met Kris Rusch?
Steve Simmons
> Mike Schilling wrote:
Man, I can think of several exceptions. But I might get the opportunity
to interview one of them some day and don't want to miss out - so I'm
not saying who.
--
"Go, go, go, said the bird: human kind
Cannot bear very much reality."
T. S. Eliot, from Burnt Norton in "Four Quartets"
Carl Dershem
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:01:15 GMT, Matt Ruff
> <storyt...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>>Mike Schilling wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm trying to think of SF authors I'd want to see naked, and the
>>> list is not long.
>>
>>Kind of a null set, actually.
>
> You've never met Kris Rusch?
No, alas. But I can think of at least 2 fantasy authors who might be
interesting. :D
cd
--
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Grey.
Ord...@aol.com
> No, alas. But I can think of at least 2 fantasy authors who might be
> interesting. :D
>
> cd
I note you're all quick to volunteer -other- people....
We bring in space heaters if the place is likely to be cold.
Andrew Wheeler
>
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:01:15 GMT, Matt Ruff
> <storyt...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >Mike Schilling wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm trying to think of SF authors I'd want to see naked, and the list is not
> >> long.
> >
> >Kind of a null set, actually.
>
> You've never met Kris Rusch?
Ah, yes. The woman who retired the Locus Poll's "Who Would You Most Like
To Marry" question. (I was just about to post exactly the same thing you did.)
Let's see, who else...Poppy Z. Brite is pretty darn cute. And I've never
even been in the same state as her, to my knowledge. (I can't mention
people I know personally -- and I'm thinking of one or two -- because
that's Just Wrong.)
And now -- since I know I've *met* Ann Tonsor Zeddies (John Ordover
introduced me, even) -- I'm desperately trying to remember what she
looks like...
--
Andrew Wheeler
--
No ideas but in things.
David Bilek
>Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:01:15 GMT, Matt Ruff
>> <storyt...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Mike Schilling wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm trying to think of SF authors I'd want to see naked, and the list is not
>> >> long.
>> >
>> >Kind of a null set, actually.
>>
>> You've never met Kris Rusch?
>
>Ah, yes. The woman who retired the Locus Poll's "Who Would You Most Like
>To Marry" question. (I was just about to post exactly the same thing you did.)
>
Is this who you guys are referring to?
http://www.kristinekathrynrusch.com/KKRBooksigning.jpg
I'm making no judgments on aesthetic tastes, just wondering.
-David
Lawrence Watt-Evans
wrote:
Yup -- and looking at that prompts me to two realizations:
1. That's an amazingly unflattering photograph.
2. It's been fifteen years since I last saw her in person, and it
would appear she hasn't aged especially well.
Carl Dershem
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
I just want to be merciful. I know at least one SF author who has seen me
naked, and ... the reviews, while not awful, were not stellar.
Michael Alan Chary
Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:55:23 -0700, David Bilek <dtb...@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Andrew Wheeler <acwh...@optonline.com> wrote:
>>>Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:01:15 GMT, Matt Ruff
>>>> <storyt...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Mike Schilling wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'm trying to think of SF authors I'd want to see naked, and the
>list is not
>>>> >> long.
>>>> >
>>>> >Kind of a null set, actually.
>>>>
>>>> You've never met Kris Rusch?
>>>
>>>Ah, yes. The woman who retired the Locus Poll's "Who Would You Most Like
>>>To Marry" question. (I was just about to post exactly the same thing
>you did.)
>>
>>Is this who you guys are referring to?
>>
>>http://www.kristinekathrynrusch.com/KKRBooksigning.jpg
>>
>>I'm making no judgments on aesthetic tastes, just wondering.
>
>Yup -- and looking at that prompts me to two realizations:
>
>1. That's an amazingly unflattering photograph.
Well, that's good. I'm very ugly myself, so I'm not one to talk, but,
well, she seems to have a nice smile...
>2. It's been fifteen years since I last saw her in person, and it
>would appear she hasn't aged especially well.
>
How...diplomatic of you. Here's hoping she doesn't grep for her name on
Usenet.
I don't like her writing, but Diane Duane appears to be quite the babe,
though she should keep her glasses on. (See, I *know* she reads the
group, and she has gorgeous eyes, however her glasses provide some
structure for her face.)
http://www.wizards.com/global/images/books_bio_DianeDuane
If we're counting comic book editors, Karen Berger is *fine*.
http://www.alanmooreserhordocaos.hpg.ig.com.br/AM&KarenBerger.JPG
I'd provide a link to a picture of myself, in the interest of fairness,
but there's no point in breaking a bunch of computer monitors by making
them display Joseph Merrick's uglier brother.
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Michael Alan Chary <mch...@panix.com> wrote:
>
>I'd provide a link to a picture of myself, in the interest of fairness,
>but there's no point in breaking a bunch of computer monitors by making
>them display Joseph Merrick's uglier brother.
Making no judgements as to looks, I feel obligated to point out that
Peter David has posed nude in the past.
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Sea Wasp
No, I do not, unfortunately.
Sea Wasp
> In article <dieuou$9v7$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
> Michael Alan Chary <mch...@panix.com> wrote:
>
>>I'd provide a link to a picture of myself, in the interest of fairness,
>>but there's no point in breaking a bunch of computer monitors by making
>>them display Joseph Merrick's uglier brother.
>
>
> Making no judgements as to looks, I feel obligated to point out that
> Peter David has posed nude in the past.
I have not, and no one would pay me to. I'm not the worst looking guy
on the block, but definitely am NOT in "display" shape.
OTOH, the point of the event for ME isn't whether my bod is
aesthetically pleasing, but whether my STORIES are aesthetically
pleasing. Unfortunately I do indeed have to work that day.
_ berge @hotmail.com.invalid Eric D. Berge
>Published SF/F/H authors wanted for NYC reading November 11th
>Clothing Optional Dinners is sponsering an authors' reading/signing, a
>promo opportunity w/a free dinner thrown in, on Nov 11th. The catch is
>that you have to read in the nude to a room full of nudists. The plus
>is that you get to read to an interested crowd that aren't just the
>same old SF/F/H readers. Currently I have three authors signed up,
>including two-time P.K. Dick award nomineee Ann Tonsor Zeddies. Looking
>to add more to the bill.
Have you asked Harlan Ellison yet?
Aaron Davies
> I don't like her writing, but Diane Duane appears to be quite the babe,
> though she should keep her glasses on. (See, I *know* she reads the group,
> and she has gorgeous eyes, however her glasses provide some structure for
> her face.)
>
> http://www.wizards.com/global/images/books_bio_DianeDuane
>
> If we're counting comic book editors, Karen Berger is *fine*.
>
> http://www.alanmooreserhordocaos.hpg.ig.com.br/AM&KarenBerger.JPG
>
> I'd provide a link to a picture of myself, in the interest of fairness,
> but there's no point in breaking a bunch of computer monitors by making
> them display Joseph Merrick's uglier brother.
Neither of those links works.
Judging from her jacket pic, at least, Catherine Asaro's not half bad.
Ah, here's a decent shot at her sff.net website:
<http://www.sff.net/people/asaro/>.
--
Aaron Davies
Opinions expressed are solely those of a random number generator.
Magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
Ho! Ha! Guard! Turn! Parry! Dodge! Spin! Thrust!
Michael Alan Chary
James Nicoll <jdni...@panix.com> wrote:
>In article <dieuou$9v7$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
>Michael Alan Chary <mch...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>I'd provide a link to a picture of myself, in the interest of fairness,
>>but there's no point in breaking a bunch of computer monitors by making
>>them display Joseph Merrick's uglier brother.
>
> Making no judgements as to looks, I feel obligated to point out that
>Peter David has posed nude in the past.
And PAD looks a lot better than I do.
Michael Alan Chary
Aaron Davies <aa...@avalon.pascal-central.com.invalid> wrote:
>Michael Alan Chary <mch...@panix.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't like her writing, but Diane Duane appears to be quite the babe,
>> though she should keep her glasses on. (See, I *know* she reads the group,
>> and she has gorgeous eyes, however her glasses provide some structure for
>> her face.)
>>
>> http://www.wizards.com/global/images/books_bio_DianeDuane
>>
>> If we're counting comic book editors, Karen Berger is *fine*.
>>
>> http://www.alanmooreserhordocaos.hpg.ig.com.br/AM&KarenBerger.JPG
>>
>> I'd provide a link to a picture of myself, in the interest of fairness,
>> but there's no point in breaking a bunch of computer monitors by making
>> them display Joseph Merrick's uglier brother.
>
>Neither of those links works.
Hmm, well, then I heartily suggest a google image search if yuo're that
curious.
>
>Judging from her jacket pic, at least, Catherine Asaro's not half bad.
>Ah, here's a decent shot at her sff.net website:
><http://www.sff.net/people/asaro/>.
Okay, I don't know what her body looks like, but we might have a winner.
Craig Richardson
aa...@avalon.pascal-central.com.invalid (Aaron Davies) wrote:
[piggybacking]
>Michael Alan Chary <mch...@panix.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't like her writing, but Diane Duane appears to be quite the babe,
>> though she should keep her glasses on. (See, I *know* she reads the group,
>> and she has gorgeous eyes, however her glasses provide some structure for
>> her face.)
>>
>> http://www.wizards.com/global/images/books_bio_DianeDuane
As mentioned in the snippage, this link doesn't work. This one does,
though: <http://www.youngwizards.com/AboutTheAuthor.html>. Compare
and contrast with another local favorite:
<http://www.loc.gov/bookfest/04/authors/bios/bujold.html>
--Craig
--
"Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever." - The Replacements
Craig Richardson (crichar...@worldnet.att.net)
Michael Alan Chary
Craig Richardson <crichar...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:56:39 GMT,
>aa...@avalon.pascal-central.com.invalid (Aaron Davies) wrote:
>
>[piggybacking]
>
>>Michael Alan Chary <mch...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't like her writing, but Diane Duane appears to be quite the babe,
>>> though she should keep her glasses on. (See, I *know* she reads the group,
>>> and she has gorgeous eyes, however her glasses provide some structure for
>>> her face.)
>>>
>>> http://www.wizards.com/global/images/books_bio_DianeDuane
>
>As mentioned in the snippage, this link doesn't work. This one does,
>though: <http://www.youngwizards.com/AboutTheAuthor.html>. Compare
>and contrast with another local favorite:
><http://www.loc.gov/bookfest/04/authors/bios/bujold.html>
Okay, so, what do you want exactly? You want me to cancel the post? Do
you want to come over and check your IP set-up on your computer? All I
can do is suggest google image search...
Bill Snyder
Alan Chary) wrote:
>In article <re9mk1pf8hppqvhkc...@4ax.com>,
>Craig Richardson <crichar...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:56:39 GMT,
>>aa...@avalon.pascal-central.com.invalid (Aaron Davies) wrote:
>>
>>[piggybacking]
>>
>>>Michael Alan Chary <mch...@panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't like her writing, but Diane Duane appears to be quite the babe,
>>>> though she should keep her glasses on. (See, I *know* she reads the group,
>>>> and she has gorgeous eyes, however her glasses provide some structure for
>>>> her face.)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wizards.com/global/images/books_bio_DianeDuane
>>
>>As mentioned in the snippage, this link doesn't work. This one does,
>>though: <http://www.youngwizards.com/AboutTheAuthor.html>. Compare
>>and contrast with another local favorite:
>><http://www.loc.gov/bookfest/04/authors/bios/bujold.html>
>
>Okay, so, what do you want exactly? You want me to cancel the post? Do
>you want to come over and check your IP set-up on your computer? All I
>can do is suggest google image search...
Not unless you want to come check mine, too. One of them 404's, and
the other says I don't have permission to access that page.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank.]
Lawrence Watt-Evans
Alan Chary) wrote:
>I don't like her writing, but Diane Duane appears to be quite the babe,
>though she should keep her glasses on. (See, I *know* she reads the
>group, and she has gorgeous eyes, however her glasses provide some
>structure for her face.)
>
>http://www.wizards.com/global/images/books_bio_DianeDuane
Try http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=books/bio/DianeDuane
Lawrence Watt-Evans
Alan Chary) wrote:
>In article <1h48kv4.1khyfd1xujl6qN%aa...@avalon.pascal-central.com.invalid>,
>Aaron Davies <aa...@avalon.pascal-central.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>Judging from her jacket pic, at least, Catherine Asaro's not half bad.
>>Ah, here's a decent shot at her sff.net website:
>><http://www.sff.net/people/asaro/>.
>
>Okay, I don't know what her body looks like, but we might have a winner.
Yeah, I should have thought of her.
Mike Schilling
"Bill Snyder" <bsn...@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:uudmk1tnehoap4672...@4ax.com...
>
> One of them 404's, and
> the other says I don't have permission to access that page.
Of course you don't have permission to see her naked, you cad!
Lawrence Watt-Evans
Alan Chary) wrote:
>In article <68ulk1d3en26c6uea...@news.rcn.com>,
>Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> wrote:
>
>>2. It's been fifteen years since I last saw her in person, and it
>>would appear she hasn't aged especially well.
>
>How...diplomatic of you. Here's hoping she doesn't grep for her name on
>Usenet.
Yeah, well, I haven't aged terribly well, either.
_ berge @hotmail.com.invalid Eric D. Berge
...but no, I mis-speak. What I meant to say was "Tom Kratman would be
a good choice; you should invite him."
And maybe Leo "He-Man" Frankowski, as well.
Mike Schilling
"Lawrence Watt-Evans" <l...@sff.net> wrote in message
news:j2fmk19hhm47l39eb...@news.rcn.com...
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 02:33:46 +0000 (UTC), mch...@panix.com (Michael
> Alan Chary) wrote:
>
>>In article
>><1h48kv4.1khyfd1xujl6qN%aa...@avalon.pascal-central.com.invalid>,
>>Aaron Davies <aa...@avalon.pascal-central.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>Judging from her jacket pic, at least, Catherine Asaro's not half bad.
>>>Ah, here's a decent shot at her sff.net website:
>>><http://www.sff.net/people/asaro/>.
>>
>>Okay, I don't know what her body looks like, but we might have a winner.
>
> Yeah, I should have thought of her.
If I recall one of Asimov's anecdotes correctly, Catherine DeCamp would have
been a good candidate about 70 years ago (though I suppose she hadn't become
an SF writer yet.)
Ord...@aol.com
is that we expect people to look like people, not movie stars.
Carl Dershem
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:50:54 +0000 (UTC), mch...@panix.com (Michael
> Alan Chary) wrote:
>
>>In article <68ulk1d3en26c6uea...@news.rcn.com>,
>>Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> wrote:
>>
>>>2. It's been fifteen years since I last saw her in person, and it
>>>would appear she hasn't aged especially well.
>>
>>How...diplomatic of you. Here's hoping she doesn't grep for her name on
>>Usenet.
>
> Yeah, well, I haven't aged terribly well, either.
Sometimes it's just as well to do some things thoroughly. :)
Nancy Lebovitz
>sponsdering the reading, go to:
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CODINNERS/
>
>Or drop me a line at Ordo...@aol.com.
>
>Thanks -
>
>John Ordover
>
>
>SCIENCE FICTION/FANTASY/HORROR reading:
>
>
>Clothing Optional Dinners is sponsering an authors' reading/signing, a
>promo opportunity w/a free dinner thrown in, on Nov 11th. The catch is
>that you have to read in the nude to a room full of nudists. The plus
>is that you get to read to an interested crowd that aren't just the
>same old SF/F/H readers. Currently I have three authors signed up,
>including two-time P.K. Dick award nomineee Ann Tonsor Zeddies. Looking
>to add more to the bill.
>
participate.
--
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http://livejournal.com/users/nancylebov
My two favorite colors are "Oooooh" and "SHINY!".
Bill Snyder
I only wanted to see it for the _articles_, honest.
Michael Alan Chary
Then apparently, one) I typed it in incorrectly or two) google image
search has one again hacked a page it wasn't meant to.
In the time it took you to post that, you could have have just said "Oh,
he screwefd up the link somehow, I guess if I want to know what she looks
like, I'll type "Diane Duane" into google."
Steve Simmons
reasonable number of candidates with enough variety to satisfy
most tastes.
--
"Go, go, go, said the bird: human kind
Cannot bear very much reality."
T. S. Eliot, from Burnt Norton in "Four Quartets"
James Nicoll
Steve Simmons <s...@not.di.these.org.words> wrote:
>A random walk through the sff pages clicking female names give a
>reasonable number of candidates with enough variety to satisfy
>most tastes.
Why only female? This isn't the SF of the 1940s and 1950s.
A large percentage of the female fans and somewhat smaller percentage
of the men may want some variety.
Steve Simmons
> In article <slrndknje...@lokkur.dexter.mi.us>,
> Steve Simmons <s...@not.di.these.org.words> wrote:
> > A random walk through the sff pages clicking female names give a
> > reasonable number of candidates with enough variety to satisfy
> > most tastes.
> Why only female? This isn't the SF of the 1940s and 1950s.
> A large percentage of the female fans and somewhat smaller percentage
> of the men may want some variety.
Which they are of course welcome to. I was merely following the thread,
which (IIRC) referenced 'babes.' No woman and no gay man I know refers
to good-looking men as 'babes.' Your mileage may vary, of course.
Steve
Herr Oberst
somehow doubts the propriety.
diane...@gmail.com
stats for YW.com, and there are all these hits all of a sudden on the
"About the Author" page. And almost all of them link back _here._ So
I'm curious, and I follow the link back, and what do I find?
Cheek-by-jowl discussions of babeliciousness, busted links, facial
structure, gender bias, graceful or non-graceful aging...
Oh, wait, this is a _newsgroup,_ isn't it? (grin) [[litella]]Never
mind.[[/litella]]
(waves over heads of crowd) Hi, John! (to crowd) Sorry, guys, I'm in
Strasbourg that night. Got a date with a goose. But thanks for
thinking of me. ;)
Best! D.
diane...@gmail.com
Michael Alan Chary
<diane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>You know, I was sitting minding my own business and checking at the
>stats for YW.com, and there are all these hits all of a sudden on the
>"About the Author" page. And almost all of them link back _here._ So
Not from *my* post, because the link doesn't work :)
>I'm curious, and I follow the link back, and what do I find?
>Cheek-by-jowl discussions of babeliciousness, busted links, facial
>structure, gender bias, graceful or non-graceful aging...
I said I liked how you look. It was the other guys...
diane...@gmail.com
Michael Alan Chary wrote:
> I said I liked how you look. It was the other guys...
(chuckle) No probs. But this man is due at least a _little_ of the
credit:
http://www.garyjordanphotography.com/
Best! D.
Stewart Robert Hinsley
<s...@not.di.these.org.words> writes
>No woman and no gay man I know refers to good-looking men as 'babes.'
know.)
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
Carl Dershem
@reader1.panix.com:
>>SCIENCE FICTION/FANTASY/HORROR reading:
>>
>>Clothing Optional Dinners is sponsering an authors' reading/signing, a
>>promo opportunity w/a free dinner thrown in, on Nov 11th. The catch is
>>that you have to read in the nude to a room full of nudists. The plus
>>is that you get to read to an interested crowd that aren't just the
>>same old SF/F/H readers. Currently I have three authors signed up,
>>including two-time P.K. Dick award nomineee Ann Tonsor Zeddies. Looking
>>to add more to the bill.
>>
> It's a damned shame Heinlein isn't still around to see this and/or
> participate.
Well... maybe. For some odd reason, nude centenarians would probably not
be much of a selling point.
Then again, maybe that's the point of the "SF/Horror" crossover.
Carl Dershem
news:slrndknjs...@lokkur.dexter.mi.us:
> James <jdni...@panix.com> wrote on 10/11/05 at 14:40:
>
>> In article <slrndknje...@lokkur.dexter.mi.us>,
>> Steve Simmons <s...@not.di.these.org.words> wrote:
>
>> > A random walk through the sff pages clicking female names give a
>> > reasonable number of candidates with enough variety to satisfy
>> > most tastes.
>
>> Why only female? This isn't the SF of the 1940s and 1950s.
>> A large percentage of the female fans and somewhat smaller percentage
>> of the men may want some variety.
>
> Which they are of course welcome to. I was merely following the thread,
> which (IIRC) referenced 'babes.' No woman and no gay man I know refers
> to good-looking men as 'babes.' Your mileage may vary, of course.
True, but wasn't "Babe" a movie about a pig, and aren't at least some men
referred to as pigs?
Just keeping the options open, mind you. :)
Sea Wasp
>
> Which they are of course welcome to. I was merely following the thread,
> which (IIRC) referenced 'babes.' No woman and no gay man I know refers
> to good-looking men as 'babes.'
Referring to a goodlooking guy as a "babe" is quite common in some
female circles.
Now, my answer to the question is "YOU can go looking for the males.
I find that uninteresting and will confine myself to the gender worth
looking at."
--
Sea Wasp
/^\
;;;
Live Journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/seawasp/
Craig Richardson
wrote:
>Steve Simmons <s...@not.di.these.org.words> wrote in
>news:slrndknjs...@lokkur.dexter.mi.us:
>> Which they are of course welcome to. I was merely following the thread,
>> which (IIRC) referenced 'babes.' No woman and no gay man I know refers
>> to good-looking men as 'babes.' Your mileage may vary, of course.
>
>True, but wasn't "Babe" a movie about a pig, and aren't at least some men
>referred to as pigs?
That's "The Babe", and he certainly was a pig. Too bad John Goodman
wasn't a bit younger, although he got the "out of shape" bit spot on.
--Craig
--
"Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever." - The Replacements
Craig Richardson (crichar...@worldnet.att.net)
Nancy Lebovitz
Maybe John Ordover can explain what the audience would be wanting from
the event. I suspect it's not mostly visual aesthetics--if it were, he'd
be looking for models or actors or dancers, not authors.
David Dyer-Bennet
> I'm trying to think of SF authors I'd want to see naked, and the
> list is not long.
I can think of quite a few, myself. Not counting a number that come
immediately to mind that I *have*, and enjoyed, at one age or
another.
Not so much the big-name authors with well-established careers,
mostly. I'm sure if we think about it hard we'll probably eventually
figure out why not.
--
David Dyer-Bennet, <mailto:dd...@dd-b.net>, <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/>
RKBA: <http://noguns-nomoney.com/> <http://www.dd-b.net/carry/>
Pics: <http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/> <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/>
Dragaera/Steven Brust: <http://dragaera.info/>
David Dyer-Bennet
> In article <slrndknje...@lokkur.dexter.mi.us>,
> Steve Simmons <s...@not.di.these.org.words> wrote:
> >A random walk through the sff pages clicking female names give a
> >reasonable number of candidates with enough variety to satisfy
> >most tastes.
>
> Why only female? This isn't the SF of the 1940s and 1950s.
> A large percentage of the female fans and somewhat smaller percentage
> of the men may want some variety.
And I think that's a fine and excellent change. But I'm not really
qualified to do that research for them, they'll need to do their own.
Then again I don't seem to do all *that* well at predicting the
reactions of other heterosexual men, either.
Michael Alan Chary
Does he take all your pix? Because the one cover shot was so obviously a
glam pose, that I looked at a couple other photos.
diane...@gmail.com
Michael Alan Chary wrote:
> Does he take all your pix? Because the one cover shot was so obviously a
> glam pose, that I looked at a couple other photos.
He's new. I figured that if he was good enough for the Taoiseach, he
was good enough for me. :)
Best! D.
Ord...@aol.com
> Maybe John Ordover can explain what the audience would be wanting from
> the event. I suspect it's not mostly visual aesthetics--if it were, he'd
> be looking for models or actors or dancers, not authors.
> --
> Nancy Lebovitz http://www.nancybuttons.com
> http://livejournal.com/users/nancylebov
>
> My two favorite colors are "Oooooh" and "SHINY!".
I run a nudist dining club, where we go to different restaurants, or
museums, or comedy clubs, in the nude, once a month. In the interests
of variety an author reading seemed a nice thing to do and sort of
crosses my interests. So while I'm looking for published authors to
read excepts from novels they want to push, plus we'll have a
signing/selling at the do also.
I have three authors lined up - two small-press authors from within the
group and Ann Zeddies/Toni Anzetti (two time P.K. Dick award nominee)
as the current headliner. Truly, as nudists, we don't give a rat's ass
what you look like - that's the point. Since we only see "perfect"
people in the nude in movies and such, it creates the impression that
if your body isn't perfect you are somehow inadeuqate - nudism works
against this notion.
So, Nancy - you want in?
John
Sea Wasp
>>Maybe John Ordover can explain what the audience would be wanting from
>>the event. I suspect it's not mostly visual aesthetics--if it were, he'd
>>be looking for models or actors or dancers, not authors.
>>--
>>Nancy Lebovitz http://www.nancybuttons.com
>>http://livejournal.com/users/nancylebov
>>
>>My two favorite colors are "Oooooh" and "SHINY!".
>
>
> I run a nudist dining club,
Interesting. So the term's back to "nudist", is it? For a while I
recall it being VERY unacceptable to use that term; you were supposed
to use "Naturist" instead.
Ord...@aol.com
> Interesting. So the term's back to "nudist", is it? For a while I
> recall it being VERY unacceptable to use that term; you were supposed
> to use "Naturist" instead.
It's one of those eternal discussions, right up there with "What is
science fiction as opposed to fantasy?" "Are you a Trekkies or a
Trekker?" "Is the term sci-fi or SF?" etc. etc.
As nudist resorts exploded all over the US, I mean full-service resorts
that are pretty much like any other fancy resort except nude (we had a
two-story villa at Desert Shadows in CA), the term "naturist" which
tends to imply a back-to-nature hippie type rustic campground seemed
not to apply as well.
For example, my CODINNERS group, which you can find at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CODINNERS/
and is currently sponsered by two nudist resorts is a -nudist- group
because there's nothing "naturist" about going out to really nice
restaurants in the middel of NYC and dining in the nude.
So while opinions vary, to me a nudist is someone who doesn't want to
have to wear clothing and a naturist is someone who likes to camp out
and walk naked in the woods. Neither term is currently thought of as
politically incorrect. However, to continue this most likely past your
point of interest, the term "nudist colony" -is- considered offensive
when referring to a nudist resort or naturist campground.
Sure you can't make it? Dinner doesn't start until 7, it's a Friday
night, and your dinner will be free....:)
Sea Wasp
(much enlightening about the nudist/naturist difference)
> Sure you can't make it? Dinner doesn't start until 7, it's a Friday
> night, and your dinner will be free....:)
>
Quite. That's starting SBIR crunch time. During the big push, I often
work late every night, and even if I didn't, I'd NEVER get to the city
in 2 hours. Especially the two hours between 5 and 7...
Ord...@aol.com
the reading so far...could always use more guests or more authors...:)
NAKED PROSE NIGHT Friday, November 11th (Veteran's Day)
6:30pm to 10 pm.
NAKED PROSE: Authors Without Covers
People have asked what this will be like. I forsee a cocktail hour
from 6:45-7:45 and starting at 7pm during cocktails we will be
entertained by 15 minute readings from the published works of two
diffferent authors - Jack Cargil and Ann Zeddies. The authors will be
nude as well. The authors will then join us for dinner
after the reading, at about 7:45 or 8pm.
When: November 11th (Veteran's Day) 6:30pm to 10 pm.
Where: New York, NY
More precise details available at: