Futurama: 2/6 Dan T's comments - Amok Time spoof was funny
Dan Tropea
Trek spoof to probably one of the best episodes ever of the TOS series -
Amok Time.
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Well Zhoberg went through a time of life so to speak. He went a bit nuts
wanting to mate.
1) The gymnasium scene was a bit cute. I loved how Frye thought it was a
co-ed steam room only to discover that it wasn't. Leela's comment about
gene technology was cute. Poor Frye.
2) Amy sometimes i am not sure if she and Frye wouldn't make a perfect
couple. Both very naive and kind of trusting to others.
3) The beach scene was cute but i think it lasted a bit too long the
rejections that is. After two times i figured it out.
4) The homage to Cyrano was cute but very predictable. Frye telling
Zhoberg to ask how her day was was perfect. Zhoberg's reaction was also
good. But Frye is right that is a good start.
5) The fight - Clap-clap or something like that was incredible. Lets
see.
- The first two weapons were identical to the ones used on Amok Time.
- The leader would not stop the fight for tradition. Was 18 years
important? Didn't get the importance of that number.
- Frye was not interested in the girl but the girl wanted the fight and
ran off with someone else . Kind of like what Spock's betrothed did.
- Zhoberg cut Frye's shirt like Spock cut Kirk's except Zhoberg put his
initials.
- The national anthem was the exact same one used from Amok Time's fight
theme. I wonder how much was paid to use that music?
- Frye tried to stop by a speech but failed like Kirk failed.
Bender tried to make money off of it and encouraged Frye to take a fall.
6) So Edna ran off with the leader and they all died. Kind of sad and
useless.
Overall a very good spoof/homage to Star Trek's Amok Time. We also
learned more about Zhoberg.
Ben Mann
>
> - The leader would not stop the fight for tradition. Was 18 years
> important? Didn't get the importance of that number.
It's just, yknow, not a very long time for a barbaric alien tradition.
Ben Mann / buck...@concentric.net
me
All I could think of when Dr. Z went crazy with his male jelly -- or
whatever -- was an old episode of Rocko's Modern Life where Filbert went
crazy during mating season and had to go to the island of the turtles. I
don't know if both of those took it from somewhere else, but if not,
Futurama totally ripped off of RML. Of course, the plots diverged a lot in
many ways, but it was blatantly obvious to anybody who has seen that
particular episode of RML. But, of course, as I previously stated, I don't
know if this is a common device in television writing. I haven't seen it
anywhere else, which leads me to believe that this was not a creative device
at all on the part of the writers of Futurama.
Excuse the redundancies of my post... It's late and I should be working on
an essay... :)
Rubén 'watch Futurama' Gutiérrez
Dan Tropea <tro...@webtv.net> escribió en artículo
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> - The leader would not stop the fight for tradition. Was 18 years
> important? Didn't get the importance of that number.
>
Eric S.
>
>- Zhoberg cut Frye's shirt like Spock cut Kirk's except Zhoberg put his
>initials.
This is a somewhat less-than-obscure reference to Zorro.
Sean O'Flaherty
>- The leader would not stop the fight for tradition. Was 18 years
>important? Didn't get the importance of that number.
It's just suppose to seem very young for such a " sacred " tradition.
>- Zhoberg cut Frye's shirt like Spock cut Kirk's except Zhoberg put his
>initials.
It's also a Zorro reference.
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grosse
slowly and succinctly as possible:
It's Fry. Not Frye. It's Zoidberg. Not whatever the hell you called him.
There. I feel better. Carry on with your comments on various television
shows, since we all so love hearing, er, reading, what you think. Really.
Rubén 'watch Futurama' Gutiérrez <nospam.w...@nnyc.com.ar> wrote in
message news:01bf7116$29b35120$32e00dd1@moe-szyslak...
> > - The leader would not stop the fight for tradition. Was 18 years
> > important? Didn't get the importance of that number.
> >
> > - Frye was not interested in the girl but the girl wanted the fight and
> > ran off with someone else . Kind of like what Spock's betrothed did.
> >
> > - Zhoberg cut Frye's shirt like Spock cut Kirk's except Zhoberg put his
> > initials.
> >
grosse
grosse
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sn...@geocities.com (Eric S.) wrote:
> In article <5115-389...@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
tro...@webtv.net (Dan Tropea) wrote:
> >
his
> >initials.
>
>
Not in Don Trapeo's (I'm mangling his name as badly as he mangles the
names of the characters, over and over and OVER) world. In his world,
*everything* is a Star Trek reference. :-)
Andy K.
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Dan Tropea wrote in message
***SNIP*****
OK, am I the only one who got the joke with the Kegelcizer? Anyone else out
there been through Lamaze training? No one here at work seems to have
understood it...
Doug
PS For those who didn't understand it, Kegel exercises were encouraged by
the Lamaze trainers as a way to strengthen the, um, "lower muscles" (the
ones important for labor and delivery.) I thought it was hysterical, seeing
that woman on the Kegelcizer flinching and lifting that huge stack of
weights.
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>
>OK, am I the only one who got the joke with the Kegelcizer? Anyone else out
>there been through Lamaze training? No one here at work seems to have
>understood it...
I couldn't even try to get it, because my FOX affiliate airs the PA lottery
numbers during the 7 PM show, in a large yellow block that covers the
entire bottom 50% of the screen for at least 30 seconds. The screen isn't
even shrunk to fit above the numbers, it is just covered up. They happened
to come on at the worst possible time, as the crew was walking through the
gymnasium, blocking freeze frame gag after freeze frame gag from my view.
DAMN THIS 7PM TIME SLOT!
Larry and Jodi Solomon
> there been through Lamaze training? No one here at work seems to have
> understood it...
I was wondering if anybody else caught this one... it had me absolutely
ROFLMAO... had to stop and rewind to catch whatever came next. Nifty
bit of foreshadowing as well, considering what happens to Zoidberg's
people after mating... ;-)
>
> PS For those who didn't understand it, Kegel exercises were encouraged by
> the Lamaze trainers as a way to strengthen the, um, "lower muscles" (the
> ones important for labor and delivery.) I thought it was hysterical, seeing
> that woman on the Kegelcizer flinching and lifting that huge stack of
> weights.
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>
> Well this was one very clever and funny episode that was a great Star
> Trek spoof to probably one of the best episodes ever of the TOS series -
> Amok Time.
> - The national anthem was the exact same one used from Amok Time's fight
> theme. I wonder how much was paid to use that music?
All through the episode I was wondering *how* they were going to
include the Start Trek battle music, and I think they did a
*wonderful* job with how they actually incorporated it. Like
the rest of the show, they take it right up to the edge of
normalcy and then promptly jump over the line. Excellent!
Tim.
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>I tried to tell him, but he doesn't listen. Danny, I'm going to say this as
>slowly and succinctly as possible:
>
>It's Fry. Not Frye. It's Zoidberg. Not whatever the hell you called him.
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And the perverse pleasure thing. That too.
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Ben Mann <buck...@concentric.net> wrote:
>Dan Tropea wrote:
>>
>> - The leader would not stop the fight for tradition. Was 18 years
>> important? Didn't get the importance of that number.
>
The race dies out every generation upon reaching mating age; thus
their traditions only go back 18 years (or so).
-mm-
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jere7my tho?rpe
<Mark...@prodigy.net> wrote:
*All I could think of when Dr. Z went crazy with his male jelly -- or
*whatever -- was an old episode of Rocko's Modern Life where Filbert went
*crazy during mating season and had to go to the island of the turtles. I
*don't know if both of those took it from somewhere else, but if not,
*Futurama totally ripped off of RML.
Yeesh. To quote a little sock puppet named Handy, "Read a book!"
:)= Many lower animals (not lobsters and turtles in particular, but
their ilk) have a time of year when they go absolutely nuts for mating,
swarming down to the sea or taking to the air or whatnot, and in many
species the males die immediately after...er...the fun, and sometimes
the females as well. (Mayflies are probably the best example here.)
Clearly Futurama and Rocko were both drawing from Mother Nature, with a
nod to the Vulcan Pon Farr in Futurama's case. Saying that one ripped
off the other is like saying that anything featuring a hibernating bear
is a ripoff of Yogi -- some things come from observation of the Real
World.
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More likely *both* were doing a parody of the same thing. Namely, that
particular ST:TOS episode that's been mentioned about eighteen million
times in the various episode capsules so far.
> All I could think of when Dr. Z went crazy with his male jelly -- or
> whatever -- was an old episode of Rocko's Modern Life where Filbert went
> crazy during mating season and had to go to the island of the turtles. I
> don't know if both of those took it from somewhere else, but if not,
> Futurama totally ripped off of RML. Of course, the plots diverged a lot in
> many ways, but it was blatantly obvious to anybody who has seen that
> particular episode of RML. But, of course, as I previously stated, I don't
> know if this is a common device in television writing. I haven't seen it
> anywhere else, which leads me to believe that this was not a creative device
> at all on the part of the writers of Futurama.
> Excuse the redundancies of my post... It's late and I should be working on
> an essay... :)
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> The race dies out every generation upon reaching mating age; thus
> their traditions only go back 18 years (or so).
So Dr. Zoidberg is a teenager?
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I'll just kill two birds with one stone and try to defend myself.
Having never been a fan of Star Trek, I wasn't aware that the show was
referencing a particular episode of the series. Plus, in all the episode
capsules I glossed over, the main points comparisons were from the fight
scenes.
And second of all, to person who very rudely suggested I read a book... They
both demonstrated a particular place where the mating would take place. I
don't see lower creatures, as you have labeled them, flocking off to some
foreign island or planet. "Mating season" is very common phenomenon, but the
way that the two programs approached the subject (Filbert went crazy and
alienated his friends that weren't of his species, Dr. Z went crazy and
alienated his friends that weren't of his species; Filbert had to go to the
isle of the turtles, Dr. Z had to go to his native planet; both were
welcomed by men baring lei's and other such tropical memorabilia) were very
similar. I wasn't simply referring to the mating season phenomenon that the
two demonstrated, but actually the way that the two handled the subject.
Yeesh yourself.
Mark E. Mallett
Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>In article <87orb3$lun$1...@pyrite.mv.net>, m...@geezer.org wrote:
>
>>PS: usenet welcomes spelling flames.
>
>From "A Primer on How to Work With the Usenet Community", which is posted
>monthly to news.announce.newusers:
Thanks, I've seen it -)
BTW, posting of any useless correction is essentially the same as a
spelling flame - in principal and in spirit and in effect. This would
apply to quoting a FAQ in response to a whimsical remark that you
don't care for.
-mm-
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jere7my tho?rpe
<Mark...@prodigy.net> wrote:
*And second of all, to person who very rudely suggested I read a book...
*They both demonstrated a particular place where the mating would take place. I
*don't see lower creatures, as you have labeled them, flocking off to some
*foreign island or planet.
You'll note I put a smiley after the "Read a book!" line -- it's a
quote from "The Tick," meant to be amoosing. No offense intended. At
any rate, many critters _do_ return to specific spawning grounds to
spawn, traveling hundreds or thousands of miles to a little inlet or
crag where they were born. Salmon are probably the most famous,
swimming in from the ocean and up long rivers to spawn in a specific
spot (and, AFAIK, nobody has yet figured out quite how they find their
way back to the exact spot of their birth).
*I wasn't simply referring to the mating season phenomenon that the
*two demonstrated, but actually the way that the two handled the subject.
I think the "sentient aquatic life-form returns to his place of
birth for a mating frenzy" plot lends itself to some obvious
developments, and both Futurama and Rocko took similar routes. No need
to assume anything other than...er...parallel evolution. :)=
Ben
>-PPS: usenet hates emoticons.
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>In article <87r2op$368$1...@pyrite.mv.net>, m...@geezer.org wrote:
>
>>-PPS: usenet hates emoticons.
>
>What part of USENET have you been in? I haven't been in a single group
>that disliked them.
I guess you've never read alt.peeves, have you?
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fr...@fairfieldi.com wrote:
> >What part of USENET have you been in? I haven't been in a single
group
> >that disliked them.
>
> I guess you've never read alt.peeves, have you?
The folks in alt.peeves hate just about everything, but at least they're
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>-On Wed, 09 Feb 2000 21:47:40 -0600, late...@usa.net (Ben) wrote:
>-
>->In article <87r2op$368$1...@pyrite.mv.net>, m...@geezer.org wrote:
>->
>->>-PPS: usenet hates emoticons.
>->
>->What part of USENET have you been in? I haven't been in a single group
>->that disliked them.
>-
>-I guess you've never read alt.peeves, have you?
No sorry, but that's just one group.
If you want to see the warped conglomeration of groups I read and have
read, check out http://www.netins.net/showcase/benssite/faqs/
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Aaron Bergman
>In article <38a2d94e...@news.fairfieldi.com>, fr...@fairfieldi.com wrote:
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>>-On Wed, 09 Feb 2000 21:47:40 -0600, late...@usa.net (Ben) wrote:
>>-
>>->In article <87r2op$368$1...@pyrite.mv.net>, m...@geezer.org wrote:
>>->
>>->>-PPS: usenet hates emoticons.
>>->
>>->What part of USENET have you been in? I haven't been in a single group
>>->that disliked them.
>>-
>>-I guess you've never read alt.peeves, have you?
>
>No sorry, but that's just one group.
alt.folklore.urban makes two.
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Podkayne Fries wrote in message <38a2d94e...@news.fairfieldi.com>...
>On Wed, 09 Feb 2000 21:47:40 -0600, late...@usa.net (Ben) wrote:
>
>>In article <87r2op$368$1...@pyrite.mv.net>, m...@geezer.org wrote:
>>
>>
>>What part of USENET have you been in? I haven't been in a single group
>
>I guess you've never read alt.peeves, have you?
>
>
Or alt.folklore.urban.
I.Z>
Podkayne Fries
>
>The folks in alt.peeves hate just about everything,
No, peevers are just a trifle pickier than the average Joe. If everyone
were more particular, this world would be a better place. For one
thing, the people who invented AOL and WebTV would have been eliminated
as public menaces.
Perhaps you haven't read the FAQ.
>but at least they're literate in their hatred. Mostly.
>
The regular peevers are more literate than average. It's a fascinating
group.
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