Weber & White's Starfire series -- internal chronology?

[William December Starr]

The ISFDB lists David Weber and Steve White's Starfire series as:

* Starfire
+ The Stars at War (2004) [O/2,3] by David Weber and Steve White
+ The Stars at War II (2005) [O/1,4 (expanded)] by Steve White and
David Weber
+ 1 Insurrection (1990) by David Weber and Steve White also
appeared as:
o Variant Title: Insurrection (revised and expanded) (2005)
[as by Steve White and David Weber ]
+ 2 Crusade (1992) by David Weber and Steve White
+ 3 In Death Ground (1997) by David Weber and Steve White
+ 4 The Shiva Option (2002) by David Weber and Steve White
+ 5 Exodus (2007) by Shirley Meier and Steve White

Is there any internal chronology of the books that differs from this
publication-order one?

(I'm processing the two "Stars at War" omnibus editions for MITSFS and I'm
wondering if there was any sane reason for the [2,3], [1,4] order of the
novels in them.)

-- wds

[Dan Swartzendruber]

In article <h2o2u5$433$1...@panix3.panix.com>, wds...@panix.com says...

Internal chronology is: Crusade, IDG, TSO and Insurrection. I think
Exodus is a later (and not very good, IMO) novel in the same universe.
I don't remember the contents of the two Stars at War collections?

[Taki Kogoma]

On 2009-07-04, Dan Swartzendruber <dsw...@druber.com>
allegedly proclaimed to rec.arts.sf.written:

SaW1 == _Crusade_ + IDG
SaW2 == TSO + (revised/expanded) _Insurrection_

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[William December Starr]

In article <slrnh4von6...@chishio.swcp.com>,
Taki Kogoma <qu...@swcp.com> said:

> On 2009-07-04, Dan Swartzendruber <dsw...@druber.com> [said:]

>
>> Internal chronology is: Crusade, IDG, TSO and Insurrection. I
>> think Exodus is a later (and not very good, IMO) novel in the
>> same universe. I don't remember the contents of the two Stars at
>> War collections?

Thank you.

> SaW1 == _Crusade_ + IDG
> SaW2 == TSO + (revised/expanded) _Insurrection_

Is the _Insurrection_ in Stars at War II truly revised, as in "the
authors revisited the text and rewrote some of it," or did Weber
and/or White just put back material that had been cut out of the
original manuscript for publication back in 1990?

It's not that important a question, really; I'm just wondering
whether it's more accurate to refer to the 1990 and 2005 versions as
"abridged" and "uncut," respectively, or "original" and "revised."

-- wds, Chief Hair-Splitter, 2nd Class, when it suits me

[Dan Swartzendruber]

In article <h2osj8$k5c$1...@panix3.panix.com>, wds...@panix.com says...

That I can't say, as I haven't read either volume. I have to admit
there were some issues that needed to be retconned (don't remember
specifically which) due to the insurrection being written first but
occurring later in their universe - possibly he/they addressed some of
those.

[Taki Kogoma]

On 2009-07-05, William December Starr <wds...@panix.com>
allegedly proclaimed to rec.arts.sf.written:

> In article <slrnh4von6...@chishio.swcp.com>,
> Taki Kogoma <qu...@swcp.com> said:
>> On 2009-07-04, Dan Swartzendruber <dsw...@druber.com> [said:]
>>> Internal chronology is: Crusade, IDG, TSO and Insurrection. I
>>> think Exodus is a later (and not very good, IMO) novel in the
>>> same universe. I don't remember the contents of the two Stars at
>>> War collections?
>
> Thank you.
>
>> SaW1 == _Crusade_ + IDG
>> SaW2 == TSO + (revised/expanded) _Insurrection_
>
> Is the _Insurrection_ in Stars at War II truly revised, as in "the
> authors revisited the text and rewrote some of it," or did Weber
> and/or White just put back material that had been cut out of the
> original manuscript for publication back in 1990?

There were major additions to account for material from IDG and TSO.
I have no idea of how much of it dates back to the original m/s.