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Patrick D. Rockwell

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Jul 29, 2003, 12:59:55 AM7/29/03
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Author Ray Brown has posted a number of stories for Analog Magazine,
including "Identity Crisis" and "Don't Get Around Much Anymore" which are my
favorite. Were any of the stories in Analog EXCLUSIVELY in Analog, or can
they be found in other places? If Ray Brown has
put out any Anthologies, I'd like to know about them.

By the way, I wish that Analog would make ALL of their back issues available
on CD/DVD/E-book form someday. About 20 years ago, they were going to make
them available on Micro-Fiche, but that fell through. The lady that I spoke
to today at Dell Magazines said that in order
to do this, they'd have to contact all of the authors and get their
permission. But sooner or later, their are going to have to do something to
preserve those old paper issues before they rot, won't they? Maybe someone
should start a petition.

Speaking of petitions, I just got a two-year subscription for Analog in
E-book form, but discovered that the E-books of Analog don't have the
pictures or artwork that the actual physical magazine does. Just the cover
art. That was the reason why I called Dell Magazine. The lady that I
spoke to said that they'd add the pictures if there was a demand for it. :-)

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Patrick D. Rockwell

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Aug 1, 2003, 12:35:00 PM8/1/03
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Thanks. Eh, what is (ss), (bg), (nv)? My original question was Does his
stories appear in other publications, or just Analog? Are (ss), (bg), (nv)
the acronyms for the other publications? Thanks in advance for any further
information.

"Guy Gordon" <gor...@NOSPAMwhite-crane.com> wrote in message
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> "Patrick D. Rockwell" <hnh...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> >Author Ray Brown has posted a number of stories for Analog Magazine,
> >including "Identity Crisis" and "Don't Get Around Much Anymore" which are
my
> >favorite. Were any of the stories in Analog EXCLUSIVELY in Analog, or can
> >they be found in other places? If Ray Brown has
> >put out any Anthologies, I'd like to know about them.
>

> Big Truths (ss) Analog, Dec 1982
> Biolog: Ray Brown (bg), with Jay Kay Klein Analog, Nov 1982
> A Change of Employment (ss) [*Reformed Sufis] Analog, Aug 1982
> Cobwebs (nv) Analog, Aug 1987
> Credos (nv) [*Reformed Sufis] Analog, Aug 1983
> Don't Get Around Much Anymore (nv) Analog, Mar 1985
> Fear Therapy & Incontinence (ss) Amazing Stories, Nov 1980
> Getting Even (nv) Analog, Nov 1982
> Identity Crisis (nv) [*Reformed Sufis] Analog, Mid-Sep 1983
> Joe Haynes and the Zeitgeist (ss) Analog, Dec 7, 1981
> The Klode Factor (nv) Analog, Jul 1984
> Like a Fine Wine (ss) Analog, Oct 1983
> Looking for the Celestial Master (nv) [*Reformed Sufis] Analog, Sep
> 1982
> Love of Life (ss) If / Worlds of If, Sep-Nov 1986
> The New Program (ss) Analog, Oct 1984
> Pixie Dixon and the Mystery of the Haunted Playpen (ss) Analog, Mar
> 29, 1982
> Prosthesis (ss) Amazing Stories, Nov 1979
> Quiddities (nv) Analog, Mar 1983
> Tongues in Trees (nv) Analog, Feb 1990


>
> >By the way, I wish that Analog would make ALL of their back issues
available
> >on CD/DVD/E-book form someday. About 20 years ago, they were going to
make
> >them available on Micro-Fiche, but that fell through.
>

> No, I'm pretty sure they did produce the microfiche edition. It was
> offered for sale in many issues, and I received some direct mail
> offers, including a copy of one issue on one card. Sure wish I'd
> bought them, but I was a poor college student at the time, and the
> reader was way more than I could afford.


>
> >The lady that I spoke
> >to today at Dell Magazines said that in order
> >to do this, they'd have to contact all of the authors and get their
> >permission. But sooner or later, their are going to have to do something
to
> >preserve those old paper issues before they rot, won't they? Maybe
someone
> >should start a petition.
>

> I don't think they would have to. The copyright law has a special
> provision for exactly this purpose. That was how they were able to do
> it the first time. But of course, the law has been changed several
> times since then.
>
>
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Patrick D. Rockwell

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Aug 1, 2003, 12:48:33 PM8/1/03
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"Guy Gordon" <gor...@NOSPAMwhite-crane.com> wrote in message
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> "Patrick D. Rockwell" <hnh...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>>
> No, I'm pretty sure they did produce the microfiche edition. It was
> offered for sale in many issues, and I received some direct mail
> offers, including a copy of one issue on one card. Sure wish I'd
> bought them, but I was a poor college student at the time, and the
> reader was way more than I could afford.
>

Yeah, I guess you and I were in the same boat. Actually, I did send for and
receive the microfiche for their VERY FIRST issue. I would've saved
up for the reader and other microfiche issues, but the offer dried up and
blew away.

> >The lady that I spoke
> >to today at Dell Magazines said that in order
> >to do this, they'd have to contact all of the authors and get their
> >permission. But sooner or later, their are going to have to do something
to
> >preserve those old paper issues before they rot, won't they? Maybe
someone
> >should start a petition.
>

> I don't think they would have to. The copyright law has a special
> provision for exactly this purpose. That was how they were able to do
> it the first time. But of course, the law has been changed several
> times since then.
>

I agree with you there. Or else they would have had just as much trouble
putting it out on microfiche. Well, I don't know how things are now, but
they should at least try to preserve the old archived copies that they have.
I'm sure that they would if enough people petitioned them to do so.
:-)


William December Starr

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Aug 2, 2003, 12:01:11 AM8/2/03
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In article <UEwWa.1977$FM3...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>,

"Patrick D. Rockwell" <hnh...@prodigy.net> said:

>> Big Truths (ss) Analog, Dec 1982
>> Biolog: Ray Brown (bg), with Jay Kay Klein Analog, Nov 1982
>> A Change of Employment (ss) [*Reformed Sufis] Analog, Aug 1982
>> Cobwebs (nv) Analog, Aug 1987

etc.

> Thanks. Eh, what is (ss), (bg), (nv)? My original question was Does
> his stories appear in other publications, or just Analog? Are (ss),
> (bg), (nv) the acronyms for the other publications?

I'm not sure which database Guy was getting those listings from,
but those abbreviations are fairly standard (I think). ss is
short story, bg is biography and nv is novelette. See:

Linkname: The Locus Index to Science Fiction: 1984-1999
URL: http://www.locusmag.com/index/abbrev.html

for the Locus database's table of abbreviations, which also
helpfully contains their page/word-length definitions for novel,
novella, novelette and short story. (Fast mnemonic for those
four: the longer the term is, the shorter the corresponding story
type is. ("Vignette," though, breaks the pattern.))

-- William December Starr <wds...@panix.com>

Patrick D. Rockwell

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Aug 2, 2003, 4:40:16 PM8/2/03
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Ok, thanks. Now, does anyone know if any of Ray Brown's stories appear
anywhere outside of Analog?? :-) TIA. :-)

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Dan Goodman

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Aug 2, 2003, 4:59:03 PM8/2/03
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"Patrick D. Rockwell" <hnh...@prodigy.net> wrote in news:QkVWa.888
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> Ok, thanks. Now, does anyone know if any of Ray Brown's stories appear
> anywhere outside of Analog?? :-) TIA. :-)

From the Internet Speculative Fiction Data Base (http://isfdb.tamu.edu):

Fear Therapy & Inconvenience (1980)
1. Amazing Stories, November 1980, Elinor Mavor, 1980, $1.50

Love of Life (1986)
1. Worlds of If Science Fiction, Fantasy and Fact, September-November
1986, Clifford R. Hong, 1986, $1.95

Two stories outside Analog, sold to editors no longer around for magazines
no longer around.


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Patrick D. Rockwell

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Aug 3, 2003, 1:33:32 AM8/3/03
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Ok. Thanks again for the replies. I wonder if any of his Analog stories have
been published outside of Analog. Say, like "Identity Crisis" or "Don't Get
Around Much Anymore"? Did anyone ever read those? :-)

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Patrick D. Rockwell

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Sep 3, 2003, 2:29:18 PM9/3/03
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"Dan Goodman" <dsg...@visi.com> wrote in message
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Hmm, I wonder what happens in that case. When a magazine goes out of print,
isn't it usually archived somewhere? The Library perhaps?

Dan Goodman

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Sep 3, 2003, 3:45:33 PM9/3/03
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"Patrick D. Rockwell" <hnh...@prodigy.net> wrote in
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I can think of only two libraries likely to have it -- the MIT sf club's
library in Boston, and the sf library at Texas A&M.

Specialty sf bookstores sell old magazines. Collectors archive them, and
are sometimes willing to let other people read them.


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William December Starr

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Sep 15, 2003, 12:39:34 AM9/15/03
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In article <Xns93EB95FF547...@209.98.13.60>,
Dan Goodman <dsg...@visi.com> said:

>> Hmm, I wonder what happens in that case. When a magazine goes
>> out of print, isn't it usually archived somewhere? The Library
>> perhaps?
>
> I can think of only two libraries likely to have it -- the MIT sf
> club's library in Boston, and the sf library at Texas A&M.

MIT Science Fiction Society <http://www.mit.edu/~mitsfs/>, and we,
like MIT itself, are in Cambridge, across the river from Boston.
(I think Michael Collins made the same mistake in _Carrying the
Fire_, recalling his trips up here to talk with the Draper Labs
folks about the Apollo guidance package, so you're in good company.)

And without being at the Library to check, I'd say it's very, very
likely that we do indeed have the two volumes in question (Amazing
Stories, November 1980 and Worlds of If, September-November 1986).

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