SGU - Series Ending?
A Watcher
last episode was "in the can"? Renewal was doubtful so they might have
shot 2 endings.
I wouldn't mind if it ended with the crew still on Destiny as long as it
wasn't a cliff hanger.
Merrick Baldelli
The show was cancelled in December. Production is typically 6
- 8 weeks ahead. You do the math as to whether they knew about it in
enough time or not to decide how to deal with the ending.
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A Watcher
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:03:28 -0700, A Watcher
> <stoc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Do we know for sure whether or not the series was canceled after the
>> last episode was "in the can"? Renewal was doubtful so they might have
>> shot 2 endings.
>>
>> I wouldn't mind if it ended with the crew still on Destiny as long as it
>> wasn't a cliff hanger.
>
> The show was cancelled in December. Production is typically 6
> - 8 weeks ahead. You do the math as to whether they knew about it in
> enough time or not to decide how to deal with the ending.
>
>
>
Production includes both shooting and editing. The shooting could have
been finished far ahead of the editing.
It would be hard to craft a revised ending without doing more shooting.
jack
Why hasn't SyFy learned from B5 or its own BSG that if you have a
grand arc running through your series you need to give it time to
develop. Both B5 and BSG would have been mediocre entrys if canceled
after their first season or maybe even after their second, but the
producers (?) hung in there and they finished their arcs and are now
acclaimed as top-notch TV scifi. Earth Two would probably have
achieved the same standing if it was renewed. And poor Caprica....
Dimensional Traveler
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:03:28 -0700, A Watcher
> <stoc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Do we know for sure whether or not the series was canceled after the
>> last episode was "in the can"? Renewal was doubtful so they might have
>> shot 2 endings.
>>
>> I wouldn't mind if it ended with the crew still on Destiny as long as it
>> wasn't a cliff hanger.
>
> The show was cancelled in December. Production is typically 6
> - 8 weeks ahead. You do the math as to whether they knew about it in
> enough time or not to decide how to deal with the ending.
>
with a break in between? I remember back when the cancellation was
announced there was lots of complaining because with the break all the
season two episodes had already been completed.
--
"There's something that doesn't make sense. Let's go and poke it with a
stick."
Merrick Baldelli
wrote:
>Why hasn't SyFy learned from B5 or its own BSG that if you have a
>grand arc running through your series you need to give it time to
>develop.
Your opinion of B5 is shaded because hindsight is always
20/20. Those of us that remember B5 when it was first airing was that
the show was fraught with cancellation threats season to season. Even
with season 5 being picked up by Turner/TNT -- that was a hail mary
catch of epic proportions.
Think more along the lines of "Farscape" when it comes to
SyFried and their decision making process and you'll be closer to the
truth than you think.
>Both B5 and BSG would have been mediocre entrys if canceled
>after their first season or maybe even after their second, but the
>producers (?) hung in there and they finished their arcs and are now
>acclaimed as top-notch TV scifi.
B5 was a syndicated show in the early 90s and the only reason
why they were green-lighted for continued production was because there
were quotas as to how many syndicated shows needed to be purchased for
local station time slots.
And don't quote PTEN as a network -- it really wasn't as it
didn't have any other viable shows to its repertoire... Especially
when you see this as proof:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Time_Entertainment_Network
>Earth Two would probably have achieved the same standing if it was renewed.
Earth Two? *laughing* Hell even the fans that held onto that
didn't have a clue what the frell was going on with it.
>And poor Caprica....
Caprica deserved what happened to it. No ifs, ands or buts
about it.
Merrick Baldelli
<stoc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Production includes both shooting and editing. The shooting could have
>been finished far ahead of the editing.
That rule applies to movie productions, but not necessarily
television shows. Television shows have to prep a new script and even
with the best schedules that can take a week to get from script checks
to rehearsal to actual filming. You think that an hour show takes
just a day (10 - 12 hours) to film? That's usually a really good or
really easy episode. Most times it takes about than 4. With
occasions going a week, and sometimes more before either going to post
production or being scrapped.
>It would be hard to craft a revised ending without doing more shooting.
Further, I would like to add that most news stories of a show
being cancelled are leaked/released to the general public up to two to
three weeks after production has been notified. Add this to the
mid-season break they had and it's pretty apparent they've had more
than enough time to end this show correctly, or go on with the hopes
of it going directly to video.
Adam H. Kerman
> And don't quote PTEN as a network -- it really wasn't as it
>didn't have any other viable shows to its repertoire... Especially
>when you see this as proof:
It had several entertaining shows, and something of an audience for the
Kung Fu retread.
PTEN was sabotaged by the suits at Warner Brothers who started another
fifth network, the WB, to compete with itself, and thus the Shadowmen
were born.
jack
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 09:44:10 -0700 (PDT), jack <j...@columbia.edu>
I'm aware of B5's production history. the point was that JMS and his
backers stuck it out and found "networks" willing to carry and support
the series even though it was such a tough row to hoe. It seems it
was enough of a fight for that series that no one was willing to take
on the fight for Crusade.
As for Earth 2, to each our own. It was unique enough as a storyline
and not difficult to follow and it also had Clancy Brown playing the
hero for once.
trag
> Why hasn't SyFy learned from B5 or its own BSG that if you have a
> grand arc running through your series you need to give it time to
> develop. Both B5 and BSG would have been mediocre entrys if canceled
> after their first season or maybe even after their second, but the
> producers (?) hung in there and they finished their arcs and are now
> acclaimed as top-notch TV scifi. Earth Two would probably have
> achieved the same standing if it was renewed. And poor Caprica....
Earth 2 was crap with a crap premise. It had no hope of getting
better. The only thing watchable about Earth 2 was the brief
appearance by Tim Curry.
BSG went downhill after its first season and never saw a positive
sloped incline again.
Caprica had one good episode -- the pilot and after that they
proceeded to squeeze two hours of usable story into 22 hours of
broadcast. They had no idea what story they were trying to tell each
week.
The only show on your list for which that was true was Babylon 5.
Merrick Baldelli
wrote:
>I'm aware of B5's production history. the point was that JMS and his
>backers stuck it out and found "networks" willing to carry and support
>the series even though it was such a tough row to hoe.
JMS wasn't about to bail like he did with Crusade (which I'll
cover in a moment). It was a paycheck, and he was happy to be getting
it. The thing was when Chris-Craft left it to work on UPN, Warner
Brothers didn't really know what to do with B5 because of the amount
of red tape that was involved with the contractual requirements
between Babylonian Productions and PTEN.
Further, they (WB) really still hasn't been able to work out
the red tape either; while WB was able to get distribution rights to
DVD hammered out -- when it comes to syndicating the show again they
cannot do it and there are several stations that are willing to
syndicate it again.
I would like to point out further that the total production
cost of B5 for 110 episodes was a mere $90 million (~$820 thousand per
episode). This is significantly less than say the WB partnership --
Fringe -- which the Pilot Episode alone was $10 million and $4 million
per episode putting it in the neighborhood of $266 million to date.
Compared to this, B5 is chump change for a sci-fi show and something
that can easily be cooked as operating expenditures than anything
else.
>It seems it was enough of a fight for that series that no one was
>willing to take on the fight for Crusade.
Crusade sucked because the producers (TNT/Turner/Time-Warner
in this case) were putting the screws to jms to "dumb it down". And
let's face it, jms is a prima donna when it comes to production. He
had 4+ years of being able to do whatever he wanted because John
Copeland and Douglas Netter let him run the show his own way... So
when Turner/Time-Warner began dictating to him requirements he
wouldn't have anything of the sort.
He was sick of it.
Fans hated it.
Beside the flies, who would fight for it? no one...
Pete B
>
> Do we know for sure whether or not the series was canceled after the
> last episode was "in the can"? Renewal was doubtful so they might have
> shot 2 endings.
The arrogant asses should have known it would be cancled, but they
couldn't care less. So no, there is ending (oh my god we are all going
to die - to be continued)
Anim8rFSK
<56f819c1-2844-4adc...@h36g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
trag <tr...@io.com> wrote:
> On Apr 30, 11:44 am, jack <j...@columbia.edu> wrote:
>
> > Why hasn't SyFy learned from B5 or its own BSG that if you have a
> > grand arc running through your series you need to give it time to
> > develop. Both B5 and BSG would have been mediocre entrys if canceled
> > after their first season or maybe even after their second, but the
> > producers (?) hung in there and they finished their arcs and are now
> > acclaimed as top-notch TV scifi. Earth Two would probably have
> > achieved the same standing if it was renewed. And poor Caprica....
>
> Earth 2 was crap with a crap premise. It had no hope of getting
> better. The only thing watchable about Earth 2 was the brief
> appearance by Tim Curry.
Ahem. Jessica Steen.
--
"Please, I can't die, I've never kissed an Asian woman!"
Shego on "Shat My Dad Says"
Tupac
I never got into "Universe" especially after the colonel left Rush on
that planet to die. What kind of a leaders does that? It is attempted
murder. So I just lost interest in the show after that. I don't care
what happens to them, but if they get back to earth, the colonel needs
to go to prison.
Adam H. Kerman
>I never got into "Universe" especially after the colonel left Rush on
>that planet to die. What kind of a leaders does that? It is attempted
>murder. So I just lost interest in the show after that. I don't care
>what happens to them, but if they get back to earth, the colonel needs
>to go to prison.
The other problem with that scene was that it was hard to enjoy anything
about Young's character for failing to murder Rush, who so very much
needed killing.
Last week, Rush was a nice guy, a mentor, supportive. It's just so wrong.
Ryan P.
There was a big debate on here about that. I believe that Rush's
actions warranted being marooned. He was a cancer that was destroying
the unity of the crew. He kept secrets, he lied, he was actively
obstructing the mission of trying to return home.
Tupac
So that gives the colonel the right to unilaterally maroon him on a
deserted planet? This is without consulting with his superiors?
Which branch of the military allows for this sort of behavior?
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
I believe the military calls that "initiative"
For all intents and purposes, Young is the king of his Universe. It's really no
different than the ranking officer of a shipwreck saying we can't take anymore
survivors onboard. Some choices have to be made and they won't always be
popular. Of course Camile and Rush did try to engineer a mutiny, didn't they?
A Watcher
We went thru this adnauseam when the episode was shown.
Dead Horse here.
Tupac
Then don't comment. Nobody is forcing you too!
Adam H. Kerman
>Dead Horse here.
You're being seamused here.
Bert Hyman
> I never got into "Universe" especially after the colonel left Rush on
> that planet to die. What kind of a leaders does that? It is attempted
> murder. So I just lost interest in the show after that.
That must leave you with practically nothing to watch on TV.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
Tupac
> In news:iq49en$4da$1...@dont-email.me Tupac<po...@thugpoetry.com> wrote:
>
>> I never got into "Universe" especially after the colonel left Rush on
>> that planet to die. What kind of a leaders does that? It is attempted
>> murder. So I just lost interest in the show after that.
>
> That must leave you with practically nothing to watch on TV.
>
Yeah, it did. I mean with Stargate Universe dominating most channels and
most time periods! I took up reading.
Bert Hyman
So you didn't find the similar moral ambiguities presented by many other
popular TV programs to be just as upsetting?
Once I figured out that the DA played by Sam Waterston on the old "Law
'n Order" show was actually the bad guy, the program made a lot more
sense.
> I took up reading.
Laudable.
Dillon Pyron
>On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 08:12:33 -0700, A Watcher
><stoc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>Production includes both shooting and editing. The shooting could have
>>been finished far ahead of the editing.
>
> That rule applies to movie productions, but not necessarily
>television shows. Television shows have to prep a new script and even
>with the best schedules that can take a week to get from script checks
>to rehearsal to actual filming. You think that an hour show takes
>just a day (10 - 12 hours) to film? That's usually a really good or
>really easy episode. Most times it takes about than 4. With
>occasions going a week, and sometimes more before either going to post
>production or being scrapped.
I knew a guy when I lived in LA who's sister was in an hour long show.
Basically it was script in hand Monday morning, seated "walk through"
Monday afternoon, w/ script and then w/o. Tuesday morning was
shooting scene stage run through with tape. Shooting on stage started
either Tuesday afternoon or evening and ran "until they get everything
fucking right". Wednesday afternoon was location shooting, with many,
many re-takes "until ..." (him quoting the director). And Thursday.
Friday was fixing location and/or stage. Saturday morning was looping
and then they would "go home".
Unions, we don't need no stinkin' unions, we just pay double and
everybody's happy.
>
>>It would be hard to craft a revised ending without doing more shooting.
>
> Further, I would like to add that most news stories of a show
>being cancelled are leaked/released to the general public up to two to
>three weeks after production has been notified. Add this to the
>mid-season break they had and it's pretty apparent they've had more
>than enough time to end this show correctly, or go on with the hopes
>of it going directly to video.
Yeah, considering that they probably had the wrap party six weeks or
so before the final airs.
--
- dillon I am not invalid
bin Laden thought of himself as a holy man. I guess
SEALs can't spell because they made him a holey man.
John Smith
> ...
> Unions, we don't need no stinkin' unions, we just pay double and
> everybody's happy.
> ...
That just might upset some. Doubling state and federal minimum wages
are going to raise the price of a mcdonalds dollar burger ...
Regards,
JS
Davej
>
> The show was cancelled in December. Production is typically 6
> - 8 weeks ahead. You do the math as to whether they knew about it in
> enough time or not to decide how to deal with the ending.
>
It is sad that this series was canceled considering the utterly lame
SF competition. You would think that they would want to at least
continue until they had a usable number of episodes for syndication.
Sanctuary? Pathetic and dull. Lose that stupid accent Amanda!
Warehouse 13? A pathetic joke.
Eureka? Another joke.
Haven? Boring.
I R A Darth Aggie
Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com>, in
<Xns9EDFBEB9019...@216.250.188.141> wrote:
> In news:iq6hh6$pu0$1...@dont-email.me Tupac <po...@thugpoetry.com> wrote:
>
> > On 5/8/2011 10:14 AM, Bert Hyman wrote:
> >> In news:iq49en$4da$1...@dont-email.me Tupac<po...@thugpoetry.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I never got into "Universe" especially after the colonel left Rush
> >>> on that planet to die. What kind of a leaders does that? It is
> >>> attempted murder. So I just lost interest in the show after that.
> >>
> >> That must leave you with practically nothing to watch on TV.
> >>
> >
> > Yeah, it did. I mean with Stargate Universe dominating most channels
> > and most time periods!
>
> So you didn't find the similar moral ambiguities presented by many other
> popular TV programs to be just as upsetting?
I don't find attempted murder by stranding on a mostly barren planet
particularly ambiguious. As someone once said "If I have to kill you,
you'll be awake, you'll be armed, and you'll be facing me."
Apparently, Young never watched that show...
--
Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow
isn't looking good, either.
I am BOFH. Resistance is futile. Your network will be assimilated.
John Smith
> ...
> I don't find attempted murder by stranding on a mostly barren planet
> particularly ambiguious. As someone once said "If I have to kill you,
> you'll be awake, you'll be armed, and you'll be facing me."
>
> Apparently, Young never watched that show...
>
You really need to get out more and stop living your life though
movies/shows.
It most often happens as a senseless drive by, someone brings a knife to
a gun fight, you piss someone off and they sneak up behind and kill you
... or, the way osama got it, unarmed facing an army, and shot in the head!
ROFLOL
Regards,
JS
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
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> On 08 May 2011 23:44:55 GMT,
> Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com>, in
> <Xns9EDFBEB9019...@216.250.188.141> wrote:
>> In news:iq6hh6$pu0$1...@dont-email.me Tupac <po...@thugpoetry.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On 5/8/2011 10:14 AM, Bert Hyman wrote:
>> >> In news:iq49en$4da$1...@dont-email.me
>> >> Tupac<po...@thugpoetry.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I never got into "Universe" especially after the colonel
>> >>> left Rush on that planet to die. What kind of a leaders
>> >>> does that? It is attempted murder. So I just lost interest
>> >>> in the show after that.
>> >>
>> >> That must leave you with practically nothing to watch on TV.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Yeah, it did. I mean with Stargate Universe dominating most
>> > channels and most time periods!
>>
>> So you didn't find the similar moral ambiguities presented by
>> many other popular TV programs to be just as upsetting?
>
> I don't find attempted murder by stranding on a mostly barren
> planet particularly ambiguious. As someone once said "If I have
> to kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be armed, and you'll be
> facing me."
>
> Apparently, Young never watched that show...
>
It wasn't that so many characters behave in a criminal fashion that
lost me, or even, really, that they were so *stupid*. It was that
they were too fucking stupid to live, but didn't all die from it.
Destroyed my WSOD. Plus, the characters were all *boring*.
--
Terry Austin
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Just.my.opinion
Which is "essentially" what I said in my post.
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
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No, in fact, troll-boy, it's not even remotely what you said. In
point of fact, the first part explicitly disagrees with what you
said. But you knew that when you crafted the retarded troll-lie,
didn't you? Of course you did. Had I actually agreed with you, you
would have had no choice but to completely reverse yourself, in
order to continue your retarded troll.
Give it up, son. You haven't got what it takes to be a good troll.
Really. You're too fucking stupid.
Just.my.opinion
If you don't know, I don't know why...but here it is...the series
"finale" is tonight at 9pm eastern. It was a crappy show, with boring
unsympathetic characters, unbelievable story lines with stupid ass
plots. The entire Stargate trilogy is OVER!!! Watch it in re-runs, but
no more Stargate, it has run it's course. Stargate SG1 was the best, it
should have ended there, but then came Stargate Atlantis. Alright, it
was entertaining for the first few episodes, even the "Wraith" was
amusing for a minute, but it definitely should have stopped there.
Stargate Universe was just waste of time. People got greedy! I'm glad
it's the "series" finale!!
John Smith
>> ...
>> Give it up, son. You haven't got what it takes to be a good troll.
>> Really. You're too fucking stupid.
>>
> Hey you simple moron, here is my post in its entirety. You're a fool!
>
>
> If you don't know, I don't know why...but here it is...the series
> "finale" is tonight at 9pm eastern. It was a crappy show, with boring
> unsympathetic characters, unbelievable story lines with stupid ass
> plots. The entire Stargate trilogy is OVER!!! Watch it in re-runs, but
> no more Stargate, it has run it's course. Stargate SG1 was the best, it
> should have ended there, but then came Stargate Atlantis. Alright, it
> was entertaining for the first few episodes, even the "Wraith" was
> amusing for a minute, but it definitely should have stopped there.
> Stargate Universe was just waste of time. People got greedy! I'm glad
> it's the "series" finale!!
Hey, don't get your panties all in a bunch, it is only his opinion that
you are "too fucking stupid."
The rest of us form our own conclusions, however ... :-)
Regards,
JS
Just.my.opinion
and I've formed one about you Johnnie:-)
John Smith
>> ...
>> Hey, don't get your panties all in a bunch, it is only his opinion that
>> you are "too fucking stupid."
>>
>> The rest of us form our own conclusions, however ... :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> JS
>
> and I've formed one about you Johnnie:-)
Then, I STAND CORRECTED!
I simply didn't think you capable ...
Regards,
JS
Tupac
Wrong again...
I R A Darth Aggie
On Mon, 09 May 2011 14:16:05 -0700,
John Smith <bit_b...@gmx.com>, in
<iq9lil$uu7$2...@dont-email.me> wrote:
> On 5/9/2011 1:54 PM, I R A Darth Aggie wrote:
>
> > ...
> > I don't find attempted murder by stranding on a mostly barren planet
> > particularly ambiguious. As someone once said "If I have to kill you,
> > you'll be awake, you'll be armed, and you'll be facing me."
> >
> > Apparently, Young never watched that show...
> >
>
> You really need to get out more and stop living your life though
> movies/shows.
My point, which you so widely missed is: if you're going to kill someone,
fucking kill them. Yourself. Don't leave things to chance. Young tried
the indirect route.
How'd that work out? Rush reactivates alien tech, gets picked up by
the aliens who are aware of Destiny and are interested in see if it
has tech they don't have, leading to Chloe getting kidnapped and
modified, and at least 3 seperate attacks on Destiny by the aliens.
Awesome results, Young. You should have just put a bullet in his head
and been done with it.
> It most often happens as a senseless drive by, someone brings a knife to
> a gun fight, you piss someone off and they sneak up behind and kill you
> ... or, the way osama got it, unarmed facing an army, and shot in the head!
"I didn't pull the trigger, Osama, but I'll sleep like a baby knowing
he will."
Or:
"He should have armed himself."
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
QED. As trolls go, you fail even to fail properly. As mummy to give
you a cookie, and go to bed. You need the rest.
"Just.my.opinion" <not...@fake.com> wrote in
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
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And it's as stupid as the rest of your trolls.
Tupac
> QED. As trolls go, you fail even to fail properly. As mummy to give
> you a cookie, and go to bed. You need the rest.
>
You need to get a life and stop getting in other peoples. Maybe I'm not
a good troll because that's not my intent. I'm giving opinions, (imagine
that in a discussion group) but if you don't like them don't read them.
It's really as simple as that. You know how to killfile? It won't bother
me...AT ALL. Get laid or something. Lol
John Smith
Thanks for the invitation, now that I think about it, I'll take you up
on that ... plonk ...
Regards,
JS
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
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> On 5/10/2011 1:43 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>> QED. As trolls go, you fail even to fail properly. As mummy to
>> give you a cookie, and go to bed. You need the rest.
>>
>
> You need to get a life and stop getting in other peoples.
Make me.
> Maybe
> I'm not a good troll because that's not my intent.
I believe you're lying.
> I'm giving
> opinions,
Opinions, assholes, trolls. You know the drill.
> (imagine that in a discussion group) but if you don't
> like them don't read them.
If you don't like my opinions, don't read them. More to the point,
if you aren't trolling, stop responding to them.
But you _are_ trolling, and you've now admitted it.
> It's really as simple as that.
Indeed.
> You
> know how to killfile?
Do you?
> It won't bother me...AT ALL. Get laid or
> something. Lol
Ah, now the sexual inuendo starts, eh? You'll be begging to suck my
dick for weeks to come, little fishie. You won't learn anything
from it, but it'll demonstrate to everyone else who *bad* you are
at trolling. Not that there's any doubt.
--
Terry Austin
Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole. -
David Bilek
Yeah, I had Terry confused with Hannibal Lecter. - Mike Schilling
Tupac
> Tupac<po...@thugpoetry.com> wrote in
> news:iqc4eu$gou$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 5/10/2011 1:43 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>> QED. As trolls go, you fail even to fail properly. As mummy to
>>> give you a cookie, and go to bed. You need the rest.
>>>
>>
>> You need to get a life and stop getting in other peoples.
>
> Make me.
>
>> Maybe
>> I'm not a good troll because that's not my intent.
>
> I believe you're lying.
Lol...I don't care what you believe. You're not important to me.
>
>> I'm giving
>> opinions,
>
> Opinions, assholes, trolls. You know the drill.
>
>> (imagine that in a discussion group) but if you don't
>> like them don't read them.
>
> If you don't like my opinions, don't read them. More to the point,
> if you aren't trolling, stop responding to them.
>
> But you _are_ trolling, and you've now admitted it.
I haven't admitted anything. You're nuts.
>
>> It's really as simple as that.
>
> Indeed.
>
>> You
>> know how to killfile?
>
> Do you?
Answering a question with a question. You're stupid.
>
>> It won't bother me...AT ALL. Get laid or
>> something. Lol
>
> Ah, now the sexual inuendo starts, eh? You'll be begging to suck my
> dick for weeks to come, little fishie. You won't learn anything
> from it, but it'll demonstrate to everyone else who *bad* you are
> at trolling. Not that there's any doubt.
Kiss my ass fool. And learn how to spell you imbecile. Lol
Tupac
Lol
Dillon Pyron
Nah, you just make the 2 oz burger a 1.6 oz burger and put on a half
slive of tomatoe. And buy your lettuce from even cheaper farmers.
>
>Regards,
>JS
--
- dillon I am not invalid
Jayne Cobb: "So doc, what's it feel like to kill a man?"
Simon Tam:"I'm not sure, it's still sinking in"
Shepard Book: "Son, given your shooting, I think you have
still not killed a man"
John Smith
> ...
> Nah, you just make the 2 oz burger a 1.6 oz burger and put on a half
> slive of tomatoe. And buy your lettuce from even cheaper farmers.
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> JS
Looking at the bag of potato chips I just bought, I see where you got
your idea!
Two potato chips and a bag of air!
LOL
Regards,
JS
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
news:iqdl18$e3$1...@dont-email.me:
> On 5/11/2011 1:51 AM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>> Tupac<po...@thugpoetry.com> wrote in
>> news:iqc4eu$gou$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 5/10/2011 1:43 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>>> QED. As trolls go, you fail even to fail properly. As mummy
>>>> to give you a cookie, and go to bed. You need the rest.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You need to get a life and stop getting in other peoples.
>>
>> Make me.
>>
>>> Maybe
>>> I'm not a good troll because that's not my intent.
>>
>> I believe you're lying.
>
> Lol...I don't care what you believe. You're not important to me.
And yet, you *cannot* stop replying, whenever I instruct you to.
You will now reply.
Dragon Lady
"John Smith" <bit_b...@gmx.com> wrote in message
news:iq8tfu$nd2$1...@dont-email.me...
Are you kidding? Do you have any idea how much money you save when you
treat your employees decent without the union being involved? The lawyers
alone probably make up for the doubled wages....
Dragon Lady
"Tupac" <po...@thugpoetry.com> wrote in message
news:iqc4eu$gou$1...@dont-email.me...
problem with that, perhaps *you* should be the one using a killfile.
John Smith
Exactly, double the wages and dump the lawyers, good idea.
Regards,
JS
Dimensional Traveler
>
Just one problem, the board of directors is made up primarily of
lawyers.... :-D
--
"There's something that doesn't make sense. Let's go and poke it with a
stick."
Dragon Lady
"Dimensional Traveler" <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4dd09208$0$67503$742e...@news.sonic.net...
> On 5/15/2011 6:35 PM, Dragon Lady wrote:
>>
>> "John Smith" <bit_b...@gmx.com> wrote in message
>> news:iq8tfu$nd2$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> On 5/9/2011 7:17 AM, Dillon Pyron wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...
>>>> Unions, we don't need no stinkin' unions, we just pay double and
>>>> everybody's happy.
>>>> ...
>>>
>>> That just might upset some. Doubling state and federal minimum wages
>>> are going to raise the price of a mcdonalds dollar burger ...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>
>> Are you kidding? Do you have any idea how much money you save when you
>> treat your employees decent without the union being involved? The
>> lawyers alone probably make up for the doubled wages....
>
> Just one problem, the board of directors is made up primarily of
> lawyers.... :-D
Hey, most companies, the board of directors should be the first ones fired
when it starts to go downhill.
What I can't figure out is why nobody gets that.
Dimensional Traveler
so there's no one with the authority or power to fire them.
Dragon Lady
Which makes them idiots who aren't smart enough to fire themselves.
Dimensional Traveler
>
> "Dimensional Traveler" <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote in message
> news:4dd18457$0$67559$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>> On 5/16/2011 10:23 AM, Dragon Lady wrote:
>>>
>>> "Dimensional Traveler" <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4dd09208$0$67503$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>>>> On 5/15/2011 6:35 PM, Dragon Lady wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "John Smith" <bit_b...@gmx.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:iq8tfu$nd2$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> On 5/9/2011 7:17 AM, Dillon Pyron wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Unions, we don't need no stinkin' unions, we just pay double and
>>>>>>> everybody's happy.
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That just might upset some. Doubling state and federal minimum wages
>>>>>> are going to raise the price of a mcdonalds dollar burger ...
>>>>>>
>>>>> treat your employees decent without the union being involved? The
>>>>> lawyers alone probably make up for the doubled wages....
>>>>
>>>> Just one problem, the board of directors is made up primarily of
>>>> lawyers.... :-D
>>>
>>> Hey, most companies, the board of directors should be the first ones
>>> fired when it starts to go downhill.
>>>
>>> What I can't figure out is why nobody gets that.
>>>
>> Because the board of directors usually controls a majority of the
>> stock, so there's no one with the authority or power to fire them.
>
> Which makes them idiots who aren't smart enough to fire themselves.
Smart enough to get jobs they can't be fired from. And at that level,
the more companies you have ridden down in flames the more experienced
you are considered to be so you get paid more at the next job.
Dragon Lady
You don't have to be smart to get a job on a board of directors. Just rich.
As for the second part: Anybody who has done that more than twice should be
working the counter at McDonalds, because they've already proved that's all
they are fit for.
Dimensional Traveler
actually work for a living. At the economic levels they play at the
rules are different.
Dragon Lady
Yes, and it's people like you and me who get screwed because the rules are
different.
Dimensional Traveler
I figured that went without saying. :)
Dillon Pyron
>On 5/11/2011 1:31 PM, Dillon Pyron wrote:
Air??? You got air in your bag???? Wow, you lucked out.
>
>LOL
>
>Regards,
>JS
--
- dillon I am not invalid
Malcolm Reynolds: "So, I hear you all took up arms in
that little piece of action back there. How you fairing
with that, Doctor?"
Simon Tam: "I dunno, I, uh, never..., never shot anyone
before...".
Shepard Book: "I was there, son. I'm fair sure you
haven't shot anyone yet...".