Time Trax
Dara Naraghi
the back of a DC comic. Anyone have any more info on this? It's a
time travelling cop thing, which by itself doesn't sound very interesting.
Dara
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Dino Ciccone
I saw a commercial on VH1 that said check your local listings but I can't seem to find it anywhere.
Anything would be appreciated.
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Robert C. Ritter
In a previous article, cic...@vader.egr.uri.edu (Dino Ciccone) says:
>Does Anyone know when this is on?
>I saw a commercial on VH1 that said check your local listings but I can't seem to find it anywhere.
>Anything would be appreciated.
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Time Trax is part of the new Prime Time Entertainment Network.
On many of the PTEN contracted stations it will be shown THIS week.
The show was uplinked via sat. this past weekend.
On MOST of the independent stations it is scheduled as a 2 hour movie.
On many Network affiliated stations it is being scheduled as a 2 part
episode. Regular 1 hour episodes will begin in 2 weeks (After the
movie premier of Kung Fu: The Legend Continues).
22 Episodes of the show have been ordered.
Rob
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Trax premiere. It's actually surprisingly good. Well, it's surprising that
it's not bad, anyway, which is what I expect these days from any new show.
I mean, if DS9 was barely worth watching, and that's from a very experienced
group, how can anyone else do better?
They actually show the outdoors in the future - computer graphics, but
reasonably well done, and most shows don't even try to show the future like
that. The technology is - well, I won't go so far as to say believable, but
a lot better thought out than usual. The flying cars don't use any kind of
magical "antigravity" at least. The acting is reasonable, the dialog hasn't
made me laugh yet, and the story is nearly original.
I'm not even sure whether or not to bother watching the series. The movie
is good enough to watch on its own; the series looks to be based on catching
the criminal of the week, while no doubt helping out some troubled citizen
from 1993. Unless they get some really good writers to come up with
something different, which has happened before, but not in this country (not
recently anyhow). Maybe I should just preserve the memory of the movie?
. <<<<Infinite K>>>>
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Barry Mishkind
> Time Trax is part of the new Prime Time Entertainment Network.
>
> On many of the PTEN contracted stations it will be shown THIS week.
> The show was uplinked via sat. this past weekend.
>
> 22 Episodes of the show have been ordered.
Do you know when the "normal" uplinks are?
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Satin Zeine-Johnson
>Does Anyone know when this is on?
>I saw a commercial on VH1 that said check your local listings but I can't seem to find it anywhere.
>Anything would be appreciated.
In Colorado Springs, Colorado (land of the "geez I hope the snow stops long
enough to make it home from work today! <sigh>"), Time Trax is showing
tonight (Tuesday, Jan 19th, 1993) at 9 pm Mountain Time, on the local FOX
affilliate. Hope this helps!
Satin
Michael McAleese
it the old thumbs down. It wasn't exactly that it was bad... it just
wasn't good.
I'm glad I taped Space Rangers, which was running concurrently.
Does anyone else think that was a classic "James T. Kirk vs. the Alien
Race" episode? The show is cheesy, pure fromage, but I enjoyed the one
hour of it far more that the two hours of Time Trax. (Like how I kept
that digression returning to the subject line?)
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Ann M. Davis
|> After viewing the two hour debut movie of Time Trax, I have to give
|> it the old thumbs down. It wasn't exactly that it was bad... it just
|> wasn't good.
Actually I loved it. You can't build a story on SPFX alone. The SF
elements created a solid atmosphere and background for the story. I liked
the acting and the actors. I thought it was very well done.
Points I got a kick out of:
SPOILERS
The Pentagon as a prison. I found this very believable.
The modern version of peepholes for doors.
Selma's disguise as a credit card
Anyway, does anyone know if/when this will be a series?
Ann
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r...@watson.ibm.com
Sorry, I liked it, a lot. I didn't tape Space Ranger, I just watched
Time Trax instead. I would rather not put the wear and tear on my VCR
to record SR. If its on against 90210 and some other network trash,
I will probably watch it. However, if Time Trax stays in this timeslot,
then I will just miss Space Rangers. It just ain't that good, IMHO.
As for TT, well, I thought it was good. It portrayed a pretty good
vision of the world 200 years from now as far as technology goes.
It portrays a pretty dismal social picture, though. Kinda the
looks like the writers do not share Roddenbury's optimism. Anyway,
the show was good. The SELMA character was very good, and it
appears that it will provide a number of plot possibilities.
As far as the ratings of the scifi pilots so far, here you
go:
Space Rangers=5/10 Time Trax=8/10 Deep Space 9=9/10
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John Hawkinson
WWOR-9 (NYC) which is airing on Warner's new PTEN (Prime Time
Entertainment Network) syndication network. Anyway, I was wondering if
anybody had any responses?
Summary: Story set in future (2193) where criminals
are dissapearing from a particular jurisdiction. It turns out
that they're being sent back in time by a scientist who's
using the money to finance his time research. Things happen
and the main character, Captain Darien Somebody (?) ends
up going back in time after them. One of the things is that
the drug which allows people to go back and forth, TXP,
is apparently lethal after two uses, meaning each individual can
only make one round trip. Presumably future shows will be about
this guy rounding up the other criminals (96 or so left) stuck
in 1993.
Thoughts had:
Are they actually going back to a ``parallel universe'' or
to the same universe? If it's a parallel universe, then how can
those people take out ads in the {Washington Post} and have them show
up? If its the same universe, shouldn't all the cops be alarmed that
if the criminals succeed then the world as they know it would change
forever?
They mention this time-slowing ability but they never seem
to apply it...
The SELMA ``thing'' is intriguing, but somehow it brings back
memories of the ``computer-that-saves-the-day'' (i.e. Knight Rider).
I guess that's about it...
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Kitc...@ssd0.laafb.af.mil
even has a hologram companion, although Al from QL can stay in focus a lot
better than Selma can.)
Actually, I sort of enjoyed this show, but how much of the future will we get
to see in upcoming episodes? If it sticks to 1993, it's going to be pretty
much just another cop show. Will Annie be returning? You can probably bet
on it. I give it a C+.
But, several questions came to mind as I watched this show:
1 - Why did they insist on calling it the Smithsonian Institute? It's the
Smithsonian *Institution*.
2 - It's the Museum of American History, not the Museum of History. (or else
the Museum of Natural History, but that's not really a history museum.)
3 - How did the door of the bathroom stall that Damien (sp?) materialized
into get locked from the inside?
4 - That red brick building they kept showing as the "Museum of History" is
an administrative building, not a place that has displays (well, I think
there are some small displays, but the "History Museum" is on the other side
of the Mall.)
5 - If whites are a despised minority, why are all of the cops white? And
they're all male, also. (Well, there was that one brief appearance of a
black female cop showing Elissa (sp?) into Damien's office, but she seemed
more like an usher than a cop.)
6 - 200 years from now, they still use *paper* mail?!
7 - They still have books? The dust jackets and everything else about them
looked just like modern books do. Nothing will change in the publishing
industry in 200 years?
8 - Why didn't the National Archives have those old newspapers on microfiche,
microdot, or some form of computer storage (CD-ROM)? Would they really allow
just anybody to walk in off the street and ask to play around with the
originals of 200-year-old newspapers? And what are newspapers doing in the
National Archives anyway? They should have gone to the Library of Congress,
or even to the Washington Post itself, if it still exists in 2193.
9 - How come Doctor S (never could figure out his name - Sahmbi?) needed the
machine to go into the past, but Sepp the Nazi didn't? Sepp just licked the
envelope, and he was gone.
10 - Has Michael Warren *really* gone bald since Hill Street Blues? And
haven't they found a cure yet in 200 years? I always ask the same question
about Jean-Luc Picard.
11 - Why did they badmouth Aaron Burr? He wasn't a traitor!
12 - The chronology of Damien's popping into the Smithsonian went all askew.
Selma said he arrived sometime after 9:00 PM, then Annie says something about
how they've grilled him for several hours, then they go out to dinner
(breakfast, maybe, but not dinner!), and the waiter says, "I go home at
eleven, sir." Get the time straight!
13 - The Secret Service guy just took a stranger's word for it that he was
CIA, just because he flashed a badge? And then goes on into detail about the
President's schedule? What's the CIA doing there, anyway? It is illegal for
the CIA to be involved in domestic situations.
14 - What was that about Sepp getting three doses of that drug? He had one
when he popped into 1993, and one when he popped out. Where did the third
one come from?
15 - Why, if Damien was born in 2160, does the photo of his "mother" show her
dressed in 19th century clothes? You can bet that this little time jaunt had
something to do with Damien showing up as a foundling at the orphanage.
16 - I wonder, if there is a 200-year limit on the use of that drug, couldn't
they just set up their operation in 1993 and send other people back to 1793?
And there were too many commercials! And the narration at the beginning was
annoying.
Well, we'll see about the next episode. If it turns into just another cop
show, I'll stop watching.
Rick Kitchen
kitc...@ssd0.laafb.af.mil
mel rupinski
>In <1993Jan21....@sol.UVic.CA> mmca...@cs16.UVic.CA (Michael McAleese) writes:
>> After viewing the two hour debut movie of Time Trax, I have to give
>>it the old thumbs down. It wasn't exactly that it was bad... it just
>>wasn't good.
>> I'm glad I taped Space Rangers, which was running concurrently.
>>Does anyone else think that was a classic "James T. Kirk vs. the Alien
>>Race" episode? The show is cheesy, pure fromage, but I enjoyed the one
>>hour of it far more that the two hours of Time Trax. (Like how I kept
>>that digression returning to the subject line?)
>>
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>
[stuff about Space Rangers deleted]
>As for TT, well, I thought it was good. It portrayed a pretty good
>vision of the world 200 years from now as far as technology goes.
>It portrays a pretty dismal social picture, though. Kinda the
>looks like the writers do not share Roddenbury's optimism. Anyway,
>the show was good. The SELMA character was very good, and it
>appears that it will provide a number of plot possibilities.
I thing that really impressed me about their vision of the future was the
racial slur of "blanco". Apparently the writers do have a brain and realize
that Hispanics will eventually become the ethnic majority in this country,
as is evidenced by current population trends, and acted accordingly. I don't
think we would have seen such realism in other sci-fi shows.
[plot ratings deleted]
mtr
>Regards,
>Tom Rogers
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Oh yeah! I know a _lot_ of guys who look googly eyed at a woman's
picture, get to spend the night with her, and then decide that they've
lost everything worth living for. Please. I was glad someone thought
about it later, although one sentence didn't make up for it.
All in all I thought the show was pretty well written, with the
exception of the opening. I've never seen/or read a script that simply
listed the complete back story of a character. I've been lectured
about heavy handed exposition before but now I have perfect evidence
of why not to do it. Geez it was boring! I wonder how many people
didn't make it through those 5 minutes. (My personal opinion: the
beginning was after the computer recited history of Dorian. We didn't
need the teaser.)
However, once we got past that I thought it was pretty well written. I
really liked the version of the future that the show presented. I
thought it was interesting and well thought out. It's a shame we
probably won't spend too much more time in 2193 during the run of the
series.
Once we got to 1993 this weren't quite as interesting
Now to the lead actor. UUUUUUGGGHHH! During his first tirade I kept
wondering how bad the other actors up for the role must have been.
It's frightening. I hope Darian can spend the rest of the series
perfectly happy because real emotions take him beyond his abilities.
I'll watch it again. Somewhere (I think TV Guide's little pseudo
reviews) it was stated that this show was as bad as Space Rangers. I
disagree.
Jakob Nielsen
mmca...@cs16.UVic.CA writes:
> After viewing the two hour debut movie of Time Trax, I have to give
> it the old thumbs down. It wasn't exactly that it was bad... it just
> wasn't good.
There were also several errors showing lack of care in production. The
worst (given its prominence) was probably the sign saying "Smithsonian
Institute" when in fact it is called the "Smithsonian Institution". Another
error (that admittedly might only be caught by a Scandinavian) is the scene
where somebody gets the Nobel prize in physics and the diploma reads
"Awarded by the Norwegian Nobel committee." The Norwegian Nobel committee
only awards the peace price, whereas the other prizes are awarded by the
*Swedish* Nobel committee.
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Geoff Bronner
> After viewing the two hour debut movie of Time Trax, I have to give
>it the old thumbs down. It wasn't exactly that it was bad... it just
>wasn't good.
> I'm glad I taped Space Rangers, which was running concurrently.
I'm very sad that I choose to watch Time Trax instead of Space Rangers. It
was WORSE! How is this possible?
Yuck.
-Geoff
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Gregory Allen Ruderman
>>, mmca...@cs16.UVic.CA (Michael McAleese) writes:
>|> After viewing the two hour debut movie of Time Trax, I have to give
>|> it the old thumbs down. It wasn't exactly that it was bad... it just
>|> wasn't good.
>
>
>Actually I loved it. You can't build a story on SPFX alone. The SF
>elements created a solid atmosphere and background for the story. I liked
>the acting and the actors. I thought it was very well done.
>
>Points I got a kick out of:
>SPOILERS
>
>
>
>The Pentagon as a prison. I found this very believable.
>
>The modern version of peepholes for doors.
>
>Selma's disguise as a credit card
>
>
realistic thing in the whole intro. And the fact that they paid more than
just lip service to it. Take another look at the compositions of the crowd
at the U.N. President's assassination...
>
>Anyway, does anyone know if/when this will be a series?
>
>
In the Albany, NY area, the second episode airs this saturday....
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Robert C. Ritter
In a previous article, Kitc...@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL () says:
>> Actually, I sort of enjoyed this show, but how much of the
>> future will we get to see in upcoming episodes? If it sticks to
>> 1993, it's going to be pretty much just another cop show.
>> Will Annie be returning? You can probably bet on it. I give
>> it a C+.
>> But, several questions came to mind as I watched this show:
>> 1 - Why did they insist on calling it the Smithsonian Institute?
>> It's the Smithsonian *Institution*.
>>
>> 2 - It's the Museum of American History, not the Museum of History.
>> (or else the Museum of Natural History, but that's not really a
>> history museum.)
>>
>> 3 - How did the door of the bathroom stall that Damien (sp?)
>> materialized into get locked from the inside?
It was just a YATI (Yet another Trek inconsistency) You have a show from
a Trek writer you get a show from a trek writer/producer.
>> 4 - That red brick building they kept showing as the "Museum of
>> History" is an administrative building, not a place that has
>> displays (well, I think there are some small displays, but the
>> "History Museum" is on the other side of the Mall.)
(see #'s 1 & 2)
>> 5 - If whites are a despised minority, why are all of the
>> cops white?
How about they are considered EXPENDABLE!
>> And they're all male, also. (Well, there was that one brief
>> appearance of a black female cop showing Elissa (sp?) into
>> Damien's office, but she seemed more like an usher than a cop.)
>>
>> 6 - 200 years from now, they still use *paper* mail?!
>>
Would YOU let ANYONE in ISOLATION have access to a COMPUTER NET?
>> 7 - They still have books? The dust jackets and everything else
>> about them looked just like modern books do. Nothing will change
>> in the publishing industry in 200 years?
Why Not. There is Far More to a Book than just the information.
James T. Kirk had BOOKS, His LAWYER PREFERRED THEM TO Data Files
on a computer.
>> 8 - Why didn't the National Archives have those old newspapers
>> on microfiche, microdot, or some form of computer storage (CD-ROM)?
We know little about the world of Time Trax's time. It seemed to me
that is wasn't a brighter and better world. But it also seems to me,
that the DATA STORAGE of NEWSPAPERS would have been for the STORIES
and NEWS NOT THE CLASSIFIED ADS. Perhaps the Classified Ads were not
stored in the data files.
>> Would they really allow just anybody to walk in off the street
>> and ask to play around with the originals of 200-year-old
>> newspapers?
No, BUT THEY DIDN'T DO THIS IN THE SHOW, EITHER.
The Doctor was a noted scientists and scholar. The Library/archives CALLED
HIM and TOLD HIM THE MATERIAL HE REQUESTED WAS NOW AVAILABLE.
>> And what are newspapers doing in the National Archives anyway?
>> They should have gone to the Library of Congress,
>> or even to the Washington Post itself, if it still exists in 2193.
Another YATI. The year 2193 is not important to the story. Yes it would be
WONDERFUL if everything made sense and was consistent, but we're not
getting HILL STREET BLUES or even KOJAK here.
>> 9 - How come Doctor S (never could figure out his name - Sahmbi?)
>> needed the machine to go into the past, but Sepp the Nazi didn't?
>> Sepp just licked the envelope, and he was gone.
Sepp needed the machine see related comment below.
>> 11 - Why did they badmouth Aaron Burr? He wasn't a traitor!
I'll have to check back on the tape, but what I remember them saying was
his GUN was the one that Killed Lincoln. (used by Booth).
12 - The chronology of Damien's popping into the Smithsonian went all askew.
Selma said he arrived sometime after 9:00 PM, then Annie says something about
how they've grilled him for several hours, then they go out to dinner
(breakfast, maybe, but not dinner!), and the waiter says, "I go home at
eleven, sir." Get the time straight!
>> 13 - The Secret Service guy just took a stranger's word for it that
>> he was CIA, just because he flashed a badge? And then goes on into
>> detail about the President's schedule? What's the CIA doing there,
>> anyway? It is illegal for the CIA to be involved in domestic situations.
The CIA has been involved in Domestic matters (even though illegal) for
YEARS... I don't see them stopping now.
>> 14 - What was that about Sepp getting three doses of that drug? He
>> had one when he popped into 1993, and one when he popped out. Where
>> did the third one come from?
Trip # 1 from the CELL to TIME TRAX (a RECALL)
Trip # 2 from TIME TRAX TO 1993.
Trip # 3 (Possibly fatal) From 1993 to 2193 (Time Trax).
>> Well, we'll see about the next episode. If it turns into just
>> another cop show, I'll stop watching.
What this show needs from the viewers is for them to look at it like the
Adams Family. Enjoy it for the laughs.
Kevin Maurice Hudson
I kind of liked it, but as you can tell by the number of questions that
it left unanswered, it could use a continuity editor.
K> 3 - How did the door of the bathroom stall that Damien (sp?)
K> materialized into get locked from the inside?
We wondered about this one too. Definitely an oversight.
K> 6 - 200 years from now, they still use *paper* mail?!
Hey, we've got to find some way to keep the tree population down.
K> 9 - How come Doctor S (never could figure out his name - Sahmbi?)
K> needed the machine to go into the past, but Sepp the Nazi didn't?
K> Sepp just licked the envelope, and he was gone.
K> 14 - What was that about Sepp getting three doses of that drug? He
K> had one when he popped into 1993, and one when he popped out.
K> Where did the third one come from?
Sepp took one dose in the prison. He was then 'retrieved' from the
'past' by Dr. S, who waited until he could be almost certain that Sepp
had taken the drug before he activated the retrieval program. Sepp then
appeared a little later in the future (that evening), where Dr. S sent
him back 200 years. This was not obvious and probably ended up on the
cutting room floor.
K> 12 - The chronology of Damien's popping into the Smithsonian went
K> all askew. Selma said he arrived sometime after 9:00 PM, then
K> Annie says something about how they've grilled him for several
K> hours, then they go out to dinner (breakfast, maybe, but not
K> dinner!), and the waiter says, "I go home at eleven, sir." Get the
K> time straight!
You'd think that in a show involvin time travel that they'd watch for
such blatent errors.
K> 16 - I wonder, if there is a 200-year limit on the use of that
K> drug, couldn't they just set up their operation in 1993 and send
K> other people back to 1793?
Nice idea. But then one never said that the Military was intelligent
enough to see this possible use. Also, it then relies on a set of relay
stations that are somewhat vulnerable.
K> And there were too many commercials! And the narration at the
K> beginning was annoying.
I think that the narration will be the opening sequence. Unfortunately
they didn't come up with a special opening sequence for the premier.
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In response to #14 where you wondered where Sepp would have
3 jumps?
1: From prison to the Doctor.
2: From the Doctor's Lab to the Past
3: To the future.
r...@watson.ibm.com
>1 - Why did they insist on calling it the Smithsonian Institute? It's the
>Smithsonian *Institution*.
No, it is 'Institute', isn't it?
>10 - Has Michael Warren *really* gone bald since Hill Street Blues? And
>haven't they found a cure yet in 200 years? I always ask the same question
>about Jean-Luc Picard.
He is that bald.
Greg Bole
> Hmmm... we seem to have The Six Million Dollar Man meets Quantum Leap
Hey, pretty good general description, but I think the "cop show" description
is going to fit a little better...
> 1 - Why did they insist on calling it the Smithsonian Institute? It's the
> Smithsonian *Institution*.
They got me, I've *always* called it the Smithsonian Institute.
> 3 - How did the door of the bathroom stall that Damien (sp?) materialized
> into get locked from the inside?
For that matter how did he transfer in that position? And what kept him from
materializing *in* something solid?
> Damien's office
I think it's Darrian...he's not the anti-christ. :^)
> 8 - Why didn't the National Archives have those old newspapers on microfiche,
> microdot, or some form of computer storage (CD-ROM)?
Agreed, this really bugged me...just plain stupid.
> 9 - How come Doctor S (never could figure out his name - Sahmbi?) needed the
> machine to go into the past, but Sepp the Nazi didn't? Sepp just licked the
> envelope, and he was gone.
I couldn't figger out this one either.
> 12 - The chronology of Damien's popping into the Smithsonian went all askew.
> Selma said he arrived sometime after 9:00 PM, then Annie says something about
> how they've grilled him for several hours, then they go out to dinner
> (breakfast, maybe, but not dinner!), and the waiter says, "I go home at
> eleven, sir." Get the time straight!
Good point! I hadn't noticed. "Oh continuity person!"
> 14 - What was that about Sepp getting three doses of that drug? He had one
> when he popped into 1993, and one when he popped out. Where did the third
> one come from?
I didn't follow this either, they did seem to rush alot by you in a hurry.
> 16 - I wonder, if there is a 200-year limit on the use of that drug, couldn't
> they just set up their operation in 1993 and send other people back to 1793?
Because they couldn't get the chemicals/equipment? Remember the good doctor
left in a "bit of a hurry".
> And the narration at the beginning was annoying.
Someone else bitched about this too, I really liked it! Thought the whole
intro was pretty cool. I liked how they repeated his entrance sequence.
Could someone explain his "car alarm" gizmo to me? What do the three buttons
do? I didn't catch that part.
I enjoyed this show, thought it was well written except for the entire
love interest character. She was handled very poorly, and there were
far too many coincidences/twists to her character.
Another thing that bugged me. I understand the "signifigance" of using
John Wilkes Booth's gun, but come on!!! Ever heard of misfires? You
realize how old that gun was? It wasn't maintained, cleaned, anything...
there's no way a proffesional would have used that gun over a baretta, or
especially one of those nifty beam weapons they showed.
And I really liked the "occidental" martial art. Looked very good in the
fight between Darrian and Sepp.
Greg Bole "I always wanted to be an orphan. I could
bo...@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu have, if it wasn't for my parents."
Gary Oldman in _Prick Up Your Ears_
Joe Poutre
In the immortal word of Calvin and Hobbes:
Oog.
Bad acting, bad dialog, bad directing, bad plot, bad almost everything.
I thought Space Rangers was bad, but an entire cast from the William
Shatner School of Overacting? Almost every cop show cliche in the book?
Plus a maudlin death, two _really_, _really_ easy women, obvious
music, an uncomfortable introduction to the character - I felt like
I was being read a resume, no realization of potential time paradoxes
by the supposedly hyper-intelligent scientist, and a bad guy screaming
his head off while in a coma.
Good? One line (about the Cubs), and the premise. It had some
potential. Most of the effects were good, although the door that
got blown in looked like styrofoam. The mildly interesting moral
dilemma (sp?) proposed by the psycho crook at the end.
Now, I fear, it becomes a simple cop show, with a supercop and his
trusty computer sidekick. Why doesn't he have some kind of sub-dermal
implant near his ear, so that she can talk to him with out being
heard by anyone in a 10 meter radius? Or even an earplug?
I guess we could have fun discussing the future society, and his
physiology. Why is he so much "better" than us? Genetic manipulation,
spinach, flouridated water, ultraviolet radiation, General Nutrition
Center (TM), or something else?
Final opinion: unless it gets better and/or had PTEN's full backing, I
give it less time than Space Rangers.
Four down: Highlander, Space Rangers, DS9 and Time Trax
Three to go: Tomorrow People, Babylon 5, and Speilberg's (sp)
future version of Sea Hunt. (By this time my lungs were
gasping for air.)
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Jeff Hildebrand
>In article <1993Jan21.1...@athena.mit.edu> a...@space.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis) writes:
>>Actually I loved it. You can't build a story on SPFX alone. The SF
>>elements created a solid atmosphere and background for the story. I liked
>>the acting and the actors. I thought it was very well done.
I have to majorly disagree here. It was all surface level stuff which
fails to hold when you look further. If they tried for all flash with no
real substance I wouldn't have minded. But they tried to add substance and
failed which is worse.
>>Points I got a kick out of:
>>SPOILERS
>>
>>
>>
>>The Pentagon as a prison. I found this very believable.
>>
>>The modern version of peepholes for doors.
>>
>>Selma's disguise as a credit card
All cute one-off lines or visual gags. Building a believable future
society is going to take a lot more than that.
> I enjoyed the allusions to whites as a minority. probably the most
>realistic thing in the whole intro. And the fact that they paid more than
>just lip service to it. Take another look at the compositions of the crowd
>at the U.N. President's assassination...
The fact that that particular scene is the exception not the rule
shows that it was lip service of a most obnoxious type. Among the police
officers, the scientists, heck even the wealthy criminals check out the
racial mix. Looks much more current than 2193. If they had done this right
it would have been a great touch to add to the series. As it is it would
have been much better if they hadn't brought it up at all.
Too much of the story looked like current day America with a few
do-dads thrown on top and a few lines trying to make things appear to
have changed. (Look at the difference in clothes between 1793 and 1993 and
then compare the clothes in 1993 and 2193 portrayed in the series. Hardly
any major changes. Certainly not enough.) The whole thing wound up falling
way short on lots of grounds.
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Eric E. Katz
Time Trax is going to be a series. In my area, it will be in two
weeks from the pilot movie. They are showing a pilot for Kung Fu
the week after the pilot and then Time Trax will be in the pilot.
Eric E. Katz
I might as well put in my 2 cents here. I believe Burr was a
traitor. I think he tried to create a union of the westrern area
to create a new country. I'm not entirely sure. About not
jumping to 1993 and then to another year, they would have to send
the machine to 1993 and besides that if the criminals are
successful, they would want to go to the new parallel reality
(thats where it fits in, they come from one future and could end
up creating one) and once in the new reality, they could go
into the future and be the rulers.
Gregory M. Paris
One thing I'd like cleared up is this business about "parallel universe
theory." I'm happy to accept that it was a parallel universe that they
travelled to (and created?) by going into the past, which I figured was
what they were saying when they kept repeating the phrase "parallel
universe theory". But if so, then how could they communicate with
the future (i.e., the future of the original universe) by use of
want ads? Hmmm...
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>Could someone explain his "car alarm" gizmo to me? What do the three buttons
>do? I didn't catch that part.
First button fires a 'stun pellet' (or somesuch thing) that will keep
a person unconcious for a few minutes. Second button will knock
someone out for a few hours. Third button fires a pellet of the time-
travel drug (prepping the target for retrieval) and it also
conveniently puts the target into a coma (for how long was not
stated).
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In article <1993Jan21.1...@athena.mit.edu> a...@space.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis) writes:
>Points I got a kick out of:
>SPOILERS
>The Pentagon as a prison. I found this very believable.
Done for effect, to make a point. Not realistic but funny. Also, the
effect was very well done - especially the way the spotlights moved.
>The modern version of peepholes for doors.
A bit overdone, again a case of overstating a point, but also good.
>Selma's disguise as a credit card
Just silly. I mean, within the context of the story, it was a good idea,
but here in real life, it was a cheap joke.
>Anyway, does anyone know if/when this will be a series?
The movie was the pilot for a series.
Parts I liked (some of which I touched on before):
The flying cars were supported by air, not magical antigravity or rocketry.
(the technological speculations in general were well thought out, if a bit
less than ambitious considering that the setting is a full two centuries in
the future)
Caucasians being the minority race was not overdone; it was a valid part of
the story without being harped on tediously. Similarly, the old cliche of
references to a past nuclear war or other societal collapse was avoided for
ONCE.
The computer displays were large, ubiquitous, quick and reasonably well done
considering TV budgetary restraints. Unlike the tiny TV screens in the Star
Trek movies, the ridiculous jumpy Mac-like "animation" of anything moving on a
Trek TNG display, or etc.
I posted earlier (while still watching the movie) that the dialogue hadn't
made me laugh. Well, there were a few bits later on that did, mostly any
time the main character was talking to the girl. But overall, it wasn't
nearly as bad as the run-of-the-mill. Characterizations, too, were at least
average if not better.
The computer pal Selma could've been worse; she doesn't make wisecracks
constantly, at least. The flickery display is a bit of an affectation but is
part of the "character" I guess. There's a lot of potential usefulness in a
gadget like that and they actually had some nifty ideas in the movie.
As I also said, so long as the writing doesn't fall into the trap of helping
the person of the week while catching the criminal of the week, which it
likely will, it could be really good. I hope they continue to show the
future society from time to time, though I see few excuses to do so in the
subsequent shows.
William R. Cruce
I find it difficult to believe that in 2193 (or whenever) people
who want to read 1993 newspapers will be allowed to check out yellowed
old actual PAPER copies. Most libraries now keep old periodicals on
microfilm or microfiche. Surely in a world with credit card sized
computers there will be a better way to read old newspapers...
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Maybe due to some time paradox thingy, you need the actual paper printed
the actual day the news was created, and not some reproduced facsimile.
Just a guess. It don't make sense. It was obviously a writers oversite.
However, in Washington DC, I would bet that 200 year old papers would
exist along with micro-fiche, or some other storage technology.
Also, who gives a crap? My pet peeve is people who watch scifi shows
looking for low tech inconsistencies. The show was still very enjoyable
with this very small oversight. Do you feel superior now that you
have pointed out this error?
Greg Bole
> In <1993Jan22.0...@uhura.neoucom.edu> wl...@uhura.neoucom.edu
(William R. Cruce) writes:
>>
>>I find it difficult to believe that in 2193 (or whenever) people
>>who want to read 1993 newspapers will be allowed to check out yellowed
> Also, who gives a crap? My pet peeve is people who watch scifi shows
> looking for low tech inconsistencies. The show was still very enjoyable
> with this very small oversight. Do you feel superior now that you
> have pointed out this error?
*yawn* This sort of thing has been re-hashed again and again. Listen Tom,
here's a fact of the Net: some people like to point out small errors, others
don't. Why don't you relax and let people talk about what they want, and not
flame them and insult them.
If looking for small logical mistakes in TV shows doesn't float your boat, then
ignore those posts. If it bothers you THAT much, just don't read this
newsgroup.
bay...@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
>even has a hologram companion, although Al from QL can stay in focus a lot
>better than Selma can.)
[cut]
>But, several questions came to mind as I watched this show:
obvious to me.
>5 - If whites are a despised minority, why are all of the cops white? And
>they're all male, also. (Well, there was that one brief appearance of a
>black female cop showing Elissa (sp?) into Damien's office, but she seemed
>more like an usher than a cop.)
The best question of the lot! I was wondering about that myself.
My best guess: as in the modern day military*, the police force was
a bit better at implementing "equal opportunity" than society as a
whole. Therefore there are a disproportionate number of minority
members. Do I compliment the society or insult the casting director
that the "blankos" were proportionately represented in the police
leadership positions (not like the present military)?
* I'm talking about the volunteer force, not the fact that poor
folk couldn't legally dodge the draft in the Vietnam era.
>
>6 - 200 years from now, they still use *paper* mail?!
They'd hardly allow a criminal computer access -- too much mischief
to get into. The letters might have been delivered as "parcels."
I mean, there may not be a large enough demand for paper mail,
but there would still be package shipments.
>9 - How come Doctor S (never could figure out his name - Sahmbi?) needed the
>machine to go into the past, but Sepp the Nazi didn't? Sepp just licked the
>envelope, and he was gone.
Sepp needed Dr. S. to run the machine for him. Given that the Doctor
knew where Sepp was, he could project some sort of beam to the
appropriate coordinates. But the Doctor had to run the machine himself
for his own escape.
>
>11 - Why did they badmouth Aaron Burr? He wasn't a traitor!
I think there's some historical disput, but it's not my
area of study.
>
>14 - What was that about Sepp getting three doses of that drug? He had one
>when he popped into 1993, and one when he popped out. Where did the third
>one come from?
You don't have to travel when you take the drug. The machine has to be
powered up, also. There was probably some failed attempt before he
made it.
>15 - Why, if Damien was born in 2160, does the photo of his "mother" show her
>dressed in 19th century clothes? You can bet that this little time jaunt had
>something to do with Damien showing up as a foundling at the orphanage.
Either 1) Fashions come around again, 2) She was in costume, for some
reason, in the picture, or 3) It'll be related in a subsequent episode,
which would be fascinating.
>
>16 - I wonder, if there is a 200-year limit on the use of that drug, couldn't
>they just set up their operation in 1993 and send other people back to 1793?
Why? 200 years is enough to get them away from the law, and the
lifestyle is cushier.
Mathew Clayson
>>, mmca...@cs16.UVic.CA (Michael McAleese) writes:
>|> After viewing the two hour debut movie of Time Trax, I have to give
>|> it the old thumbs down. It wasn't exactly that it was bad... it just
>|> wasn't good.
>SPOILERS
>
>
>The Pentagon as a prison. I found this very believable.
>
>The modern version of peepholes for doors.
>
>Selma's disguise as a credit card
I hated the credit card disguise, it was even smaller then Selmas
first form, and he can't use it casualy in public, they should have
given him a cellular phone also.
Also if the female agent/squeze was suspicus(sp) of the car alarm, why let
him demonstrate it?
Mat
Brad Johnson
in series form can continue to expound on the ideas generated
in the premiere, then it's going to be a great show!
To each his own, but by way of comparison, I thought
the Space Rangers premiere was the worst piece of SF cliche
drivel I've ever seen. (Except for the pilot apparently
_choosing_ to lie on her stomach to fly her spaceship. That
was at least hilariously stupid. What happened to any concept
of sensible human engineering or ergonomics?)
I don't claim that Time Trax was startingly original or
anything, but the FX were pretty good and the future environment
postulation was very good. I thought the writing was only
so-so, and the plot was extremely MacGyver-ish, but you
can't win them all.
To compare with Quantum Leap, I thought Time Trax was
leaps (pun intended) ahead in the sense that the science fiction
and time travel concepts were INTEGRAL parts of the show.
I also really enjoy QL, but let's face it -- the time travel
thing is only a cheesy plot device to put the protagonist in
a wide variety of completely un-related situations week after week.
(Can anyone say Deus Ex Machina?) Sam Beckett could just as well
be an angel as a time traveller. (Now let's not start that again.)
Back to Time Trax -- My only fear is that they won't show
the world in 2193 much anymore, which would be a shame, since
that was by far the best part of the premiere.
And finally, trivia -- Where else have I seen the woman
who played Annie and Alyssa (you know, the female lead)? I
know I recognize her from somewhere, but I can't think where.
Please help!!!
Thanks for listening,
Brad Johnson (joh...@ebony.rtsg.mot.com)
Michael McAleese
>
>As for TT, well, I thought it was good. It portrayed a pretty good
>vision of the world 200 years from now as far as technology goes.
>It portrays a pretty dismal social picture, though. Kinda the
>looks like the writers do not share Roddenbury's optimism. Anyway,
>the show was good. The SELMA character was very good, and it
>appears that it will provide a number of plot possibilities.
A dismal social picture? The city was clean and beautiful, there were
no poor people, the typical person was a mental and physical giant compared
to our norms (as the intro kept pounding away at the "average" nature of
this superman have as the main character), and aside from some political
unrest hinted at in the opening sequence all seemed fine and dandy. Perhaps
their version of the future didn't have Mr. Roddenberry's rose-colored view
of a future without crime or want (or human beings, it would seem) but it
was anything but dismal.
I expect SELMA will be used for many of those oh-so-humorous incidents
of normal folk catching the hero shouting into his credit card because he's
moronic enough to forget this might seem a little odd in a public place,
despite his 204 IQ. (On a side note, I wish they wouldn't try the acronym
into a name thing. Why not just say it's a computer that we named Selma?)
Taed Nelson
> I thing that really impressed me about their vision of the future was the
> racial slur of "blanco". Apparently the writers do have a brain and realize
> that Hispanics will eventually become the ethnic majority in this country,
> as is evidenced by current population trends, and acted accordingly. I don't
> think we would have seen such realism in other sci-fi shows.
While this was good, why was it that 70% of the people we saw in the police
station, West Point, and just about everywhere, were white? It may have
been nice in the script, but the casting crew did not follow through.
bak...@hirama.hiram.edu
>>, mmca...@cs16.UVic.CA (Michael McAleese) writes:
> |> After viewing the two hour debut movie of Time Trax, I have to give
> |> it the old thumbs down. It wasn't exactly that it was bad... it just
> |> wasn't good.
>
>
> elements created a solid atmosphere and background for the story. I liked
> the acting and the actors. I thought it was very well done.
>
> SPOILERS
>
>
>
> The Pentagon as a prison. I found this very believable.
>
> The modern version of peepholes for doors.
>
> Selma's disguise as a credit card
>
>
>
>
>
to Space Rangers, which seems to have little in the way of plots, and
entirely too much in the way of machine guns with lights on them. :)
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In article <johnson.727724343@melon26> joh...@rtsg.mot.com (Brad Johnson) writes:
>
>And finally, trivia -- Where else have I seen the woman
>who played Annie and Alyssa (you know, the female lead)? I
>know I recognize her from somewhere, but I can't think where.
>Please help!!!
>
I'm not good at all with matching actors' faces with previous movies or TV
shows, but my roommate is a wiz at it (one of his few natural talents ;) ).
He said that she was the main actress in the movie _Legend_. He's probably
right, but I really have no idea, like Mr. Johnson, she looks familiar to
me, but I don't know from where.
Jeff Dickson
> After viewing the two hour debut movie of Time Trax, I have to give
>it the old thumbs down. It wasn't exactly that it was bad... it just
>wasn't good.
I have to agree. It struck me like a Knight Rider without wheels.
Phillip D. Russell
>who played Annie and Alyssa (you know, the female lead)? I
>know I recognize her from somewhere, but I can't think where.
>Please help!!!
>
FERRIS BEULLER'S DAY OFF
His girlfriend.
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>
> Time Trax, the dumest show on TV.
Amazing.
Truly, amazing.
Kurt Schumacher
>What this show needs from the viewers is for them to look at it like the
>Adams Family. Enjoy it for the laughs.
>
There's a quite important difference between Time Trax and The Addams Family.
The Addams Family was INTENDED to be funny. Time Trax attempts to take itself
seriously, but fails so badly (IMHO) that it isn't funny. There are shows that
are so bad they're good, and there are shows that are so bad they're bad. Time
Trax is one of the latter.
Kurt
Larry W. Virden
:Selma's disguise as a credit card
Actually, Selma's going to have quite some problem. Even if they duplicated
her as a 1993 credit card, come 1997 and she is not going to pass as a real
one - cause the date will be expired ;-)
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Kurt Schumacher
>>Selma's disguise as a credit card
>
>Just silly. I mean, within the context of the story, it was a good idea,
>but here in real life, it was a cheap joke.
>
I agree that the credit card bit was a bit silly. However, what I found funnier was
that when Our Hero was first given Selma, he just spoke normally while holding the
chip. Later, when he was at the girl's house, he held the card up to his mouth and
talked into it like a microphone!
Leslie Shkolnik
the past, then wouldn't the "present" have changed?
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Brian Abernathy
Maybe they will show it again???
Christopher Dean
>> 9 - How come Doctor S (never could figure out his name - Sahmbi?) needed the
>> machine to go into the past, but Sepp the Nazi didn't? Sepp just licked the
>> envelope, and he was gone.
>
>> 14 - What was that about Sepp getting three doses of that drug? He had one
>> when he popped into 1993, and one when he popped out. Where did the third
>> one come from?
>
My theory for the above questions. The drug was originally made for
teleportation. Sepp licked the envelope and teleported back to the doctor. The
doctor then gave him another dose and Sepp used the machine in combination
with the drug to go to 1993. They need the drug and machine to travel in time
and just the drug for teleportation. This also explains that Sepp had already
had two doses.
-Kevin
Rich Chong
>on it. I give it a C+. n
I think Annie and Darian are Alyssa's Great Grandparents. ;-)
>1 - Why did they insist on calling it the Smithsonian Institute? It's the
>Smithsonian *Institution*.
>
>2 - It's the Museum of American History, not the Museum of History. (or else
>the Museum of Natural History, but that's not really a history museum.)
>
>4 - That red brick building they kept showing as the "Museum of History" is
>an administrative building, not a place that has displays (well, I think
>there are some small displays, but the "History Museum" is on the other side
>of the Mall.)
>
>where somebody gets the Nobel prize in physics and the diploma reads
>"Awarded by the Norwegian Nobel committee." The Norwegian Nobel committee
>only awards the peace price, whereas the other prizes are awarded by the
>*Swedish* Nobel committee.
Hey, maybe in *your* universe! ;-)
Is someone gonna complain that the lady's john shown wasn't really the
one in the basement of that admin building? What's the dif?
>5 - If whites are a despised minority, why are all of the cops white? And
>they're all male, also. (Well, there was that one brief appearance of a
>black female cop showing Elissa (sp?) into Damien's office, but she seemed
>more like an usher than a cop.)
>
>6 - 200 years from now, they still use *paper* mail?!
>
>7 - They still have books? The dust jackets and everything else about them
>looked just like modern books do. Nothing will change in the publishing
>industry in 200 years?
Who are we to say what it will be like in 200 years? Norms and trends have
been known to reverse themselves. Look at Communism in the last 50.
Perhaps Blanco cops will be the norm then. Maybe the paper is synthetic.
>8 - Why didn't the National Archives have those old newspapers on microfiche,
>microdot, or some form of computer storage (CD-ROM)? Would they really allow
>just anybody to walk in off the street and ask to play around with the
>originals of 200-year-old newspapers? And what are newspapers doing in the
>National Archives anyway? They should have gone to the Library of Congress,
>or even to the Washington Post itself, if it still exists in 2193.
Again, maybe in 200 years, the function of the NA and LoC will change?
>10 - Has Michael Warren *really* gone bald since Hill Street Blues? And
>haven't they found a cure yet in 200 years? I always ask the same question
>about Jean-Luc Picard.
I guess Hair Club isn't gonna last for that long, eh? ;-)
>13 - The Secret Service guy just took a stranger's word for it that he was
>CIA, just because he flashed a badge? And then goes on into detail about the
>President's schedule? What's the CIA doing there, anyway? It is illegal for
>the CIA to be involved in domestic situations.
Perhaps he really did infiltrate the CIA. Since the prez was returning from
foriegn stuff, perhaps CIA involvement isn't as illegal (in that universe ;-)
>14 - What was that about Sepp getting three doses of that drug? He had one
>when he popped into 1993, and one when he popped out. Where did the third
>one come from?
I think Sepp really came from the 1990s. I swear I saw him on the bus the
other day. He got his first dose from the first scientist who went back. ;-)
>15 - Why, if Damien was born in 2160, does the photo of his "mother" show her
>dressed in 19th century clothes? You can bet that this little time jaunt had
Again, like Fat ties, styles come and go several times within a generation.
>> 3 - How did the door of the bathroom stall that Damien (sp?) materialized
>> into get locked from the inside?
Never seen a locked empty stall in a restroom? (I've never seen one of those
little garbage cans tho, wife explained it ;-)
>For that matter how did he transfer in that position? And what kept him from
>materializing *in* something solid?
He fell into that position. The whole transporting idea over time is itself
a little sketchy. Not only in a time frame reference, but in a spatial ref.
For instance, what exact coordinate in the universe do you think the Smith's
bathroom will be after 200 years? After 2 seconds?
>Could someone explain his "car alarm" gizmo to me? What do the three buttons
>do? I didn't catch that part.
Already explained. but what is the big deal about an out of town guy bringing
his keys w/car-alarm gizmo with him, and leaving his car back home at the
airport or something? Wouldn't ya think Annie or someone would try pushing a
button or two for kicks? Zap! oops!
>Another thing that bugged me. I understand the "signifigance" of using
>John Wilkes Booth's gun, but come on!!! Ever heard of misfires? You
>realize how old that gun was? It wasn't maintained, cleaned, anything...
>there's no way a proffesional would have used that gun over a baretta, or
>especially one of those nifty beam weapons they showed.
Perhaps Sepp cleaned and fixed it up to work better than one would expect.
Let's get picky and ask where he got the bullets (or powder&shot);-!
Everything is explainable Young Trooper!
rich chong
Jorge DeLaCruz
Maybe they were light skinned Hispanics, they do exist. I have a couple
of blonde haired, blue-eyed cousins.
About West Point, maybe more "Whites" are entering the Military for
Financial reasons as do many "Blacks" today.
Or maybe they casting director couldn't find any Hispanics in
California :)
.02 Cents
Jorge
Jorge DeLaCruz
>Hmmm... we seem to have The Six Million Dollar Man meets Quantum Leap (he
>even has a hologram companion, although Al from QL can stay in focus a lot
>better than Selma can.)
>
>
>
>Smithsonian *Institution*.
Future Slang?
>
>2 - It's the Museum of American History, not the Museum of History. (or else
>the Museum of Natural History, but that's not really a history museum.)
>
Who said the Country was still called America.
>
>9 - How come Doctor S (never could figure out his name - Sahmbi?) needed the
>machine to go into the past, but Sepp the Nazi didn't? Sepp just licked the
>envelope, and he was gone.
>
I believe that the Sepp used the First Dose to Teleport to the Basement in
"His" Current Time (a Fail Safe Device, or the Doctor Knew where he was?), and
then took a Second Dose to go back in Time.
>14 - What was that about Sepp getting three doses of that drug? He had one
>when he popped into 1993, and one when he popped out. Where did the third
>one come from?
>
Look above for possible answer.
>15 - Why, if Damien was born in 2160, does the photo of his "mother" show her
>dressed in 19th century clothes? You can bet that this little time jaunt had
>something to do with Damien showing up as a foundling at the orphanage.
>
Fashion Come and Go, maybe that look came back.
>16 - I wonder, if there is a 200-year limit on the use of that drug, couldn't
>they just set up their operation in 1993 and send other people back to 1793?
>
Out Technology isn't advanced enough and the Doctor didn't have time or
can't send his Machines Back, he would have to Duplicate everything and may
not have enough money.
bay...@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
>Deja vu: Wasn't there some short-lived TV series about a mercenary hunting
>pirates in the Caribbean that had an on-screen countdown at the end of each
>episode? I think it starred the actor from Family Affair and he had a very
>hi-tech black speedboat. Ring any bells?
"The Hundred Lives of Black Jack Savage" but I don't remember the
actor.
David Salley
bad guys back in time. (In the show, they said 'about a hundred'.) Damien
sent one back and one got killed. The count now stands at 98. What's your
best guess at how far the countdown gets before the show is cancelled.
I'm betting the count will just reach 85. ;-)
Deja vu: Wasn't there some short-lived TV series about a mercenary hunting
pirates in the Caribbean that had an on-screen countdown at the end of each
episode? I think it starred the actor from Family Affair and he had a very
hi-tech black speedboat. Ring any bells?
- David
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>Deja vu: Wasn't there some short-lived TV series about a mercenary hunting
>pirates in the Caribbean that had an on-screen countdown at the end of each
>episode? I think it starred the actor from Family Affair and he had a very
>hi-tech black speedboat. Ring any bells?
>
> - David
The series waslled Black Jack Savage and ran about 8 episodes. Th Ite
starred Daniel Hugh Kelly (from Hardcastle and McCormick) and Steven
Williams as the ghost (Black Jack Savage). The idea was that they had
to save a total of one hundred lives for Black Jack to move on and for
Barry Tarberry to not go to hell (because his business dealing shady).
I really hate to admit this but I have most of them on tape.
Leila
Sally Smith
It was (deep breath): "Disney Presents the 100 Lives of Black Jack
Savage", starring Daniel Hugh Kelly as Barry Tarberry and Steven
Williams as the ghost of Black Jack Savage.
For me it fell into the Dumb But Cute category (Mssrs. Kelly and
Williams just fall into the Cute category).
Sally
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mel rupinski
I've been wanting to follow-up on the racial minority issue since my last
post, but my system's been down since Friday, and is now just back online.
Anyway, it seems like alot of people didn't like the fact that while Whites
were supposed to be the minority, they still held most of the positions of
power. I really don't think this is much of a blunder or error or the result
of a lack of continuity, etc. IMHO, even though whites have become the
minority in terms of number doesn't necessarily mean that they would
relinquish all of their sources of social power. I mean, even in reality,
it will probably take quite some time after the whites become a numerical
minority before their positions of power are reduced. Perhaps this is
why blanco has become "the most hated racial slur". Perhaps Hispanics
are upset because the majority of power is still held by a white minority.
Further, this situation bears striking resemblance to South Africa, where
Whites are a significant minority, and not until very recently began to
accept their black brothers as political etc. leaders.
Basically, then, I see no problems with how the production crew has handled
the minority issue. Perhaps this tension will be dealt with in future
episodes. I think it would be interesting to see how Darien will handle
relationships with those of other ethnic background while in 1993. If I
remember correctly, I think someone told him before he left that he was
no longer a "blanco", but a "honky" (or some such). I just hope those in
charge do explore some of these issues in future eps.
Just my $.02,
mtr
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mel rupinski
>In article <1993Jan27.2...@afterlife.ncsc.mil> jde...@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Jorge DeLaCruz) writes:
>>In article <2B5E...@ssd0.laafb.af.mil> Kitc...@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL writes:
>>>Hmmm... we seem to have The Six Million Dollar Man meets Quantum Leap (he
>>>even has a hologram companion, although Al from QL can stay in focus a lot
>>>better than Selma can.)
>>>
>>>
>>>But, several questions came to mind as I watched this show:
>>>
>>>1 - Why did they insist on calling it the Smithsonian Institute? It's the
>>>Smithsonian *Institution*.
>>
>> Future Slang?
>
>
>
> Illiteracy? (i.e., unable to read the difference between
> the two words)
Actually, growing up in Baltimore, I took countless trips to the Smithsonian
as a kid (that's where every school field trip ended up), and as far as I
can remember, no one ever referred to it as an *Institution*, I seem to only
recall the Smithsonian *Institute* But then again, I haven't thought about
it in years. . .
Guillot, Burt J.
>Deja vu: Wasn't there some short-lived TV series about a mercenary hunting
>pirates in the Caribbean that had an on-screen countdown at the end of each
>episode? I think it starred the actor from Family Affair and he had a very
>hi-tech black speedboat. Ring any bells?
That was Disney's Black Jack Savage. The character had to do 100 good
deeds or something (he was a ghost).
Regards,
B.J. Guillot ... Houston, Texas USA
Yamanari
>>Hmmm... we seem to have The Six Million Dollar Man meets Quantum Leap (he
>>even has a hologram companion, although Al from QL can stay in focus a lot
>>better than Selma can.)
>>
>>
>>But, several questions came to mind as I watched this show:
>>
>>1 - Why did they insist on calling it the Smithsonian Institute? It's the
>>Smithsonian *Institution*.
>
> Future Slang?
Ignorance?
Illiteracy? (i.e., unable to read the difference between
the two words)
[..]
>>16 - I wonder, if there is a 200-year limit on the use of that drug, couldn't
>>they just set up their operation in 1993 and send other people back to 1793?
>>
> Out Technology isn't advanced enough and the Doctor didn't have time or
> can't send his Machines Back, he would have to Duplicate everything and may
> not have enough money.
But this _is_ an obvious hole.
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Glenn Host
>Assume for a minute that the "Mad Scientist"(tm) sent exactly one hundred
>bad guys back in time. (In the show, they said 'about a hundred'.) Damien
>sent one back and one got killed. The count now stands at 98. What's your
>best guess at how far the countdown gets before the show is cancelled.
>I'm betting the count will just reach 85. ;-)
Actually when I heard the number 100 my first thought was
"100 criminals from the future on the wall, 100 criminals to kill;
if one of the criminals should happen to fall,
99 criminals from the future on the wall, 99 criminals to kill;
...
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>>Could someone explain his "car alarm" gizmo to me? What do the three buttons
>>do? I didn't catch that part.
>Already explained. but what is the big deal about an out of town guy bringing
>his keys w/car-alarm gizmo with him, and leaving his car back home at the
>airport or something? Wouldn't ya think Annie or someone would try pushing a
>button or two for kicks? Zap! oops!
It is probably coded to his fingerprint - simplest solution
to nosy fingers.
Of course someone could put his hand on it if they though about it.
Jorge DeLaCruz
Acutally The Dead Pirate and the Live Business Man had to save 100 each,
the Traded, Gambled and Cheated each other of souls.
Jorge
Phil Mueller
In the prologue, they say the hero has an I.Q. of 207, "slightly above
average" ( yeah, right ). So how come these super-geniuses with IQ's
of 200+ let the Evil Bad Guy (Tm) have the cigarette?
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