"Revolution" to explain blackout before end of season

[David]

<spoiler for 10/8 episode, mild spoilers for upcoming episodes>

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/10/revolution-creator-eric-kripke-talks-revealing-secrets-and-bigger-mysteries-ahead.html

'Revolution' spoilers from creator Eric Kripke: Secrets revealed and
bigger mysteries ahead
By Geoff Berkshire

Since NBC's "Revolution" has emerged as one of the few true hits of
the new season, creator/showrunner Eric Kripke realizes the pressure
is on to keep his audience hooked.

During a conference call to discuss the season so far and what's ahead
in the remaining 18 episodes, Kripke revealed he has no intention of
frustrating viewers by making them wait for answers. He's got a plan.
Even when it comes to the show's central mystery: what caused the
worldwide blackout?

"You should look for clues everywhere," Kripke teases. "There was a
phenomenon that we have up our sleeves as to what caused the blackout.
What you see in that globe shot [of the blackout creeping across the
Earth] is an accurate representation of what we're working on.
Currently, in the writers room, we're talking dangerously about
revealing that secret before the end of the first season."

That decision wouldn't be made simply to satisfy viewer curiosity,
it's about what's best for the long term value of the show. "The
longer you drag out an answer the more pressure there is that it's the
greatest answer given in the history of man," Kripke explains.
"Frankly, I'm not that smart. I'd rather answer a question and open a
door to a bigger room. Even if we do answer the question of what
caused the blackout it leads directly to a bigger and scarier
mystery."

And there will be plenty of little payoffs on the way to discovering
what happened with the blackout. For example, the search for Danny
won't last all season. "We can keep that quest going until episode
10," Kripke reveals. "And then we shake things up! This is absolutely
my M.O. of showrunning. We never had any intention of keeping the
search for Danny going forever, it was only a way to bring the
audience into the world and introduce them to the characters. It's
time for the audience to find out why the show is called
'Revolution.'"

The full truth about Rachel's past will also be revealed at some point
this season ("I think it will be pretty explosive for Charlie to
hear," Kripke says) and Miles' relationship with Monroe will be
fleshed out in a "tragic, emotional, Cain and Abel kind of way." Plus,
Miles and Monroe will inevitably meet again: "When they see each other
they're not sure if they're gonna hug each other or kill each other.
We think it's interesting that the hero of the show and the Big Bad
have such a close relationship."

We also haven't seen the last of Grace (Maria Howell), the mysterious
woman who still has access to some form of electricity. "She's right
in the dead center of where the mythology is," Kripke says. "I think
the next time we see her is episode 7. We see who Randall is, this
person who kidnapped her in episode 2. We start to expand it because
she is under duress with Randall. She's in a dangerous position right
now and we start to tease that out. What's happening with their
storyline begins to play a huge, huge part in the main storyline of
the show."

But we have said goodbye to Maggie (Anna Lise Phillips). Kripke said
her shocking death in Monday's episode was a tough but important
choice to make in these early episodes. "Anna Lise is a wonderful
actress and I love that character. I sort of have a bad habit in the
shows that I run of killing off the people that I love," Kripke jokes
(though anyone familiar with his work on "Supernatural" may not be
laughing). "We decided internally very early on that it was important
to show that this world had real stakes and was truly dangerous --
you're not close to hospitals, paramedics, help. We realized the
scariest thing we could do was to kill the doctor among them. It was
purely a creative decision about giving the world a real charge of
danger. As we move forward in the series we want the audience to
understand no one is safe, including the main characters."

Monday's episode, "Soul Train," will introduce a new character played
by "Grey's Anatomy" and "24" veteran Kim Raver. She's the wife of
villainous Captain Tom Neville (Giancarlo Esposito) and will be key to
revealing more about the dastardly commander in the Monroe Militia.
"We're planting Kim [in the flashbacks during episode 5]," Kripke
says. "We'll meet her in the present day a couple episodes down the
line, and we'll see how a normal suburban housewife transformed into
basically Lady Macbeth."

"What's interesting about the blackout in the show is what a
transformative experience it was for so many people," Kripke
continues. "Who they were in the old world had nothing to do with who
they are now. There's a bit of that in the pilot, we were always
amused by the idea that [Neville] is this violent strongman
post-blackout but pre-blackout he was an insurance adjuster. We're
interested in exploring more how his character before the blackout was
mild-mannered and maybe a little submissive. How did he transform into
the violent psychopath he is today?"

That's one more question "Revolution" fans should expect an answer for
soon.

[cloud dreamer]

On 11/10/2012 3:29 PM, David wrote:
> <spoiler for 10/8 episode, mild spoilers for upcoming episodes>
>
> http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/10/revolution-creator-eric-kripke-talks-revealing-secrets-and-bigger-mysteries-ahead.html
>
> 'Revolution' spoilers from creator Eric Kripke: Secrets revealed and
> bigger mysteries ahead
> By Geoff Berkshire
>
> Since NBC's "Revolution" has emerged as one of the few true hits of
> the new season,

I think I just heard some head's explode. LOL

..

[Obveeus]

"David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/10/revolution-creator-eric-kripke-talks-revealing-secrets-and-bigger-mysteries-ahead.html
>
> 'Revolution' spoilers from creator Eric Kripke: Secrets revealed and
> bigger mysteries ahead

> During a conference call to discuss the season so far and what's ahead
> in the remaining 18 episodes, Kripke revealed he has no intention of
> frustrating viewers by making them wait for answers.

So we won't have to wait for answers...

> What you see in that globe shot [of the blackout creeping across the
> Earth] is an accurate representation of what we're working on.

The field effect is being broadcast from the moon?

> Currently, in the writers room, we're talking dangerously about
> revealing that secret before the end of the first season."

...not having to wait because we *might* get an answer this season?

> It's
> time for the audience to find out why the show is called
> 'Revolution.'"

Didn't they already reveal that with the shoulder tattoo in all its old
glory?

> How did he transform into
> the violent psychopath he is today?"
>
> That's one more question "Revolution" fans should expect an answer for
> soon.

Well, duh, this is what happens to people when you take away their TV.

[Ed Stasiak]

> cloud dreamer
> > David

> >
> > Since NBC's "Revolution" has emerged as one of the
> > few true hits of the new season,
>
> I think I just heard some head's explode. LOL

I think it shows that people generally like sci-fi and will
watch it, even if it's as badly done as "Revolution".

> > "You should look for clues everywhere," Kripke teases.

I'm calling bullshit on this.

> > "There was a phenomenon that we have up our sleeves
> > as to what caused the blackout. What you see in that globe
> > shot [of the blackout creeping across the Earth] is an accurate
> > representation of what we're working on.

Bullshit on this also, unless he means "accurate to whatever
sci-fi treknobabble we cook up to explain it".

> > That decision wouldn't be made simply to satisfy viewer
> > curiosity, it's about what's best for the long term value of
> > the show.

I think more about providing an ending in case it doesn't
get renewed for a second season.

> > Kripke explains. "Frankly, I'm not that smart."

You don't say?…

> "We'll meet her in the present day a couple episodes down
> the line, and we'll see how a normal suburban housewife
> transformed into basically Lady Macbeth."

This could be cool, thou it sounds like they're ripping off the
Sandra Arminger character from the "Emberverse" series.

> > That's one more question "Revolution" fans should expect
> > an answer for soon.

But still nothing about bicycles.

[cloud dreamer]

On 11/10/2012 4:05 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>
>>> David

>>> That's one more question "Revolution" fans should expect
>>> an answer for soon.
>
> But still nothing about bicycles.
>

Well, so few Americans use bicycles today, I imagine there was a limited
supply to start with. I imagine there was a time when you could go into
any backyard and find a bike. Now, I'd say you'd be lucky to find one
adult sized bike in good repair on every block.

Now, if the series was in Germany or Denmark, then yes, bikes everywhere!

At least in the flashbacks. I know from years of riding that tires break
down very quickly. Without an industry that continues to produce them,
bicycles would soon become more trouble than they're worth.

If someone is riding a bike in 2027, I want to see it with some
makeshift rubber tires.

..

[cloud dreamer]

On 11/10/2012 4:26 PM, anonymous wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:59:58 -0400, David wrote:
>>
>> Since NBC's "Revolution" has emerged as one of the few true hits of the
>

> Ummm. I'll have what ever they are drinking..... hit my ass.

>
>> new season, creator/showrunner Eric Kripke realizes the pressure is on
>> to keep his audience hooked.
>

> Left..... and not even Raver will bring back unless your scheduling the
> first nude scene on network TV with Raver and Mitchell, and sporidakos
> getting shot in the face

>
>
>> "You should look for clues everywhere," Kripke teases. "There was a
>> phenomenon that we have up our sleeves as to what caused the blackout.
>> What you see in that globe shot [of the blackout creeping across the
>> Earth] is an accurate representation of what we're working on.
>

> And the physics groups ripped them and their physicist to shreds.
>


fic·tion/ˈfikSHən/
Noun:

1. Prose literature, esp. short stories and novels, about imaginary
events and people.
2. Invention or fabrication as opposed to fact.

..

[Ed Stasiak]

> cloud dreamer
> > Ed Stasiak

> >
> > But still nothing about bicycles.
>
> Well, so few Americans use bicycles today, I imagine there was
> a limited supply to start with.

11 million new bicycles (20" wheels or larger, 15.7 million total)
were sold last year, 13.5 million the year before, 10.2 million the
year before that;

http://nbda.com/articles/industry-overview-2011-pg34.htm

There is no shortage of bicycles in the U.S., especially considering
that at least 1/2 of the population (probably more like 90%) died off
in the first few months of the electropocalypse.

> Without an industry that continues to produce them, bicycles would
> soon become more trouble than they're worth.

There would be plenty of spare parts laying around and as bikes
would be worth their weight in gold, after 15 years, new bikes and
spare parts would be in production.

> If someone is riding a bike in 2027, I want to see it with some
> makeshift rubber tires.

Cut strips off the bazillions of car tires and screw them to the
bike wheels.

[Obveeus]

"Ed Stasiak" <esta...@att.net> wrote:

>> cloud dreamer
>> > Ed Stasiak
>> >
>> > But still nothing about bicycles.
>>
>> Well, so few Americans use bicycles today, I imagine there was
>> a limited supply to start with.
>
> 11 million new bicycles (20" wheels or larger, 15.7 million total)
> were sold last year, 13.5 million the year before, 10.2 million the
> year before that;

Yep. Nearly every garage in American has a bike (or many) and most of them
are in really good shape because people don't use them much at all.
Additionally, the trend over the last 15 years has been towards 'off
roading' style bikes/tires (as opposed to those super skinny racing tires),
so most of those near brand new bikes will have decent tires for riding
around on post apocalypse roads.

[anim8rFSK]

In article
<6339e387-9796-4e2a...@y8g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,

Ed Stasiak <esta...@att.net> wrote:

> > cloud dreamer
> > > David
> > >
> > > Since NBC's "Revolution" has emerged as one of the
> > > few true hits of the new season,
> >
> > I think I just heard some head's explode. LOL

Only from laughing at you being unable to even spell the plural of 'head'

>
> I think it shows that people generally like sci-fi and will
> watch it, even if it's as badly done as "Revolution".
>
> > > "You should look for clues everywhere," Kripke teases.
>
> I'm calling bullshit on this.
>
> > > "There was a phenomenon that we have up our sleeves
> > > as to what caused the blackout. What you see in that globe
> > > shot [of the blackout creeping across the Earth] is an accurate
> > > representation of what we're working on.
>
> Bullshit on this also, unless he means "accurate to whatever
> sci-fi treknobabble we cook up to explain it".

Black smoke from LOST

>
> > > That decision wouldn't be made simply to satisfy viewer
> > > curiosity, it's about what's best for the long term value of
> > > the show.
>
> I think more about providing an ending in case it doesn't
> get renewed for a second season.
>
> > > Kripke explains. "Frankly, I'm not that smart."
>

> You don't say?Š

Which is why he hires writers even stupider than he is - I'm looking at
you, Anne Coffel Saunders.

>
> > "We'll meet her in the present day a couple episodes down
> > the line, and we'll see how a normal suburban housewife
> > transformed into basically Lady Macbeth."
>
> This could be cool, thou it sounds like they're ripping off the
> Sandra Arminger character from the "Emberverse" series.
>
> > > That's one more question "Revolution" fans should expect
> > > an answer for soon.
>
> But still nothing about bicycles.

--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."

[anim8rFSK]

In article
<34dda8eb-0f55-4588...@y1g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,

Ed Stasiak <esta...@att.net> wrote:

> > cloud dreamer
> > > Ed Stasiak
> > >
> > > But still nothing about bicycles.
> >
> > Well, so few Americans use bicycles today, I imagine there was
> > a limited supply to start with.

You image a lot of things; most of them you've convinced yourself are
reality. Oh, look, you've done it again!

>
> 11 million new bicycles (20" wheels or larger, 15.7 million total)
> were sold last year, 13.5 million the year before, 10.2 million the
> year before that;
>
> http://nbda.com/articles/industry-overview-2011-pg34.htm
>
> There is no shortage of bicycles in the U.S., especially considering
> that at least 1/2 of the population (probably more like 90%) died off
> in the first few months of the electropocalypse.
>
> > Without an industry that continues to produce them, bicycles would
> > soon become more trouble than they're worth.
>
> There would be plenty of spare parts laying around and as bikes
> would be worth their weight in gold, after 15 years, new bikes and
> spare parts would be in production.
>
> > If someone is riding a bike in 2027, I want to see it with some
> > makeshift rubber tires.
>
> Cut strips off the bazillions of car tires and screw them to the
> bike wheels.

So what you're saying here is that Clodreamer was wrong, about questions
that have already been asked and answered here in the first place?

[RichA]

Avoidance of real science = laziness and contempt for the audience.

[Tony Calguire]

David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:i52e789ka6617cv05...@4ax.com:

> (...) Kripke explains.

> "Frankly, I'm not that smart.
>

You got that right, buddy.

>
> hear," Kripke says) and Miles' relationship with Monroe will be
> fleshed out in a "tragic, emotional, Cain and Abel kind of way." Plus,
> Miles and Monroe will inevitably meet again: "When they see each other
> they're not sure if they're gonna hug each other or kill each other.
> We think it's interesting that the hero of the show and the Big Bad
> have such a close relationship."
>

No, it's not interesting, it's a tired old trope. And how do we know
it's trope? Because you compared it to Cain and Able, which some would
argue is the second-oldest interpersonal relationship in human history.

>
> But we have said goodbye to Maggie (Anna Lise Phillips). Kripke said
> her shocking death in Monday's episode was a tough but important
> choice to make in these early episodes.

I'll give him that. Falling Skies did the same thing with Jimmy Boland,
and I was pissed. I found Maggie's quest to be really interesting, and a
transatlantic expedition would have been cool to see. I agree that it
shouldn't be that hard; if the Vikings and Thor Heyerdahl could do it,
there's really no reason why somebody couldn't.

>
> "What's interesting about the blackout in the show is what a
> transformative experience it was for so many people," Kripke
> continues. "Who they were in the old world had nothing to do with who
> they are now. There's a bit of that in the pilot, we were always
> amused by the idea that [Neville] is this violent strongman
> post-blackout but pre-blackout he was an insurance adjuster. We're
> interested in exploring more how his character before the blackout was
> mild-mannered and maybe a little submissive. How did he transform into
> the violent psychopath he is today?"
>

Yeah yeah, and Will Patton was a photocopier salesman in "The Postman".
Seen it already.

> That's one more question "Revolution" fans should expect an answer for
> soon.

One down, 22,000 to go.

[AC]

anonymous wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:29:24 -0230, cloud dreamer wrote:
>
>>
>> fic·tion/ˈfikSHən/
>> Noun:
>>
>> 1. Prose literature, esp. short stories and novels, about imaginary
>> events and people.
>> 2. Invention or fabrication as opposed to fact.
>

> Except they touted their "Physicist approved science."
>
> This no longer fiction, thus reality and rules set in, thus fail.
>
>

My guess is that it will be based on an impossible "if". Like time
travel being possible *if* you had a power source 1000 times as powerful
as the sun. So theoretical possible, but completely impossible to
engineer any time soon.

--
AC

[icebreaker]

"AC" <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote in message news:QOSds.247544$F52....@fx22.am4...

Any bets whether they follow through? We have a recent example where a show
was going to reveal the murderer and didn't. That didn't end well for the
show. Wonder if these people learned anything from that?

[cloud dreamer]

Hey, just stop watching TV. There you go. Problem solved.

No physicists necessary.

..

[number6]

On Oct 11, 2:00 pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <spoiler for 10/8 episode, mild spoilers for upcoming episodes>
>

> http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/10/revolution-creator-er...

>
> 'Revolution' spoilers from creator Eric Kripke: Secrets revealed and
> bigger mysteries ahead
> By Geoff Berkshire
>
> Since NBC's "Revolution" has emerged as one of the few true hits of
> the new season, creator/showrunner Eric Kripke realizes the pressure
> is on to keep his audience hooked.
>
> During a conference call to discuss the season so far and what's ahead
> in the remaining 18 episodes, Kripke revealed he has no intention of
> frustrating viewers by making them wait for answers. He's got a plan.
> Even when it comes to the show's central mystery: what caused the
> worldwide blackout?

I'm surprised that it didn't leak out already ...
I've read that they showed their premise as to why the blackout
occurred to a number of scientists ...
and according to them a number of them gave some plausibility of the
order of ...
Well, you can't disprove that ...

[Obveeus]

"number6" <snum...@aol.com> wrote:

>On Oct 11, 2:00 pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>

>> http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/10/revolution-creator-er...

>> During a conference call to discuss the season so far and what's ahead
>> in the remaining 18 episodes, Kripke revealed he has no intention of
>> frustrating viewers by making them wait for answers. He's got a plan.
>> Even when it comes to the show's central mystery: what caused the
>> worldwide blackout?
>
>I'm surprised that it didn't leak out already ...
>I've read that they showed their premise as to why the blackout
>occurred to a number of scientists ...
>and according to them a number of them gave some plausibility of the
>order of ...
>Well, you can't disprove that ...

Wouldn't it be great if the show revealed that the 'scientists' behind this
are actually a religious cult that had prayed to God to restore Earth to its
former glory and the blackout was actually an act of God? Bonus points of
the amulets are played up as crosses with 2-way communication to/through God
ability given to the cult members by God.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k594p3$f7h$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

Wouldn't work. Scientists think the natural God is dead, so they'd be
praying to an artificial God.

[Jim G.]

David sent the following on Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:59:58 -0400:

> <spoiler for 10/8 episode, mild spoilers for upcoming episodes>
>
> http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/10/revolution-creator-eric-kripke-talks-revealing-secrets-and-bigger-mysteries-ahead.html
>
> 'Revolution' spoilers from creator Eric Kripke: Secrets revealed and
> bigger mysteries ahead
> By Geoff Berkshire

[snip]

> "You should look for clues everywhere," Kripke teases. "There was a
> phenomenon that we have up our sleeves as to what caused the blackout.
> What you see in that globe shot [of the blackout creeping across the
> Earth] is an accurate representation of what we're working on.
> Currently, in the writers room, we're talking dangerously about
> revealing that secret before the end of the first season."

Someone needs to read that last sentence again, because it sure as heck
doesn't look like any guarantee to me.

--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"Get down off the cross. We need the wood." -- Pete Lattimer, WAREHOUSE 13

[Ed Stasiak]

> icebreaker

>
> We have a recent example where a show was going to reveal
> the murderer and didn't. That didn't end well for the show.

And then there was "Lost", (another J.J.Abrams production)
where they insisted throughout the 1st season that everything
we were seeing had a logical, scientific explanation to it and
that it wasn't sci-fi in any way.

Only to eventually admit that yes, it was sci-fi / fantasy and
in fact that they had been making it up as they went along.

Didn't hurt the show (at least for me) but one would be a fool
to believe Hollywood types when they make the same claim
again with "Revolution".

[Ed Stasiak]

> icebreaker

>
> We have a recent example where a show was going to reveal
> the murderer and didn't. That didn't end well for the show.

[Dimensional Traveler]

Oh goodie! You brought up 'Lost' so I have an excuse to post something
I thought of at work today. :)

Lost was a murder mystery where the audience not only didn't find out
who the killer was, the writers forgot there was even a murder and tried
to claim the story was always about the family dynamics of a family they
never introduced.


--
The 'Enterprise' crew in the 2009 Star Trek are adrenaline addicted,
hyper-active teenagers with ADD whose Ritalin got replaced with
methamphetamine, displaying a level of discipline that a Somali pirate
wouldn't tolerate.

[Dano]

"Dimensional Traveler" wrote in message
news:5078c99b$0$71152$742e...@news.sonic.net...

Lost was a murder mystery where the audience not only didn't find out

who the killer was...

==============================================

Anyone who describes Lost as a "murder mystery" is severely hampered by ADD
or some such mental disorder.

I suppose Hamlet is simply a soap opera too.

And Kafka's The Trial is a police procedural.

[Stan Brown]

On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:59:58 -0400, David wrote:
>
> <spoiler for 10/8 episode, mild spoilers for upcoming episodes>
>
> http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/10/revolution-creator-eric-kripke-talks-revealing-secrets-and-bigger-mysteries-ahead.html
>
> 'Revolution' spoilers from creator Eric Kripke: Secrets revealed and

Somehow I missed the fact that Eric Kripke is the showrunner. Simply
from reading the premise, I decided not even to sample this show.
Now I think I have to change my mind and give it a try.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

[shawn]

On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:21:49 -0500, Jim G.
<jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

>David sent the following on Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:59:58 -0400:
>> <spoiler for 10/8 episode, mild spoilers for upcoming episodes>
>>
>> http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/10/revolution-creator-eric-kripke-talks-revealing-secrets-and-bigger-mysteries-ahead.html
>>
>> 'Revolution' spoilers from creator Eric Kripke: Secrets revealed and
>> bigger mysteries ahead
>> By Geoff Berkshire
>
>[snip]
>
>> "You should look for clues everywhere," Kripke teases. "There was a
>> phenomenon that we have up our sleeves as to what caused the blackout.
>> What you see in that globe shot [of the blackout creeping across the
>> Earth] is an accurate representation of what we're working on.
>> Currently, in the writers room, we're talking dangerously about
>> revealing that secret before the end of the first season."
>
>Someone needs to read that last sentence again, because it sure as heck
>doesn't look like any guarantee to me.

Sounds more like he's afraid of revealing the secret before the end of
the first season. Also if you look at his words the choice of "what
we're working on" doesn't sound like the idea is fleshed out at this
point. Certainly doesn't bode well for actually having had a physicist
say that their idea could work unless he said it could work in a
universe that allows for magic.

[Obveeus]

"Stan Brown" <the_sta...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:59:58 -0400, David wrote:
>>
>> <spoiler for 10/8 episode, mild spoilers for upcoming episodes>
>>
>> http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/10/revolution-creator-eric-kripke-talks-revealing-secrets-and-bigger-mysteries-ahead.html
>>
>> 'Revolution' spoilers from creator Eric Kripke: Secrets revealed and
>
> Somehow I missed the fact that Eric Kripke is the showrunner. Simply
> from reading the premise, I decided not even to sample this show.
> Now I think I have to change my mind and give it a try.

There is a lot of stupid stuff, but REVOLUTION is still one of the better
new TV shows on this Fall and its ratings all but guarantee that it will be
back for at least a second season as well.

[emulsion]

the horror ... the horror

[Dimensional Traveler]

On 10/13/2012 10:28 AM, Obveeus wrote:
> "Stan Brown" <the_sta...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:59:58 -0400, David wrote:
>>>
>>> <spoiler for 10/8 episode, mild spoilers for upcoming episodes>
>>>
>>> http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/10/revolution-creator-eric-kripke-talks-revealing-secrets-and-bigger-mysteries-ahead.html
>>>
>>> 'Revolution' spoilers from creator Eric Kripke: Secrets revealed and
>>
>> Somehow I missed the fact that Eric Kripke is the showrunner. Simply
>> from reading the premise, I decided not even to sample this show.
>> Now I think I have to change my mind and give it a try.
>
> There is a lot of stupid stuff, but REVOLUTION is still one of the better
> new TV shows on this Fall

Talk about damning with faint praise.

>and its ratings all but guarantee that it will be
> back for at least a second season as well.
>

You're just full of bad news today, aren't you.

[marcus]

On Oct 12, 6:22 pm, Jim G. <jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> David sent the following on Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:59:58 -0400:
>
> > <spoiler for 10/8 episode, mild spoilers for upcoming episodes>
>

> >http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/10/revolution-creator-er...

>
> > 'Revolution' spoilers from creator Eric Kripke: Secrets revealed and
> > bigger mysteries ahead
> > By Geoff Berkshire
>
> [snip]
>
> > "You should look for clues everywhere," Kripke teases. "There was a
> > phenomenon that we have up our sleeves as to what caused the blackout.
> > What you see in that globe shot [of the blackout creeping across the
> > Earth] is an accurate representation of what we're working on.
> > Currently, in the writers room, we're talking dangerously about
> > revealing that secret before the end of the first season."
>
> Someone needs to read that last sentence again, because it sure as heck
> doesn't look like any guarantee to me.
>
> --
> Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
> "Get down off the cross. We need the wood." -- Pete Lattimer, WAREHOUSE 13

I thought it was due to a squirrel in a sub-station near Buffalo.

[Your Name]

In article
<3df21a2c-6a99-40d5...@y8g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>, marcus
<marc...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Oct 12, 6:22=A0pm, Jim G. <jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > David sent the following on Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:59:58 -0400:
> >
> > > <spoiler for 10/8 episode, mild spoilers for upcoming episodes>
> >
> > >http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/10/revolution-creator-er...
> >
> > > 'Revolution' spoilers from creator Eric Kripke: Secrets revealed and
> > > bigger mysteries ahead
> > > By Geoff Berkshire
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > "You should look for clues everywhere," Kripke teases. "There was a
> > > phenomenon that we have up our sleeves as to what caused the blackout.
> > > What you see in that globe shot [of the blackout creeping across the
> > > Earth] is an accurate representation of what we're working on.
> > > Currently, in the writers room, we're talking dangerously about
> > > revealing that secret before the end of the first season."
> >
> > Someone needs to read that last sentence again, because it sure as heck
> > doesn't look like any guarantee to me.
>

> I thought it was due to a squirrel in a sub-station near Buffalo.

It's from the makers of "Lost" ... they'll drag it out as long as they
can, then finish without bothering to answer half the questions and give
meaningless / senseless answers to the other half.

[Jim G.]

shawn sent the following on Sat, 13 Oct 2012 10:46:41 -0400:

> On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:21:49 -0500, Jim G.
> <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >David sent the following on Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:59:58 -0400:
> >> <spoiler for 10/8 episode, mild spoilers for upcoming episodes>
> >>
> >> http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/10/revolution-creator-eric-kripke-talks-revealing-secrets-and-bigger-mysteries-ahead.html
> >>
> >> 'Revolution' spoilers from creator Eric Kripke: Secrets revealed and
> >> bigger mysteries ahead
> >> By Geoff Berkshire
> >
> >[snip]
> >
> >> "You should look for clues everywhere," Kripke teases. "There was a
> >> phenomenon that we have up our sleeves as to what caused the blackout.
> >> What you see in that globe shot [of the blackout creeping across the
> >> Earth] is an accurate representation of what we're working on.
> >> Currently, in the writers room, we're talking dangerously about
> >> revealing that secret before the end of the first season."
> >
> >Someone needs to read that last sentence again, because it sure as heck
> >doesn't look like any guarantee to me.
>
> Sounds more like he's afraid of revealing the secret before the end of
> the first season.

Maybe, but just the "we're talking about" alone is enough to convince me
that it's not a done deal. Yet.

> Also if you look at his words the choice of "what
> we're working on" doesn't sound like the idea is fleshed out at this
> point. Certainly doesn't bode well for actually having had a physicist
> say that their idea could work unless he said it could work in a
> universe that allows for magic.

Yeah, that "physicist" talk was mostly a load of bull, I suspect. Even
at the time, it set of all sorts of alarms for me when they didn't
identify the supposed "physicist" by name.

[Jim G.]

Stan Brown sent the following on Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:23:12 -0400:

> On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:59:58 -0400, David wrote:
> >
> > <spoiler for 10/8 episode, mild spoilers for upcoming episodes>
> >
> > http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/10/revolution-creator-eric-kripke-talks-revealing-secrets-and-bigger-mysteries-ahead.html
> >
> > 'Revolution' spoilers from creator Eric Kripke: Secrets revealed and
>
> Somehow I missed the fact that Eric Kripke is the showrunner. Simply
> from reading the premise, I decided not even to sample this show.
> Now I think I have to change my mind and give it a try.

Kripke was the only reason I sampled it in the first place after hearing
the utterly stupid premise. Sadly, he disappointed me right out of the
gate, and things never got better. In fact, it's arguable that they got
even *more* stupid *after* the pilot episode.

[cloud dreamer]

On 15/10/2012 4:43 PM, Jim G. wrote:
> Stan Brown sent the following on Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:23:12 -0400:
>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:59:58 -0400, David wrote:
>>>
>>> <spoiler for 10/8 episode, mild spoilers for upcoming episodes>
>>>
>>> http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/10/revolution-creator-eric-kripke-talks-revealing-secrets-and-bigger-mysteries-ahead.html
>>>
>>> 'Revolution' spoilers from creator Eric Kripke: Secrets revealed and
>>
>> Somehow I missed the fact that Eric Kripke is the showrunner. Simply
>> from reading the premise, I decided not even to sample this show.
>> Now I think I have to change my mind and give it a try.
>
> Kripke was the only reason I sampled it in the first place after hearing
> the utterly stupid premise. Sadly, he disappointed me right out of the
> gate, and things never got better. In fact, it's arguable that they got
> even *more* stupid *after* the pilot episode.
>

And yet you still watched. Says a lot about you.

<plonk back in the killfile...how'd you get out?>

..

[anim8rFSK]

In article <e4jo78909iaoi21pk...@4ax.com>,

Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> shawn sent the following on Sat, 13 Oct 2012 10:46:41 -0400:
> > On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:21:49 -0500, Jim G.
> > <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > >David sent the following on Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:59:58 -0400:
> > >> <spoiler for 10/8 episode, mild spoilers for upcoming episodes>
> > >>
> > >> http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/10/revolution-creator-eric-k
> > >> ripke-talks-revealing-secrets-and-bigger-mysteries-ahead.html
> > >>
> > >> 'Revolution' spoilers from creator Eric Kripke: Secrets revealed and
> > >> bigger mysteries ahead
> > >> By Geoff Berkshire
> > >
> > >[snip]
> > >
> > >> "You should look for clues everywhere," Kripke teases. "There was a
> > >> phenomenon that we have up our sleeves as to what caused the blackout.
> > >> What you see in that globe shot [of the blackout creeping across the
> > >> Earth] is an accurate representation of what we're working on.
> > >> Currently, in the writers room, we're talking dangerously about
> > >> revealing that secret before the end of the first season."
> > >
> > >Someone needs to read that last sentence again, because it sure as heck
> > >doesn't look like any guarantee to me.
> >
> > Sounds more like he's afraid of revealing the secret before the end of
> > the first season.
>
> Maybe, but just the "we're talking about" alone is enough to convince me
> that it's not a done deal. Yet.

I don't understand why it would possibly matter. The show is just about
a magical world, and if they'll be able to turn reality back on. The
audience knowing the nature of the preposterous impossible reality
shifting mechanism doesn't affect the characters at all.

>
> > Also if you look at his words the choice of "what
> > we're working on" doesn't sound like the idea is fleshed out at this
> > point. Certainly doesn't bode well for actually having had a physicist
> > say that their idea could work unless he said it could work in a
> > universe that allows for magic.
>
> Yeah, that "physicist" talk was mostly a load of bull, I suspect. Even
> at the time, it set of all sorts of alarms for me when they didn't
> identify the supposed "physicist" by name.

--

[Jim G.]

cloud dreamer sent the following on Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:47:48 -0230:

sample
sam·ple [sámp'l]

transitive and intransitive verb (past and past participle sam·pled,
present participle sam·pling, 3rd person present singular sam·ples)
1. get sample of something: to take a sample of something, especially
in order to determine its character, features, or quality
sample the river water

[13th century. Shortening of Anglo-Norman assample "example" < Latin
exemplum (see example)]

Microsoft® Encarta® 2009. © 1993-2008 Microsoft Corporation. All rights
reserved.

Hope this helps.

> <plonk back in the killfile...how'd you get out?>

It must be the sneaky way that I've been using the exact same email
address for countless years, Einstein.

And for the record, I *have* quit the show, but don't let facts get in
the way of your latest ignorant comments, or anything.

[Jim G.]

anim8rFSK sent the following on Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:35:43 -0700:

It would instantly affect our characters' future actions, though. Once
they (and we) know what made the lights go out, then they'll be able to
begin to focus on what must be done to turn them back *on*. At that
point, they won't be wandering aimlessly anymore, and it will be a lot
harder for the writers to justify any filler crap.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <h6nt781bp86233jvg...@4ax.com>,

Well, first, telling the audience what their pretend physicist says
happened doesn't mean the characters know it. And it's just turning
into a quest for the 12 amulets anyway, so who cares whether they know
what they do or not?

[Jim G.]

anim8rFSK sent the following on Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:23:40 -0700:

But why would they tell us and not the characters? Since the people who
turned out the lights already know how it was done, the only reason to
tell us would be to also tell at least *some* of the people who are
going up *against* those who already know. And at *that* point, they
won't be wandering quite so aimlessly anymore.

> And it's just turning
> into a quest for the 12 amulets anyway, so who cares whether they know
> what they do or not?

So we've got The Search for Amulets on one J.J. show and The Search for
Walter's VCR Tapes on another J.J. show. Someone must have been reading
about scavenger hunts at some point in the recent past.

[David Barnett]

In article <anim8rfsk-2CD4C8.15233917102012
@news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...

I like quests!
Especially the one in Doctor Who, re the keys of time.

--
David Barnett

[David Barnett]

In article <bqa08858rtcdbuev7...@4ax.com>,
jimg...@geemail.com.invalid says...

Or the keys of time of Doctor Who, mentioned in my
previous post.

--
David Barnett

[anim8rFSK]

In article <bqa08858rtcdbuev7...@4ax.com>,

Mama can tell Monroe without any of the 'good' guys knowing.

>
> > And it's just turning
> > into a quest for the 12 amulets anyway, so who cares whether they know
> > what they do or not?
>
> So we've got The Search for Amulets on one J.J. show and The Search for
> Walter's VCR Tapes on another J.J. show. Someone must have been reading
> about scavenger hunts at some point in the recent past.

--

[anim8rFSK]

In article <MPG.2aeb0502...@news.bigpond.com>,

That had the good Romana in it, right?

[Jerry Brown]

On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:08:05 -0500, Jim G.

<http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlotCoupon>

--
Jerry Brown

A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)

[Arthur Lipscomb]

The first Romana, I guess that's the good one.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k5qqb8$9c5$1...@dont-email.me>,

Yay!

[David Barnett]

In article <anim8rfsk-C79B48.14175118102012
@news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...

Correct!

--
David Barnett

[David Barnett]

In article <anim8rfsk-532EFD.04584719102012
@news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...

And the next Romana the not so good one.

--
David Barnett

[Jim G.]

David Barnett sent the following on Fri, 19 Oct 2012 06:35:24 +1100:

It's a popular theme out there at the moment, apparently. And it's not
just J.J., I guess.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <MPG.2aec4b2ac...@news.bigpond.com>,

Exactamundo.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <MPG.2aec48e52...@news.bigpond.com>,

Yay!

[Your Name]

In article <h6nt781bp86233jvg...@4ax.com>,
Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > So we've got The Search for Amulets on one J.J. show and The Search for
> > Walter's VCR Tapes on another J.J. show. Someone must have been reading
> > about scavenger hunts at some point in the recent past.

Don't forget the search for an actual plot / storyline in Abrams' "Lost". ;-)

[Dimensional Traveler]

Nothing is "just J.J.", he has to steal it from _somebody_.

[Your Name]

In article <50820e16$0$71160$742e...@news.sonic.net>, Dimensional

Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> The 'Enterprise' crew in the 2009 Star Trek are adrenaline addicted,
> hyper-active teenagers with ADD whose Ritalin got replaced with
> methamphetamine, displaying a level of discipline that a Somali
> pirate wouldn't tolerate.

"Spy Kids in Space" is what I call JJ Abrams' so-called "Star Trek" movie,
and similarly "Spy Kids to the Rescue" is what I call Jonathan Frakes'
so-called "Thunderbirds" movie. :-)

[Arthur Lipscomb]

If that's how you feel about then whatever you do, don't click on this
link...

http://www.toplessrobot.com/2010/07/the_10_hottest_doctor_who_companions.php

[David Barnett]

In article <k5v3td$v8c$1...@dont-email.me>,
art...@alum.calberkeley.org says...

I did click on the link in spite of the warning.
Different people, different tastes.

--
David Barnett

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k5v3td$v8c$1...@dont-email.me>,

So very very very very wrong, judgmentally and factually.

[Jim G.]

anim8rFSK sent the following on Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:17:10 -0700:

Ah, you're equating "characters" with Idiot Charlie and company. I was
thinking of them *and* of Monroe's goons, starting with Neville. And no
matter which wandering side finds out first, it's gonna impact *all* of
them in one way or another.