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Happy (late) 80th, Sylvia Waugh! (British novelist: "Ormingat" trilogy)
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leno...@yahoo.com
Jan 2, 2016, 2:42:53 PM1/2/16
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She was born in 1935, but I can't find her birthdate. Her name rhymes sounds like "cough." She lives in Gateshead.
Her books have been translated into at least 12 languages, including Thai and Hebrew.
About the first Ormingat book, "Space Race":
"Eleven-year-old Thomas Derwent is moving. Not to another town or city, but to another planet. He and his father have completed their research mission on Earth, and are returning to The Other Place, the planet of Ormingat, where they came from five years ago. It was so long ago that Thomas can't remember anything about his life there. All he knows is his life on Earth, and he can't imagine leaving the places and people he loves so much. Then Thomas becomes separated from his father, and the decision of whether to stay or to go becomes his. Which will he choose?"
http://biography.jrank.org/pages/2242/Waugh-Sylvia-1935.html
Excerpt:
...The rag-doll family in Waugh's "Mennyms" books were created by a talented elderly seamstress named Kate Penshaw, and they come magically to life after their creator's death. Now they inhabit an ordinary-looking house, on an ordinary street, in a typical English town, where they go about their business undisturbed. The teenaged dolls Pilbeam and Appleby behave like typical teens, Sir Magnus like a typical grandfather, baby Googles like a typical infant, and Appleby's parents like typical parents. For forty years, in fact, the family has lived at 5 Brocklehurst Grove, London, but because they never age and remain hidden away, each of the Mennyms has become a bit bored in his or her own way. However, boredom changes to anxiety when a letter arrives from Australia announcing that the flat's owner is coming for a visit...
http://lifeonmagrs.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-mennyms-by-sylvia-waugh.html
(more on "The Mennyms")
https://www.kirkusreviews.com/search/?q=Sylvia%20Waugh;t=author
(a few Kirkus reviews)
http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/36112.Sylvia_Waugh
(covers and reader reviews)
Excerpt:
...Ms. Waugh said in an "Entertainment Weekly," interview with Lois Alter Mark, "I created the Mennyms because the world is too cynical, too lacking in magic. People with dreams are an endangered species, and I wanted to write for them. I don't want the nastiness-the stuff I see on TV."...
https://pics.librarything.com/picsizes/7a/00/7a00705288398c363766f5741774331414f6744.jpg
(photo)
http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/w/sylvia-waugh/
(some covers)
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#tbm=vid&q=%22sylvia+waugh%22
(videos about her books - I don't think she's in any of them)
Writings
"MENNYMS" SERIES
The Mennyms, Julia MacRae (London, England), 1993, Greenwillow (New York, NY), 1994.
Mennyms in the Wilderness, Julia MacRae (London, England), 1994, Greenwillow (New York, NY), 1995.
Mennyms under Siege, Julia MacRae (London, England), 1995, Greenwillow (New York, NY), 1996.
Mennyms Alone, Greenwillow (New York, NY), 1996.
Mennyms Alive, Julia MacRae (London, England), 1996, Greenwillow (New York, NY), 1997.
"ORMINGAT" TRILOGY
Space Race, Delacorte (New York, NY), 2000.
Earthborn, Delacorte (New York, NY), 2002.
Who Goes Home?, Bodley Head (London, England), 2003, Delacorte (New York, NY), 2004.
Lenona.
Her books have been translated into at least 12 languages, including Thai and Hebrew.
About the first Ormingat book, "Space Race":
"Eleven-year-old Thomas Derwent is moving. Not to another town or city, but to another planet. He and his father have completed their research mission on Earth, and are returning to The Other Place, the planet of Ormingat, where they came from five years ago. It was so long ago that Thomas can't remember anything about his life there. All he knows is his life on Earth, and he can't imagine leaving the places and people he loves so much. Then Thomas becomes separated from his father, and the decision of whether to stay or to go becomes his. Which will he choose?"
http://biography.jrank.org/pages/2242/Waugh-Sylvia-1935.html
Excerpt:
...The rag-doll family in Waugh's "Mennyms" books were created by a talented elderly seamstress named Kate Penshaw, and they come magically to life after their creator's death. Now they inhabit an ordinary-looking house, on an ordinary street, in a typical English town, where they go about their business undisturbed. The teenaged dolls Pilbeam and Appleby behave like typical teens, Sir Magnus like a typical grandfather, baby Googles like a typical infant, and Appleby's parents like typical parents. For forty years, in fact, the family has lived at 5 Brocklehurst Grove, London, but because they never age and remain hidden away, each of the Mennyms has become a bit bored in his or her own way. However, boredom changes to anxiety when a letter arrives from Australia announcing that the flat's owner is coming for a visit...
http://lifeonmagrs.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-mennyms-by-sylvia-waugh.html
(more on "The Mennyms")
https://www.kirkusreviews.com/search/?q=Sylvia%20Waugh;t=author
(a few Kirkus reviews)
http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/36112.Sylvia_Waugh
(covers and reader reviews)
Excerpt:
...Ms. Waugh said in an "Entertainment Weekly," interview with Lois Alter Mark, "I created the Mennyms because the world is too cynical, too lacking in magic. People with dreams are an endangered species, and I wanted to write for them. I don't want the nastiness-the stuff I see on TV."...
https://pics.librarything.com/picsizes/7a/00/7a00705288398c363766f5741774331414f6744.jpg
(photo)
http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/w/sylvia-waugh/
(some covers)
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#tbm=vid&q=%22sylvia+waugh%22
(videos about her books - I don't think she's in any of them)
Writings
"MENNYMS" SERIES
The Mennyms, Julia MacRae (London, England), 1993, Greenwillow (New York, NY), 1994.
Mennyms in the Wilderness, Julia MacRae (London, England), 1994, Greenwillow (New York, NY), 1995.
Mennyms under Siege, Julia MacRae (London, England), 1995, Greenwillow (New York, NY), 1996.
Mennyms Alone, Greenwillow (New York, NY), 1996.
Mennyms Alive, Julia MacRae (London, England), 1996, Greenwillow (New York, NY), 1997.
"ORMINGAT" TRILOGY
Space Race, Delacorte (New York, NY), 2000.
Earthborn, Delacorte (New York, NY), 2002.
Who Goes Home?, Bodley Head (London, England), 2003, Delacorte (New York, NY), 2004.
Lenona.
Robert Carnegie
Jan 2, 2016, 5:28:23 PM1/2/16
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On Saturday, 2 January 2016 19:42:53 UTC, leno...@yahoo.com wrote:
> ...The rag-doll family in Waugh's "Mennyms" books were created by a talented elderly seamstress named Kate Penshaw, and they come magically to life after their creator's death. Now they inhabit an ordinary-looking house, on an ordinary street, in a typical English town, where they go about their business undisturbed. The teenaged dolls Pilbeam and Appleby behave like typical teens, Sir Magnus like a typical grandfather, baby Googles like a typical infant, and Appleby's parents like typical parents. For forty years, in fact, the family has lived at 5 Brocklehurst Grove, London, but because they never age and remain hidden away, each of the Mennyms has become a bit bored in his or her own way. However, boredom changes to anxiety when a letter arrives from Australia announcing that the flat's owner is coming for a visit...
"baby Googles"?
> ...The rag-doll family in Waugh's "Mennyms" books were created by a talented elderly seamstress named Kate Penshaw, and they come magically to life after their creator's death. Now they inhabit an ordinary-looking house, on an ordinary street, in a typical English town, where they go about their business undisturbed. The teenaged dolls Pilbeam and Appleby behave like typical teens, Sir Magnus like a typical grandfather, baby Googles like a typical infant, and Appleby's parents like typical parents. For forty years, in fact, the family has lived at 5 Brocklehurst Grove, London, but because they never age and remain hidden away, each of the Mennyms has become a bit bored in his or her own way. However, boredom changes to anxiety when a letter arrives from Australia announcing that the flat's owner is coming for a visit...
> "MENNYMS" SERIES
>
> The Mennyms, Julia MacRae (London, England), 1993, Greenwillow (New York, NY), 1994.
>
> Mennyms in the Wilderness, Julia MacRae (London, England), 1994, Greenwillow (New York, NY), 1995.
>
> Mennyms under Siege, Julia MacRae (London, England), 1995, Greenwillow (New York, NY), 1996.
>
> Mennyms Alone, Greenwillow (New York, NY), 1996.
>
> Mennyms Alive, Julia MacRae (London, England), 1996, Greenwillow (New York, NY), 1997.
Wikipedia - "Google began in January 1996 as a research project by
Larry Page and Sergey Brin when they were both PhD students at
Stanford University in Stanford, California."
It appears that Waugh got there slightly earlier?
Titus G
Jan 2, 2016, 8:49:04 PM1/2/16
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The baby referred to as Googles was a typical infant, not a search
engine. A further clue was that this information was provided in a list
of family members described by functions clearly related to their age.
Therefore I believe Googles was a young person and not the result of the
secretive activities of two horny male students.
Robert Carnegie
Jan 2, 2016, 9:10:12 PM1/2/16
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maximum share of the proceeds of the infringing exercise.
Although, as you point out, they're in different businesses.
It's my impression that - for instance - people only started
suing J K Rowling for "stealing" their own work after several
of her books were published and she was making big, big money.
Logically, at that point, even a goofy challenge is worth
settling, to make it go away.
And so the author of baby Googles could have, and maybe did,
get reasonably rich by... coincidence.
Jack Bohn
Jan 3, 2016, 11:02:08 AM1/3/16
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Might have to share the pproceeds with Barney Google (with or without the goo-goo-googley eyes).
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-Jack
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-Jack
William December Starr
Jan 3, 2016, 11:16:23 AM1/3/16
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In article <n69uhg$o22$1...@dont-email.me>,
Titus G <no...@nowhere.com> said:
> Robert Carnegie wrote:
>
>> Sir Magnus like a typical grandfather, baby Googles like a
>> typical infant, and Appleby's parents like typical parents.
>
in which case baby Googling is something that, like a typical
grandfather, Sir Magnus does like a typical infant.
(Did I mention that when I was in seventh grade English I *loved*
sentence diagramming?)
-- wds
Titus G <no...@nowhere.com> said:
> Robert Carnegie wrote:
>
>> Sir Magnus like a typical grandfather, baby Googles like a
>> typical infant, and Appleby's parents like typical parents.
>
> I will respectfully disagree for the following reasons. The baby
> referred to as Googles was a typical infant, not a search
> engine. A further clue was that this information was provided in a
> list of family members described by functions clearly related to
> their age. Therefore I believe Googles was a young person and not
> the result of the secretive activities of two horny male students.
Or, we could parse "baby Googles" as an adverb-verb construction,
> referred to as Googles was a typical infant, not a search
> engine. A further clue was that this information was provided in a
> list of family members described by functions clearly related to
> their age. Therefore I believe Googles was a young person and not
> the result of the secretive activities of two horny male students.
in which case baby Googling is something that, like a typical
grandfather, Sir Magnus does like a typical infant.
(Did I mention that when I was in seventh grade English I *loved*
sentence diagramming?)
-- wds
Titus G
Jan 3, 2016, 11:28:55 PM1/3/16
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On 4/01/2016 5:16 a.m., William December Starr wrote:
> In article <n69uhg$o22$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Titus G <no...@nowhere.com> said:
>
>> Robert Carnegie wrote:
>>
>>> Sir Magnus like a typical grandfather, baby Googles like a
>>> typical infant, and Appleby's parents like typical parents.
>>
>> I will respectfully disagree for the following reasons. The baby
>> referred to as Googles was a typical infant, not a search
>> engine. A further clue was that this information was provided in a
>> list of family members described by functions clearly related to
>> their age. Therefore I believe Googles was a young person and not
>> the result of the secretive activities of two horny male students.
>
> Or, we could parse "baby Googles" as an adverb-verb construction,
> in which case baby Googling is something that, like a typical
> grandfather, Sir Magnus does like a typical infant.
No we couldn't. Not with the original sentence which you have shortened
> In article <n69uhg$o22$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Titus G <no...@nowhere.com> said:
>
>> Robert Carnegie wrote:
>>
>>> Sir Magnus like a typical grandfather, baby Googles like a
>>> typical infant, and Appleby's parents like typical parents.
>>
>> I will respectfully disagree for the following reasons. The baby
>> referred to as Googles was a typical infant, not a search
>> engine. A further clue was that this information was provided in a
>> list of family members described by functions clearly related to
>> their age. Therefore I believe Googles was a young person and not
>> the result of the secretive activities of two horny male students.
>
> Or, we could parse "baby Googles" as an adverb-verb construction,
> in which case baby Googling is something that, like a typical
> grandfather, Sir Magnus does like a typical infant.
without warning. Here it is.
"The teenaged dolls Pilbeam and Appleby behave like typical teens, Sir
Magnus like a typical grandfather, baby Googles like a typical infant,
and Appleby's parents like typical parents."
snip
and Appleby's parents like typical parents."
Moriarty
Jan 4, 2016, 1:51:47 AM1/4/16
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On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 6:42:53 AM UTC+11, leno...@yahoo.com wrote:
> She was born in 1935, but I can't find her birthdate. Her name rhymes sounds like "cough."
It does? Every other Waugh I've ever come across, including the famous Evelyn, Auberon, Steve and Mark all pronounce their surnames pretty much the same as "war".
> She was born in 1935, but I can't find her birthdate. Her name rhymes sounds like "cough."
-Moriarty
Steve Coltrin
Jan 4, 2016, 2:27:43 AM1/4/16
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begin fnord
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Steve Coltrin spco...@omcl.org Google Groups killfiled here
"A group known as the League of Human Dignity helped arrange for Deuel
to be driven to a local livestock scale, where he could be weighed."
- Associated Press
wds...@panix.com (William December Starr) writes:
> (Did I mention that when I was in seventh grade English I *loved*
> sentence diagramming?)
X-bar theory would make you absolutely plotz, then.
> (Did I mention that when I was in seventh grade English I *loved*
> sentence diagramming?)
--
Steve Coltrin spco...@omcl.org Google Groups killfiled here
"A group known as the League of Human Dignity helped arrange for Deuel
to be driven to a local livestock scale, where he could be weighed."
- Associated Press
Kevrob
Jan 4, 2016, 4:12:42 PM1/4/16
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On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 11:02:08 AM UTC-5, Jack Bohn wrote:
> Might have to share the pproceeds with Barney Google (with or without the goo-goo-googley eyes).
The Barney Google and Snuffy Smith strip debuted as "Take Barney Google, F'rinstance" in 1919.
> Might have to share the pproceeds with Barney Google (with or without the goo-goo-googley eyes).
My understanding is that the search engine is an intentional misspelling,
so that it could be trademarked, of the mathematical term googol.
Wiki says the different spelling was a mistake.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Google_and_Snuffy_Smith
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Googol
Kevin R
David DeLaney
Jan 6, 2016, 12:38:24 AM1/6/16
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ambiguity-related language fun, did you?
Dave, and time flies like an arrow, and fruit flies like a banana
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