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Harold Groot
May 22, 2013, 7:19:17 PM5/22/13
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OK, the final note about "everyone should have been expecting this" is
cute (even if the "this" is a very tired cliche). But getting TO that
point meant they had to use another tired cliche - that the supposedly
competent hero chooses this week to participate in overlooking the
BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS piece of gear that he ought to get hold of.
He's a police officer. He has access to the standard Riot Control
Gear. Think that the riot helmet with full (transparent) faceplate
might not be something that SOMEONE in that group could have thought
of? Considering that they KNEW the manner of attack they'd be facing?
It's not as if it would change the ending - they were already dealing
with minions that were strong and violent. It could get
knocked/grabbed off in the fight. But to have it simply be IGNORED
just makes everyone look stupid. That COULD have been an excellent
time for his fiance' (now learning about things) to interject a
common-sense bit of helpful advice, but NOOoooo....
Oh, I realize that doing the obviously sensible thing goes against the
TV tropes if it makes them look less heroic and photogenic. It's just
every now and then I get pretty disappointed when I see it in action
ONE MORE TIME. They could have equipped the whole team, perhaps even
have one save Julia - then his gets knocked off and we're back at the
same ending.
cute (even if the "this" is a very tired cliche). But getting TO that
point meant they had to use another tired cliche - that the supposedly
competent hero chooses this week to participate in overlooking the
BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS piece of gear that he ought to get hold of.
He's a police officer. He has access to the standard Riot Control
Gear. Think that the riot helmet with full (transparent) faceplate
might not be something that SOMEONE in that group could have thought
of? Considering that they KNEW the manner of attack they'd be facing?
It's not as if it would change the ending - they were already dealing
with minions that were strong and violent. It could get
knocked/grabbed off in the fight. But to have it simply be IGNORED
just makes everyone look stupid. That COULD have been an excellent
time for his fiance' (now learning about things) to interject a
common-sense bit of helpful advice, but NOOoooo....
Oh, I realize that doing the obviously sensible thing goes against the
TV tropes if it makes them look less heroic and photogenic. It's just
every now and then I get pretty disappointed when I see it in action
ONE MORE TIME. They could have equipped the whole team, perhaps even
have one save Julia - then his gets knocked off and we're back at the
same ending.
suzeeq
May 22, 2013, 8:26:36 PM5/22/13
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Harold Groot wrote:
> OK, the final note about "everyone should have been expecting this" is
> cute (even if the "this" is a very tired cliche).
They were referring to the 'To be continued...' of course.
> OK, the final note about "everyone should have been expecting this" is
> cute (even if the "this" is a very tired cliche).
Harold Groot
May 23, 2013, 6:18:25 AM5/23/13
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days. In earlier days such things were pretty rare - but after Dallas
and "Who shot JR?" it became FAR too common. Such things generally do
NOT make me more likely to tune in come next fall. It just leaves me
with a vague sense of dissatisfaction. Make a good show, I'll be there
next Sept. Make a bad show, I won't. And a cliffhanger does not change
a bad show to a good show. I'm far more likely to come back if I'm
feeling good overall about the show. Wrap up a couple of storylines
with a nice ending to them and I get the feeling that I'm in good
hands. Throw in a gratuitous cliffhanger and it almost seems an
admission that they can't write a satisfying show, so they're going
for gadgets instead. Oh, it isn't that way 100% of the time - but
it's that way TOO MUCH of the time. "A man is known by the company he
keeps" - and with this type of season-ender, they're in worse company
than they ought to be.
Breaking the 4th wall and ADMITTING it was something you don't see
very often, but that doesn't change the fact that I dislike this type
of season-ender.
Adam H. Kerman
Jun 2, 2013, 11:51:41 AM6/2/13
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with Nick was dragged out way, too long. In the last three episodes,
it was all on her, with tons of help from Monroe. Nick made no effort at
all. They truly wrote out all the romance from their romance.
When are they going to clue in Reggie Lee? He's seen quite a lot of it.
Juliette trying to help was amusing. What kind of Wessen are you?
It's now gone beyond ridiculous that Rosalee has to use a particular
device per anti-venom or anti-toxin, since the Baron historically creates
zombies en masse to foment revolution, you'd apparently never be in a
situation in which you'd encounter just one.
How does taking over Portland make for a coup in Vienna or Prague?
Dimensional Traveler
Jun 3, 2013, 7:59:08 PM6/3/13
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> Harold Groot <que...@infionline.net> wrote:
>
>> OK, the final note about "everyone should have been expecting this" is
>> cute (even if the "this" is a very tired cliche). But getting TO that
>> point meant they had to use another tired cliche - that the supposedly
>> competent hero chooses this week to participate in overlooking the
>> BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS piece of gear that he ought to get hold of.
>
>> He's a police officer. He has access to the standard Riot Control
>> Gear. Think that the riot helmet with full (transparent) faceplate
>> might not be something that SOMEONE in that group could have thought
>> of? Considering that they KNEW the manner of attack they'd be facing?
>> It's not as if it would change the ending - they were already dealing
>> with minions that were strong and violent. It could get
>> knocked/grabbed off in the fight. But to have it simply be IGNORED
>> just makes everyone look stupid. That COULD have been an excellent
>> time for his fiance' (now learning about things) to interject a
>> common-sense bit of helpful advice, but NOOoooo....
>
He'd have access to riot gear when it was issued to him if he was
>
>> OK, the final note about "everyone should have been expecting this" is
>> cute (even if the "this" is a very tired cliche). But getting TO that
>> point meant they had to use another tired cliche - that the supposedly
>> competent hero chooses this week to participate in overlooking the
>> BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS piece of gear that he ought to get hold of.
>
>> He's a police officer. He has access to the standard Riot Control
>> Gear. Think that the riot helmet with full (transparent) faceplate
>> might not be something that SOMEONE in that group could have thought
>> of? Considering that they KNEW the manner of attack they'd be facing?
>> It's not as if it would change the ending - they were already dealing
>> with minions that were strong and violent. It could get
>> knocked/grabbed off in the fight. But to have it simply be IGNORED
>> just makes everyone look stupid. That COULD have been an excellent
>> time for his fiance' (now learning about things) to interject a
>> common-sense bit of helpful advice, but NOOoooo....
>
assigned to riot duty. He can't just walk into the armory and grab some
riot gear just because he's a cop. If he did it would be something
like, "Uh, excuse me Detective, where are you going with that?"
"I'm following a lead on my murder investigation."
"In riot gear? Without SWAT or backup?"
"Yup."
"Hey Captain!!!"
Plus the fact that riot duty is for UNIFORMED officers, not
plain-clothes detectives.
--
The 'Enterprise' crew in the 2009 Star Trek are adrenaline addicted,
hyper-active teenagers with ADD whose Ritalin got replaced with
methamphetamine, displaying a level of discipline that a Somali pirate
wouldn't tolerate.
David Johnston
Jun 3, 2013, 8:17:43 PM6/3/13
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just as well.
Dimensional Traveler
Jun 4, 2013, 11:55:35 PM6/4/13
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limitations to them. Limited range of vision, severe reduction in
hearing, can't really talk clearly while wearing one, etc., so, no, a
motorcycle helmet would NOT have worked just as well.
David Johnston
Jun 5, 2013, 11:26:11 AM6/5/13
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On 6/4/2013 9:55 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>> He'd have access to riot gear when it was issued to him if he was
>>> assigned to riot duty. He can't just walk into the armory and grab some
>>> riot gear just because he's a cop. If he did it would be something
>>> like, "Uh, excuse me Detective, where are you going with that?"
>>> "I'm following a lead on my murder investigation."
>>> "In riot gear? Without SWAT or backup?"
>>> "Yup."
>>> "Hey Captain!!!"
>>>
>>> Plus the fact that riot duty is for UNIFORMED officers, not
>>> plain-clothes detectives.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> While you are correct, I note that a motorcycle helmet would have worked
>> just as well.
>
> As someone who has worn a motorcycle helmet a lot, there are severe
> limitations to them. Limited range of vision, severe reduction in
> hearing, can't really talk clearly while wearing one, etc., so, no, a
> motorcycle helmet would NOT have worked just as well.
>
I was unaware that those were not limitations of riot helmets.
>>> He'd have access to riot gear when it was issued to him if he was
>>> assigned to riot duty. He can't just walk into the armory and grab some
>>> riot gear just because he's a cop. If he did it would be something
>>> like, "Uh, excuse me Detective, where are you going with that?"
>>> "I'm following a lead on my murder investigation."
>>> "In riot gear? Without SWAT or backup?"
>>> "Yup."
>>> "Hey Captain!!!"
>>>
>>> Plus the fact that riot duty is for UNIFORMED officers, not
>>> plain-clothes detectives.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> While you are correct, I note that a motorcycle helmet would have worked
>> just as well.
>
> As someone who has worn a motorcycle helmet a lot, there are severe
> limitations to them. Limited range of vision, severe reduction in
> hearing, can't really talk clearly while wearing one, etc., so, no, a
> motorcycle helmet would NOT have worked just as well.
>
Dimensional Traveler
Jun 5, 2013, 11:33:49 PM6/5/13
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riot helmet:
http://www.armynnavy.com/catalog/catalog/images/riot%20helmet.jpg
Note the _lack_ of thick padding pressing against the cheeks or around
the ears.
This is a typical motorcycle helmet:
http://people.rit.edu/~pxn2927/320/project2/media2/Helmets/Airoh_Force_.jpg
Note the differences in the size of the visors and how the motorcycle
helmet restricts peripheral vision.
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