Syfy renews "Stargate: Universe," "Sanctuary"
David
Syfy renews 'Stargate,' 'Sanctuary'
Cable net hands each series a 20-episode order
By James Hibberd
Syfy is expanding its commitments to "Stargate: Universe" and
"Sanctuary," granting both series another season.
"Universe" recently aired its freshman midseason finale. The show's
hiatus will extend until April, and Season 2 will debut in the fall
along with a third season of "Sanctuary."
The Friday night shows have commenced production on their next seasons
in Vancouver and have received 20-episode orders. "Sanctuary" has
averaged 2.2 million viewers in the fall when seven-day DVR data is
included. "Universe" has averaged 2.6 million.
Debuting after the conclusion of Syfy's critically acclaimed
"Battlestar Galactica" and the cancellation of "Stargate: Atlantis,"
"Universe" has charted a tricky course through the network's fandom.
Striking a tone that was more realistic than previous "Stargate" shows
though not as grim as "Galactica," some viewers were miffed the show
was not familiar enough.
"We're dealing with 15 seasons of expectations with a certain
fanbase," executive producer Robert Cooper said. "Hopefully, as the
show goes on, people will appreciate 'Universe' for being its own
thing."
With a fall-finale cliffhanger that left the ethically compromised Dr.
Rush (Robert Carlyle) stranded on a planet, Cooper said the season's
second half will become more serialized and build on the fractures
within the show's group of spaceship-trapped castaways.
"The implications of leaving Rush on the planet, the real division
that will cause amongst the crew, the judgment of those characters and
their actions are going to have a big impact on the show," Cooper
said. "We have a lot of things planned for the second half of the
season."
The show also plans to have more scenes set on the ship, as opposed to
cutting back to drama on Earth, and will introduce a full-bodied
alien.
"There is a big story point coming up that does introduce an alien
race," Cooper said. "It's more along the line of a "District 9"-type
alien. Our interaction is handled in a very "Universe" way; they're
not the typical "Stargate" alien bad guys."
Dave
>
>Cooper said the season's
>second half will become more serialized and build on the fractures
>within the show's group of spaceship-trapped castaways.
>
>"The implications of leaving Rush on the planet, the real division
>that will cause amongst the crew, the judgment of those characters and
>their actions are going to have a big impact on the show,"
Thus cementing my decision to stop watching. I said previously I
would give it until the mid-season break before making a decision.
Now it's done. I'm not so interested in watching the stranded group
fracture into political subdivisions while coping with their personal
issues at home. Many may like this show, but it misses the mark for
me and I'm not one to waste my life watching a show because "it's the
best thing on during that time slot".
Davej
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e...
>
> Syfy renews 'Stargate,' 'Sanctuary'
Good. Now if Amanda Tapping could just wake up from a head wound and
lose that stupid British accent and her stupid co-star could stop
standing around with his mouth hanging open.
Ian J. Ball
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e...
>
> Cable net hands each series a 20-episode order
> By James Hibberd
>
> Syfy is expanding its commitments to "Stargate: Universe" and
> "Sanctuary," granting both series another season.
>
> "Universe" recently aired its freshman midseason finale. The show's
> hiatus will extend until April, and Season 2 will debut in the fall
> along with a third season of "Sanctuary."
>
> The Friday night shows have commenced production on their next seasons
> in Vancouver and have received 20-episode orders. "Sanctuary" has
> averaged 2.2 million viewers in the fall when seven-day DVR data is
> included. "Universe" has averaged 2.6 million.
Hey, Siffy - you can get back to me when you rehire the Danish girl,
and the hott Invisible Girl, on "Sanctuary"!!
Ian (Meanwhile, nothing can save SG:Ugh! with this viewer... :/ )
Syvyn11
"Davej" <gal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c9248aa7-b5b4-4ba9...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
Actually, that's her natural accent. She's a brit.
Adam H. Kerman
>Syfy renews 'Stargate,' 'Sanctuary'
>Cable net hands each series a 20-episode order
>By James Hibberd
>Syfy is expanding its commitments to "Stargate: Universe" and
>"Sanctuary," granting both series another season.
Oh. Why?
Adam H. Kerman
>"Davej" <gal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Good. Now if Amanda Tapping could just wake up from a head wound and
>>lose that stupid British accent and her stupid co-star could stop
>>standing around with his mouth hanging open.
>Actually, that's her natural accent. She's a brit.
She's from Toronto, where she lived from age 3. Actually, I didn't know she
was born in England till you said something, but her natural accent should
be, uh, Torontish.
clouddreamer
Why not?
..
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.
erilar
David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Striking a tone that was more realistic than previous "Stargate" shows
> though not as grim as "Galactica,"
Where is it less grim than BG??
--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
A Watcher
> In article <igfbi5hhn99aousdd...@4ax.com>,
> David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Striking a tone that was more realistic than previous "Stargate" shows
>> though not as grim as "Galactica,"
>
> Where is it less grim than BG??
>
In BSG they were facing instant death at any moment. In SGU they are
stranded, but are in immediate peril. Death by boredom?
A Watcher
Another typo
I meant they are in no immediate peril.
Anim8rFSK
<c9248aa7-b5b4-4ba9...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Davej <gal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 13, 10:26�pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content display/television/news/e...
> >
> > Syfy renews 'Stargate,' 'Sanctuary'
>
>
> Good. Now if Amanda Tapping could just wake up from a head wound and
> lose that stupid British accent and her stupid co-star could stop
> standing around with his mouth hanging open.
And the daughter would come back.
--
Happy 30th Anniversary
STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE
http://www.onedigitallife.com/images/star-trek-the-motion-picture.jpg
"The Human Adventure Is Just Beginning"
Anim8rFSK
<ba281c52-a4a5-4723...@u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
"Ian J. Ball" <ib...@san.rr.com> wrote:
> On Dec 13, 8:26�pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content display/television/news/e...
> >
> > Syfy renews 'Stargate,' 'Sanctuary'
> > Cable net hands each series a 20-episode order
> > By James Hibberd
> >
> > Syfy is expanding its commitments to "Stargate: Universe" and
> > "Sanctuary," granting both series another season.
> >
> > "Universe" recently aired its freshman midseason finale. The show's
> > hiatus will extend until April, and Season 2 will debut in the fall
> > along with a third season of "Sanctuary."
> >
> > The Friday night shows have commenced production on their next seasons
> > in Vancouver and have received 20-episode orders. "Sanctuary" has
> > averaged 2.2 million viewers in the fall when seven-day DVR data is
> > included. "Universe" has averaged 2.6 million.
>
> Hey, Siffy - you can get back to me when you rehire the Danish girl,
> and the hott Invisible Girl, on "Sanctuary"!!
Yes
>
>
> Ian (Meanwhile, nothing can save SG:Ugh! with this viewer... :/ )
No
AC
"Davej" <gal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c9248aa7-b5b4-4ba9...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
I like to think of her as payback for Jason Statham's American accent, which
I believe is in its self an act of war on the US. Shame the Canadian thing
screws it up.......
AC
AC
"David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:igfbi5hhn99aousdd...@4ax.com...
All the SGU stuff sounds great. I cant wait for it to continue. Its been the
best SG so far ( movie excepted), glad to see they are carrying on.
AC
AC
Pete B
@u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, ib...@san.rr.com says...
Who was that - Ullerup?
> Ian (Meanwhile, nothing can save SG:Ugh! with this viewer... :/ )
Noone for you to lust after, eh? ;)
Pete B
dra...@chibardun.net.invalid says...
> In article <igfbi5hhn99aousdd...@4ax.com>,
> David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Striking a tone that was more realistic than previous "Stargate" shows
> > though not as grim as "Galactica,"
>
> Where is it less grim than BG??
The earth is still safe and these jokers are far away? :)
Ian J. Ball
Pete B <xxxh@_xsomeething.com> wrote:
> In article <ba281c52-a4a5-4723-adbd-b5c44ca21b72
> @u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, ib...@san.rr.com says...
> >
> > Hey, Siffy - you can get back to me when you rehire the Danish girl,
> > and the hott Invisible Girl, on "Sanctuary"!!
>
> Who was that - Ullerup?
Ullerup is the Danish girl, yep.
> > Ian (Meanwhile, nothing can save SG:Ugh! with this viewer... :/ )
>
> Noone for you to lust after, eh? ;)
Actually, I think the Zoe actress is quite cute. But there are limits to
how much good eye-candy can get me to watch a bad show... :/
I much prefer good eye-candy on a *good* show (e.g. Vampire Dairies)!
;)
--
"There's no business, like Cho business."
- Patrick Jane, "The Mentalist", 02/11/09
Ian J. Ball
Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <c9248aa7-b5b4-4ba9...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> Davej <gal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 13, 10:26�pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content display/television/news/e...
> > >
> > > Syfy renews 'Stargate,' 'Sanctuary'
> >
> > Good. Now if Amanda Tapping could just wake up from a head wound and
> > lose that stupid British accent and her stupid co-star could stop
> > standing around with his mouth hanging open.
>
> And the daughter would come back.
Don't forget the hott Invisible Girl!!!1!
Ian J. Ball
wrote:
> "David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:igfbi5hhn99aousdd...@4ax.com...
> > http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i27f16
> > 7feba4ef287c4f08282de2a4f70
> >
> > Syfy renews 'Stargate,' 'Sanctuary'
> > Cable net hands each series a 20-episode order
> > By James Hibberd
> >
> > Syfy is expanding its commitments to "Stargate: Universe" and
> > "Sanctuary," granting both series another season.
> >
> > "Universe" recently aired its freshman midseason finale. The show's
> > hiatus will extend until April, and Season 2 will debut in the fall
> > along with a third season of "Sanctuary."
>
> All the SGU stuff sounds great. I cant wait for it to continue. Its been the
> best SG so far ( movie excepted), glad to see they are carrying on.
Is this a joke poste?!?!!
A Watcher
I like it precisely because it is different. I don't really care to see
the another show with the same approach. That's been done enough.
shawn
<ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>In article <ANIM8Rfsk-E2211...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <c9248aa7-b5b4-4ba9...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>> Davej <gal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Dec 13, 10:26�pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > > http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content display/television/news/e...
>> > >
>> > > Syfy renews 'Stargate,' 'Sanctuary'
>> >
>> > Good. Now if Amanda Tapping could just wake up from a head wound and
>> > lose that stupid British accent and her stupid co-star could stop
>> > standing around with his mouth hanging open.
>>
>> And the daughter would come back.
>
>Don't forget the hott Invisible Girl!!!1!
If you've got a few spare million dollars I'm sure you can get them
back on the show. ;)
shawn
<dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>In article <igfbi5hhn99aousdd...@4ax.com>,
> David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Striking a tone that was more realistic than previous "Stargate" shows
>> though not as grim as "Galactica,"
>
>Where is it less grim than BG??
Their home planet isn't gone. That's about it. Oh.. They aren't being
chased by any aliens trying to destroy them.. Yet.
David
wrote:
Ian is saving up for his bid on the "Terminator" franchise.
("Sarah Connor" season 3? Yes he can!!)
erilar
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
Has to be!
erilar
shawn <nanof...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:24:56 -0600, erilar
> <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >Where is it less grim than BG?? Their home planet isn't gone. That's about it.
It's not as if they could REACH it, of course. . .
>Oh.. They aren't being
> chased by any aliens trying to destroy them.. Yet.
Yet.
erilar
A Watcher <stoc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
I think you've got it!
David V. Loewe, Jr
<ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>"AC" <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>> "David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote
>> >
>> > Syfy renews 'Stargate,' 'Sanctuary'
>> > Cable net hands each series a 20-episode order
>> > By James Hibberd
>> >
>> > Syfy is expanding its commitments to "Stargate: Universe" and
>> > "Sanctuary," granting both series another season.
>> >
>> > "Universe" recently aired its freshman midseason finale. The show's
>> > hiatus will extend until April, and Season 2 will debut in the fall
>> > along with a third season of "Sanctuary."
>>
>> All the SGU stuff sounds great. I cant wait for it to continue. Its been the
>> best SG so far ( movie excepted), glad to see they are carrying on.
>
>Is this a joke poste?!?!!
I wouldn't say SGU is the best SG, it IS good.
--
"...you know, it seems to me you suffer from the problem of
wanting a tailored fit in an off the rack world."
Dennis Juds
Dimensional Traveler
>>
>> Syfy renews 'Stargate,' 'Sanctuary'
>
>
> Good. Now if Amanda Tapping could just wake up from a head wound and
> lose that stupid British accent and her stupid co-star could stop
> standing around with his mouth hanging open.
I watched some episodes of 'Sanctuary' and it seemed like her British
accent would come and go. Sometimes within a single sentence it sounded
like she's start with the accent, lose it in the middle of the sentence
and then regain it at the end. Anyone else notice this?
--
"Dude. They've gone fractal."
Dimensional Traveler
> In article <MPG.2590a48df...@74.209.131.10>,
> Pete B <xxxh@_xsomeething.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <ba281c52-a4a5-4723-adbd-b5c44ca21b72
>> @u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, ib...@san.rr.com says...
>>> Hey, Siffy - you can get back to me when you rehire the Danish girl,
>>> and the hott Invisible Girl, on "Sanctuary"!!
>> Who was that - Ullerup?
>
> Ullerup is the Danish girl, yep.
>
>>> Ian (Meanwhile, nothing can save SG:Ugh! with this viewer... :/ )
>> Noone for you to lust after, eh? ;)
>
> Actually, I think the Zoe actress is quite cute. But there are limits to
> how much good eye-candy can get me to watch a bad show... :/
>
> I much prefer good eye-candy on a *good* show (e.g. Vampire Dairies)!
> ;)
>
contradict yourself in a single sentence like that. ("good show" -
"Vampire Diaries" ?????? )
Dimensional Traveler
>
>
> "Davej" <gal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c9248aa7-b5b4-4ba9...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e...
>>>
>>> Syfy renews 'Stargate,' 'Sanctuary'
>>
>>
>> Good. Now if Amanda Tapping could just wake up from a head wound and
>> lose that stupid British accent and her stupid co-star could stop
>> standing around with his mouth hanging open.
>
>
Dan Lanciani
And yet they will still probably manage to tick off an alien race that
has the technology to get to and attack Earth in retaliation.
Dan Lanciani
ddl@danlan.*com
Ian J. Ball
Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
Everybody wants a case of this VD!!! :D
Ian J. Ball
David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
You're assuming I'd want that... :/
Ian (Now season #2 of "Nowhere Man"?! YES I CAN!!! :> )
David
<ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>In article <8o6di5hqv9tld938j...@4ax.com>,
> David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:06:29 -0500, shawn <nanof...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:34:03 -0800, "Ian J. Ball"
>> ><ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >>In article <ANIM8Rfsk-E2211...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
>> >> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>> And the daughter would come back.
>> >>
>> >>Don't forget the hott Invisible Girl!!!1!
>> >
>> >If you've got a few spare million dollars I'm sure you can get them
>> >back on the show. ;)
>>
>> Ian is saving up for his bid on the "Terminator" franchise.
>>
>> ("Sarah Connor" season 3? Yes he can!!)
>
>You're assuming I'd want that... :/
In my heart I *know* it!
>Ian (Now season #2 of "Nowhere Man"?! YES I CAN!!! :> )
Not for sale!
DJensen
Moving to Canada doesn't mean her parents stopped speaking with a
British accent. It's one she grew up with. (I'm assuming her accent on
the show is the same as her parents'.)
--
DJensen
Adam H. Kerman
>>>>Good. Now if Amanda Tapping could just wake up from a head wound and
>>>>lose that stupid British accent and her stupid co-star could stop
>>>>standing around with his mouth hanging open.
>>>Actually, that's her natural accent. She's a brit.
>>Who moved to Canada at age 3. So I'd say its not her natural accent.
>Moving to Canada doesn't mean her parents stopped speaking with a
>British accent. It's one she grew up with. (I'm assuming her accent on
>the show is the same as her parents'.)
Not unless theirs was the only English she heard. Her accent should sound
like the accent of kids she went to school with, with a touch of her
parent's accent blended in.
Adam H. Kerman
If you're the producer, you can recast.
>Ian (Now season #2 of "Nowhere Man"?! YES I CAN!!! :> )
I'll contribute to that production fund.
Adam H. Kerman
>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>
>http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i27f167feba4ef287c4f08282de2a4f70
>>
>>> Syfy renews 'Stargate,' 'Sanctuary'
>>> Cable net hands each series a 20-episode order
>>> By James Hibberd
>>
>>> Syfy is expanding its commitments to "Stargate: Universe" and
>>> "Sanctuary," granting both series another season.
>>
>
>
>Why not?
Because.
Adam H. Kerman
>In article <tn6di5dg910cb9r0n...@4ax.com>,
> shawn <nanof...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:24:56 -0600, erilar
>> <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>> >
>> >Where is it less grim than BG?? Their home planet isn't gone. That's
>about it.
> It's not as if they could REACH it, of course. . .
>
>>Oh.. They aren't being
>> chased by any aliens trying to destroy them.. Yet.
>
>Yet.
And we can't get enough of the Replicators!
Dimensional Traveler
than your family as they do from listening to your parents.
Anim8rFSK
nose-dived since they got rid of the daughter.
Last week they did their THIRD bottle show where Carter and Harry Potter
get stuck in a plane crash/underwater and it's just the two of them for
an hour.
This week they did another one of their "run around outside in the alley
so we don't have do to our horrible lame green screen sets" eps
What was the point of the secret rendezvous anyway? Why not just have
Daniel Jackson walk up to the Sanctuary and hand over the Elemental?
For that matter, why not have their resident teleporter just pick up the
Elemental in Chicago in the first place? Oh, that's right, they killed
the teleporter in that "Carter sees the future episode" a few weeks ago,
except NONE OF THAT EVER HAPPENED, IT WAS JUST A VISION and yet the
writers are apparently so stupid they think he's dead; at least he
hasn't been seen or spoken of since.
They can't possibly find the bullet ridden gray car from another car,
the search MUST be conducted on foot! It's the only way! So their
Bigfoot walks around until he finds the gray car, all doors akimbo,
bullet holes everywhere, parked where they left in, on the side of the
street. Nope, none of the dozen people searching for a car could ever
find it THAT way.
You have a bullet in your breast! I must dig it out with a penknife and
then leave it completely untreated, otherwise you will bleed to death!
So new hot chick finds out Daniel Jackson murdered her father and is
going to kill him for it when she thinks he blew up a bank and her
father was collateral damage. But when he explains that he was TRYING to
kill her father, and the other people in the bank were the collateral
damage, she SPARES him, because, um, well, I got nuttin. I'd have put so
many rounds in him he'd have seeped through into the apartment
downstairs.
Let's not even get started on how his stomach pouch is all airtight so
the Elemental doesn't require refrigeration, but if you put it in ANY
thing else, it has to be cryonic.
--
Happy 30th Anniversary
STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE
http://www.onedigitallife.com/images/star-trek-the-motion-picture.jpg
"The Human Adventure Is Just Beginning"
Gisele
news:hg6lb1$m7q$2...@news.albasani.net:
She wouldn't have an English accent if raised in Canada. Her
accent on Sanctuary is annoyingly fake. It's one of the reasons
I can't stand the show.
Gisele
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>You have a bullet in your breast! I must dig it out with a penknife and
>then leave it completely untreated, otherwise you will bleed to death!
Yeah, that was offensively stupid. The treatment was much more likely
to nick a critical blood vessel than leaving the bullet in place. He was
definitely going to damage the muscle tissue significantly that she's not
going to heal up ever. If the bullet were left alone, there'd be risk of
infection and possibly metal poisoning, but I doubt it would have been
life threatening in the next few hours.
>So new hot chick finds out Daniel Jackson murdered her father and is
>going to kill him for it when she thinks he blew up a bank and her
>father was collateral damage. But when he explains that he was TRYING to
>kill her father, and the other people in the bank were the collateral
>damage, she SPARES him, because, um, well, I got nuttin.
She's a thief. She's horrified that her father violated HONOR AMONG THIEVES.
>I'd have put so many rounds in him he'd have seeped through into the
>apartment downstairs.
Why would you have waited till that point in the show?
>Let's not even get started on how his stomach pouch is all airtight so
>the Elemental doesn't require refrigeration, but if you put it in ANY
>thing else, it has to be cryonic.
Duh. He consumes Slushy after Slushy, turning his stomach into an ice pack.
The pouch isn't just air tight. It defeats magnatometers and any ordinary
security measures.
David
You mean it wasn't Ian's idea to make the Terminator a teenage girl?
DJensen
I'm not talking about her natural speaking accent, I'm talking about her
ability to replicate a British accent thanks to decades of hearing it
for hours every day at home.
--
DJensen
Adam H. Kerman
If her parents grew up in Essex (her place of birth), shouldn't it sound
something like a London accent? It's harsh and unpleasant, so I suspect that
she's not a good mimic.
Edward McArdle
<a...@chinet.com> wrote:
Just to add to this pointless thread, there are different accents every
few miles in England, the result of everyone being bound in place over the
ages by outlaws and various other reasons. It is disappointing to think of
all the thespians doing Shakespeare over the years in a plummy accent that
didn't even exist in his time.
--
Edward McArdle
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> In article <hg7orp$a9...@news.albasani.net>, "Adam H. Kerman"
>
>
>
>
>
> <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> >DJensen <i_m...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> >>>DJensen <i_m...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >>>>Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> >>>>>Syvyn11 wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>Good. Now if Amanda Tapping could just wake up from a head wound and
> >>>>>>>lose that stupid British accent and her stupid co-star could stop
> >>>>>>>standing around with his mouth hanging open.
>
> >>>>>>Actually, that's her natural accent. She's a brit.
>
> >>>>>Who moved to Canada at age 3. So I'd say its not her natural accent.
>
> >>>>Moving to Canada doesn't mean her parents stopped speaking with a
> >>>>British accent. It's one she grew up with. (I'm assuming her accent on
> >>>>the show is the same as her parents'.)
>
> >>>Not unless theirs was the only English she heard. Her accent should sound
> >>>like the accent of kids she went to school with, with a touch of her
> >>>parent's accent blended in.
>
> >>I'm not talking about her natural speaking accent, I'm talking about her
> >>ability to replicate a British accent thanks to decades of hearing it
> >>for hours every day at home.
>
> >If her parents grew up in Essex (her place of birth), shouldn't it sound
> >something like a London accent? It's harsh and unpleasant, so I suspect that
> >she's not a good mimic.
>
> Just to add to this pointless thread, there are different accents every
> few miles in England, the result of everyone being bound in place over the
> ages by outlaws and various other reasons. It is disappointing to think of
> all the thespians doing Shakespeare over the years in a plummy accent that
> didn't even exist in his time.
And to make it worse/better (depending on point of view)... Two
British friends have watched episodes of Sanctuary, and they both say
she sounds like a native speaker, so while it may twitch wrong in some
ears, to 2 Londoners she sounds perfectly normal/natural.
suzee
And London has a couple of different accents or more anyway. There's
probably half a dozen different dialects in the whole country, just like
the US. So there's various forms of 'English accent'.
Anim8rFSK
<4ea0b406-8405-49ae...@g4g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
"Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnab...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 15, 3:50�am, mcar...@ozemail.com.au (Edward McArdle) wrote:
> > In article <hg7orp$a9...@news.albasani.net>, "Adam H. Kerman"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> > >DJensen <i m...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> > >>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
So native speakers have accents that go from inpenatrable to non
existant and back again in any given sentence?
David Barnett
news:hg8e0v$vc1$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
<snip>
> And London has a couple of different accents or more anyway. There's
> probably half a dozen different dialects in the whole country, just like
> the US. So there's various forms of 'English accent'.
Her accent doesn't worry me.
I just like looking at her - probably the only reason I watch Sanctuary!
--
David Barnett
Pete B
Yeah, and stone home to go clubbing
David Barnett
news:ijball-NO_SPAM-019...@nntp.aioe.org...
>
> I much prefer good eye-candy on a *good* show (e.g. Vampire Dairies)!
> ;)
Is that a deliberate typo?
Is it really a good show?
Are there only 11 episodes available so far?
I am yet to watch it, but I have been recording it from our Australian
Channel 9's new channel "GO".
--
David Barnett
Dano
I'm late to this thread...but she does an infinitely better job than Marina
Sirtis did in that hideous "Annihilation Earth" with what I can only guess
was supposed to be a Texas accent. I don't know what she was think...what
THEY were thinking even making this awful, meaningless POS.
Gisele
news:4ea0b406-8405-49ae-8854-
f43e2d...@g4g2000pri.googlegroups.com:
Wow, that's amazing because she sounds so fake compared to all
the English actors I've ever heard.
Gisele
Jim Gysin
Anim8rFSK sent the following on 12/15/2009 11:07 AM:
Never talked to a real Scotsman, eh? :)
--
Jim Gysin
Waukesha, WI
David Barnett
news:ANIM8Rfsk-BEBD2...@news.dc1.easynews.com...
> I'm more disappointed they renewed Sanctuary at this point. It's really
> nose-dived since they got rid of the daughter.
I agree; I miss her.
If it hadn't been renewed I would have more chance of reducing my stockpile
ofshows to watch.
However, I would also miss seeing Amanda Tapping.
> Last week they did their THIRD bottle show where Carter and Harry Potter
> get stuck in a plane crash/underwater and it's just the two of them for
> an hour.
No explanation of how they got out of their predicament (unless I nodded).
<snip rest of your amusing post - fodder for you as with DG.
--
David Barnett
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> In article
> <4ea0b406-8405-49ae-8854-f43e2d2a7...@g4g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
Asked my husband (since I dont' actually watch Sanctuary), he said
that some shows she seems to "in and out" with the accent, on others,
she stays on form through the entire episode. Maybe my friends saw
one/two of those eppies?
What did you think of Winona Ryder's accent in Dracula?
David Johnston
And lets not forget that her character is super-old and grew up
speaking an accent that probably doesn't even exist any more.
>
>And to make it worse/better (depending on point of view)... Two
>British friends have watched episodes of Sanctuary, and they both say
>she sounds like a native speaker, so while it may twitch wrong in some
>ears, to 2 Londoners she sounds perfectly normal/natural.
Yeah, I'm always suspicious when people who aren't from a given
country claim that someone else's replication of an accent from that
country is bad. I still get a kick of out of the fact that Laurie
managed to top a poll in England of bad American accents. (Although
to be fair he also topped the matching poll of good American accents)
David Johnston
I'll tell you a secret about most of the English actors you've heard.
Their accents are as fake as they would be if they were American.
Because England has so very many distinct regional accents the odds
are high that no matter what accent you hear an English actor speaking
with, it isn't the one he grew up with. In particular, that plummy
accent that you'll hear from actors playing toffs and scholars is
almost certainly one they learned, since very few actors are actually
from upper class or highly educated families. That's why they call it
acting.
Pete B
NO_...@mac.invalid says...
> Actually, I think the Zoe actress is quite cute. But there are limits to
> how much good eye-candy can get me to watch a bad show... :/
> I much prefer good eye-candy on a *good* show (e.g. Vampire Dairies)!
> ;)
I'm allergic to vampies, so i haven't seen it :)
Pete B
dra...@chibardun.net.invalid says...
> In article <tn6di5dg910cb9r0n...@4ax.com>,
> shawn <nanof...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:24:56 -0600, erilar
> > <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> > >
> > >Where is it less grim than BG?? Their home planet isn't gone. That's about it.
> It's not as if they could REACH it, of course. . .
>
> >Oh.. They aren't being
> > chased by any aliens trying to destroy them.. Yet.
>
> Yet.
I hear they are going to meet an alien, but it wants to have sex with
them *g*
Pete B
says...
> Davej wrote:
> > On Dec 13, 10:26 pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e...
> >>
> >> Syfy renews 'Stargate,' 'Sanctuary'
> >
> >
> > lose that stupid British accent and her stupid co-star could stop
> > standing around with his mouth hanging open.
>
> accent would come and go. Sometimes within a single sentence it sounded
> like she's start with the accent, lose it in the middle of the sentence
> and then regain it at the end. Anyone else notice this?
She's stretching her acting muscle ;)
Pete B
i_m...@yahoo.ca says...
> >> Actually, that's her natural accent. She's a brit.
> >>
> > Who moved to Canada at age 3. So I'd say its not her natural accent.
>
> Moving to Canada doesn't mean her parents stopped speaking with a
> British accent. It's one she grew up with. (I'm assuming her accent on
> the show is the same as her parents'.)
I'm assuming its the best faux yankeey imitation of received
pronunciation she is able to do - I seem to remember the English think
its terrible as well.
Pete B
@nospamlycos.com says...
Another is the laugh track.... no wait, that's me...
Thanatos
> > She wouldn't have an English accent if raised in Canada. Her
> > accent on Sanctuary is annoyingly fake. It's one of the reasons
> > I can't stand the show.
I remember when LOST first premiered, there was quite a bit of criticism
about how "fake" Emilie de Ravin's Australian accent was and how lame
the producers were for not being able to find an actress who could do
one decently.
Of course de Ravin *is* Australian, born-and-raised, so her accent was,
by definition, as authentic as it gets. I guess in some people's
simplistic minds, everyone in Australia sounds like Crocodile Dundee,
and if they don't, then their accent must be fake. No awareness of the
fact that accents vary widely within a country, and even within cities.
Wouldn't be surprised if there's a bit of that going on here with
Tapping as well.
Gisele
news:2vufi5d3nkl8dh0uo...@4ax.com:
> I'll tell you a secret about most of the English actors you've
> heard. Their accents are as fake as they would be if they were
> American.
I'm talking about English shows (or British shows); so you mean
to tell me they're faking their own accents? I'm not talking the
high brow fancy accents; just normal English folk. Well, let's
say as normal as you can find when it comes to actors....<g>
I'm thinking shows like "Torchwood", "Are you being served",
"Keeping up Appearances", etc.
Gisele
Gisele
> Yeah, I'm always suspicious when people who aren't from a given
> country claim that someone else's replication of an accent from
that
> country is bad.
Well, when you've heard someone speak a certain way for 10 years,
it's hard to listen to (and believe) a different accent,
especially when it sounds so very, very fake. Sorry...
Gisele
Gisele
news:923c47da-5963-47e2...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com:
>> So native speakers have accents that go from inpenatrable to non
>> existant and back again in any given sentence?
> Asked my husband (since I dont' actually watch Sanctuary), he said
> that some shows she seems to "in and out" with the accent, on others,
> she stays on form through the entire episode. Maybe my friends saw
> one/two of those eppies?
That's interesting that she's inconsistent with it. That certainly
doesn't help. I can't watch it regardless because of the accent and the
show is just too focused on monsters; too silly.
> What did you think of Winona Ryder's accent in Dracula?
That was bad too.
Gisele
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:923c47da-5963-47e2...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> So native speakers have accents that go from inpenatrable to non
> >> existant and back again in any given sentence?
> > Asked my husband (since I dont' actually watch Sanctuary), he said
> > that some shows she seems to "in and out" with the accent, on others,
> > she stays on form through the entire episode. Maybe my friends saw
> > one/two of those eppies?
>
> That's interesting that she's inconsistent with it. That certainly
> doesn't help. I can't watch it regardless because of the accent and the
> show is just too focused on monsters; too silly.
I tried to watch, because I loved the whole monster angle. I just
couldn't get into it. Hubby still doesn't forgive me for not
recording the pilot. He got into it without seeing the pilot.
> > What did you think of Winona Ryder's accent in Dracula?
>
> That was bad too.
>
> Gisele
I thought so as well, but in a survey done by some London paper (a
couple of years ago), she was either number one or number two *best*
English accent by a non-native speaker (with Keanu making the worst
list for the same film <smile>). That was by English speakers
(British?).
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> David Johnston <da...@block.net> wrote innews:2vufi5d3nkl8dh0uo...@4ax.com:
I believe that's what he is saying. Most English actors don't use
their 'own' accents. They use what might be called "British
Standard" (like there used to be American Standard, and actors had to
lose Southern, Northeastern, etc., accents). It's why they all sound
pretty much the "same".
Could you imagine trying to understand Cockney (or some of the more
northern Scots)?
Davej
>
> I'm not talking about her natural speaking accent, I'm talking about her
> ability to replicate a British accent thanks to decades of hearing it
> for hours every day at home.
Eh, real or not I'm not fond of it. It just makes her character seem
colder.
Mark Nobles
I remember an interview with Billie Piper about coming back to Dr Who
after she had done a season of "Secret Diary of a Call Girl". It was
hard for her to get Rose's accent right after she had been doing
Belle's "posh accent". Point is, neither of those accents is her native
accent, which I've never heard.
Adam H. Kerman
>I remember when LOST first premiered, there was quite a bit of criticism
>about how "fake" Emilie de Ravin's Australian accent was and how lame
>the producers were for not being able to find an actress who could do
>one decently.
Who said that? She has a very pleasing voice, a lovely face, and a nice figure.
Wouldn't change a thing.
>Wouldn't be surprised if there's a bit of that going on here with
>Tapping as well.
Believe what you like but it's a straw man set up on the basis of "unnamed
persons" who criticized Miss Ravin. I hate when people object to things said
by people they won't name.
I don't find Miss Tapping's accent pleasant. It's not comparable to Miss
Raven's situation as she should and does sound Canadian. We have only
someone's theory that she's mimicking her parents. Some actors sound
natural when doing an accent; she doesn't.
Adam H. Kerman
>And to make it worse/better (depending on point of view)... Two
>British friends have watched episodes of Sanctuary, and they both say
>she sounds like a native speaker, so while it may twitch wrong in some
>ears, to 2 Londoners she sounds perfectly normal/natural.
Ok.
Adam H. Kerman
>And London has a couple of different accents or more anyway. There's
>probably half a dozen different dialects in the whole country, just like
>the US. So there's various forms of 'English accent'.
Half a dozen within a few blocks of the City of London, I expect, and perhaps
hundreds on the island of Great Britain, if not thousands.
It's nothing like the US.
suzee
I didn't want to go overboard with my estimations.
> It's nothing like the US.
Really? There's a lot of regional accents in the US.
Adam H. Kerman
I'd go with your first estimate of half a dozen, which is nothing considering
our population. We can all understand each other. The English cannot.
DJensen
Isn't she supposed to be, sorta?
--
DJensen
steve march
"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote in message
news:hg9926$pm7$9...@news.albasani.net...
There is more variation within the British Isle than geography would
presume. One speculation is that this variation grew from relatively
isolated pre-mass literate communities.
By the time the US got going there was both easy communication and travel
over large distances and the language had become standardized - somewhat
frozen if you will - in written form.
It follows that while the numerous and varied linguistic invasions of the
various parts of Britain - the Roman Latin, mixing with the Angles, the
Norse, the Celts, the Saxons, the Normans, caused variations that the
linguistic polyglot of American mass immigration did not.
shawn
wrote:
Agreed. It's like watching "Dr Who" with David Tennant and then
hearing him speak with his real accent. Very different.
shawn
Oh my.. I watched some show set in modern time where they had a bunch
of people speaking in Cockney. I'm not certain but I believe it was
their real accents and I could only pick up a few words out of each
sentence. I even tried replaying scenes over and over again and it
didn't really help. I had to wonder if the people that lived in
England but weren't exposed to the heavy Cockney accent on a regular
basis understood that accent.
Anim8rFSK
Jim Gysin <jimg...@geemail.com> wrote:
> Anim8rFSK sent the following on 12/15/2009 11:07 AM:
> > In article
> > <4ea0b406-8405-49ae...@g4g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnab...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Dec 15, 3:50 am, mcar...@ozemail.com.au (Edward McArdle) wrote:
> >>> In article <hg7orp$a9...@news.albasani.net>, "Adam H. Kerman"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>>> DJensen <i m...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >>>>> Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> > So native speakers have accents that go from inpenatrable to non
> > existant and back again in any given sentence?
>
> Never talked to a real Scotsman, eh? :)
I tried, but I kept giggling at the hankerchief on his head, and we were
interrupted by this blancmounge . . .
--
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Anim8rFSK
<923c47da-5963-47e2...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com>,
"Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnab...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 15, 10:07�am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <4ea0b406-8405-49ae-8854-f43e2d2a7...@g4g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
> Asked my husband (since I dont' actually watch Sanctuary), he said
> that some shows she seems to "in and out" with the accent, on others,
> she stays on form through the entire episode. Maybe my friends saw
> one/two of those eppies?
Yeah, she varies a lot. You could see an entire ep where it's not a
problem.
>
> What did you think of Winona Ryder's accent in Dracula?
Oh, God, I hate that movie so much, I hate the individual frames of film
it's on, I hate each and every sprocket hole that transports them. I
have no recollection of what her accent was like.
Thanatos
"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> Thanatos <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > I remember when LOST first premiered, there was quite a bit
> > of criticism about how "fake" Emilie de Ravin's Australian
> > accent was and how lame the producers were for not being able
> > to find an actress who could do one decently.
>
> Who said that?
A bunch of people over in the LOST newsgroup. There were whole threads
about it.
> >Wouldn't be surprised if there's a bit of that going on here with
> >Tapping as well.
>
> Believe what you like but it's a straw man set up on the
> basis of "unnamed persons" who criticized Miss Ravin. I hate
> when people object to things said by people they won't name.
No big conspiracy here, chief. It was several years ago. I remember the
threads and the discussions but, not being Rainman, I don't remember the
names of the people who did the criticizing.
> I don't find Miss Tapping's accent pleasant.
I don't find most people with Brooklyn accents pleasant, either.
Pleasing you is not the producer's main goal, I suspect.
> It's not comparable to Miss Raven's situation as she should and
> does sound Canadian.
It's "Miss de Ravin", not "Miss Raven", FYI.
Thanatos
<f237efbd-b3bc-4145...@a10g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
"Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnab...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 15, 4:26�pm, Gisele <ilove...@nospamlycos.com> wrote:
> > "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com> wrote
> > innews:923c47da-5963-47e2...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com:
> >
> > >> So native speakers have accents that go from inpenatrable to non
> > >> existant and back again in any given sentence?
> > > Asked my husband (since I dont' actually watch Sanctuary), he said
> > > that some shows she seems to "in and out" with the accent, on others,
> > > she stays on form through the entire episode. �Maybe my friends saw
> > > one/two of those eppies?
> >
> > That's interesting that she's inconsistent with it. �That certainly
> > doesn't help. �I can't watch it regardless because of the accent and the
> > show is just too focused on monsters; too silly.
>
> I tried to watch, because I loved the whole monster angle. I just
> couldn't get into it. Hubby still doesn't forgive me for not
> recording the pilot. He got into it without seeing the pilot.
>
> > > What did you think of Winona Ryder's accent in Dracula?
> >
> > That was bad too.
> I thought so as well, but in a survey done by some London paper (a
> couple of years ago), she was either number one or number two *best*
> English accent by a non-native speaker (with Keanu making the worst
> list for the same film <smile>).
Kevin Costner's was pretty atrocious in "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves"
also.
Dimensional Traveler
--
"Dude. They've gone fractal."
Adam H. Kerman
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>Thanatos <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>I remember when LOST first premiered, there was quite a bit
>>>of criticism about how "fake" Emilie de Ravin's Australian
>>>accent was and how lame the producers were for not being able
>>>to find an actress who could do one decently.
>>Who said that?
>A bunch of people over in the LOST newsgroup. There were whole threads
>about it.
Thanks for rehashing an old Usenet argument I didn't need to know about.
>>>Wouldn't be surprised if there's a bit of that going on here with
>>>Tapping as well.
>>Believe what you like but it's a straw man set up on the
>>basis of "unnamed persons" who criticized Miss Ravin. I hate
>>when people object to things said by people they won't name.
>No big conspiracy here, chief. It was several years ago. I remember the
>threads and the discussions but, not being Rainman, I don't remember the
>names of the people who did the criticizing.
You know, people spout off on Usenet. That complaint doesn't necessarily
keep them from watching the show. It's not necessarily representative of
the viewing audience.
She's adorable and has a sweet voice. I can recognize an Australian accent
if the speaker grew up in Sydney or Melbourne, but her accent didn't sound
like that. IMDb says she grew up in Mount Eliza, Victoria. My neighbor was
from Australia. As she didn't sound like she was from Sydney nor Melbourne,
I surprised her by guessing correctly that she was from Perth, but that was
just luck on my part as I'd never heard a speaker from there.
>>I don't find Miss Tapping's accent pleasant.
>I don't find most people with Brooklyn accents pleasant, either.
Who does? The Kennedys have horrid accents but it doesn't keep 'em out of
elected office.
>Pleasing you is not the producer's main goal, I suspect.
Thanks for informing me my opinion is worthless. But your theory seems off.
Why would it be a producer's intent to have a lead character, your story's
hero, speak in a harsh accent?
>>It's not comparable to Miss Raven's situation as she should and
>>does sound Canadian.
>It's "Miss de Ravin", not "Miss Raven", FYI.
That sounds utterly silly when not using French honorifics. I don't
refer to von Beethoven, just Beethoven. The lady will have to forgive me.
Adam H. Kerman
>"Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnab...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>On Dec 15, 4:26 pm, Gisele <ilove...@nospamlycos.com> wrote:
>>>>What did you think of Winona Ryder's accent in Dracula?
>>>That was bad too.
>>I thought so as well, but in a survey done by some London paper (a
>>couple of years ago), she was either number one or number two *best*
>>English accent by a non-native speaker (with Keanu making the worst
>>list for the same film <smile>).
>Kevin Costner's was pretty atrocious in "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves"
>also.
I wonder if Australians approve of Mel Gibson's accent in "Mad Max"?
Some of his early years were spent in America. He's difficult to
understand in that movie.
Adam H. Kerman
>Agreed. It's like watching "Dr Who" with David Tennant and then
>hearing him speak with his real accent. Very different.
I've heard him interviewed. What's wrong with his natural speaking voice?
He should have used it when playing The Doctor.
steve march
"Thanatos" <atr...@mac.com> wrote in message
news:atropos-B7EBBF...@news.giganews.com...
Considering he wasn't speaking with an accent...
shawn
Nothing is wrong with his normal speaking voice. It's just that the
accent he has when speaking normally is very different from the voice
he used when playing the Doctor. I see it as a good example of how
actors in the UK will tend to try for that standard British accent
instead of using their own accent.
Thanatos
"steve march" <sma...@home.ca> wrote:
He was certainly doing something out of the norm for his normal speaking
voice. If it wasn't an attempt at an accent, then it was even more
ridiculous, whatever it was.
Adam H. Kerman
I have heard Galleyfreans speak English before. He did a rotten job of it.
Thanatos
"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> Thanatos <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
> >"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>Thanatos <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >>> I remember when LOST first premiered, there was quite a bit
> >>> of criticism about how "fake" Emilie de Ravin's Australian
> >>> accent was and how lame the producers were for not being able
> >>> to find an actress who could do one decently.
>
> >> Who said that?
>
> > A bunch of people over in the LOST newsgroup. There were
> > whole threads about it.
>
> Thanks for rehashing an old Usenet argument I didn't need to
> know about.
Your comment assumes that I'm even remotely concerned about what you do
and do not need to know about. Rest assured, chief, I'm not. Not
everything is about you and making you happy. Hope that clears that up
for you.
> >>>Wouldn't be surprised if there's a bit of that going on here with
> >>>Tapping as well.
>
> >>Believe what you like but it's a straw man set up on the
> >>basis of "unnamed persons" who criticized Miss Ravin. I hate
> >>when people object to things said by people they won't name.
>
> > No big conspiracy here, chief. It was several years ago. I
> > remember the threads and the discussions but, not being Rainman,
> > I don't remember the names of the people who did the criticizing.
>
> You know, people spout off on Usenet.
You would know.
> She's adorable and has a sweet voice.
Neither of which has anything to do with whether her accent is or sounds
authentic.
> >>I don't find Miss Tapping's accent pleasant.
>
> >I don't find most people with Brooklyn accents pleasant, either.
>
> Who does? The Kennedys have horrid accents but it doesn't keep
> 'em out of elected office.
It doesn't stop TV producers from putting people on TV with Brooklyn
accents, either.
> >Pleasing you is not the producer's main goal, I suspect.
>
> Thanks for informing me my opinion is worthless.
No problem. Everyone needs a dose of reality every now and then.
> Why would it be a producer's intent to have a lead character,
> your story's hero, speak in a harsh accent?
It worked for Arnold Schwarzengger.
> >>It's not comparable to Miss Raven's situation as she should and
> >>does sound Canadian.
>
> >It's "Miss de Ravin", not "Miss Raven", FYI.
>
> That sounds utterly silly when not using French honorifics. I don't
> refer to von Beethoven, just Beethoven. The lady will have to
> forgive me.
It's her name. She decides what's proper and what isn't, not you.
And in any event, honorific or not, it's Ravin, not Raven.
Adam H. Kerman
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>Thanatos <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>Thanatos <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>I remember when LOST first premiered, there was quite a bit
>>>>>of criticism about how "fake" Emilie de Ravin's Australian
>>>>>accent was and how lame the producers were for not being able
>>>>>to find an actress who could do one decently.
>>>>Who said that?
>>>A bunch of people over in the LOST newsgroup. There were
>>>whole threads about it.
>>Thanks for rehashing an old Usenet argument I didn't need to
>>know about.
>Your comment assumes that I'm even remotely concerned about what you do
>and do not need to know about. Rest assured, chief, I'm not. Not
>everything is about you and making you happy. Hope that clears that up
>for you.
People tend to win arguments when the other party isn't present. I wish
you congratulations on your victory. You should take great pride in your
accomplishment.
>>>>>Wouldn't be surprised if there's a bit of that going on here with
>>>>>Tapping as well.
>>>>Believe what you like but it's a straw man set up on the
>>>>basis of "unnamed persons" who criticized Miss Ravin. I hate
>>>>when people object to things said by people they won't name.
>>>No big conspiracy here, chief. It was several years ago. I
>>>remember the threads and the discussions but, not being Rainman,
>>>I don't remember the names of the people who did the criticizing.
>>You know, people spout off on Usenet.
>You would know.
>>She's adorable and has a sweet voice.
>Neither of which has anything to do with whether her accent is or sounds
>authentic.
Dude: You won that argument with "unnamed persons", remember? Drop it now.
>>>>I don't find Miss Tapping's accent pleasant.
>>>I don't find most people with Brooklyn accents pleasant, either.
>>Who does? The Kennedys have horrid accents but it doesn't keep
>>'em out of elected office.
>It doesn't stop TV producers from putting people on TV with Brooklyn
>accents, either.
Are you sure? Much of the time, I hear "Hollywood Brooklyn", so I suspect
that's not an actor born and raised in Brooklyn.
>>>Pleasing you is not the producer's main goal, I suspect.
>>Thanks for informing me my opinion is worthless.
>No problem. Everyone needs a dose of reality every now and then.
Kisses.
>>Why would it be a producer's intent to have a lead character,
>>your story's hero, speak in a harsh accent?
>It worked for Arnold Schwarzengger.
I find his voice comical, but it's not unpleasant.
>>>>It's not comparable to Miss Raven's situation as she should and
>>>>does sound Canadian.
>>>It's "Miss de Ravin", not "Miss Raven", FYI.
>>That sounds utterly silly when not using French honorifics. I don't
>>refer to von Beethoven, just Beethoven. The lady will have to
>>forgive me.
>It's her name. She decides what's proper and what isn't, not you.
From a conversation the two of you had?
>And in any event, honorific or not, it's Ravin, not Raven.
Spelling flame!
suzee
I think there's easily a dozen different accents in the US - there's
probably 6 or more in the NE/Atlantic seaboard alone.
Harold Groot
Enough so that Mel Brooks took a potshot at it in "Men In Tights". <g>
Edward McArdle
<ilov...@nospamlycos.com> wrote:
>David Johnston <da...@block.net> wrote in
>news:2vufi5d3nkl8dh0uo...@4ax.com:
>
>> I'll tell you a secret about most of the English actors you've
>> heard. Their accents are as fake as they would be if they were
>> American.
>
>I'm talking about English shows (or British shows); so you mean
>to tell me they're faking their own accents? I'm not talking the
>high brow fancy accents; just normal English folk. Well, let's
>say as normal as you can find when it comes to actors....<g>
>
>I'm thinking shows like "Torchwood", "Are you being served",
>"Keeping up Appearances", etc.
>
>Gisele
This is from way back, but I always understood that US actors had to adopt
the "Universal accent." Probably not as true today?
--
Edward McArdle