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David
Aug 29, 2017, 9:23:53 AM8/29/17
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http://variety.com/2017/tv/features/star-trek-discovery-preview-cbs-all-access-sonequa-martin-green-1202540540/
Can ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Help CBS Boldly Go Into a Streaming Future?
by Daniel Holloway
Like a big sci-fi feature, “Discovery” hasn’t been cheap: The average
episode costs $8 million-$8.5 million. “It was like shooting a movie,
the scale of it,” Yeoh says of making the pilot, which was directed by
David Semel, who clashed with Fuller. “It wasn’t just ‘Quick, let’s
get the shot. Move, move.’ ”
Only a handful of shows have ever had the kind of budget that
“Discovery” has. And many, like “Discovery,” were dogged by reports of
behind-the-scenes drama. Netflix sacrificed its
more-successful-than-thou image to cancel “Marco Polo” and “The Get
Down.” “Vinyl” contributed to the firing of HBO’s Michael Lombardo,
one of the most successful programming execs of the last decade.
Others notably have recovered: “Westworld,” plagued by delay and
controversy, became HBO’s most-watched freshman series ever. “Game of
Thrones” famously had to scrap its pilot; it has gone on to win more
Emmys than any other drama series. And “The Walking Dead” remains TV’s
highest-rated show in the 18-49 demo even as a vicious court battle
between AMC and former showrunner Frank Darabont spills into public.
Moonves expects “Discovery” to be a big driver of subscribers , though
he declines to name an exact figure.
“Look, this was a big call for us,” he says of placing “Discovery” on
All Access. He notes that both the CBS network and Showtime wanted the
series, as did Amazon and Netflix, which will stream it
internationally. (With the Netflix deal, the number of new All Access
subscriptions “Discovery” is expected to generate and other factors,
CBS considers the series paid for.)
Can ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Help CBS Boldly Go Into a Streaming Future?
by Daniel Holloway
Like a big sci-fi feature, “Discovery” hasn’t been cheap: The average
episode costs $8 million-$8.5 million. “It was like shooting a movie,
the scale of it,” Yeoh says of making the pilot, which was directed by
David Semel, who clashed with Fuller. “It wasn’t just ‘Quick, let’s
get the shot. Move, move.’ ”
Only a handful of shows have ever had the kind of budget that
“Discovery” has. And many, like “Discovery,” were dogged by reports of
behind-the-scenes drama. Netflix sacrificed its
more-successful-than-thou image to cancel “Marco Polo” and “The Get
Down.” “Vinyl” contributed to the firing of HBO’s Michael Lombardo,
one of the most successful programming execs of the last decade.
Others notably have recovered: “Westworld,” plagued by delay and
controversy, became HBO’s most-watched freshman series ever. “Game of
Thrones” famously had to scrap its pilot; it has gone on to win more
Emmys than any other drama series. And “The Walking Dead” remains TV’s
highest-rated show in the 18-49 demo even as a vicious court battle
between AMC and former showrunner Frank Darabont spills into public.
Moonves expects “Discovery” to be a big driver of subscribers , though
he declines to name an exact figure.
“Look, this was a big call for us,” he says of placing “Discovery” on
All Access. He notes that both the CBS network and Showtime wanted the
series, as did Amazon and Netflix, which will stream it
internationally. (With the Netflix deal, the number of new All Access
subscriptions “Discovery” is expected to generate and other factors,
CBS considers the series paid for.)
Rhino
Aug 29, 2017, 9:30:08 AM8/29/17
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steaming pile of political correctness and diversity lacking in any
semblance of an exciting story....
--
Rhino
Ian J. Ball
Aug 29, 2017, 10:05:16 AM8/29/17
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On 2017-08-29 13:23:42 +0000, David said:
> http://variety.com/2017/tv/features/star-trek-discovery-preview-cbs-all-access-sonequa-martin-green-1202540540/
>
>
> Can ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Help CBS Boldly Go Into a Streaming Future?
> by Daniel Holloway
>
> Like a big sci-fi feature, “Discovery” hasn’t been cheap: The average
> episode costs $8 million-$8.5 million.
And so *not* worth "every penny"?...
> http://variety.com/2017/tv/features/star-trek-discovery-preview-cbs-all-access-sonequa-martin-green-1202540540/
>
>
> Can ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Help CBS Boldly Go Into a Streaming Future?
> by Daniel Holloway
>
> Like a big sci-fi feature, “Discovery” hasn’t been cheap: The average
> episode costs $8 million-$8.5 million.
--
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of "kill"?" - M-OC, "A Perilous Rescue" (ep. #2.9), LSW:TFA (08-10-2017)
anim8rfsk
Aug 29, 2017, 11:46:22 AM8/29/17
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In article <hiqaqc5mg2i837edg...@4ax.com>,
David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://variety.com/2017/tv/features/star-trek-discovery-preview-cbs-all-access
Most of that's probably going as overhead to the various people they
hired and fired that aren't working on the show but are still credited
and getting paid.
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David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://variety.com/2017/tv/features/star-trek-discovery-preview-cbs-all-access
hired and fired that aren't working on the show but are still credited
and getting paid.
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Neill Massello
Aug 29, 2017, 2:57:03 PM8/29/17
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anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> Most of that's probably going as overhead to the various people they
> hired and fired that aren't working on the show but are still credited
> and getting paid.
It's starting to sound like a Bialystock & Bloom production. Perhaps the
> Most of that's probably going as overhead to the various people they
> hired and fired that aren't working on the show but are still credited
> and getting paid.
title should be "Star Trek: The Last Milking".
Dimensional Traveler
Aug 29, 2017, 3:56:02 PM8/29/17
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--
Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation
instinct are running screaming.
anim8rfsk
Aug 29, 2017, 4:36:34 PM8/29/17
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anim8rfsk
Aug 29, 2017, 4:37:39 PM8/29/17
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In article <oo4gka$41c$1...@dont-email.me>,
the goal of the show was to destroy the legacies of Kirk and Picard?
Now he's trying to walk it back real hard.
Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
> On 8/29/2017 11:57 AM, Neill Massello wrote:
> > anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Most of that's probably going as overhead to the various people they
> >> hired and fired that aren't working on the show but are still credited
> >> and getting paid.
> >
> > It's starting to sound like a Bialystock & Bloom production. Perhaps the
> > title should be "Star Trek: The Last Milking".
> >
> Except it won't be the last milking.
Did you see that the one straight white male gave an interview saying
> On 8/29/2017 11:57 AM, Neill Massello wrote:
> > anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Most of that's probably going as overhead to the various people they
> >> hired and fired that aren't working on the show but are still credited
> >> and getting paid.
> >
> > It's starting to sound like a Bialystock & Bloom production. Perhaps the
> > title should be "Star Trek: The Last Milking".
> >
> Except it won't be the last milking.
the goal of the show was to destroy the legacies of Kirk and Picard?
Now he's trying to walk it back real hard.
Your Name
Aug 29, 2017, 5:13:34 PM8/29/17
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nothing worth watching here, move along.
Your Name
Aug 29, 2017, 5:14:02 PM8/29/17
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On 2017-08-29 14:05:15 +0000, Ian J. Ball said:
> On 2017-08-29 13:23:42 +0000, David said:
>>
>> http://variety.com/2017/tv/features/star-trek-discovery-preview-cbs-all-access-sonequa-martin-green-1202540540/
>>
>>
>> Can ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Help CBS Boldly Go Into a Streaming Future?
>> by Daniel Holloway
>>
>> Like a big sci-fi feature, “Discovery” hasn’t been cheap: The average
>> episode costs $8 million-$8.5 million.
>
> And so *not* worth "every penny"?...
Not even worth *A* penny. :-(
> On 2017-08-29 13:23:42 +0000, David said:
>>
>> http://variety.com/2017/tv/features/star-trek-discovery-preview-cbs-all-access-sonequa-martin-green-1202540540/
>>
>>
>> Can ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Help CBS Boldly Go Into a Streaming Future?
>> by Daniel Holloway
>>
>> Like a big sci-fi feature, “Discovery” hasn’t been cheap: The average
>> episode costs $8 million-$8.5 million.
>
> And so *not* worth "every penny"?...
Rhino
Aug 29, 2017, 5:35:07 PM8/29/17
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--
Rhino
Dimensional Traveler
Aug 29, 2017, 5:58:24 PM8/29/17
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On 8/29/2017 1:37 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> In article <oo4gka$41c$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> On 8/29/2017 11:57 AM, Neill Massello wrote:
>>> anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Most of that's probably going as overhead to the various people they
>>>> hired and fired that aren't working on the show but are still credited
>>>> and getting paid.
>>>
>>> It's starting to sound like a Bialystock & Bloom production. Perhaps the
>>> title should be "Star Trek: The Last Milking".
>>>
>> Except it won't be the last milking.
>
> Did you see that the one straight white male gave an interview saying
> the goal of the show was to destroy the legacies of Kirk and Picard?
> Now he's trying to walk it back real hard.
>
Are you fucking kidding me?
> In article <oo4gka$41c$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> On 8/29/2017 11:57 AM, Neill Massello wrote:
>>> anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Most of that's probably going as overhead to the various people they
>>>> hired and fired that aren't working on the show but are still credited
>>>> and getting paid.
>>>
>>> It's starting to sound like a Bialystock & Bloom production. Perhaps the
>>> title should be "Star Trek: The Last Milking".
>>>
>> Except it won't be the last milking.
>
> Did you see that the one straight white male gave an interview saying
> the goal of the show was to destroy the legacies of Kirk and Picard?
> Now he's trying to walk it back real hard.
>
BTR1701
Aug 29, 2017, 6:04:40 PM8/29/17
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In article <anim8rfsk-136B0...@news.easynews.com>,
Note: Must increase efforts to stop doing that.
anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <oo4gka$41c$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> > On 8/29/2017 11:57 AM, Neill Massello wrote:
> > > anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Most of that's probably going as overhead to the various people they
> > >> hired and fired that aren't working on the show but are still credited
> > >> and getting paid.
> > >
> > > It's starting to sound like a Bialystock & Bloom production. Perhaps the
> > > title should be "Star Trek: The Last Milking".
> > >
> > Except it won't be the last milking.
>
> Did you see that the one straight white male gave an interview saying
> the goal of the show was to destroy the legacies of Kirk and Picard?
> Now he's trying to walk it back real hard.
Well, that's what you get when you cast white males.
> In article <oo4gka$41c$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> > On 8/29/2017 11:57 AM, Neill Massello wrote:
> > > anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Most of that's probably going as overhead to the various people they
> > >> hired and fired that aren't working on the show but are still credited
> > >> and getting paid.
> > >
> > > It's starting to sound like a Bialystock & Bloom production. Perhaps the
> > > title should be "Star Trek: The Last Milking".
> > >
> > Except it won't be the last milking.
>
> Did you see that the one straight white male gave an interview saying
> the goal of the show was to destroy the legacies of Kirk and Picard?
> Now he's trying to walk it back real hard.
Note: Must increase efforts to stop doing that.
anim8rfsk
Aug 29, 2017, 6:53:53 PM8/29/17
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In article <oo4npo$rqa$1...@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
> On 8/29/2017 1:37 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> > In article <oo4gka$41c$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/29/2017 11:57 AM, Neill Massello wrote:
> >>> anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Most of that's probably going as overhead to the various people they
> >>>> hired and fired that aren't working on the show but are still credited
> >>>> and getting paid.
> >>>
> >>> It's starting to sound like a Bialystock & Bloom production. Perhaps the
> >>> title should be "Star Trek: The Last Milking".
> >>>
> >> Except it won't be the last milking.
> >
> > Did you see that the one straight white male gave an interview saying
> > the goal of the show was to destroy the legacies of Kirk and Picard?
> > Now he's trying to walk it back real hard.
> >
> Are you fucking kidding me?
No. He says he was "misquoted"
> On 8/29/2017 1:37 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> > In article <oo4gka$41c$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/29/2017 11:57 AM, Neill Massello wrote:
> >>> anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Most of that's probably going as overhead to the various people they
> >>>> hired and fired that aren't working on the show but are still credited
> >>>> and getting paid.
> >>>
> >>> It's starting to sound like a Bialystock & Bloom production. Perhaps the
> >>> title should be "Star Trek: The Last Milking".
> >>>
> >> Except it won't be the last milking.
> >
> > Did you see that the one straight white male gave an interview saying
> > the goal of the show was to destroy the legacies of Kirk and Picard?
> > Now he's trying to walk it back real hard.
> >
> Are you fucking kidding me?
Dimensional Traveler
Aug 29, 2017, 7:39:54 PM8/29/17
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but I at least thought it would be because of simple stupidity and
incompetence. Now you're telling me that they're even STUPIDER than we
thought and are actually deliberately trying to start a Trekor religious
war against themselves?!? How are these people even capable of respiration?
Jim G.
Aug 29, 2017, 7:49:17 PM8/29/17
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Dimensional Traveler sent the following on 08/29/2017 at 06:39 PM:
Anyone who has written Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who
has directed Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who has starred
on Trek in the past has done it badly. Thank goodness this latest
iteration is here, along with its unparalleled high level of competence,
intelligence and skill from top to bottom. They will save Trek. They
will show us how it should have been done all along. And we will all be
grateful.
But for now, they might want to add a few more executive producers. Just
to smooth the rough edges, and all that.
--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
“It smells like bad beer and worse choices. I'll make it work.” – Rosita
Bustillos, WYNONNA EARP
has directed Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who has starred
on Trek in the past has done it badly. Thank goodness this latest
iteration is here, along with its unparalleled high level of competence,
intelligence and skill from top to bottom. They will save Trek. They
will show us how it should have been done all along. And we will all be
grateful.
But for now, they might want to add a few more executive producers. Just
to smooth the rough edges, and all that.
--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
“It smells like bad beer and worse choices. I'll make it work.” – Rosita
Bustillos, WYNONNA EARP
Dimensional Traveler
Aug 29, 2017, 8:14:29 PM8/29/17
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multi-layered stupidity and contempt. Its actually making 'Oroville'
look better. Not good mind you, but sorta less bad. In a way that
makes my brain hurt so let's not think about that anymore.
Its a stupid bomb capable of destroying civilizations, let alone a TV
network.
Oh, and mounting a defense of it on Twitter. That always works and
leaves the defending party looking smarter. Can someone tell me, was
Isaacs born without a central nervous system or was it removed at some
later date?
(I'm sure I'll have more to say later. It takes time to properly take
in the full mind destroying size of this stupid.)
J. Clarke
Aug 29, 2017, 9:09:05 PM8/29/17
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 16:39:56 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
Trekor? Has there been _another_ schism in Star Trek fandom?
J. Clarke
Aug 29, 2017, 9:11:42 PM8/29/17
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they try to screw it up?
anim8rfsk
Aug 29, 2017, 9:14:25 PM8/29/17
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In article <oo4vou$jvj$1...@dont-email.me>,
I would have sampled Oroville until I got to Brannon Braga.
> Its a stupid bomb capable of destroying civilizations, let alone a TV
> network.
>
> Oh, and mounting a defense of it on Twitter. That always works and
> leaves the defending party looking smarter. Can someone tell me, was
> Isaacs born without a central nervous system or was it removed at some
> later date?
Doesn't this show have publicists and handlers? Isn't there somebody
screaming SHUT THE HELL UP AND GET OFF YOUR COMPUTER at this drooling
moron?
> (I'm sure I'll have more to say later. It takes time to properly take
> in the full mind destroying size of this stupid.)
It's amazing, isn't it? Even if he never said any of this stuff, and it
was a hatchet job done by a paper that never even interviewed him, he's
*still* made me hate him.
> Its a stupid bomb capable of destroying civilizations, let alone a TV
> network.
>
> Oh, and mounting a defense of it on Twitter. That always works and
> leaves the defending party looking smarter. Can someone tell me, was
> Isaacs born without a central nervous system or was it removed at some
> later date?
screaming SHUT THE HELL UP AND GET OFF YOUR COMPUTER at this drooling
moron?
> (I'm sure I'll have more to say later. It takes time to properly take
> in the full mind destroying size of this stupid.)
was a hatchet job done by a paper that never even interviewed him, he's
*still* made me hate him.
Your Name
Aug 29, 2017, 9:25:56 PM8/29/17
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On 2017-08-29 13:23:42 +0000, David said:
> http://variety.com/2017/tv/features/star-trek-discovery-preview-cbs-all-access-sonequa-martin-green-1202540540/
>
>
> Can ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Help CBS Boldly Go Into a Streaming Future?
> by Daniel Holloway
>
> Like a big sci-fi feature, “Discovery” hasn’t been cheap: The average
> episode costs $8 million-$8.5 million.
<snip>
>
>
> Can ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Help CBS Boldly Go Into a Streaming Future?
> by Daniel Holloway
>
> Like a big sci-fi feature, “Discovery” hasn’t been cheap: The average
> episode costs $8 million-$8.5 million.
Except $7.5million of that is being paid to Shatner to keep his mouth
shut about how crappy the new episodes are without him in them. ;-)
A Friend
Aug 29, 2017, 11:07:23 PM8/29/17
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In article <anim8rfsk-AD09B...@news.easynews.com>,
I'm not even sampling it. I watched the Comic-Con preview. Awful.
I thought these previews were supposed to make you want to at least try
watching a series. The only preview I saw that was worse was the
bloated, nonsensical one for STAR TREK: DISCOVERY.
I'm not even sampling it. I watched the Comic-Con preview. Awful.
I thought these previews were supposed to make you want to at least try
watching a series. The only preview I saw that was worse was the
bloated, nonsensical one for STAR TREK: DISCOVERY.
Dimensional Traveler
Aug 29, 2017, 11:53:45 PM8/29/17
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fan name(s). All I remember is first "Trekie" was bad, then it was
good, then it was bad again and "Trekor/Treker" was right and after that
I stopped giving a bowel movement about it.
Dimensional Traveler
Aug 29, 2017, 11:56:55 PM8/29/17
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On 8/29/2017 6:14 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> In article <oo4vou$jvj$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> On 8/29/2017 4:49 PM, Jim G. wrote:
>>> Dimensional Traveler sent the following on 08/29/2017 at 06:39 PM:
>>>> On 8/29/2017 3:53 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>> In article <oo4npo$rqa$1...@dont-email.me>,
> In article <oo4vou$jvj$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> On 8/29/2017 4:49 PM, Jim G. wrote:
>>> Dimensional Traveler sent the following on 08/29/2017 at 06:39 PM:
>>>> On 8/29/2017 3:53 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>> In article <oo4npo$rqa$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> Â Â Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/29/2017 1:37 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <oo4gka$41c$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/29/2017 1:37 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <oo4gka$41c$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> Â Â Â Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/29/2017 11:57 AM, Neill Massello wrote:
>>>>>>>>> anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Most of that's probably going as overhead to the various people
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> hired and fired that aren't working on the show but are still
>>>>>>>>>> credited
>>>>>>>>>> and getting paid.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's starting to sound like a Bialystock & Bloom production.
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the
>>>>>>>>> title should be "Star Trek: The Last Milking".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Except it won't be the last milking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you see that the one straight white male gave an interview saying
>>>>>>> the goal of the show was to destroy the legacies of Kirk and Picard?
>>>>>>> Now he's trying to walk it back real hard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you fucking kidding me?
>>>>>
>>>>> No. He says he was "misquoted"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/29/2017 11:57 AM, Neill Massello wrote:
>>>>>>>>> anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Most of that's probably going as overhead to the various people
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> hired and fired that aren't working on the show but are still
>>>>>>>>>> credited
>>>>>>>>>> and getting paid.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's starting to sound like a Bialystock & Bloom production.
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the
>>>>>>>>> title should be "Star Trek: The Last Milking".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Except it won't be the last milking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you see that the one straight white male gave an interview saying
>>>>>>> the goal of the show was to destroy the legacies of Kirk and Picard?
>>>>>>> Now he's trying to walk it back real hard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you fucking kidding me?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Its not like we didn't already know that's what they were going to do
>>>> but I at least thought it would be because of simple stupidity and
>>>> incompetence. Now you're telling me that they're even STUPIDER than we
>>>> Its not like we didn't already know that's what they were going to do
>>>> but I at least thought it would be because of simple stupidity and
>>>> thought and are actually deliberately trying to start a Trekor religious
>>>> war against themselves?!? How are these people even capable of
for firing his ass to help at all but I don't think they're going to let
him do ANYTHING, including going to the bathroom, without at least two
minders vetting everything he does now.
anim8rfsk
Aug 30, 2017, 1:33:39 AM8/30/17
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In article <oo5ck1$fnb$1...@dont-email.me>,
Okay. Trekkie was originally a derogatory term used for little kids
running around cons, and then extended to girls under legal age that
wanted to, shall we say, Grok Spock. TV Guide heard us saying "ick,
Trekkies" and thought how cute and reported that that was our name for
ourselves. Howls of protest did no good. Then a longer piece, I
believe done by PBS, was going to repeat the mistake. Fandom convinced
them they were wrong, but because the art cards were already made, truth
lost out. Finally some bastion of journalism said that they were also
going to report that Trekkies was what we called ourselves unless we
could come up with another name, and thus was born Trekkers.
Later iterations brought the twist that Trekkies liked TOS, and Trekkers
liked TNG.
running around cons, and then extended to girls under legal age that
wanted to, shall we say, Grok Spock. TV Guide heard us saying "ick,
Trekkies" and thought how cute and reported that that was our name for
ourselves. Howls of protest did no good. Then a longer piece, I
believe done by PBS, was going to repeat the mistake. Fandom convinced
them they were wrong, but because the art cards were already made, truth
lost out. Finally some bastion of journalism said that they were also
going to report that Trekkies was what we called ourselves unless we
could come up with another name, and thus was born Trekkers.
Later iterations brought the twist that Trekkies liked TOS, and Trekkers
liked TNG.
A Friend
Aug 30, 2017, 8:16:57 AM8/30/17
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In article <anim8rfsk-C3D2D...@news.easynews.com>,
At a con once (don't ask me), I defined Trekkie as a fan of the show
and Trekker as someone who'd waste an hour of your time explaining why
you should call them Trekkers and not Trekkies. This actually got a
big laugh and went over very well.
I also originated the collective "a tribble of Trekkies."
and Trekker as someone who'd waste an hour of your time explaining why
you should call them Trekkers and not Trekkies. This actually got a
big laugh and went over very well.
I also originated the collective "a tribble of Trekkies."
A Friend
Aug 30, 2017, 8:19:59 AM8/30/17
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In article <oo5cq0$gf9$1...@dont-email.me>, Dimensional Traveler
Of course there was going to be trouble. After all, it's Lucius Malfoy.
Skrill Queen
Aug 30, 2017, 8:52:04 AM8/30/17
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Rhino wrote
> I'm an angry old white man and a shut in.
Hopefully there will be a glorious onscreen slaughter of angry,
useless, old right wing white men.
Nothing politically incorrect about that.
> I'm an angry old white man and a shut in.
Hopefully there will be a glorious onscreen slaughter of angry,
useless, old right wing white men.
Nothing politically incorrect about that.
Mike Van Pelt
Aug 30, 2017, 8:11:58 PM8/30/17
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>In article <oo4vou$jvj$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> You know, at some level its actually a brilliant display of nuanced,
>> multi-layered stupidity and contempt. Its actually making 'Oroville'
>> look better. Not good mind you, but sorta less bad. In a way that
>> makes my brain hurt so let's not think about that anymore.
>
>I would have sampled Oroville until I got to Brannon Braga.
OK, I had already decided to give "Oroville" a miss; looks
> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> You know, at some level its actually a brilliant display of nuanced,
>> multi-layered stupidity and contempt. Its actually making 'Oroville'
>> look better. Not good mind you, but sorta less bad. In a way that
>> makes my brain hurt so let's not think about that anymore.
>
>I would have sampled Oroville until I got to Brannon Braga.
like "Brewster Rocket" with the IQ turned down to "sponge".
Now I'm quite sure I'll miss it. (Unless my aim improves.)
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Ubiquitous
Aug 30, 2017, 8:58:19 PM8/30/17
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anim...@cox.net wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> On 8/29/2017 4:49 PM, Jim G. wrote:
>> > Anyone who has written Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who
>> > has directed Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who has starred
>> > on Trek in the past has done it badly. Thank goodness this latest
>> > iteration is here, along with its unparalleled high level of competence,
>> > intelligence and skill from top to bottom. They will save Trek. They
>> > will show us how it should have been done all along. And we will all be
>> > grateful.
>> >
>> > But for now, they might want to add a few more executive producers. Just
>> > to smooth the rough edges, and all that.
>>
>> You know, at some level its actually a brilliant display of nuanced,
>> multi-layered stupidity and contempt. Its actually making 'Oroville'
>> look better. Not good mind you, but sorta less bad. In a way that
>> makes my brain hurt so let's not think about that anymore.
>
>I would have sampled Oroville until I got to Brannon Braga.
I was interested until I realized Orville is a rip off of a pilot the gang
> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> On 8/29/2017 4:49 PM, Jim G. wrote:
>> > Anyone who has written Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who
>> > has directed Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who has starred
>> > on Trek in the past has done it badly. Thank goodness this latest
>> > iteration is here, along with its unparalleled high level of competence,
>> > intelligence and skill from top to bottom. They will save Trek. They
>> > will show us how it should have been done all along. And we will all be
>> > grateful.
>> >
>> > But for now, they might want to add a few more executive producers. Just
>> > to smooth the rough edges, and all that.
>>
>> You know, at some level its actually a brilliant display of nuanced,
>> multi-layered stupidity and contempt. Its actually making 'Oroville'
>> look better. Not good mind you, but sorta less bad. In a way that
>> makes my brain hurt so let's not think about that anymore.
>
>I would have sampled Oroville until I got to Brannon Braga.
from IT'S ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA were proposing.
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Ubiquitous
Aug 30, 2017, 9:01:36 PM8/30/17
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In article <oo4u9m$gh6$1...@dont-email.me>, jimg...@geemail.com.invalid wrote:
>Anyone who has written Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who
>has directed Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who has starred
>on Trek in the past has done it badly. Thank goodness this latest
>iteration is here, along with its unparalleled high level of competence,
>intelligence and skill from top to bottom. They will save Trek. They
>will show us how it should have been done all along. And we will all be
>grateful.
Define: "Anyone", "in the past"
>Anyone who has written Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who
>has directed Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who has starred
>on Trek in the past has done it badly. Thank goodness this latest
>iteration is here, along with its unparalleled high level of competence,
>intelligence and skill from top to bottom. They will save Trek. They
>will show us how it should have been done all along. And we will all be
>grateful.
Ubiquitous
Aug 30, 2017, 9:02:29 PM8/30/17
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J. Clarke
Aug 30, 2017, 10:22:08 PM8/30/17
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 18:14:20 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net>
wrote:
>Doesn't this show have publicists and handlers? Isn't there somebody
>screaming SHUT THE HELL UP AND GET OFF YOUR COMPUTER at this drooling
>moron?
One could say the same of the Oval Office . . .
But apparently not.
wrote:
>Doesn't this show have publicists and handlers? Isn't there somebody
>screaming SHUT THE HELL UP AND GET OFF YOUR COMPUTER at this drooling
>moron?
But apparently not.
Jim G.
Aug 30, 2017, 11:06:29 PM8/30/17
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Ubiquitous sent the following on 08/30/2017 at 09:04 PM:
> In article <oo4u9m$gh6$1...@dont-email.me>, jimg...@geemail.com.invalid wrote:
>
>> Anyone who has written Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who
>> has directed Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who has starred
>> on Trek in the past has done it badly. Thank goodness this latest
>> iteration is here, along with its unparalleled high level of competence,
>> intelligence and skill from top to bottom. They will save Trek. They
>> will show us how it should have been done all along. And we will all be
>> grateful.
>
> Define: "Anyone", "in the past"
It's no use. Anyone who has defined "anyone" or "in the past" in the
>
>> Anyone who has written Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who
>> has directed Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who has starred
>> on Trek in the past has done it badly. Thank goodness this latest
>> iteration is here, along with its unparalleled high level of competence,
>> intelligence and skill from top to bottom. They will save Trek. They
>> will show us how it should have been done all along. And we will all be
>> grateful.
>
> Define: "Anyone", "in the past"
past has done it badly.
Ubiquitous
Aug 31, 2017, 4:08:08 AM8/31/17
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jimg...@geemail.com.invalid wrote:
>Ubiquitous sent the following on 08/30/2017 at 09:04 PM:
>Ubiquitous sent the following on 08/30/2017 at 09:04 PM:
>> jimg...@geemail.com.invalid wrote:
>>> Anyone who has written Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who
>>> has directed Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who has starred
>>> on Trek in the past has done it badly. Thank goodness this latest
>>> iteration is here, along with its unparalleled high level of competence,
>>> intelligence and skill from top to bottom. They will save Trek. They
>>> will show us how it should have been done all along. And we will all be
>>> grateful.
>>
>> Define: "Anyone", "in the past"
>
>It's no use. Anyone who has defined "anyone" or "in the past" in the
>past has done it badly.
Ha ha.
>>> Anyone who has written Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who
>>> has directed Trek in the past has done it badly. Anyone who has starred
>>> on Trek in the past has done it badly. Thank goodness this latest
>>> iteration is here, along with its unparalleled high level of competence,
>>> intelligence and skill from top to bottom. They will save Trek. They
>>> will show us how it should have been done all along. And we will all be
>>> grateful.
>>
>> Define: "Anyone", "in the past"
>
>It's no use. Anyone who has defined "anyone" or "in the past" in the
>past has done it badly.
There are some good writers and some good eps, but not many of them are in
the recent incarnations.
Roger Blake
Sep 2, 2017, 9:39:46 PM9/2/17
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On 2017-08-31, J Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One could say the same of the Oval Office . . .
> But apparently not.
You're too late, 0bama is long gone, and the Wicked Witch of the West
> One could say the same of the Oval Office . . .
> But apparently not.
was defeated. (Thank goodness.)
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