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Pelle Johansson

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Nov 12, 2001, 9:40:50 AM11/12/01
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This is a new news reader for me so I'm sorry if it doesn't format properly. I've found no preference about line breaking, so unfortunately it might not do it at all. Luckily we're not all using terminals. :)

I've been thinking on what will happen when Rand dies. We know he's a hero of the Wheel, Arthur Hawkwing told him so. From Birgitte we know that the heroes live on in TAR, and that they then remember all their past lives. It is also possible for a hero to exit TAR into the real world (although mighty painful). Finally, the Ael'finns told Rand "to live, you must die".

Well, I think you can see where I'm heading. When Rand dies, he will go into TAR. Suddenly he will have all of Lews Therin's (and previous dragons) knowledge. For all we know, he might even remember the last 3rd age. This would put him on more or less equal footing with the DO when it comes to knowledge. Only problem is he'd be dead and bound to TAR.

Well this is where the power-girls kick in. With all the marvels they come up with (well Rand too I suppose), doing something already done before, and one of them even witnessed, doesn't seem too big a challenge. They might even do away with the pain part.

And of course Rand doesn't know he'll end up in TAR when he dies, so someone has to tell him first (yeah, like that'll ever happen).
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Pelle Johansson
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Ryan Chadwick

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Nov 12, 2001, 2:50:10 PM11/12/01
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In article <9son1i$ntg$2...@curofix.ida.liu.se>, mo...@morth.nu says...

> This is a new news reader for me so I'm sorry if it doesn't format properly. I've found no preference about line breaking, so unfortunately it might not do it at all. Luckily we're not all using terminals. :)
>


Ok, I really think you need to find another new newsreader. I'm not
sure I've ever seen anyone post with line lengths that long. (not that
I have too much experence). First maybe check the help file in that
one though, maybe it will give you some insight on the settings? If
you havn't done this already.

HTH

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Ryan Chadwick

Etherman

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Nov 12, 2001, 6:28:56 PM11/12/01
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"Pelle Johansson" <mo...@morth.nu> wrote in message
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> Well, I think you can see where I'm heading. When Rand dies, he will
go into TAR. Suddenly he will have all of Lews Therin's (and previous
dragons) knowledge. For all we know, he might even remember the last
3rd age. This would put him on more or less equal footing with the DO
when it comes to knowledge. Only problem is he'd be dead and bound to
TAR.

Just think about what is going to happen when Mat blows the Horn and
summons all the Heroes of the Horn.
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Jonathan Berlinghoff

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Nov 13, 2001, 6:07:42 AM11/13/01
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"Pelle Johansson" <mo...@morth.nu> wrote in message
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Not a bad theory. I'll give you points for originality because this is
quite different than the other theories I've heard about his 'death'. I tend
to believe he'll fulfill this prophecy in a some what similar way Mat did
(to die and live again). Not saying he'll die the exact same way, but that
he'll die in a way that isn't complete death and some how be brought back.
Anyway, excellent theory, but get a new news reader. ;)

-Jonathan Berlinghoff


Gilbert Gaw

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Nov 14, 2001, 4:06:14 AM11/14/01
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I think what would happen is that Rand would have to stage some sort
event that would make the whole of Randland think that he's dead. This
would have to happen after he's defeated the Dark One of course. I
also think that Logain, with all the glory that Min's been seeing,
would rise as a leader of some sort, probably the Asha'man or maybe
the whole channeling community, Aes Sedai and Asha'man alike. Maybe
even claiming the title of Tamyrlin?


"Jonathan Berlinghoff" <catal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2a7I7.11986$n06.87...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>...

Ed Buckley

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Nov 14, 2001, 11:56:07 AM11/14/01
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"Jonathan Berlinghoff" <catal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2a7I7.11986$n06.87...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>...
> "Pelle Johansson" <mo...@morth.nu> wrote in message
> news:9son1i$ntg$2...@curofix.ida.liu.se...

<snip newswriter issues and such>

> > Well this is where the power-girls kick in. With all the marvels they come
> up with (well Rand too I suppose), doing something already done before, and
> one of them even witnessed, doesn't seem too big a challenge. They might
> even do away with the pain part.
> >
> > And of course Rand doesn't know he'll end up in TAR when he dies, so
> someone has to tell him first (yeah, like that'll ever happen).
>
>
> Not a bad theory. I'll give you points for originality because this is
> quite different than the other theories I've heard about his 'death'. I tend
> to believe he'll fulfill this prophecy in a some what similar way Mat did
> (to die and live again). Not saying he'll die the exact same way, but that
> he'll die in a way that isn't complete death and some how be brought back.
> Anyway, excellent theory, but get a new news reader. ;)
>
> -Jonathan Berlinghoff

Actually to go one further on this theory, Nynaeve has the ego and the
tools to do it. Firstly she wants to heal someone 'three days dead'.
Secondly she knows the weave to dropkick someone out of T'a'R into the
real world. (She saw Moghedian use it on Birgette)

Of course the downside to this theory is that Min would go mad and
head into the blight to kill as many Trollocs as possible, or possibly
go insane and slap some sense into the
$PREFFERRED_GROUP_OF_ANNOYING_CHANNELERS. I'm not sure exactly how the
bond breaking on a non militant person works. Also there isn't any
specific evidence as to what happens when the bond between two
channelers breaks, whether one is grief stricken as a channeler or
psychopathic as a warder.

Pelle Johansson

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Nov 15, 2001, 1:29:16 PM11/15/01
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pala...@hotmail.com wrote:

>
>Actually to go one further on this theory, Nynaeve has the ego and the
>tools to do it. Firstly she wants to heal someone 'three days dead'.
>Secondly she knows the weave to dropkick someone out of T'a'R into the
>real world. (She saw Moghedian use it on Birgette)
>

I'm not positive but I think Nynaeve's block was stopping her from
seeing flows at the time.
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Pelle Johansson
<mo...@morth.nu>


Tallis

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Nov 15, 2001, 8:38:44 PM11/15/01
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Pelle Johansson <mo...@morth.nu> wrote in message news:<9t11hs$iec$1...@curofix.ida.liu.se>...

Yup. Nynaeve could only see flows when angry, and we definitely know
she was anything *but* angry at that time. She was terrified. I don't
think Nynaeve can rip anyone out of TAR, not unless she sees someone
do it *now*; and then that would be quite redundant.

-Tallis

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