Worst Era of Doctor Who

[The Doctor]

Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
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[Wouter Valentijn]

Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:

> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>

For me the worst era was the first season of Capaldi.

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[The Doctor]

In article <iphak2...@mid.individual.net>,

Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>
>
>
>For me the worst era was the first season of Capaldi.
>

I love Clara and the Doctor!!

>--
>Wouter Valentijn
>
>Kirk: "No beach to walk on..."
>Star Trek (s01e07): The Naked Time
>
>http://www.prozaportal.j3v.net
>http://www.essayportal.j3v.net
>
>liam=mail

[Wouter Valentijn]

Op 4-9-2021 om 15:52 schreef The Doctor:

> In article <iphak2...@mid.individual.net>,
> Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>>
>>
>>
>> For me the worst era was the first season of Capaldi.
>>
>
> I love Clara and the Doctor!!
>

They were okay. It was some of the stories I found horrifyingly bad.

[Ninapenda Jibini]

Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote in news:iphak2F398aU2
@mid.individual.net:

> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>
>
>
> For me the worst era was the first season of Capaldi.
>

I agree, but only because Capaldi left The Musketeers to do it.

--
Terry Austin

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[anim8rfsk]

Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>
>
>
> For me the worst era was the first season of Capaldi.
>

They actually managed to make episodes with the impossibly cute Clara Odeon
Oswald that weren’t enjoyable.

—
“The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”

[Wouter Valentijn]

Op 4-9-2021 om 21:07 schreef anim8rfsk:

> Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>>
>>
>>
>> For me the worst era was the first season of Capaldi.
>>
>
> They actually managed to make episodes with the impossibly cute Clara Odeon
> Oswald that weren’t enjoyable.
>

Clara was great!

[The Last Doctor]

Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>
>
>
> For me the worst era was the first season of Capaldi.
>

Then you’ve never seen season 24, surely. I agree series 8 was poor and had
three of the worst concepts of the revived era. But nothing, nothing comes
near to the desperate shit that was “Time and The Rani”, and the almost
equally dire “Delta and the Bannermen” and “Paradise Towers”. “Dragonfire”
was merely crap.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

[Wouter Valentijn]

Op 4-9-2021 om 23:46 schreef The Last Doctor:

> Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>>
>>
>>
>> For me the worst era was the first season of Capaldi.
>>
>
> Then you’ve never seen season 24, surely. I agree series 8 was poor and had
> three of the worst concepts of the revived era. But nothing, nothing comes
> near to the desperate shit that was “Time and The Rani”, and the almost
> equally dire “Delta and the Bannermen” and “Paradise Towers”. “Dragonfire”
> was merely crap.
>

I haven't seen season 24.

What I have seen of the classic series are seasons 12, 13, parts of
seasons 14 and 15, one serial of season 18 and season 19, all thanks to
public television stations in the Low Countries and some DVDs. Plus
parts of season 26, when the BBC was admitted to our cable. It must have
been somewhere during the serial 'Ghost Light'. But I don't remember
much of those episodes. Only that Sylvester McCoy was the Doctor and his
companion was Ace.

I'm most familiar with the era of Philip Hinchcliff. When it comes to
the classic series. And from what I have seen I think that era was the best.

[anim8rfsk]

Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
> Op 4-9-2021 om 21:07 schreef anim8rfsk:
>> Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>>>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For me the worst era was the first season of Capaldi.
>>>
>>
>> They actually managed to make episodes with the impossibly cute Clara Odeon
>> Oswald that weren’t enjoyable.
>>
>
> Clara was great!
>
>

Yep!

--

[The Doctor]

In article <iphdh1...@mid.individual.net>,

Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>Op 4-9-2021 om 15:52 schreef The Doctor:
>> In article <iphak2...@mid.individual.net>,
>> Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>>>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For me the worst era was the first season of Capaldi.
>>>
>>
>> I love Clara and the Doctor!!
>>
>
>
>They were okay. It was some of the stories I found horrifyingly bad.
>

They are no where Chibnall's Timeless Child!

>
>--
>Wouter Valentijn
>
>Kirk: "No beach to walk on..."
>Star Trek (s01e07): The Naked Time
>
>http://www.prozaportal.j3v.net
>http://www.essayportal.j3v.net
>
>liam=mail

[The Doctor]

In article <914854975.652470406.41...@news.easynews.com>,

Clara and The Doctor worked better!

[The Doctor]

In article <ipi0kq...@mid.individual.net>,

Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>Op 4-9-2021 om 21:07 schreef anim8rfsk:
>> Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>>>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For me the worst era was the first season of Capaldi.
>>>
>>
>> They actually managed to make episodes with the impossibly cute Clara Odeon
>> Oswald that weren’t enjoyable.
>>
>
>Clara was great!
>

She worked well with Capaldi!

>
>--
>Wouter Valentijn
>
>Kirk: "No beach to walk on..."
>Star Trek (s01e07): The Naked Time
>
>http://www.prozaportal.j3v.net
>http://www.essayportal.j3v.net
>
>liam=mail

[The Doctor]

In article <sh0pf9$gho$1...@dont-email.me>,

The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>>
>>
>>
>> For me the worst era was the first season of Capaldi.
>>
>
>Then you’ve never seen season 24, surely. I agree series 8 was poor and had
>three of the worst concepts of the revived era. But nothing, nothing comes
>near to the desperate shit that was “Time and The Rani”, and the almost
>equally dire “Delta and the Bannermen” and “Paradise Towers”.
>“Dragonfire”
>was merely crap.
>

Season 24 is terrifically grand in comparison to
The chibnall's dreary and dreadful Timeless Child!

>--
>There are some corners of the universe
> which have bred the most terrible things.
>Things which act against everything we believe in.
>
>They must be /fought/.

[The Doctor]

In article <ipiatr...@mid.individual.net>,

Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>Op 4-9-2021 om 23:46 schreef The Last Doctor:
>> Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>>>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For me the worst era was the first season of Capaldi.
>>>
>>
>> Then you’ve never seen season 24, surely. I agree series 8 was poor and had
>> three of the worst concepts of the revived era. But nothing, nothing comes
>> near to the desperate shit that was “Time and The Rani”, and the almost
>> equally dire “Delta and the Bannermen” and “Paradise Towers”.
>“Dragonfire”
>> was merely crap.
>>
>
>I haven't seen season 24.
>
>What I have seen of the classic series are seasons 12, 13, parts of
>seasons 14 and 15, one serial of season 18 and season 19, all thanks to
>public television stations in the Low Countries and some DVDs. Plus
>parts of season 26, when the BBC was admitted to our cable. It must have
>been somewhere during the serial 'Ghost Light'. But I don't remember
>much of those episodes. Only that Sylvester McCoy was the Doctor and his
>companion was Ace.
>
>I'm most familiar with the era of Philip Hinchcliff. When it comes to
>the classic series. And from what I have seen I think that era was the best.
>

What about the The doctor and Mel?

>--
>Wouter Valentijn
>
>Kirk: "No beach to walk on..."
>Star Trek (s01e07): The Naked Time
>
>http://www.prozaportal.j3v.net
>http://www.essayportal.j3v.net
>
>liam=mail

[The Doctor]

In article <314829839.652480372.03...@news.easynews.com>,

Indeed.

[Wouter Valentijn]

Op 5-9-2021 om 03:16 schreef The Doctor:

> In article <ipiatr...@mid.individual.net>,
> Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>> Op 4-9-2021 om 23:46 schreef The Last Doctor:
>>> Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>>> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>>>>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For me the worst era was the first season of Capaldi.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Then you’ve never seen season 24, surely. I agree series 8 was poor and had
>>> three of the worst concepts of the revived era. But nothing, nothing comes
>>> near to the desperate shit that was “Time and The Rani”, and the almost
>>> equally dire “Delta and the Bannermen” and “Paradise Towers”.
>> “Dragonfire”
>>> was merely crap.
>>>
>>
>> I haven't seen season 24.
>>
>> What I have seen of the classic series are seasons 12, 13, parts of
>> seasons 14 and 15, one serial of season 18 and season 19, all thanks to
>> public television stations in the Low Countries and some DVDs. Plus
>> parts of season 26, when the BBC was admitted to our cable. It must have
>> been somewhere during the serial 'Ghost Light'. But I don't remember
>> much of those episodes. Only that Sylvester McCoy was the Doctor and his
>> companion was Ace.
>>
>> I'm most familiar with the era of Philip Hinchcliff. When it comes to
>> the classic series. And from what I have seen I think that era was the best.
>>
>
> What about the The doctor and Mel?
>

I see Mel was a Companion is seasons 23 and 24... So, I haven't had the
pleasure.

[The Doctor]

In article <ipj6vf...@mid.individual.net>,

I have a DVD of the season.

>
>--
>Wouter Valentijn
>
>Kirk: "No beach to walk on..."
>Star Trek (s01e07): The Naked Time
>
>http://www.prozaportal.j3v.net
>http://www.essayportal.j3v.net
>
>liam=mail

[The Doctor]

In article <sh24nl$no2$2...@gioia.aioe.org>,
Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:

>The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <sh0pf9$gho$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> >Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>> >> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>> >>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> For me the worst era was the first season of Capaldi.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Then you've never seen season 24, surely. I agree series 8 was poor
>> > and had three of the worst concepts of the revived era. But nothing,

>> > nothing comes near to the desperate s*t that was 'Time and The Rani',

>> > and the almost equally dire 'Delta and the Bannermen' and 'Paradise
>> > Towers'. 'Dragonfire'
>> > was merely crap.
>> >
>>
>> Season 24 is terrifically grand in comparison to
>> The chibnall's dreary and dreadful Timeless Child!
>

>S24 was terrible Dave... seriously. One of the worst there's ever been!
>

NO way!

Battlefield

8/10 Brings back some old elements. Brings in a new UNIT Brigadier.

The Doctor stops the villain in it track. GRA?ND stuff!

Ghostlight!

7/10

I hate evolution! MY bias aside. Ace faces her past
and the Doctor faces pre-earth elements!

I wonder if Katherine Schlesinger and Nancy Schlesinger are cousins.


Curse of Fenric 8/10 !

The Doctor again gets Ace the face her past
and
He has to face an old foe.

Fenric might die could be back for mre.

Survival 8/10 !

If we fight like animals , we die like animals!

Nice to see Ace has a sister.

I was hoping for Season 27 are the end of this one!

As for S24

Time and the Rani

8/10

This was menat for Colin Baker


The Rani is up to her evil and fails!

The Doctor saves the Day.

The tetraps take the Rani back to her home planet.

Autonomy for the hostaged aliens!

Delta and the Bannerman

6/10 but lots of fun

Paradise Towers 7/10

Love the philosophy behind it.

Dragonfire 8/10

Glitz , Ace and Mel with the Doctor
and a cold villain.

Loved it!

[Blueshirt]

On 09/09/2021 15:03, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <sh24nl$no2$2...@gioia.aioe.org>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>> Season 24 is terrifically grand in comparison to
>>> The chibnall's dreary and dreadful Timeless Child!
>>
>> S24 was terrible Dave... seriously. One of the worst there's ever been!
>
> NO way!

[S26 mini-review snipped]

> As for S24
>
> Time and the Rani
>
> 8/10

Anyone giving "Time and the Rani" an 8/10 rating is seriously delusional.

If I was the BBC1 Controller in 1987 I'd have pulled the plug on that
crap right there and then.

[The Doctor]

In article <shfggi$kkg$1...@dont-email.me>,

Therefore BS trolls Doctor Who groups!

[Blueshirt]

On 10/09/2021 13:23, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <shfggi$kkg$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>> On 09/09/2021 15:03, The Doctor wrote:
>>
>>> As for S24
>>>
>>> Time and the Rani
>>>
>>> 8/10
>>
>> Anyone giving "Time and the Rani" an 8/10 rating is seriously delusional.
>>
>> If I was the BBC1 Controller in 1987 I'd have pulled the plug on that
>> crap right there and then.
>
> Therefore BS trolls Doctor Who groups!

A different opinion to you on the Sylvester McCoy era is not trolling.

[The Doctor]

In article <shfsee$7bb$1...@dont-email.me>,

Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>On 10/09/2021 13:23, The Doctor wrote:
>> In article <shfggi$kkg$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>>> On 09/09/2021 15:03, The Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>>> As for S24
>>>>
>>>> Time and the Rani
>>>>
>>>> 8/10
>>>
>>> Anyone giving "Time and the Rani" an 8/10 rating is seriously delusional.
>>>
>>> If I was the BBC1 Controller in 1987 I'd have pulled the plug on that
>>> crap right there and then.
>>
>> Therefore BS trolls Doctor Who groups!
>
>A different opinion to you on the Sylvester McCoy era is not trolling.
>

Were you part of the Anti-MCCoy Laugh shack years ago?

[Idlehands]

On 10/09/2021 6:23 a.m., The Doctor wrote:
> In article <shfggi$kkg$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>> On 09/09/2021 15:03, The Doctor wrote:
>>> In article <sh24nl$no2$2...@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Season 24 is terrifically grand in comparison to
>>>>> The chibnall's dreary and dreadful Timeless Child!
>>>>
>>>> S24 was terrible Dave... seriously. One of the worst there's ever been!
>>>
>>> NO way!
>>
>> [S26 mini-review snipped]
>>
>>> As for S24
>>>
>>> Time and the Rani
>>>
>>> 8/10
>>
>> Anyone giving "Time and the Rani" an 8/10 rating is seriously delusional.
>>
>> If I was the BBC1 Controller in 1987 I'd have pulled the plug on that
>> crap right there and then.
>
> Therefore BS trolls Doctor Who groups!
>

Get over yourself binky the bigot, disagreeing with your opinion is not
"trolling", but then you don't worry about understand meanings, you just
keep throwing crap to keep your post count up.



--
"Circuses struggle to find new clowns as top prospects continue to go
into politics"
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[Blueshirt]

On 10/09/2021 23:20, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <shfsee$7bb$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>> On 10/09/2021 13:23, The Doctor wrote:
>>> In article <shfggi$kkg$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>> On 09/09/2021 15:03, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Time and the Rani
>>>>>
>>>>> 8/10
>>>>
>>>> Anyone giving "Time and the Rani" an 8/10 rating is seriously delusional.
>>>>
>>>> If I was the BBC1 Controller in 1987 I'd have pulled the plug on that
>>>> crap right there and then.
>>>
>>> Therefore BS trolls Doctor Who groups!
>>
>> A different opinion to you on the Sylvester McCoy era is not trolling.
>
> Were you part of the Anti-MCCoy Laugh shack years ago?

No. I wasn't. I just lurked and laughed through all the flames...

[The Doctor]

In article <shhv9f$tcd$1...@dont-email.me>,

Good man. Those were Chibnallite twits!

[Wouter Valentijn]

Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>

Funny thing: did you know that in Dutch 'worst' means sausage? :-)

[suzeeq]

On 9/11/2021 10:43 AM, Wouter Valentijn wrote:
> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>
>
> Funny thing: did you know that in Dutch 'worst' means sausage?  :-)

That's 'Wurst'. With an umalaut over the U.

[Wouter Valentijn]

Op 11-9-2021 om 20:00 schreef suzeeq:

Nope. That happens to be *German*.

[suzeeq]

On 9/11/2021 12:16 PM, Wouter Valentijn wrote:
> Op 11-9-2021 om 20:00 schreef suzeeq:
>> On 9/11/2021 10:43 AM, Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>>> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>>>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Funny thing: did you know that in Dutch 'worst' means sausage?  :-)
>>
>> That's 'Wurst'. With an umalaut over the U.
>
>
> Nope. That happens to be *German*.
>

Ahh, thought it would be similar.

[Wouter Valentijn]

Op 11-9-2021 om 22:56 schreef suzeeq:

Dutch and German are very different languages.

And you do know that *I* am Dutch? :-)

They are with English part of the same family of languages of course.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germanic_languages

An interesting comparison of some words can be found here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germanic_languages#West_Germanic_vocabulary

It is my experience that learning English is WAY easier than learning
German. I had some German in school but most of my knowledge is kinda
rusty nowadays. Because I hardly read or hear it. Practice makes perfect
and if you don't practice.... You get the idea.
Meanwhile in the Netherlands we are inundated with English through
music, television, movies, comics, literature etc. Unlike other cultures
we mostly use subtitles and only use dubbing for little children. We get
to hear it as it is with a translation thrown in in text.
And come the 80s and further we even got access to English language
television stations, such as Sky- and Superchannel, and from 1989 and
onwards the BBC itself and CNN etc.

A small number of English words are even identical in Dutch, albeit the
sound is just slightly different: 'water', 'winter', 'land' have the
same spelling and meaning, but only sound a bit different.
And besides those a great number of words originating in Anglophonic
countries have been adopted into Dutch without changing the spelling.
English terms in general have become very popular here.

[The Doctor]

In article <iq486e...@mid.individual.net>,

Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>
>
>Funny thing: did you know that in Dutch 'worst' means sausage? :-)
>

LOL!

>--
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>
>Kirk: "No beach to walk on..."
>Star Trek (s01e07): The Naked Time
>
>http://www.prozaportal.j3v.net
>http://www.essayportal.j3v.net
>
>liam=mail

[suzeeq]

On 9/11/2021 2:37 PM, Wouter Valentijn wrote:
> Op 11-9-2021 om 22:56 schreef suzeeq:
>> On 9/11/2021 12:16 PM, Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>>> Op 11-9-2021 om 20:00 schreef suzeeq:
>>>> On 9/11/2021 10:43 AM, Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>>>>> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>>>>>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny thing: did you know that in Dutch 'worst' means sausage?  :-)
>>>>
>>>> That's 'Wurst'. With an umalaut over the U.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nope. That happens to be *German*.
>>>
>>
>> Ahh, thought it would be similar.
>>
>
>
> Dutch and German are very different languages.
>
> And you do know that *I* am Dutch? :-)

Somewhat vaguely. ;)

>
> They are with English part of the same family of languages of course.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germanic_languages
>
> An interesting comparison of some words can be found here:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germanic_languages#West_Germanic_vocabulary
>
>
> It is my experience that learning English is WAY easier than learning
> German. I had some German in school but most of my knowledge is kinda
> rusty nowadays. Because I hardly read or hear it. Practice makes perfect
> and if you don't practice.... You get the idea.

Me also. They kept wanting us to translate stories and literature, not
really conversing int it.

> Meanwhile in the Netherlands we are inundated with English through
> music, television, movies, comics, literature etc. Unlike other cultures
> we mostly use subtitles and only use dubbing for little children. We get
> to hear it as it is with a translation thrown in in text.
> And come the 80s and further we even got access to English language
> television stations, such as Sky- and Superchannel, and from 1989  and
> onwards the BBC itself and CNN etc.
>
> A small number of English words are even identical in Dutch, albeit the
> sound is just slightly different: 'water', 'winter', 'land' have the
> same spelling and meaning, but only sound a bit different.
> And besides those a great number of words originating in Anglophonic
> countries have been adopted into Dutch without changing the spelling.
> English terms in general have become very popular here.

I found German fairly easy because of the similarity to many English
words. I have also heard some similarities to Dutch when I watch a
subtitled show.

[The Doctor]

Dunkaschoen!

[The Doctor]

In article <iq4djn...@mid.individual.net>,

Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>Op 11-9-2021 om 20:00 schreef suzeeq:
>> On 9/11/2021 10:43 AM, Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>>> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>>>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Funny thing: did you know that in Dutch 'worst' means sausage?  :-)
>>
>> That's 'Wurst'. With an umalaut over the U.
>
>
>Nope. That happens to be *German*.
>

Bedankt Directeur!

>
>--
>Wouter Valentijn
>
>Kirk: "No beach to walk on..."
>Star Trek (s01e07): The Naked Time
>
>http://www.prozaportal.j3v.net
>http://www.essayportal.j3v.net
>
>liam=mail

[The Doctor]

Egads!!

[The Doctor]

In article <iq4lsh...@mid.individual.net>,

The v sound for w IIRC.

>--
>Wouter Valentijn
>
>Kirk: "No beach to walk on..."
>Star Trek (s01e07): The Naked Time
>
>http://www.prozaportal.j3v.net
>http://www.essayportal.j3v.net
>
>liam=mail

[The Doctor]

Maybe less than 15% similar!

[Wouter Valentijn]

Op 12-9-2021 om 00:37 schreef The Doctor:

That is not the case.
Maybe you're thinking of Star Trek's Mister Chekov saying 'Nuclear
Wessel'? ;-)
The Dutch 'W' sounds like the English 'W'. Only we don't call it 'double
U'. To English ears our word for the letter 'W' sounds like 'way'.

There is something funny with 'J' and 'Y' though.

For instance 'Yolanda' in Dutch would be 'Jolanda', but it sounds
practically exactly the same.

[Wouter Valentijn]

Op 12-9-2021 om 00:28 schreef The Doctor:

> In article <shiqs2$2ap$1...@solani.org>, suzeeq <su...@imbris.com> wrote:
>> On 9/11/2021 10:43 AM, Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>>> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>>>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Funny thing: did you know that in Dutch 'worst' means sausage?  :-)
>>
>> That's 'Wurst'. With an umalaut over the U.
>
> Dunkaschoen!
>

dankeschön

BTW: 'schoen' is Dutch for 'shoe'.

[The Doctor]

In article <iq5l42...@mid.individual.net>,

J was introduced in around the 16th century.

>
>--
>Wouter Valentijn
>
>Kirk: "No beach to walk on..."
>Star Trek (s01e07): The Naked Time
>
>http://www.prozaportal.j3v.net
>http://www.essayportal.j3v.net
>
>liam=mail

[The Doctor]

In article <iq5l76...@mid.individual.net>,

Wouter Valentijn <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>Op 12-9-2021 om 00:28 schreef The Doctor:
>> In article <shiqs2$2ap$1...@solani.org>, suzeeq <su...@imbris.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/11/2021 10:43 AM, Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>>>> Op 4-9-2021 om 15:10 schreef The Doctor:
>>>>> Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Funny thing: did you know that in Dutch 'worst' means sausage?  :-)
>>>
>>> That's 'Wurst'. With an umalaut over the U.
>>
>> Dunkaschoen!
>>
>
>dankeschön
>
>BTW: 'schoen' is Dutch for 'shoe'.
>

Bedankt directeur.

>--
>Wouter Valentijn
>
>Kirk: "No beach to walk on..."
>Star Trek (s01e07): The Naked Time
>
>http://www.prozaportal.j3v.net
>http://www.essayportal.j3v.net
>
>liam=mail

[T987654321]

Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.

[Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha]

T987654321 <qwrt...@gmail.com> wrote in news:86faaf77-e8e3-4032-
a6fa-1c46...@googlegroups.com:

> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.
>

Or shambling zombie corpse.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

[Your Name]

On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:
>
> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.

That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an existing
character to appease the idiot "Politically Correct" whiners.

[Blueshirt]

Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will probably do
exactly the same thing next year.

[The Doctor]

In article <86faaf77-e8e3-4032...@googlegroups.com>,

T987654321 <qwrt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.

Called Chibnall's Timeless Child!

[The Doctor]

In article <86faaf77-e8e3-4032...@googlegroups.com>,
T987654321 <qwrt...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.

Called Chibnall's Timeless Child.

[The Doctor]

In article <XnsADA88776245...@85.12.62.232>,

Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>T987654321 <qwrt...@gmail.com> wrote in news:86faaf77-e8e3-4032-
>a6fa-1c46...@googlegroups.com:
>
>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.
>>
>Or shambling zombie corpse.
>

That would explain Jodie Whittaker.

>--
>Terry Austin
>
>Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
>Lynn:
>https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
>(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
>illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)
>
>Vacation photos from Iceland:
>https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
>

[The Doctor]

In article <si31f5$1n8f$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,

Hear! Hear!!

[The Doctor]

In article <si328v$qn5$2...@dont-email.me>,

Dooming the franchise in the process.

[Your Name]

It's by no means just the BBC either. For example, Moore-Ron's awful
"Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed 'Starbuck' into a woman. Those
are just two of many many examples.

Add in the shows/movies where they purposely gender/race-swap an
existing character, but at least have the decency to give the
show/movie a different name and pretend it's a different character
(e.g. Doogie Howser reboot), and there's even more examples.

[The Doctor]

In article <si3bgg$17j3$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,

Well said!

[Dimensional Traveler]

On 9/17/2021 1:18 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
> T987654321 <qwrt...@gmail.com> wrote in news:86faaf77-e8e3-4032-
> a6fa-1c46...@googlegroups.com:
>
>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.
>>
> Or shambling zombie corpse.
>

A Pathetic Parody of a Shambling Zombie Corpse.

(Now how to set that to Model of a Modern Major General....)

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

[The Doctor]

In article <si3d6m$pug$2...@dont-email.me>,

Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>On 9/17/2021 1:18 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> T987654321 <qwrt...@gmail.com> wrote in news:86faaf77-e8e3-4032-
>> a6fa-1c46...@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.
>>>
>> Or shambling zombie corpse.
>>
>A Pathetic Parody of a Shambling Zombie Corpse.
>
>(Now how to set that to Model of a Modern Major General....)
>

Oh!!

>--
>I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
>dirty old man.

[Ninapenda Jibini]

Your Name <Your...@YourISP.com> wrote in
news:si3bgg$17j3$1...@gioia.aioe.org:

> On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>> On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
>>> On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:
>>>>
>>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
>>>> parody.
>>>
>>> That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an
>>> existing character to appease the idiot "Politically Correct"
>>> whiners.
>>
>> Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
>> probably do exactly the same thing next year.
>
> It's by no means just the BBC either. For example, Moore-Ron's
> awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed 'Starbuck' into a
> woman. Those are just two of many many examples.
>

Along with about half the characters recognizable from the original
show. And they made everything the exact opposite. Instead of the
Galactica being the flagship, it was so archaic it was being turned
into a museum. Instead of being robots, the Cylons were biological
constructs. Instead of being an evil genius, Baltar was a sniveling
coward and a moron. And so on.

Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

[Mike McKeown]

On 18/09/2021 01:51, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 9/17/2021 1:18 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> T987654321 <qwrt...@gmail.com> wrote in news:86faaf77-e8e3-4032-
>> a6fa-1c46...@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.
>>>
>> Or shambling zombie corpse.
>>
> A Pathetic Parody of a Shambling Zombie Corpse.
>
> (Now how to set that to Model of a Modern Major General....)
>

I'm a pathetic parody of Your Name's shambling zombie corpse
I utter right wing "PC" jibes at all the things the zeitgeist warps
To big-up women gays and ethnic groups is evil says NewsCorp
This century is not for me, how long until the penny drops?

[Mike McKeown]

They've taken all my heroes and transformed them to update their shows
My case in point is Doctor Who, they've made the lead a woman - though
A dozen times they've changed his height, his age, his weight but even so
Shape-shifting aliens can only be straight white male Brits you know!

[Your Name]

On 2021-09-18 04:29:51 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:

> Your Name <Your...@YourISP.com> wrote in
> news:si3bgg$17j3$1...@gioia.aioe.org:
>
>> On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>>> On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
>>>> On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
>>>>> parody.
>>>>
>>>> That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an
>>>> existing character to appease the idiot "Politically Correct"
>>>> whiners.
>>>
>>> Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
>>> probably do exactly the same thing next year.
>>
>> It's by no means just the BBC either. For example, Moore-Ron's
>> awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed 'Starbuck' into a
>> woman. Those are just two of many many examples.
>
> Along with about half the characters recognizable from the original
> show. And they made everything the exact opposite. Instead of the
> Galactica being the flagship, it was so archaic it was being turned
> into a museum. Instead of being robots, the Cylons were biological
> constructs. Instead of being an evil genius, Baltar was a sniveling
> coward and a moron. And so on.
>
> Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.

Moore-Ron changed it to the exact opposite of everything the original
creator made it to be, including changing it from a good easy-going
show to hard-going, over-realistic and over-sexed boring crap.

[Ninapenda Jibini]

Your Name <Your...@YourISP.com> wrote in

news:si6io0$tdn$1...@gioia.aioe.org:

Even by the stardards of the late 70s, it was pretty cheesy. That
was one of Glen Larson's trademarks. (That's not to say it was bad,
or that I didn't like it, or even that I don't like it *now*, but I
really don't miss the diary products.)

[Your Name]

Whether or not any individual person likes it, *that* is how Larson
created it to be ... that's what "Battlestar Galactica" *is* and always
will be.

Some over-egoed talentless moron comes along later and *thinks* they
know what "it should have been" is simply ridiculous, selfish, and
obnoxious. If Moore-Ron and the studio (mis)managament wanted to create
such a totally different show, then they should have created his *own*
show with it's own name, not butcher someone else's work and try to
pretend it's the same thing.

It's the same with all the other imbecilic actual "reboots" Hollywerid
keeps churning out. (As opposed to "remakes" and "sequel" shows, which
may or may not be stupid ideas too.)

[Ninapenda Jibini]

Your Name <Your...@YourISP.com> wrote in

news:si8b9i$1991$1...@gioia.aioe.org:

I won't argue with the idea that the remake would have been more
enjoyable if they'd called it something else.

>
> Some over-egoed talentless moron comes along later and *thinks*
> they know what "it should have been" is simply ridiculous,
> selfish, and obnoxious. If Moore-Ron and the studio
> (mis)managament wanted to create such a totally different show,
> then they should have created his *own* show with it's own name,
> not butcher someone else's work and try to pretend it's the same
> thing.

Given that it got the highest ratings of any show in history of the
Syphilis Channel (at the time, and possibly still), it apparently
had something going for it, whether you whine about it like a two
year old with a dirty diaper or not.

>
> It's the same with all the other imbecilic actual "reboots"
> Hollywerid keeps churning out. (As opposed to "remakes" and
> "sequel" shows, which may or may not be stupid ideas too.)
>

Hollywood ran out of ideas decades ago, and is too cheap to buy
more. That's the inevitable end game of turning a creative art into
a business, especially one that involves that much money.

[Your Name]

Calling it something else would have been sensible, unfortunately
neither Hollyweird nor management are ever sensible. :-(

In terms of proper "Battlestar Galactica", the best idea would have
been to do the original idea of a proper follow-on show (that had
already been started!) ... or not do it at all.

>> Some over-egoed talentless moron comes along later and *thinks*
>> they know what "it should have been" is simply ridiculous,
>> selfish, and obnoxious. If Moore-Ron and the studio
>> (mis)managament wanted to create such a totally different show,
>> then they should have created his *own* show with it's own name,
>> not butcher someone else's work and try to pretend it's the same
>> thing.
>
> Given that it got the highest ratings of any show in history of the
> Syphilis Channel (at the time, and possibly still), it apparently
> had something going for it, whether you whine about it like a two
> year old with a dirty diaper or not.

As above, whether or not any individual person likes it or wether it
was more popular or not aren't actually relevant - the point was that
Moore-Ron's show is *not* "Battlestar Galactica" and never will be.

>> It's the same with all the other imbecilic actual "reboots"
>> Hollywerid keeps churning out. (As opposed to "remakes" and
>> "sequel" shows, which may or may not be stupid ideas too.)
>
> Hollywood ran out of ideas decades ago, and is too cheap to buy
> more. That's the inevitable end game of turning a creative art into
> a business, especially one that involves that much money.

It isn't even just Hollyweird. It's the whole entertainment industry.
Comic book also have idiotic reboots where they change their existing
characters. There are a few different Spider-men now, Batman changed
from ordinary comic superhero into a dismally dark "Dark Knight"
version, etc.

Even in books they release a new book in an on-going series, but
stupidly give it a completely differecnt cover design that doesn match
the existing ones (and of course they re-release the older books with
the new cover).

Most of it is pure seflish greed to shovel more money into their own
pockets and screw the original fans who made it popular in the first
place. :-(

[Ninapenda Jibini]

Your Name <Your...@YourISP.com> wrote in

news:si8f8p$nb3$1...@gioia.aioe.org:

And never has been.

>
> In terms of proper "Battlestar Galactica", the best idea would
> have been to do the original idea of a proper follow-on show
> (that had already been started!) ... or not do it at all.
>

You mean like Battlestar Galactica 1980?

>
>
>
>
>>> Some over-egoed talentless moron comes along later and
>>> *thinks* they know what "it should have been" is simply
>>> ridiculous, selfish, and obnoxious. If Moore-Ron and the
>>> studio (mis)managament wanted to create such a totally
>>> different show, then they should have created his *own* show
>>> with it's own name, not butcher someone else's work and try to
>>> pretend it's the same thing.
>>
>> Given that it got the highest ratings of any show in history of
>> the Syphilis Channel (at the time, and possibly still), it
>> apparently had something going for it, whether you whine about
>> it like a two year old with a dirty diaper or not.
>
> As above, whether or not any individual person likes it or
> wether it was more popular or not aren't actually relevant

Except to the people who spend millions of dollars making it.

> - the
> point was that Moore-Ron's show is *not* "Battlestar Galactica"
> and never will be.

Because, of course, the name belongs to you, so you get ot decide
what is and isn't suitable for its use. How much did you pay for
it?

>
>
>
>>> It's the same with all the other imbecilic actual "reboots"
>>> Hollywerid keeps churning out. (As opposed to "remakes" and
>>> "sequel" shows, which may or may not be stupid ideas too.)
>>
>> Hollywood ran out of ideas decades ago, and is too cheap to buy
>> more. That's the inevitable end game of turning a creative art
>> into a business, especially one that involves that much money.
>
> It isn't even just Hollyweird. It's the whole entertainment
> industry.

Most of which is owned by movie studios these days.

> Comic book also have idiotic reboots where they change
> their existing characters. There are a few different Spider-men
> now, Batman changed from ordinary comic superhero into a
> dismally dark "Dark Knight" version, etc.

That's as inherent as part of the genre as "if they're dead,
they're not dead, and if you have a body, that proves they're not
dead."

It's like complaning that cop shows have chase scenes.

>
> Even in books they release a new book in an on-going series, but
> stupidly give it a completely differecnt cover design that doesn
> match the existing ones (and of course they re-release the older
> books with the new cover).

It's not like the cover artists read the books, or even the short
description of the scene they're supposed to illustrate. Hell, most
of them don't read the title.

One of the advantages of ebooks is that I can *change* the cover to
whatever I want.

>
> Most of it is pure seflish greed to shovel more money into their
> own pockets and screw the original fans who made it popular in
> the first place. :-(
>

That being the point of bunning a business, after all.

You seem to be suffering from a common delusion in fandom: that
*you* own the property, not the people who actually do.

[Your Name]

Nope, that was also rebooted drivel that had little to do with the
original show.

I meant a proper sequel show, ignoring that "Galactica 1980 garbage,
like the show that was originally planned and had begun work on before
Moore-Ron took over.

>>>> Some over-egoed talentless moron comes along later and
>>>> *thinks* they know what "it should have been" is simply
>>>> ridiculous, selfish, and obnoxious. If Moore-Ron and the
>>>> studio (mis)managament wanted to create such a totally
>>>> different show, then they should have created his *own* show
>>>> with it's own name, not butcher someone else's work and try to
>>>> pretend it's the same thing.
>>>
>>> Given that it got the highest ratings of any show in history of
>>> the Syphilis Channel (at the time, and possibly still), it
>>> apparently had something going for it, whether you whine about
>>> it like a two year old with a dirty diaper or not.
>>
>> As above, whether or not any individual person likes it or
>> wether it was more popular or not aren't actually relevant
>
> Except to the people who spend millions of dollars making it.

Relevant to the point. :-\

>> - the point was that Moore-Ron's show is *not* "Battlestar Galactica"
>> and never will be.
>
> Because, of course, the name belongs to you, so you get ot decide
> what is and isn't suitable for its use. How much did you pay for
> it?

The name belong to the original product and its creator. It was created
by him to be exactly as it was.

>>>> It's the same with all the other imbecilic actual "reboots"
>>>> Hollywerid keeps churning out. (As opposed to "remakes" and
>>>> "sequel" shows, which may or may not be stupid ideas too.)
>>>
>>> Hollywood ran out of ideas decades ago, and is too cheap to buy
>>> more. That's the inevitable end game of turning a creative art
>>> into a business, especially one that involves that much money.
>>
>> It isn't even just Hollyweird. It's the whole entertainment
>> industry.
>
> Most of which is owned by movie studios these days.

Some of it is becoming owned by the electronics manufacturers (Sony,
Apple) and web-retailers (Amazon).

>> Comic book also have idiotic reboots where they change
>> their existing characters. There are a few different Spider-men
>> now, Batman changed from ordinary comic superhero into a
>> dismally dark "Dark Knight" version, etc.
>
> That's as inherent as part of the genre as "if they're dead,
> they're not dead, and if you have a body, that proves they're not
> dead."
>
> It's like complaning that cop shows have chase scenes.

Completely different.

>> Even in books they release a new book in an on-going series, but
>> stupidly give it a completely differecnt cover design that doesn
>> match the existing ones (and of course they re-release the older
>> books with the new cover).
>
> It's not like the cover artists read the books, or even the short
> description of the scene they're supposed to illustrate. Hell, most
> of them don't read the title.

I was talking more about the design style of the cover, as well as the
physical size of the book in some cases.

> One of the advantages of ebooks is that I can *change* the cover to
> whatever I want.

Defeats the purpose since you can't have them sitting in a row on the
book shelf.

>> Most of it is pure seflish greed to shovel more money into their
>> own pockets and screw the original fans who made it popular in
>> the first place. :-(
>
> That being the point of bunning a business, after all.

No, the purpose of running a business is to satisfy the customer - in
this case it is (or at least should be!) the fans who have helped make
it a successful product. Yet what they get is a silly "reboot" ... a
moronically stupid idea that anyone with sense wouldn't even dream up
(but as above, Hollyweird has no sense) - it kicks the existing fans in
the teeth, while re-using the same name means the non-fans they're
supposedly trying to attract are already less likely to give it a look
(why would anyone with a braincell who didn't like the original show
bother to even watch something using the same name!?).

> You seem to be suffering from a common delusion in fandom: that
> *you* own the property, not the people who actually do.

I never said anything about "owning" it.

[Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha]

Your Name <Your...@YourISP.com> wrote in

news:si9aed$1cft$1...@gioia.aioe.org:

Oh, you sweet, innocent child.

>
>> You seem to be suffering from a common delusion in fandom: that
>> *you* own the property, not the people who actually do.
>
> I never said anything about "owning" it.
>

And yet, you make grand pronouncements about it that are the
purview of those who own it. Glad you agree you're full of it.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration