NBC cancels "Awake," "Chelsea," "BFF," "Bent"

[David]

http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/nbc-cancels-four-series-passes-on-remaining-pilots/

NBC Cancels Four Series, Passes On Remaining Pilots
By NELLIE ANDREEVA

After the steady stream of new series pickups and renewals over the
past five days, NBC cleaned house, canceling the bubble series that
had not been renewed yet and passing on the pilots that had not been
picked up to series yet. The series getting axed officially include
comedies Are You There, Chelsea, BFF and Bent as well as drama Awake,
which showed some spunk with a ratings increase last night. It proved
to be a case of too little too late.

[JM Morrison]

Ah, damn. I was loving Awake...

-jmm

[Adam H. Kerman]

I didn't expect Awake to get renewed, oh well.

Those bastards better wrap up the fucking story.

I watched Bent all the way through. It didn't have much going for it,
but it had a few moments and Jeffrey Tambor stole most of his scenes.

The two leads lacked sufficient chemistry. I didn't like the Russian nor
black guy on the crew. Jess Plemmons did fine.

[Tony Calguire]

David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:actqq7prcv024vgum...@4ax.com:

>
> The series getting axed officially include
> comedies Are You There, Chelsea, BFF and Bent as well as drama Awake,
> which showed some spunk with a ratings increase last night. It proved
> to be a case of too little too late.

No. NBC's handling and scheduling of Awake, from last year's upfronts all
the way till March, proved to be a case of too little too late.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Tony Calguire <calg...@tcfreenet.invalid> wrote:

>No. NBC's handling and scheduling of Awake, from last year's upfronts all
>the way till March, proved to be a case of too little too late.

Was it announced back then?

[David]

I blame Ian. He doesn't even like "The Mentalist" that much anymore so
when he's finally ready to quit it after season 9 I'll be there to
remind him that he killed "Awake"!

[Patty Winter]

In article <actqq7prcv024vgum...@4ax.com>,
David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/nbc-cancels-four-series-passes-on-remaining-pilots/

>
>. The series getting axed officially include
>comedies Are You There, Chelsea, BFF and Bent as well as drama Awake,
>which showed some spunk with a ratings increase last night. It proved
>to be a case of too little too late.

Sigh. I was almost certain this was going to happen, but I'm still
disappointed.


Patty

[Ian J. Ball]

In article <m8vqq7ddthk4m363r...@4ax.com>,

I'm not sure how you can blame me for this one when I was one of the
people watching "Awake", in the Live+1 sense...

--
"We're gonna need a lot of therapy." - the character Rachel in "Bunnyman"
(named 1 of the 5 Worst Horror Films of 2011 by 28DaysLaterAnalysis.com!!)

[David]

On Fri, 11 May 2012 14:57:30 -0700, "Ian J. Ball"
<ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:

>In article <m8vqq7ddthk4m363r...@4ax.com>,
> David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 11 May 2012 20:52:30 +0000 (UTC), Tony Calguire
>> <calg...@tcfreenet.invalid> wrote:

>> >No. NBC's handling and scheduling of Awake, from last year's upfronts all
>> >the way till March, proved to be a case of too little too late.
>>
>> I blame Ian. He doesn't even like "The Mentalist" that much anymore so
>> when he's finally ready to quit it after season 9 I'll be there to
>> remind him that he killed "Awake"!
>
>I'm not sure how you can blame me for this one when I was one of the
>people watching "Awake", in the Live+1 sense...

Did you watch the commercials?

[Professor Bubba]

In article <jojt0j$jcm$2...@news.albasani.net>, Adam H. Kerman
<a...@chinet.com> wrote:

>
> >>http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/nbc-cancels-four-series-passes-on-remaining-

> >pilots/
>
> >NBC Cancels Four Series, Passes On Remaining Pilots
> >By NELLIE ANDREEVA
>
> >After the steady stream of new series pickups and renewals over the
> >past five days, NBC cleaned house, canceling the bubble series that
> >had not been renewed yet and passing on the pilots that had not been
> >picked up to series yet. The series getting axed officially include
> >comedies Are You There, Chelsea, BFF and Bent as well as drama Awake,
> >which showed some spunk with a ratings increase last night. It proved
> >to be a case of too little too late.
>
> I didn't expect Awake to get renewed, oh well.
>
> Those bastards better wrap up the fucking story.

I waited 43 frickin' years for somebody to provide the solution to the
mystery behind Coronet Blue.

I hope your wait is not as long.

[Ian J. Ball]

In article <l43rq7dhqv6pq3o71...@4ax.com>,

David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 11 May 2012 14:57:30 -0700, "Ian J. Ball"
> <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>
> >In article <m8vqq7ddthk4m363r...@4ax.com>,
> > David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 11 May 2012 20:52:30 +0000 (UTC), Tony Calguire
> >> <calg...@tcfreenet.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> >No. NBC's handling and scheduling of Awake, from last year's upfronts
> >> >all
> >> >the way till March, proved to be a case of too little too late.
> >>
> >> I blame Ian. He doesn't even like "The Mentalist" that much anymore so
> >> when he's finally ready to quit it after season 9 I'll be there to
> >> remind him that he killed "Awake"!
> >
> >I'm not sure how you can blame me for this one when I was one of the
> >people watching "Awake", in the Live+1 sense...
>
> Did you watch the commercials?

There are commercials?...

[Adam H. Kerman]

Professor Bubba wrote:

>I waited 43 frickin' years for somebody to provide the solution to the
>mystery behind Coronet Blue.

>I hope your wait is not as long.

Never even heard of it, but I did like Frank Converse. I see CBS stuck
it on the back burner for two seasons.

[Mason Barge]

On Fri, 11 May 2012 20:32:19 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<a...@chinet.com> wrote:

>>http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/nbc-cancels-four-series-passes-on-remaining-pilots/
>
>>NBC Cancels Four Series, Passes On Remaining Pilots
>>By NELLIE ANDREEVA
>
>>After the steady stream of new series pickups and renewals over the
>>past five days, NBC cleaned house, canceling the bubble series that
>>had not been renewed yet and passing on the pilots that had not been
>>picked up to series yet. The series getting axed officially include
>>comedies Are You There, Chelsea, BFF and Bent as well as drama Awake,
>>which showed some spunk with a ratings increase last night. It proved
>>to be a case of too little too late.
>
>I didn't expect Awake to get renewed, oh well.
>
>Those bastards better wrap up the fucking story.

That's the whole problem in a nutshell. The showrunners are so good that
they will wrap it up great.

[EGK]

Me too. It was the only show I watch on NBC besides The Office and I only
still watch that out of habit. Awake was a good show.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <jok343$ttk$7...@news.albasani.net>,

"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

> Professor Bubba wrote:
>
> >I waited 43 frickin' years for somebody to provide the solution to the
> >mystery behind Coronet Blue.
>
> >I hope your wait is not as long.
>
> Never even heard of it,

Ack, sputter, spew

but I did like Frank Converse. I see CBS stuck
> it on the back burner for two seasons.

--
So we're all agreed that Clod is as stupid as Charlie Sheen?

[anim8rFSK]

In article <110520121811122547%bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid>,

I figured Michael got his memory back, realized he was an undercover
cop, and went back to work at the N.Y.P.D.

N Tbqyrff Pbzzvr Ehfxvr fcl? Ernyyl? Qvq jr npghnyyl jnag gb urne gung
pbapyhfvba??

[Tony Calguire]

"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote in
news:jojua8$n2j$1...@news.albasani.net:

My memory's a little fuzzy, but David was making posts about it all through
development season, and I remember being intrigued. I thought it deserved
a slot on the fall schedule, and I was surprised it didn't get it. It
shoulda got Prime Suspects's slot.

[Adam H. Kerman]

anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>Professor Bubba wrote:

>>>I waited 43 frickin' years for somebody to provide the solution to the
>>>mystery behind Coronet Blue.

>>>I hope your wait is not as long.

>>Never even heard of it,

>Ack, sputter, spew

What's wrong with Coronet Blue?

[Robin Miller]

Why didn't anybody watch this show? It wasn't even sampled to any
degree. Did people just not notice it among the midseason shows? With
such a unique premise, and several pretty well known actors, I would
have thought that more people would have checked it out.

--Robin

[David]

It was developed last year but it underwent a retooling in the Fall so
it wasn't ready by midseason.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <jok7bo$83i$1...@news.albasani.net>,

I love Cornet Blue. I can still sing the theme song. I was aghast that
someone had never even heard of it. :(

[Adam H. Kerman]

anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>Professor Bubba wrote:

>>>>>I waited 43 frickin' years for somebody to provide the solution to the
>>>>>mystery behind Coronet Blue.

>>>>>I hope your wait is not as long.

>>>>Never even heard of it,

>>>Ack, sputter, spew

>>What's wrong with Coronet Blue?

>I love Cornet Blue. I can still sing the theme song. I was aghast that
>someone had never even heard of it. :(

What do you want from me? I remember only what I've watched. I would have
been rather young at the time.

[suzeeq]

It did... but not till march.

[Stan Brown]

You speak for me also. I was beginning to have hopes, and hat's
always the kiss of death for a series.

I wonder if we'll ever get any resolution.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

[EGK]

On Fri, 11 May 2012 20:00:58 -0400, Robin Miller <compl...@invalid.com>
wrote:

Good question why people didn't try it. It was on opposite The Mentalist
though. I think that still pulls in pretty good ratings. It could also
be burn-out with yet another show that looked like it had a mysterious hook
that might or might not ever be explained.

And I take that back about it being the only other show on NBC I watched. I
like Grimm too. I think Grimm has gotten much better in recent episodes.
They're starting to explain more about what a Grimm is and can do. Too bad
Awake didn't get the same opportunity.

[Patty Winter]

In article <MPG.2a1778604...@news.individual.net>,
Stan Brown <the_sta...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

[re AWAKE]

>I wonder if we'll ever get any resolution.

I doubt it. It's too late now to film a series finale instead of
a season finale, so our only hope is if they already filmed two
versions and can air the really-really-final one in two weeks.

Does anyone know whether TV producers ever do that, especially
with series that are built around some kind of mystery?


Patty

[Adam H. Kerman]

EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>And I take that back about it being the only other show on NBC I watched. I
>like Grimm too.

It's hard to count imports as American shows, so you were right
the first time.

[Barry Margolin]

In article <4fadb5bd$0$16124$742e...@news.sonic.net>,

I doubt they ever film two widely different episodes, but they'll
sometimes write the season finale in a way that allows it to be a
satisfying series finale, and film two versions of the final scene: one
with a conclusion, the other perhaps being a cliffhanger.

I think the Fringe producers said in an interview a few weeks ago that
they did this when they weren't yet sure of their fate.

--
Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA

[Professor Bubba]

In article <anim8rfsk-37A99...@news.easynews.com>,

In retrospect, it's really the only internally consistent explanation
that makes any sense.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <jok9lj$ahh$3...@news.albasani.net>,

I was a kid!

[anim8rFSK]

In article <jok97p$joa$1...@dont-email.me>,

I watched the pilot. It was okay but not overly compelling and I was
sure it wouldn't last, so I didn't go on with it.

[Professor Bubba]

In article <barmar-CEE5D4....@news.eternal-september.org>,

Quantum Leap and Beauty and the Beast are two examples of series that
were resolved in editing. Jericho did a rather elaborate alternative
ending that concluded the arc they were on; they released the
continuation version on the DVD.

There are many more examples of series that arrogantly gave us a
cliffhanger when they knew they were done. Lois & Clark comes
instantly to mind.

I dropped Awake shortly after the episode with the detective's old
partner. I was waiting for them to do something different and
surprising, since I thought we were supposed to think the old partner
was the crook from the git-go. Instead, we got the cliché. Very
disappointing. Since it was clear from the declining numbers that the
series wasn't going to last, I just dropped it rather than invest more
time in it.

[Adam H. Kerman]

anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Professor Bubba wrote:

>>>>>>>I waited 43 frickin' years for somebody to provide the solution to the
>>>>>>>mystery behind Coronet Blue.

>>>>>>>I hope your wait is not as long.

>>>>>>Never even heard of it,

>>>>>Ack, sputter, spew

>>>>What's wrong with Coronet Blue?

>>>I love Cornet Blue. I can still sing the theme song. I was aghast that
>>>someone had never even heard of it. :(

>>What do you want from me? I remember only what I've watched. I would have
>>been rather young at the time.

>I was a kid!

I have no memories of watching television in the 1960's at all.

[Tony Calguire]

Robin Miller <compl...@invalid.com> wrote in
news:jok97p$joa$1...@dont-email.me:

>
>
> Why didn't anybody watch this show? It wasn't even sampled to any
> degree. Did people just not notice it among the midseason shows? With
> such a unique premise, and several pretty well known actors, I would
> have thought that more people would have checked it out.
>

I have always believed that, through years and years of TV watching,
viewers are conditioned to regard spring premieres differently than fall
premieres. People just naturally assume that the good shows start in
September, a few good shows start in January, and if something starts in
March or April, it must be bad. It doesn't help that NBC has terrible
ratings and can only promote it's shows during other shows with terrible
ratings. And, I think The Mentalist has a lot of the audience that might
have liked Awake.

So, does anybody know how much it would cost to mail a stuffed penguin to
Burbank? And another one to 30 Rock for good measure? :-)

[Professor Bubba]

In article <jokrb6$tto$1...@dont-email.me>, Tony Calguire

<calg...@tcfreenet.invalid> wrote:

> I have always believed that, through years and years of TV watching,
> viewers are conditioned to regard spring premieres differently than fall
> premieres. People just naturally assume that the good shows start in
> September, a few good shows start in January, and if something starts in
> March or April, it must be bad.

There may be something to that. I know my own assumption is that a
show that starts in February is a "midseason replacement," which still
connotes (to me, anyway) long odds and low quality. I'm from back when
a series tended to get at least a full season, that a half-season run
was very rare, and a four-episode run like The Tammy Grimes Show was an
unmitigated and virtually unprecedented disaster.

The audience may well presume that a series that begins after the
season starts is a leftover, a cull that didn't make the original cut.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <110520122234370312%bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid>,

Professor Bubba <bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid> wrote:

> In article <barmar-CEE5D4....@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> > In article <4fadb5bd$0$16124$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
> > Patty Winter <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <MPG.2a1778604...@news.individual.net>,
> > > Stan Brown <the_sta...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > >
> > > [re AWAKE]
> > >
> > > >I wonder if we'll ever get any resolution.
> > >
> > > I doubt it. It's too late now to film a series finale instead of
> > > a season finale, so our only hope is if they already filmed two
> > > versions and can air the really-really-final one in two weeks.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know whether TV producers ever do that, especially
> > > with series that are built around some kind of mystery?
> >
> > I doubt they ever film two widely different episodes, but they'll
> > sometimes write the season finale in a way that allows it to be a
> > satisfying series finale, and film two versions of the final scene: one
> > with a conclusion, the other perhaps being a cliffhanger.
> >
> > I think the Fringe producers said in an interview a few weeks ago that
> > they did this when they weren't yet sure of their fate.
>
>
> Quantum Leap and Beauty and the Beast are two examples of series that
> were resolved in editing.

What did B&tB do? I quit watching when they didn't have a beauty any
more.

QL had that entire last boring episode in God's Bar. That wasn't
intended as a finale?

>
> There are many more examples of series that arrogantly gave us a
> cliffhanger when they knew they were done. Lois & Clark comes
> instantly to mind.

As awful as L&C had become ... I'm not sure they knew they were done.
Who would have believed that ABC wanted to be rid of the show so badly
they'd pay a huge penalty to jettison it?

[anim8rFSK]

In article <joki9r$ds4$2...@news.albasani.net>,

ugh

[anim8rFSK]

In article <110520122217198025%bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid>,

Naq ur tbg fbzr fryrpgvir nzarfvn gung znqr uvz sbetrg uvf angvir
ynathntr?

[Professor Bubba]

In article <anim8rfsk-6E387...@news.easynews.com>,

Znlor gur Fbivrgf ulcabgvmrq Nyqra vagb sbetrggvat nofbyhgryl
rirelguvat nobhg uvf cnfg orpnhfr ur jnf fb qrrcyl haqrepbire, naq gura
ur tbg njnl fbzrubj. Uryy, tvira 43 lrnef, nalobql bhtug gb or noyr gb
pbzr hc jvgu fbzr fbeg bs rkcynangvba, rira n GI rkrphgvir.

[Professor Bubba]

In article <anim8rfsk-9AD7E...@news.easynews.com>,

They had two or three episodes with the new Beauty in the can, so they
stitched an ending together from those. We saw the bad guy killed off
with a single shot, and some sort of baptismal ceremony by all the
people underground. In syndication, the story is more complicated, and
the ceremony comes an episode or two after the one in which the bad guy
is shot but presumably not killed because, for God's sake, it's only a
single shot and this is TV.

> QL had that entire last boring episode in God's Bar. That wasn't
> intended as a finale?

It was, but there was still some chance that NBC would pick up QL for
another season. The gimmick would have been that, during the following
season, Sam and Al would leap together into adventures. That's why
Al's picture is there and is engulfed by the leap effect. When the
show was cancelled, they faded the leap effect to black and created two
or three slates to tell the viewer that Al and his first wife stayed
together, while Sam never returned home.

> > There are many more examples of series that arrogantly gave us a
> > cliffhanger when they knew they were done. Lois & Clark comes
> > instantly to mind.
>
> As awful as L&C had become ... I'm not sure they knew they were done.
> Who would have believed that ABC wanted to be rid of the show so badly
> they'd pay a huge penalty to jettison it?

Yeah, they knew, and they said so on CompuServe and some other places
at the time, even while they were telling us about who the baby was
supposed to be -- a fourth- or fifth-generation descendant of
Superman's, IIRC. They purposefully didn't fix the ending; they were
being sulky about the cancellation. They themselves suggested an
ending with a freeze frame on the couple just before the doorbell
rings, with a slow zoom into Lois and the sound of a fetal heartbeat on
the soundtrack.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <120520120739350594%bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid>,

Hmm. Preexisting condition. I like it.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <120520120750259577%bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid>,

k, thanks

>
> > > There are many more examples of series that arrogantly gave us a
> > > cliffhanger when they knew they were done. Lois & Clark comes
> > > instantly to mind.
> >
> > As awful as L&C had become ... I'm not sure they knew they were done.
> > Who would have believed that ABC wanted to be rid of the show so badly
> > they'd pay a huge penalty to jettison it?
>
> Yeah, they knew, and they said so on CompuServe and some other places
> at the time, even while they were telling us about who the baby was
> supposed to be -- a fourth- or fifth-generation descendant of
> Superman's, IIRC. They purposefully didn't fix the ending; they were
> being sulky about the cancellation. They themselves suggested an
> ending with a freeze frame on the couple just before the doorbell
> rings, with a slow zoom into Lois and the sound of a fetal heartbeat on
> the soundtrack.

Well that just sucks. There's *so* much to dislike about L&C, and a lot
of it feels like the PTB were just being mean spirited towards the
project and/or the audience.

[Klaatu]

"David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:actqq7prcv024vgum...@4ax.com...
> http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/nbc-cancels-four-series-passes-on-remaining-pilots/

>
> NBC Cancels Four Series, Passes On Remaining Pilots
> By NELLIE ANDREEVA
>
> After the steady stream of new series pickups and renewals over the
> past five days, NBC cleaned house, canceling the bubble series that
> had not been renewed yet and passing on the pilots that had not been
> picked up to series yet. The series getting axed officially include
> comedies Are You There, Chelsea, BFF and Bent as well as drama Awake,
> which showed some spunk with a ratings increase last night. It proved
> to be a case of too little too late.

Good. After sampling AYTC, BFF, Bent and Awake, I conclude they deserved
it.

[Ian J. Ball]

In article <anim8rfsk-5F793...@news.easynews.com>,

You gotta remember - L&C was at that point run not by Deborah Joy
Levine, but by the hacks ABC put in there after they forced Levine out
who had no loyalty to the show, the fans, or anybody else.

L&C is probably the A#1 example of a show ruined by network goon
interference/"retooling" - only season #1 of that show was any good.

--
"We're gonna need a lot of therapy." - the character Rachel in "Bunnyman"
(named 1 of the 5 Worst Horror Films of 2011 by 28DaysLaterAnalysis.com!!)

[William December Starr]

In article <120520120750259577%bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid>,
Professor Bubba <bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid> said:

[ re "Beauty and the Beast" ]

> They had two or three episodes with the new Beauty in the can, so
> they stitched an ending together from those. We saw the bad guy
> killed off with a single shot, and some sort of baptismal ceremony
> by all the people underground. In syndication, the story is more
> complicated, and the ceremony comes an episode or two after the
> one in which the bad guy is shot but presumably not killed
> because, for God's sake, it's only a single shot and this is TV.

And also because it was hinted that he was something supernatural.
Or at least those were the hints I got, even if the showrunners
didn't intend them.

-- wds

[~consul]

'tis on this 5/11/2012 10:09 PM, wrote Tony Calguire thus to say:
> Robin Miller<compl...@invalid.com> wrote in

>> Why didn't anybody watch this show? It wasn't even sampled to any
>> degree. Did people just not notice it among the midseason shows? With
>> such a unique premise, and several pretty well known actors, I would
>> have thought that more people would have checked it out.

> So, does anybody know how much it would cost to mail a stuffed penguin to
> Burbank? And another one to 30 Rock for good measure? :-)

I think mailing in different coloured rubberbands would be better. We want to mark the duality of the timeline, not the hallucinations.
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>

[Micky DuPree]

Professor Bubba <bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid> writes:

> I dropped Awake shortly after the episode with the detective's old
> partner. I was waiting for them to do something different and
> surprising, since I thought we were supposed to think the old partner

> was the crook from the git-go. Instead, we got the clich�. Very
> disappointing.

If you were expecting the differences and the surprises to be served up
in the cop cases, then yeah, you were going to be disappointed. The
main difference, and it's one of the biggest ones I've seen in 50 years
of watching television, is that one of the worlds probably isn't real,
yet it still manages to help the cases in the other world. How and why
this is so is the real mystery, not the case(s)-of-the-week, and the
biggest clues from the writers to the audience probably come from the
psychiatrists, not from the police cases.

> Since it was clear from the declining numbers that the series wasn't
> going to last, I just dropped it rather than invest more time in it.

It's precisely the fleeting gems that I'm more keen to extract every
drop of juice from.

You never watched, "That's Not My Penguin," did you? Pity.

-Micky

[Professor Bubba]

In article <jp8t1l$70a$1...@pcls6.std.com>, Micky DuPree

<MDu...@theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:

> Professor Bubba <bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid> writes:
>
> > I dropped Awake shortly after the episode with the detective's old
> > partner. I was waiting for them to do something different and
> > surprising, since I thought we were supposed to think the old partner

> > was the crook from the git-go. Instead, we got the cliché. Very

> > disappointing.
>
> If you were expecting the differences and the surprises to be served up
> in the cop cases, then yeah, you were going to be disappointed. The
> main difference, and it's one of the biggest ones I've seen in 50 years
> of watching television, is that one of the worlds probably isn't real,
> yet it still manages to help the cases in the other world. How and why
> this is so is the real mystery, not the case(s)-of-the-week, and the
> biggest clues from the writers to the audience probably come from the
> psychiatrists, not from the police cases.

You're talking about the rationale of the entire series, and I'm
talking about the shopworn device of having the never-before-seen old
partner of the protagonist cop turn out to be dirty.

I'd probably have stuck with the series if they'd done that one
differently. I'd liked the show well enough before then.

> > Since it was clear from the declining numbers that the series wasn't
> > going to last, I just dropped it rather than invest more time in it.
>
> It's precisely the fleeting gems that I'm more keen to extract every
> drop of juice from.
>
> You never watched, "That's Not My Penguin," did you? Pity.

No, I didn't see that one.

[Mason Barge]

On Sat, 19 May 2012 17:00:47 -0400, Professor Bubba
<bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid> wrote:

>In article <jp8t1l$70a$1...@pcls6.std.com>, Micky DuPree
><MDu...@theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:
>
>> Professor Bubba <bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid> writes:
>>
>> > I dropped Awake shortly after the episode with the detective's old
>> > partner. I was waiting for them to do something different and
>> > surprising, since I thought we were supposed to think the old partner

>> > was the crook from the git-go. Instead, we got the clich�. Very

>> > disappointing.
>>
>> If you were expecting the differences and the surprises to be served up
>> in the cop cases, then yeah, you were going to be disappointed. The
>> main difference, and it's one of the biggest ones I've seen in 50 years
>> of watching television, is that one of the worlds probably isn't real,
>> yet it still manages to help the cases in the other world. How and why
>> this is so is the real mystery, not the case(s)-of-the-week, and the
>> biggest clues from the writers to the audience probably come from the
>> psychiatrists, not from the police cases.
>
>You're talking about the rationale of the entire series, and I'm
>talking about the shopworn device of having the never-before-seen old
>partner of the protagonist cop turn out to be dirty.
>
>I'd probably have stuck with the series if they'd done that one
>differently. I'd liked the show well enough before then.

I could be wrong, but right off the top of my head, I don't think Britten
technically has a dirty ex-partner.

The closest I can come is his captain, Laura Innes, who is part of the
heroin ring, but I don't remember anything about them ever being partners.
They were friends in the police academy and might have worked in the same
precinct.

Again, I could be mistaken. There is an awful lot of stuff going on.

[Obveeus]

"Mason Barge" <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 May 2012 17:00:47 -0400, Professor Bubba
> <bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid> wrote:
>>You're talking about the rationale of the entire series, and I'm
>>talking about the shopworn device of having the never-before-seen old
>>partner of the protagonist cop turn out to be dirty.
>>
>>I'd probably have stuck with the series if they'd done that one
>>differently. I'd liked the show well enough before then.

> I could be wrong, but right off the top of my head, I don't think Britten
> technically has a dirty ex-partner.

There was a one off episode about an ex-partner. Not the main character
that is an ex-partner in one reality and a current partner in the other
reality.

[Stan Brown]

On Sat, 19 May 2012 19:41:41 +0000 (UTC), Micky DuPree wrote:
> You never watched, "That's Not My Penguin," did you? Pity.

I believe it's still available at NBC's "Awake" Web site.


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Shikata ga nai...

[Professor Bubba]

In article <dk3gr7hr8b67goah6...@4ax.com>, Mason Barge

Ah, right. I forgot that we've seen two ex-partners (and one of those
is an ex in only one of the worlds). The partner I was talking about
was played by William Russ:

<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0750916/>

[suzeeq]

It's the current partner of his expartner that's implicated in 'the
conspiracy'.