Babylon 5 reboot in the works, with JMS!

[Peter Trei]

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/babylon-5-reboot-the-cw-j-michael-straczynski-1235075236/

A “Babylon 5” reboot is in development at The CW, Variety has learned.

Original series creator J. Michael Straczynski is onboard to write the project. He will also executive producer under his Studio JMS banner. Warner Bros. Television, which produced the original series, will produce the reboot.

The new iteration of the sci-fi series is described as a “from-the-ground-up reboot.”

[Your Name]

The original was b-o-r-i-n-g garbage, so any new version will be
garbage too ... unless they do a 'Battlestar Galactica' and make it
completely different and barely recognisable ... oh, wait, it is a
Hollyweird "reboot", so that is almost a foregone conclusion.

[Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha]

Your Name <Your...@YourISP.com> wrote in
news:sj571v$1tpo$1...@gioia.aioe.org:

> On 2021-09-30 19:51:52 +0000, Peter Trei said:
>>
>> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/babylon-5-reboot-the-cw-j-micha
>> el-straczynski-1235075236/
>>
>>
>> A "Babylon 5" reboot is in development at The CW, Variety has
>> learned.
>>
>> Original series creator J. Michael Straczynski is onboard to
>> write the project. He will also executive producer under his
>> Studio JMS banner. Warner Bros. Television, which produced the
>> original series, will produce the reboot.
>>
>> The new iteration of the sci-fi series is described as a
>> "from-the-ground-up reboot."
>
> The original was b-o-r-i-n-g garbage,

I never got into myself, but you and I are the freaks.

> so any new version will be
> garbage too ... unless they do a 'Battlestar Galactica' and make
> it completely different and barely recognisable ... oh, wait, it
> is a Hollyweird "reboot", so that is almost a foregone
> conclusion.
>

Probably less so, since the original creator is in charge and
generally has a lot of favor from the studios (because has a
reputation for delivering on time and under budget).

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

[Dimensional Traveler]

On 9/30/2021 2:27 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
> Your Name <Your...@YourISP.com> wrote in
> news:sj571v$1tpo$1...@gioia.aioe.org:
>
>> On 2021-09-30 19:51:52 +0000, Peter Trei said:
>>>
>>> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/babylon-5-reboot-the-cw-j-micha
>>> el-straczynski-1235075236/
>>>
>>>
>>> A "Babylon 5" reboot is in development at The CW, Variety has
>>> learned.
>>>
>>> Original series creator J. Michael Straczynski is onboard to
>>> write the project. He will also executive producer under his
>>> Studio JMS banner. Warner Bros. Television, which produced the
>>> original series, will produce the reboot.
>>>
>>> The new iteration of the sci-fi series is described as a
>>> "from-the-ground-up reboot."
>>
>> The original was b-o-r-i-n-g garbage,
>
> I never got into myself, but you and I are the freaks.
>
>> so any new version will be
>> garbage too ... unless they do a 'Battlestar Galactica' and make
>> it completely different and barely recognisable ... oh, wait, it
>> is a Hollyweird "reboot", so that is almost a foregone
>> conclusion.
>>
> Probably less so, since the original creator is in charge and
> generally has a lot of favor from the studios (because has a
> reputation for delivering on time and under budget).
>

And the actors who worked on the original B5 loved working for him
because he had everything so well planned out that they DIDN'T have to
work 12+ hour days and got to have lives outside working on the show.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

[Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha]

Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote in
news:sj5mki$7ik$2...@dont-email.me:

He even managed to pull off "I'm not going to read about my show on
the internet because it can cause problems" without pissing off the
fans.

I just wish his ideas held more appeal for me.

[Winston]

Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> writes:
> I just wish his ideas held more appeal for me.

Consider checking out the AWA Studios (comics company) titles
_The Resistance_,
_The Resistance: Uprising_,
_Moths_, and
_Telepaths_.
They're all 6 issue limited series (the latter two still in progress)
written by JMS. I'm enjoying them a lot.

Telepaths appears to be separate, but the first 3 titles are set in a
universe where there's been a "Great Death" -- a plague that kills 95%
of the people who get infected. The 5% that don't die ("reborns")
(numbering in the millions) optionally get powers: some powers are
trivial, some major. Activating one's powers is (most of the time), a
conscious decision. The catches:

1) you are guaranteed to die six months after your powers activate,
and
2) no one knows what power they'll get until it's activated.

So, as Moths asks, will you choose 6 months of life with whatever power
you discover you get (which could be something amazing), or live a
normal life for another 60 years (or whatever), never knowing what might
have been and what you might have accomplished? The former is obviously
a very risky choice.

Minor spoiler: We learn early on that the Great Death infection stopped
instantaneously, worldwide, even in labs studying samples of it.
Governments, health care facilities, researchers, and the like are happy
it stopped, but can't explain why. The readers learn that "why" is
because one of the reborns halted its spread (made it quiescent).
S/he will only live for six months, though ... :-)

I remember some years ago JMS announcing he was quitting comics, so I
was surprised to discover he was writing some again. IMHO, he (at least
some times) writes really good stories. Just finished Moths #4 and was
bummed to see that Moths #5 won't be out for another 4 weeks. :( :)
-WBE

[T987654321]

Fantastic series up till the end of the Shadow War then it fell of a cliff. Hope they ignore everything in the last season.

[Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha]

Winston <w...@UBEBLOCK.psr.com.invalid> wrote in
news:ydsfxkbr...@UBEblock.psr.com:

> Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> writes:
>> I just wish his ideas held more appeal for me.
>
> Consider checking out the AWA Studios (comics company) titles

Comics, as a medium, hold little interest for me. It doesn't lend
itself well to the sort of recreational reading I prefer. There may
be exceptions, but I'm unlikely to ever find any because there's
plenty to read that I know I'll enjoy.

And nothing that you describe interests me at all.

[Mike Van Pelt]

In article <a503db79-ceb0-47fa...@googlegroups.com>,

Peter Trei <pete...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/babylon-5-reboot-the-cw-j-michael-straczynski-1235075236/
>
>A Babylon 5 reboot is in development at The CW, Variety has learned.

My first reaction was a sinking feeling, and saying "Why!??!"

But it sounds like JMS is heavily involved.

My concern is, is CW going to give him a free hand, or are
they meddle it to death the way Fox (?) did to "Crusade".
Does he have "You can't continue it without me" creative
control, or can they kick him off and make Babylon 90210
out of it.

Part of the fun of Babylon 5 was slowly figuring out what was
really going on. But then, knowing what I do of JMS, "what's
really going on" is likely very different in this version, and
if you're expecting the old WRGO, you're in for a shock.

I really wish this were JMS's long-promised treatment of
the Lensman saga, but I'll certainly give this a watch.

Unless it turns out to be Babylon 90210.

--
Mike Van Pelt | "I don't advise it unless you're nuts."
mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding out Hurricane
KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach in Galveston

[Your Name]

On 2021-10-01 17:26:06 +0000, T987654321 said:
>
> Fantastic series up till the end of the Shadow War then it fell of a
> cliff. Hope they ignore everything in the last season.

It's a "from scratch" "reboot" not a continuation, so it will be
ignoring *everything* from the previous show.

[Dimensional Traveler]

On 10/1/2021 10:34 AM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
> In article <a503db79-ceb0-47fa...@googlegroups.com>,
> Peter Trei <pete...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/babylon-5-reboot-the-cw-j-michael-straczynski-1235075236/
>>
>> A Babylon 5 reboot is in development at The CW, Variety has learned.
>
> My first reaction was a sinking feeling, and saying "Why!??!"
>
> But it sounds like JMS is heavily involved.
>
> My concern is, is CW going to give him a free hand, or are
> they meddle it to death the way Fox (?)

TNT

> did to "Crusade".
> Does he have "You can't continue it without me" creative
> control, or can they kick him off and make Babylon 90210
> out of it.
>
> Part of the fun of Babylon 5 was slowly figuring out what was
> really going on. But then, knowing what I do of JMS, "what's
> really going on" is likely very different in this version, and
> if you're expecting the old WRGO, you're in for a shock.
>
> I really wish this were JMS's long-promised treatment of
> the Lensman saga, but I'll certainly give this a watch.
>
> Unless it turns out to be Babylon 90210.
>


--

[Dimensional Traveler]

It occurs to me that the original was on the cutting edge of TV CGI at
the time but they still couldn't do or do well some things JMS would
have liked to have done. A lot has changed in computer tech in 25 years....

[Your Name]

On 2021-10-02 00:14:01 +0000, Dimensional Traveler said:
> On 10/1/2021 2:05 PM, Your Name wrote:
>> On 2021-10-01 17:26:06 +0000, T987654321 said:
>>>
>>> Fantastic series up till the end of the Shadow War then it fell of a
>>> cliff.  Hope they ignore everything in the last season.
>>
>> It's a "from scratch" "reboot" not a continuation, so it will be
>> ignoring *everything* from the previous show.
>
> It occurs to me that the original was on the cutting edge of TV CGI at
> the time but they still couldn't do or do well some things JMS would
> have liked to have done.

Yep. The original show's CGI effects were done on a standard Commodore
Amiga computer (albeit the high-end version with high-end Toaster
graphics card and software), which was far cheaper than doing proper
movie-quality effects would have cost them.

> A lot has changed in computer tech in 25 years....

The closest you get to the relatively cheap Amiga-style graphics
computer these days is probably a games console or Windows/Linux PC.

[Brian McGuinness]

Babylon 5 is my favorite television series. I have the whole thing on DVD and rewatch it from time to time. The show has its flaws, but the writing is much more sophisticated, with more interesting character development, than in other shows. The series manages to be realistically "dark and gritty" without being relentlessly gloomy and without making the characters total assholes that the audience can't sympathize with, two major flaws that ruined the Galactica reboot for me. Even in the darkest times, the characters don't lose hope. I didn't find the series the least bit boring; there was plenty of action, and it was interesting to see the background story gradually unfold. There were exciting revelations from time to time that really invoked a sense of wonder.

I see no need for a B5 reboot. Moreover, anything made in the current era is likely to be filled with asinine political propaganda at the expense of storytelling. So I am opposed to the idea of a reboot. Enough harm has been done to the Star Trek, Star Wars, and Doctor Who franchises already. I don't want to see this happen to Babylon 5.

If JMS is going to reboot anything, he should reboot Crusade and let us see the rest of that story.

Alternatively, he could explore the origins of the Shadow War, or the future of the Interstellar Alliance. Another possibility would be to create more Lost Tales. There's plenty of room in the B5 universe for new stories.

In any case, I would wait a few years until Hollywood outgrows its current obsession with political correctness before starting a show.

--- Brian

[Dex]

On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 19:09:30 -0700 (PDT)
Brian McGuinness <b.mcgui...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Babylon 5 is my favorite television series. I have the whole thing
> on DVD and rewatch it from time to time. The show has its flaws, but
> the writing is much more sophisticated, with more interesting
> character development, than in other shows. The series manages to be
> realistically "dark and gritty" without being relentlessly gloomy and
> without making the characters total assholes that the audience can't
> sympathize with, two major flaws that ruined the Galactica reboot for
> me. Even in the darkest times, the characters don't lose hope. I
> didn't find the series the least bit boring; there was plenty of
> action, and it was interesting to see the background story gradually
> unfold. There were exciting revelations from time to time that really
> invoked a sense of wonder.
>
> I see no need for a B5 reboot. Moreover, anything made in the
> current era is likely to be filled with asinine political propaganda
> at the expense of storytelling. So I am opposed to the idea of a
> reboot. Enough harm has been done to the Star Trek, Star Wars, and
> Doctor Who franchises already. I don't want to see this happen to
> Babylon 5.
>

Female captain in season 5?

How about a female Captain in Star Trek? That happened in 1995. Or
even, shock horror, a Black captain. Chakotay and his Native
American culture. A black woman, Russian and Asian on
the bridge in the original series.

That's what Startrek has been about since the 60s, It's Gene
Roddenberry's vision of the future.

> If JMS is going to reboot anything, he should reboot Crusade and let
> us see the rest of that story.
>
> Alternatively, he could explore the origins of the Shadow War, or the
> future of the Interstellar Alliance. Another possibility would be to
> create more Lost Tales. There's plenty of room in the B5 universe for
> new stories.
>
> In any case, I would wait a few years until Hollywood outgrows its
> current obsession with political correctness before starting a show.
>

Don't watch JMS and the Wachowski sisters Sense8, you'll pass out with
all the PC.

[Your Name]

There's a massive difference between an original show casting different
genders / races, and an idiotic "reboot" that insists on gender /
race-swapping (and crowing about doing it) established characters
simply to appease the "Politically Correct' whiners and tick off studio
quotas.

[Dex]

You think Nichelle Nichols got the part because of her acting skills?
She was there because she was black and Roddenberry wanted to show that
it didnt matter in the future. Sulu when Pearl Harbor was
fresh in the minds of Americans and Chekov while the Cold War was going
on.

Hate to think what dads and granddads thought when they saw their kids
watching a interracial kiss between Kirk and Uhura.

That was the PC of the 1960s

[The Last Doctor]

On 25/10/2021 22:05, Your Name wrote:
>
> There's a massive difference between an original show casting different
> genders / races, and an idiotic "reboot" that insists on gender /
> race-swapping (and crowing about doing it) established characters simply
> to appease the "Politically Correct' whiners and tick off studio quotas.

The thing about a reboot is - it's a reboot. These aren't "established
characters", what you have is a set of templates that you can play with
and change in order to engage the audience you want and to tell the
stories you want to tell. And sometimes that will involve changes of
gender, and it definitively should involve changes of race and WILL, if
you have an open casting process and pick the best actor for the role.
Imitating the original characters, keeping them in the same ethnic,
social and mental positions, and telling the same stories, isn't a
reboot - it's a continuation by other means.

And telling stories and having "new" characters that a greater
demographic finds relatable isn't "ticking off studio quotas" - it's
reaching out to a larger potential audience.

The crowing about it is, indeed, dumb and needs to go away - but half
the time that's not what's happening. The studio just let everyone know
who's been cast - then has to get defensive when reactionary dinosaurs
go up in arms about it.

I WANT sci-fi that women enjoy watching as well as men, where boys and
girls; white, black, asian, and latino; gay and straight, bisexual,
asexual, trans and non-binary; all have role models they can relate to.
Not all in every show, not all in starring roles - but there. Why the
hell not?


--
There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible
things. Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

[Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha]

The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote in
news:sl8clu$dgo$1...@dont-email.me:

> On 25/10/2021 22:05, Your Name wrote:
>>
>> There's a massive difference between an original show casting
>> different genders / races, and an idiotic "reboot" that insists
>> on gender / race-swapping (and crowing about doing it)
>> established characters simply to appease the "Politically
>> Correct' whiners and tick off studio quotas.
>
> The thing about a reboot is - it's a reboot. These aren't
> "established characters", what you have is a set of templates
> that you can play with and change in order to engage the
> audience you want and to tell the stories you want to tell. And
> sometimes that will involve changes of gender, and it
> definitively should involve changes of race and WILL, if you
> have an open casting process and pick the best actor for the
> role. Imitating the original characters, keeping them in the
> same ethnic, social and mental positions, and telling the same
> stories, isn't a reboot - it's a continuation by other means.

In this case, "reboot" means "I have different stories to tell, so of
course the characters will change."

>
> And telling stories and having "new" characters that a greater
> demographic finds relatable isn't "ticking off studio quotas" -
> it's reaching out to a larger potential audience.

You say that like they're different things. Ticking of studio quotas
*is* reaching out to a larger potential audience, or so the studios
believe. That doesn't make it any less ticking off studio quotas.

[The Last Doctor]

Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote in
> news:sl8clu$dgo$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 25/10/2021 22:05, Your Name wrote:
>>>
>>> There's a massive difference between an original show casting
>>> different genders / races, and an idiotic "reboot" that insists
>>> on gender / race-swapping (and crowing about doing it)
>>> established characters simply to appease the "Politically
>>> Correct' whiners and tick off studio quotas.
>>
>> The thing about a reboot is - it's a reboot. These aren't
>> "established characters", what you have is a set of templates
>> that you can play with and change in order to engage the
>> audience you want and to tell the stories you want to tell. And
>> sometimes that will involve changes of gender, and it
>> definitively should involve changes of race and WILL, if you
>> have an open casting process and pick the best actor for the
>> role. Imitating the original characters, keeping them in the
>> same ethnic, social and mental positions, and telling the same
>> stories, isn't a reboot - it's a continuation by other means.
>
> In this case, "reboot" means "I have different stories to tell, so of
> course the characters will change."

And time has passed. TV is a reflection of the society of the day,
regardless of it being science fiction - cf the very sixties attitudes of
Star Trek vs the po-faced serious liberality of TNG vs the almost
insufferably “woke” Discovery. A new Babylon 5 for 2025 is bound to have
different sensibilities from Babylon 5 in 1995, or it’s doomed to failure.

>>
>> And telling stories and having "new" characters that a greater
>> demographic finds relatable isn't "ticking off studio quotas" -
>> it's reaching out to a larger potential audience.
>
> You say that like they're different things. Ticking of studio quotas
> *is* reaching out to a larger potential audience, or so the studios
> believe. That doesn't make it any less ticking off studio quotas.

Goes to motivation, but yes the effect is the same, and if you can please a
few suits while at the same time potentially widening your fan base, it’s
all good.

[Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha]

The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote in

news:sl9g43$jbb$1...@dont-email.me:

Not only has society changed, so has JMS.

>
>>>
>>> And telling stories and having "new" characters that a greater
>>> demographic finds relatable isn't "ticking off studio quotas"
>>> - it's reaching out to a larger potential audience.
>>
>> You say that like they're different things. Ticking of studio
>> quotas *is* reaching out to a larger potential audience, or so
>> the studios believe. That doesn't make it any less ticking off
>> studio quotas.
>
> Goes to motivation, but yes the effect is the same, and if you
> can please a few suits while at the same time potentially
> widening your fan base, it’s all good.
>

They may turn out to be wrong about appealing to the widest
audience (TV shows fail all the time), but as the saying goes, "The
boss isn't always right, but he is always the boss."

[Your Name]

On 2021-10-26 08:02:06 +0000, The Last Doctor said:

> On 25/10/2021 22:05, Your Name wrote:
>>
>> There's a massive difference between an original show casting different
>> genders / races, and an idiotic "reboot" that insists on gender /
>> race-swapping (and crowing about doing it) established characters
>> simply to appease the "Politically Correct' whiners and tick off studio
>> quotas.
>
> The thing about a reboot is - it's a reboot. These aren't "established
> characters", what you have is a set of templates that you can play with
> and change in order to engage the audience you want and to tell the
> stories you want to tell. And sometimes that will involve changes of
> gender, and it definitively should involve changes of race and WILL, if
> you have an open casting process and pick the best actor for the role.
> Imitating the original characters, keeping them in the same ethnic,
> social and mental positions, and telling the same stories, isn't a
> reboot - it's a continuation by other means.

The characters were established by the original. Changing them is
purely a case of appeasing "Politically Correct" whiners and quota
tick-boxing. It's also all one-way - changing these characters away
from being wite males (because as we all know, being a white male is
completely illegal these days). Get back to me when a new "Wonder
Woman" movie casts a male as the lead, when the "Fresh Prince" casts a
lead white male, etc.

> And telling stories and having "new" characters that a greater
> demographic finds relatable isn't "ticking off studio quotas" - it's
> reaching out to a larger potential audience.

Ah, that inane bollocks of an excuse.

> The crowing about it is, indeed, dumb and needs to go away - but half
> the time that's not what's happening.

It is what's happening. Advertising is constantly crowing about how
it's "the first" ... often when it actually isn't. For example, there
have been lots of TV shows with black characters or all black cast way
back on the 1970s and earlier, it's not something that suddenly started
happening in 2018 because morons with no knowledge of the past started
whining louder. :-\

> The studio just let everyone know who's been cast - then has to get
> defensive when reactionary dinosaurs go up in arms about it.

Because they moronically changed established characters to appease
"Politically Correct" whiners.

> I WANT sci-fi that women enjoy watching as well as men, where boys and
> girls; white, black, asian, and latino; gay and straight, bisexual,
> asexual, trans and non-binary; all have role models they can relate
> to. Not all in every show, not all in starring roles - but there. Why
> the hell not?

Real people will enojy the TV show / movie. Stoudi people who won't
watch isomething just because the lead isn't famale / gay / black /
disabled / etc. or because they have some mental health problem whereby
they have to "see themselves onscreen" are simply idiots not worth
bothering with.

[Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha]

Your Name <Your...@YourISP.com> wrote in

news:sl9o93$1plf$1...@gioia.aioe.org:

> On 2021-10-26 08:02:06 +0000, The Last Doctor said:
>
>> On 25/10/2021 22:05, Your Name wrote:
>>>
>>> There's a massive difference between an original show casting
>>> different genders / races, and an idiotic "reboot" that
>>> insists on gender / race-swapping (and crowing about doing it)
>>> established characters simply to appease the "Politically
>>> Correct' whiners and tick off studio quotas.
>>
>> The thing about a reboot is - it's a reboot. These aren't
>> "established characters", what you have is a set of templates
>> that you can play with and change in order to engage the
>> audience you want and to tell the stories you want to tell. And
>> sometimes that will involve changes of gender, and it
>> definitively should involve changes of race and WILL, if you
>> have an open casting process and pick the best actor for the
>> role. Imitating the original characters, keeping them in the
>> same ethnic, social and mental positions, and telling the same
>> stories, isn't a reboot - it's a continuation by other means.
>
> The characters were established by the original. Changing them
> is purely a case of appeasing "Politically Correct" whiners and
> quota tick-boxing.

It would be prefectly reasonable to alter a character to better fit
the altered stories one wants to tell.

>It's also all one-way - changing these
> characters away from being wite males

That, however, is 100% dead on.

> (because as we all know,
> being a white male is completely illegal these days). Get back
> to me when a new "Wonder Woman" movie casts a male as the lead,
> when the "Fresh Prince" casts a lead white male, etc.
>

And if they do change a character to be a white male, he *must* be
gay. You literally could not put the show on television otherwise.

A white, gay man as Wonder Woman, however, might be amusing.

(Havey ou watched the new Magnum, PI? Magnum is still white, male
and hetero. But Higgens is a blonde woman. Which means they have to
have a good deal of "sexual tension" between them, because
Hollywood, really, never changes. Personally, I think it would have
been a better show if they'd left Higgens a middle aged white man -
but still introducted the sexual tension between them.)

[Winston]

Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> writes:
> A white, gay man as Wonder Woman, however, might be amusing.

Less interesting than a white, M2F transgender Wonder Woman.
-WBE

[Ninapenda Jibini]

Winston <w...@UBEBLOCK.psr.com.invalid> wrote in
news:yd8ryfb...@UBEblock.psr.com:

> Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> writes:
>> A white, gay man as Wonder Woman, however, might be amusing.
>
> Less interesting than a white, M2F transgender Wonder Woman.

Perhaps that's what the white, gay man identifies as. And you're not
allowed to question it.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

[Roger Blake]

On 2021-10-26, The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
> I WANT sci-fi that women enjoy watching as well as men, where boys and
> girls; white, black, asian, and latino; gay and straight, bisexual,
> asexual, trans and non-binary; all have role models they can relate to.
> Not all in every show, not all in starring roles - but there. Why the
> hell not?

I am against diversity, inclusion, and social justice.

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[Dex]

On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 00:18:04 -0000 (UTC)
Roger Blake <rogb...@iname.invalid> wrote:

> On 2021-10-26, The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
> > I WANT sci-fi that women enjoy watching as well as men, where boys
> > and girls; white, black, asian, and latino; gay and straight,
> > bisexual, asexual, trans and non-binary; all have role models they
> > can relate to. Not all in every show, not all in starring roles -
> > but there. Why the hell not?
>
> I am against diversity, inclusion, and social justice.
>

Then go make your own sci-fi films or series that do not have them.
Failing that carry on watching old re-runs, not the Alien or Terminator
franchises as they have strong female leads.

[Mike Van Pelt]

In article <20211025090...@nospam.today>,

Dex <vai...@nospam.today> wrote:
>On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 19:09:30 -0700 (PDT)
>Brian McGuinness <b.mcgui...@gmail.com> wrote:
>How about a female Captain in Star Trek? That happened in 1995. Or
>even, shock horror, a Black captain. Chakotay and his Native
>American culture. A black woman, Russian and Asian on
>the bridge in the original series.

That's not what Brian is worried about. But, of course,
you know that.

Personally, I was disappointed when Senegalese
Johnny Sekka was replaced with African-American
Richard Biggs, though I really liked Biggs' portrayal
a lot, and he was one of my favorite characters.

I'd like to see JMS find a Senegalese (or Kenyan,
or Nigerian, or (etc)) to play the doctor in the
reboot.

[Ninapenda Jibini]

Dex <vai...@nospam.today> wrote in
news:20211028104...@nospam.today:

> On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 00:18:04 -0000 (UTC)
> Roger Blake <rogb...@iname.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2021-10-26, The Last Doctor <mi...@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> > I WANT sci-fi that women enjoy watching as well as men, where
>> > boys and girls; white, black, asian, and latino; gay and
>> > straight, bisexual, asexual, trans and non-binary; all have
>> > role models they can relate to. Not all in every show, not
>> > all in starring roles - but there. Why the hell not?
>>
>> I am against diversity, inclusion, and social justice.
>>
>
> Then go make your own sci-fi films or series that do not have
> them.

Do you make your own movies that do?

If not, then you're nothing but a hypocrite.

> Failing that carry on watching old re-runs, not the Alien
> or Terminator franchises as they have strong female leads.
>

Or convey to the people who make movies what he wants.

It is a *universal* characteristic of the woke left that they are
so insecure in their own beliefs that they feel the need to silence
all other opinions, and increasingly want to do so through
violence.