Re: "Inappropriate use of a body"
Pete B
invalid...@austin.rr.com says...
> My wife says some of the stuff going on goes beyond "bordereing" on
> unethical. Using someone's body for sex, to get drunk, to get drunk
> and have sex, etc, isn't quite proper.
Well, you could always debate that - but that is what they should have
done, instead of this soap opera stuff.
Lance Corporal Hammer Schultz
You have to assume the people lending out their bodies are volunteers
and know full well that people are going to do "things" with their
"parts."
--
Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz
Promote someone else.
peachy ashie passion
I'm still stuck on the idea that his wife needed to tell him the
morality of it all.
Um.
Dragon Lady
"peachy ashie passion" <exquisi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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He's a man. Do I really need to say more?
Pete B
star...@gmail.dot.com says...
Its better to assume they are forced for story telling reasons.
Also, would you accept a stranger showing up telling they were your
partner?
Well, perhaps men are easier there *g* - but then that's a story ,
someone on the destiny is jealous that her husband did have sex with
some gorgeous lieutenant !
"But wanted it!"
"I didn't know what I looked like at the time!"
Pete B
Oh and 'no' - I don't have to assume anything - I want the writers to
tell me!
Michael Bowker
> In article <1vinm6y5ngoiz$.dlg@starfist.thorsfinni>,
> star...@gmail.dot.com says...
>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:55:37 +0100, Pete B wrote:
>>
>>> In article <8gihg590q2873fugd...@4ax.com>,
>>> invalid...@austin.rr.com says...
>>>> My wife says some of the stuff going on goes beyond "bordereing" on
>>>> unethical. Using someone's body for sex, to get drunk, to get drunk
>>>> and have sex, etc, isn't quite proper.
>>> Well, you could always debate that - but that is what they should have
>>> done, instead of this soap opera stuff.
>> You have to assume the people lending out their bodies are volunteers
>> and know full well that people are going to do "things" with their
>> "parts."
>
> Oh and 'no' - I don't have to assume anything - I want the writers to
> tell me!
If you have to assume, it's bad writing.
Harold Groot
wrote:
Well... Young is a few billion light years from Earth, he's about as
lost as any human has ever been - and he still hasn't stopped to ask
for directions. Yup, he's a man. <g>
AC
"Michael Bowker" <mi...@rawbw.com> wrote in message
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Assume or deduce? Do you really need to be spoon fed?
The "lenders" are military, right? So, even if the "volunteered", is that
really "volunteered", or implied orders? If they did "volunteer", did they
do so out of fear for their future careers?
Again, another story I'd like to see covered in the series.
AC
rwgibson13
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> > Pete B wrote:
> >> starf...@gmail.dot.com says...
> >>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:55:37 +0100, Pete B wrote:
>
> >>>> invaliddmpy...@austin.rr.com says...
> >>>>> My wife says some of the stuff going on goes beyond "bordereing" on
> >>>>> unethical. Using someone's body for sex, to get drunk, to get drunk
> >>>>> and have sex, etc, isn't quite proper.
> >>>> Well, you could always debate that - but that is what they should have
> >>>> done, instead of this soap opera stuff.
> >>> You have to assume the people lending out their bodies are volunteers
> >>> and know full well that people are going to do "things" with their
> >>> "parts."
>
> >> Oh and 'no' - I don't have to assume anything - I want the writers to
> >> tell me!
>
> > If you have to assume, it's bad writing.
>
> Assume or deduce? Do you really need to be spoon fed?
>
> The "lenders" are military, right? So, even if the "volunteered", is that
> really "volunteered", or implied orders? If they did "volunteer", did they
> do so out of fear for their future careers?
>
> Again, another story I'd like to see covered in the series.
Well, they've had more than one scene with Telford that started with
someone stating that it was time for their shift, but he refuses to
leave. It could be just because of his rank and a healthy obsession
with wanting to control what goes on on Destiny, but it also implies
to me that the people who take "shifts" are, indeed, volunteering for
the process.
RWG (not withstanding any special "missions" that require specific
personell - like the one where they try to open the gate)
Lance Corporal Hammer Schultz
>> You have to assume the people lending out their bodies are volunteers
>> and know full well that people are going to do "things" with their
>> "parts."
>
> Its better to assume they are forced for story telling reasons.
Why is that? That doesn't make any sense. Obviously there are people
who *want* to go to Destiny and are willing to trade their body with
someone for a while to do it (like Telford). Why would the Air Force
need to "force" someone to give up their meat suit?
> Also, would you accept a stranger showing up telling they were your
> partner?
No, that's part of why believability is out the window with this
series. And it's funny in a sad way -- when everyone in the universe
spoke English in SG-1 and SGA, it wasn't exactly believable, but it
never *ever* got in the way of enjoying the story.
Michael Bowker
All the facts necessary to support the story must be provided or it's
bad writing. That's why it's fiction and not real life.
AC
I would accept that enough facts must be present to deduce a consistent
conclusion, but to say *all* is to argue for some real dumbed down
patronising writing.
AC
Pete B
star...@gmail.dot.com says...
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:23:31 +0100, Pete B wrote:
>
> >> You have to assume the people lending out their bodies are volunteers
> >> and know full well that people are going to do "things" with their
> >> "parts."
> >
> > Its better to assume they are forced for story telling reasons.
>
> Why is that? That doesn't make any sense. Obviously there are people
> who *want* to go to Destiny and are willing to trade their body with
> someone for a while to do it (like Telford). Why would the Air Force
> need to "force" someone to give up their meat suit?
For story telling reasons. (though obviously there are exceptions)
>
> > Also, would you accept a stranger showing up telling they were your
> > partner?
>
> No, that's part of why believability is out the window with this
> series. And it's funny in a sad way -- when everyone in the universe
> spoke English in SG-1 and SGA, it wasn't exactly believable, but it
> never *ever* got in the way of enjoying the story.
Though so far, everybody speaks english here as well *G*
But yeah.
Pete B
Dragon Lady
"Harold Groot" <que...@infionline.net> wrote in message
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*ROTFL*
See, that wasn't hard to figure out!
Legend-11
No, it's called granting your audience some brains and not dumbing
everything down..just so the likes of *you* can get your minds to
grapple with the story.
--
Legend-11.
"Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence" - Leonard
'Bones' McCoy, Star Trek (2009).
Legend-11
Exactly.
Legend-11
And you're a bloody hypocrite. You had a go at me for *jokingly* being
anti-feminist...yet I see no smilies here. Is man bashing acceptable now? :/
Legend-11
>
>>> You have to assume the people lending out their bodies are volunteers
>>> and know full well that people are going to do "things" with their
>>> "parts."
>> Its better to assume they are forced for story telling reasons.
>
> Why is that? That doesn't make any sense. Obviously there are people
> who *want* to go to Destiny and are willing to trade their body with
> someone for a while to do it (like Telford). Why would the Air Force
> need to "force" someone to give up their meat suit?
>
LOL @ "meat suit" :D
Legend-11
What's your point? The reason the cast speak English in SGU is because
they're all either American or British - you can hardly compare that
with alien races speaking English for no good or apparent reason. At
least Star Trek and Farscape addressed the issue...however much of a
stretch universal translators and translator microbes are.
Dragon Lady
"Legend-11" <Slith...@dropallthisgooglemail.com> wrote in message
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Yes, it is. Where have you been?
He's a fictional character, and a caraciture besides. Lighten up, dude.
Everybody here knows I was joking except you. I wasn't the only one who
thought *you* were serious.
Mark Nobles
Stop that, dammit. It's enough hate when DL says this crap. Don't
support her hate.
She's a woman. Do I really need to say more?
peachy ashie passion
*quirks an eyebrow*
Yes Mark, I think you really do. Tell me more, dear.
Pete B
nos...@comcast.net says...
> > Well... Young is a few billion light years from Earth, he's about as
> > lost as any human has ever been - and he still hasn't stopped to ask
> > for directions. Yup, he's a man. <g>
>
> Stop that, dammit. It's enough hate when DL says this crap. Don't
> support her hate.
>
> She's a woman. Do I really need to say more?
Oh go on, you know you want to ;)
Mark Nobles
<exquisi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thank you. You have just made my point.
clueless
gift of the timelords?
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peachy ashie passion
Your point was that if you say anything, you get asked to say more?
Dragon Lady
"Mark Nobles" <cmn-n...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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No, you've already displayed enough ignorance and stupidity for one day.
You want to play the hate game, I can play it too. But it's really more
bother than it's worth, you know.
Dragon Lady
You had a point?
Mark Nobles
Let me summarize the conversation:
DL: "All men are the same: stupid and amoral."
L-11: "No"
DL: "Ha Ha Ha. I was joking."
L-11: "Is man bashing acceptable now?"
DL: "Yes. It is. Where have you been?"
MN: "All women are the same."
PAP: "You'd best explain that."
DL (to MN): "You're stupid and amoral."
Can you say "Double Standard"? Yeah? No, I didn't think so. Guess
you all missed that half of Conscious Raising.
peachy ashie passion
Yeah, but how'd my playfully inviting you to dig yourself a hole and
jump in get lumped in here?
I mean, I thought you knew me well enough to know I was kiddin ?
I certainly didn't say angry words or anything...
Dragon Lady
You may have read that, but it isn't what I said, and that fact that you
would pretend it is just makes you look that much stupider.
> L-11: "No"
> DL: "Ha Ha Ha. I was joking."
> L-11: "Is man bashing acceptable now?"
> DL: "Yes. It is. Where have you been?"
>
> MN: "All women are the same."
> PAP: "You'd best explain that."
> DL (to MN): "You're stupid and amoral."
I also did not say this. The fact that you would pretend I did means you
probably are trolling me. Good luck with that.
>
> Can you say "Double Standard"? Yeah? No, I didn't think so. Guess
> you all missed that half of Conscious Raising.
L:ike you have room to talk about double standards, when you can dish it out
but don't think it's a bit funny when it gets handed back.
Dragon Lady
Mark Nobles
No. I don't want to play the hate game. And to you it isn't a game,
it's a way of life.
Compare our two comments:
"He's a man, Do I really need to say more?"
And you pretend that's a joke and that I'm stupid for not getting it.
"She's a woman. Do I really need to say more?"
And now you are offended and see nothing but ignorance and stupidity.
HAND, C.
Mark Nobles
<dragon...@q.com> wrote:
You lying sack of shit. I didn't think it was a bit funny when you
started it, and I didn't think it was funny when I showed you why your
"joke" wasn't funny. Now you start pretending that I started something
when YOU threw the first insult. I just played them back to you.
Ordinarily, I'd just kf you and move on, but I can't do that because,
outside this one subject of your determined hatefulness, you bring good
things to life.
BTW, the evidence that you are lying about who said what is preserved
right in the quotes above.
Dragon Lady
I strongly suggest you get over it. Either that, or just put me in a
killfile. Either way, I'm done. You don't like me, I get that. I just
don't care.
Dragon Lady
*LOL*
You're really funny when you're not trying to be. You don't know me from
Adam, and you think you can troll me. Get a life, dude.
Legend-11
OK...all is even.
:)