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Ben M.

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Jul 23, 2001, 1:01:11 PM7/23/01
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i noticed it first time round, and im reading WH again...am i the only
to have noticed that RJ mentions the word "breasts" far more than is
necessary in his latest book...no its not a complaint its just an
observation =)

no i cant be bothered to bring any sources, read it and u will see

/me runs

Etherman

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Jul 23, 2001, 3:03:25 PM7/23/01
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"Ben M." <wea...@crossfire.co.uk> wrote in message
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In PoD he was obsessed with fighting and vomit. In ACoS he explored
the male rape fantasy (i.e. a male getting raped by a beautiful
woman). In LoC he focussed on lesbianism (Aran'gar is a man trapped
in a woman's body, the Amyrlin raising ceremony reads like a
Bacchanalian orgy). I'd say that RJ is writing like a sexually
frustrated 13 year old beta male. Could it be that RJ has died and his
pubescent son has taken over his mantle?


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Rouk

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Jul 23, 2001, 3:06:28 PM7/23/01
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Ben M. wrote:

This has already been discussed a few weeks ago, i think... But I agree
with you. And i also don't care.
To my mind, that kind of obsession can't be considered as harmful...

Donald J. HARLOW

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Jul 23, 2001, 3:53:05 PM7/23/01
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"Etherman" <ether...@hotmail.com> skribis en mesařo
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> In LoC he focussed on lesbianism (... the Amyrlin raising ceremony reads
like a
> Bacchanalian orgy)

????

Just because all the women in the room took off their blouses to show that
they were actually women????

Son, you obviously ain't never _seen_ a Bacchanalian orgy!!!! The Amyrlin
raising ceremony is to a Bacchanalian orgy what CBS is to The Playboy
Channel.

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Danil

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Jul 23, 2001, 3:56:31 PM7/23/01
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Etherman says...

> Could it be that RJ has died and his
> pubescent son has taken over his mantle?

Unlikely - were that the case, books would get written more quickly, and
more plot would happen.

Jason Millar

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Jul 23, 2001, 5:38:39 PM7/23/01
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"Rouk" <cu...@iie.cnam.fr> wrote in message
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> Ben M. wrote:
>
> > i noticed it first time round, and im reading WH again...am i the only
> > to have noticed that RJ mentions the word "breasts" far more than is
> > necessary in his latest book...no its not a complaint its just an
> > observation =)
> >
> > no i cant be bothered to bring any sources, read it and u will see
>
> This has already been discussed a few weeks ago, i think... But I agree
> with you.

No doubt you seen his similar obsession with necklines, sweating, cold
imperious stares...and is there any such thing as an Ugly Aes Sedai?


Scott Spiegelberg

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Jul 23, 2001, 6:17:32 PM7/23/01
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Donald J. HARLOW wrote:

> Son, you obviously ain't never _seen_ a Bacchanalian orgy!!!! The Amyrlin
> raising ceremony is to a Bacchanalian orgy what CBS is to The Playboy
> Channel.

This reminds me of the typical programmatic interpretation of Beethoven's
Seventh Symphony as a country wedding:

Movement I: Guests arrive, some dancing
Movement II: Solemn processional and ceremony
Movement III: Country dance following ceremony
Movement IV: Bacchanalian orgy

Apparently I've been going to the wrong weddings!

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Rouk

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Jul 23, 2001, 6:31:10 PM7/23/01
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Jason Millar wrote:

> No doubt you seen his similar obsession with necklines, sweating, cold
> imperious stares...and is there any such thing as an Ugly Aes Sedai?

Even the worst must be nicely plump.
Most of the women are pretty, still.

Dean Chamberlain

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Jul 23, 2001, 8:51:13 PM7/23/01
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In article <a094e110.01072...@posting.google.com>,
wea...@crossfire.co.uk says...

I found a link of a message board recently to a study that showed that
men who looked at breasts regularly lived longer and were generally
healther than those who don't :

http://www.mynippon.com/men/lookbreasts.htm


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scifantasy

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Jul 23, 2001, 10:00:51 PM7/23/01
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Dean Chamberlain e-mused:

>I found a link of a message board recently to a study that showed that
>men who looked at breasts regularly lived longer and were generally
>healther than those who don't :


They develop a higher tolerance for pain.

--scifantasy
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Arlia...@webtv.net

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Jul 24, 2001, 8:38:56 AM7/24/01
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"Snp everything for this random stupid joke"

Actually, Robert Jordan mentions breasts so often in the books because I
payed him to.

I like breasts, I especially like Nynaeve's breasts.... I am sure Lan
likes them almost as much as I do... Err...

No. I never said any of that, really.

Sorry, I felt the need to share a bad joke. Usenet does that to me from
time to time.

Eric

Jonathan Dupont

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Jul 24, 2001, 3:32:20 PM7/24/01
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wea...@crossfire.co.uk (Ben M.) wrote in message news:<a094e110.01072...@posting.google.com>...

Nah.... he's been doing it in every single one of the books (although
he's nto as bad as Frank Herbert got in the later Dune books -
shudder). Every single new book seems to introduce a new ceremony /
strange foreign culture ritual or bathing which involves naked
females.

John Y. Lee

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Jul 25, 2001, 6:27:36 PM7/25/01
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In article <a1655a06.01072...@posting.google.com>,
jonatha...@hotmail.com says...

About 5 years ago a friend of mine told me that he had gone to a
local Jordan booksigning. When it came to his turn to have his
book signed, by impulse my friend asked Jordan why he always seems
to describe breasts in such detail. Mr. Jordan actually answered,
that when he was a young boy (11-12?), a friend of his mother's was
a very well endowed lady. Whenever his mother's friend would visit
the family home, this woman would always greet him by grabbing him
and holding his face to her breasts in great big hug. Supposedly
from than on, he has had a deep appreciation of the female breast.

Whether or not my friend is giving me BS or not, I have no clue.
The story is interesting though in a gossipy way and sounds sort
of plausible maybe.

John Y. Lee

Keith Huntzinger

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Jul 29, 2001, 11:33:20 PM7/29/01
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"Ben M." wrote:

Being a healthy heterosexual male, I'd like to point out that breast size
happens to be quite a defining characteristic in a female. If I'm given
a description of how pretty her face is, how nice her breasts are, and
how plump her hips are (hips being Jordan's word for ass), I really don't
care about the rest of her. It's much more meaningful to me than
describing someone's "nicely turned calf".

Now favoring breastsize as a descriptor is well and dandy for guys, but
what about girls? Growing up with older sisters has taught me girls are
very competitive amongst each other, and they know the importance of
breastsize to guys. So they are just as aware of the breastsize in
another girl as a guy is.

I had never thought this would the topic on which I'd make my first
post...some things just get your blood flowin more than others ;)

Keith

Esque

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Jul 30, 2001, 12:40:17 AM7/30/01
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Keith Huntzinger <hunt...@mines.edu> deserves a cookie for saying:

> Being a healthy heterosexual male, I'd like to point out that breast size
> happens to be quite a defining characteristic in a female.

s/quite a/the only/;

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jamie

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Jul 30, 2001, 3:58:10 PM7/30/01
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Ben M. <wea...@crossfire.co.uk> wrote:
> i noticed it first time round, and im reading WH again...am i the only
> to have noticed that RJ mentions the word "breasts" far more than is
> necessary in his latest book...no its not a complaint its just an
> observation =)

I think he's more obsessed with women vomiting at the slightest
provocation.

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"There's a seeker born every minute."

Aaron F. Bourque

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Jul 30, 2001, 7:05:07 PM7/30/01
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From: ja...@sure.spam-me-silly.net (jamie)

>Ben M. <wea...@crossfire.co.uk> wrote:
>>i noticed it first time round, and im reading WH again...am i the
>>only to have noticed that RJ mentions the word "breasts" far more
>>than is necessary in his latest book...no its not a complaint its just
>>an observation =)
>
>I think he's more obsessed with women vomiting at the slightest
>provocation.

If true, then he's had some really weird experiences with the opposite
sex . . .

Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque; or he should never take his
clothes off. Ever.

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looks like hell."--Hiroyuki Nishigaki

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Ryan Bruels

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Jul 31, 2001, 4:12:04 PM7/31/01
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in article slrn9mbf2h...@bozo2.local.net, jamie at
ja...@sure.spam-me-silly.net wrote on 7/30/01 1:58 PM:

> I think he's more obsessed with women vomiting at the slightest
> provocation.

No, no...that's "sicking up". ;)

On a side note, I'd hardly call some of the things that the girls put up
with "slightest provocations". I recall Nynaeve tossed her cookies a couple
of times during her course with Moghedien-On-A-Leash . I have to commend
her. After a few months, with the fear and rage of one of the bloody
Forsaken merrily passing through my head, I would not only be vomiting at
every available opportunity, but would probably have long gone insane.

Ryan

Tessy

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Jul 31, 2001, 7:25:28 PM7/31/01
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On 30 Jul 2001 23:05:07 GMT, aaronb...@aol.comstat (Aaron F.
Bourque) wrote:

>From: ja...@sure.spam-me-silly.net (jamie)
>
>>Ben M. <wea...@crossfire.co.uk> wrote:
>>>i noticed it first time round, and im reading WH again...am i the
>>>only to have noticed that RJ mentions the word "breasts" far more
>>>than is necessary in his latest book...no its not a complaint its just
>>>an observation =)
>>
>>I think he's more obsessed with women vomiting at the slightest
>>provocation.
>
>If true, then he's had some really weird experiences with the opposite
>sex . . .

I think the term you are looking for is called "wolfing". I could
give you a graphic description of exactly what this entails but this
is, after all, a family newsgroup.
--
Tessy @ nospam.com

jamie

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Jul 31, 2001, 7:51:05 PM7/31/01
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EEK! a FAMILY newsgroup? When did that happen?

If somebody starts calling for group huggies and kissypoos,
I'll have to puke like Delana hearing about Egwene's victory over
the hall.

Jamie Bowden

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Jul 31, 2001, 9:37:50 PM7/31/01
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Tessy wrote:

> I think the term you are looking for is called "wolfing". I could
> give you a graphic description of exactly what this entails but this
> is, after all, a family newsgroup.

Like hell it is.

Jamie Bowden
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Aaron F. Bourque

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Jul 31, 2001, 9:43:06 PM7/31/01
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Tessy wrote:

> I think the term you are looking for is called "wolfing". I could
> give you a graphic description of exactly what this entails but this
> is, after all, a family newsgroup.

I'm not looking for any term. In fact, I am now very, very afraid . . .

Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque

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Richard Boye'

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Jul 31, 2001, 9:46:56 PM7/31/01
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Jamie Bowden wrote:
>
> On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Tessy wrote:
>
> > I think the term you are looking for is called "wolfing". I could
> > give you a graphic description of exactly what this entails but this
> > is, after all, a family newsgroup.
>
> Like hell it is.


Unless she means the Manson Family.

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I need to drink to stop the voices in my head."

Frank van Schie

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Tessy wrote:
>
> I think the term you are looking for is called "wolfing". I could
> give you a graphic description of exactly what this entails but this
> is, after all, a family newsgroup.

Welcome to, *snap snap* the Addams Family.

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Frank

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