Scott's illegitimate son
Dgilles137
How can you IDOLIZE this SLIMEBALL Scott Bakula. So what did Scott Bakula
the slimeball and the SLUT Chelsea Field name their ILLEGITIMATE son? Now
that we know he has an illegitimate son we know what a slimeball Scott
Bakula is in REAL life....
Julie Jekel
First of all, we don't IDOLIZE him, at least _I_ don't, we
ADMIRE him for his ACTING talents.
>So what did Scott Bakula
>the slimeball and the SLUT Chelsea Field name their ILLEGITIMATE son?
What difference does it make? You make it sound like this
is the child's fault, which it isn't, and it is wrong of you to insinuate
such things.
This isn't exactly uncommon--it happens all the time and not just
in Hollywood. Sure, it's disappointing, but that's why it's a bad
idea to admire famous people for their moral values, because you're
guaranteed a disappointment. But the things I DO admire him for,
that he's a good ACTOR and that he's a NICE guy, haven't changed.
>Now
>that we know he has an illegitimate son we know what a slimeball Scott
>Bakula is in REAL life....
Buying into society's values doesn't make someone a slimeball, just normal,
sadly. You can't judge someone for one wrong choice they make, or
you'd have to consider everyone around you AND yourself a slimeball as
well, because we ALL make wrong choices, and do wrong things. And,
invariably, we all suffer the consequences of those choices.
It's called forgiveness--forgive them for the bad and admire the good.
And I apologize if this came out sounding like a flame or judgemental.
It was not intended as such.
Just MO,
JJ
Susan Pence
Dgilles137 wrote:
>
> How can you IDOLIZE this SLIMEBALL Scott Bakula. So what did Scott Bakula
> the slimeball and the SLUT Chelsea Field name their ILLEGITIMATE son? Now
> that we know he has an illegitimate son we know what a slimeball Scott
> Bakula is in REAL life....
You certainly have some strange ideas of what behavior characterizes a
slimeball. I, on the other hand, believe a slimeball is one who is as
quick to judge others as you seem to be.....
Katya
rha007.tco...@ohsu.edu
In article <4pop3v$d...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> dgill...@aol.com (Dgilles137) writes:
>From: dgill...@aol.com (Dgilles137)
>Subject: Scott's illegitimate son
>Date: 13 Jun 1996 06:04:47 -0400
>How can you IDOLIZE this SLIMEBALL Scott Bakula. So what did Scott Bakula
>the slimeball and the SLUT Chelsea Field name their ILLEGITIMATE son? Now
>that we know he has an illegitimate son we know what a slimeball Scott
>Bakula is in REAL life....
We were all given free will. If we don't all agree what is correct, what is
not, that's not for us to judge (as long as no one gets hurt or killed). Mr.
Bakula ans Ms. Field made the choice to have their child out-of-wedlock. It's
not the child's choice.
Most of us enjoy QL and the characters therein. Mr. Bakula portrayed a
character. His personal life had nothing to do with the characters in the show.
I enjoyed the actors, the plots, and miss having new episodes.
Patricia
Michele Barker
>
> In article <4pop3v$d...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> dgill...@aol.com (Dgilles137) writes:
> >From: dgill...@aol.com (Dgilles137)
> >Subject: Scott's illegitimate son
> >Date: 13 Jun 1996 06:04:47 -0400
>
> >How can you IDOLIZE this SLIMEBALL Scott Bakula. So what did Scott Bakula
> >the slimeball and the SLUT Chelsea Field name their ILLEGITIMATE son? Now
> >that we know he has an illegitimate son we know what a slimeball Scott
> >Bakula is in REAL life....
>
Goodness, that's nasty, isn't it? You make it sound he's a mass-murderer
or something! Anyway, since nobody except Mr. Bakula and Ms.
Field knows all the circumstances, it's nobody's business but theirs, is
it?
I'm afraid you'll be shocked to find that there are a lot of unmarried
parents out there who are really decent people and good parents. And a
lot of married parents who are miserable, both to each other and their
kids. It ain't all black and white--just ask Sam Beckett.
Anyway, I can't presume to judge the situation, but I do appreciate that
Mr. B. is a talented performer who also somehow finds time to use his
talents for good causes (look at all the benefit performances he's
done--"Anyone Can Whistle" for starters), and I admire him for that.
Lighten up a little.
Michele
Steve Poe
DGilles137 sez:
>How can you IDOLIZE this SLIMEBALL Scott Bakula. So what did
>Scott Bakula the slimeball and the SLUT Chelsea Field name their
>ILLEGITIMATE son? Now that we know he has an illegitimate son we
>know what a slimeball Scott Bakula is in REAL life....
Man, you got a lot of hostility, ever think of seein' someone for
that?
--
Steve Poe
I used to think I was indecisive,
now I'm not so sure...
Barbara E. Walton
In a previous article, dgill...@aol.com (Dgilles137) says:
>How can you IDOLIZE this SLIMEBALL Scott Bakula. So what did Scott Bakula
>the slimeball and the SLUT Chelsea Field name their ILLEGITIMATE son? Now
>that we know he has an illegitimate son we know what a slimeball Scott
>Bakula is in REAL life....
>
Boy, I love this. Just really gotta go follow this person around (you all
realize that s/he/it is probably not even stopping back to read the
responses). With a sales pitch like that, s/he/it must get hundreds
of converts every day.
As the child of unwed parents, I've got to say, it's probaby not the
ideal way to go. But slimeball and slut? I don't think so.
--
Barbara E. Walton | It's a dangerous business, going out
<av...@yfn.ysu.edu> | your door. You step into the Road, and
http://freenet.buffalo.edu/~ah329 | if you dont keep your feet, there is no
(quote from Tolkien) | knowing where you may be swept off to.
PMChachich
In article <4pop3v$d...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, dgill...@aol.com
(Dgilles137) writes:
>How can you IDOLIZE this SLIMEBALL Scott Bakula. So what did Scott Bakula
>the slimeball and the SLUT Chelsea Field name their ILLEGITIMATE son? Now
>that we know he has an illegitimate son we know what a slimeball Scott
>Bakula is in REAL life....
Hold on, wait a minute. Just slow down one second. While you are certainly
entitled to your opinion, I think there are a few things that need to be
clarified here. First of all, we (at least myself and I think most others
who read this newsgroup) do not "idolize" Scott Bakula. We admire and
respect him for his enormous talents as an actor and a singer, and for the
fact that by most reports he is a genuinely nice guy. However, we realize
that, just like everyone else, he is not perfect. He's human, just like
the rest of us, and as such is subject to making bad choices just like the
rest of humanity. Having a child out of wedlock may not be the best
decision in the world, but one lapse is certainly not reason enough to
totally condemn him as a "slimeball". Also, unlike many others in this
situation, he appears to be taking responsibility for his actions and has
not turned his back on his child or the child's mother. I believe he
deserves a lot of credit for this, not criticism.
Pat
Michael Grello
In article <4pvhs7$4...@news.ysu.edu>, av...@yfn.ysu.edu (Barbara E. Walton) writes:
|>
|> In a previous article, dgill...@aol.com (Dgilles137) says:
|>
|> >the slimeball and the SLUT Chelsea Field name their ILLEGITIMATE son? Now
|> >that we know he has an illegitimate son we know what a slimeball Scott
|> >Bakula is in REAL life....
|> >
|>
|> realize that s/he/it is probably not even stopping back to read the
|> responses). With a sales pitch like that, s/he/it must get hundreds
|> of converts every day.
|>
|> As the child of unwed parents, I've got to say, it's probaby not the
|> ideal way to go. But slimeball and slut? I don't think so.
|> --
|> Barbara E. Walton | It's a dangerous business, going out
|> <av...@yfn.ysu.edu> | your door. You step into the Road, and
|> http://freenet.buffalo.edu/~ah329 | if you dont keep your feet, there is no
|> (quote from Tolkien) | knowing where you may be swept off to.
What is it you feel he is selling? I saw no product mentioned. Though I must
agree with you that it is a lousy ad for just about anything. I wish Scott and
Chelsea happiness and stability, and for their little one, joy. And I wish
comfort and healing to all involved.
hug a commie for Christ,
Mike <--- the last Jesus freak
voice for the religious LEFT
http://www.scsn.net/users/mgrello/
e-mail:mgr...@scsn.net
Rhodesst
I have read a number of posts speculating on the paternal parentage of
Chelsea's baby and have not yet heard (unless I just missed it) anyone
state that Scott is absolutely for a fact the father of the child. It is
just ASSUMED because he's dating her. Now, I AM NOT saying that Scott is
not the father. I know that it's likely, however, I also know that I DO
NOT know that as a fact and I will not sit in judgement of anyone based on
a bunch of gossip and innuendo. Besides, to quote a phrase, "Let he who
is without sin ......."
Steve
HJKapl
In article <rha007.tcom.bicc....@ohsu.edu>,
rha007.tco...@ohsu.edu writes:
>Mr.
>Bakula ans Ms. Field made the choice to have their child out-of-wedlock.
It's
>
>not the child's choice.
>
>Most of us enjoy QL and the characters therein. Mr. Bakula portrayed a
>character. His personal life had nothing to do with the characters in the
>show.
>
>I enjoyed the actors, the plots, and miss having new episodes.
>
>Patricia
I totally agree with your assessment of the fact that Mr. Bakula's
personal life not having anything to do with our enjoyment of the show.
However, I do disagree with you on a different point. From what I have
been led to believe by a number of sources, Ms. Field's pregnancy was NOT
a planned event. In fact, Mr Bakula was rather taken aback by the
situation, while Ms Field was quite pleased, as she had come to believe
that she was not able to have children because she had tried with her
first husband and had not succeeded. Their relationship, begun AFTER his
marriage had ended, was not a surprise either. That Mr. Bakula had, by
all accounts, actually remained faithful to his wife during their
marriage, was, however, rather remarkable given the era in which we live,
the business he is in, and the town they all live in. It is also not
surprising that Ms. Field successfully pursued Mr. Bakula once his
marriage was over. I would not have expected him to become celibate. That
she was interested cannot be a surprise given their 'bonding' during the
filming of APTK. She certainly knew a good thing when she saw it. I,
along with a great number of females, would have eagerly done the same
thing had we been in her shoes. Now, despite Mr. Bakula's earlier
reservations about the situation, he has 'been there' for her and is
apparently enjoying his new fatherhood. He has not backed away, denied
the child or ignored it all. This certainly says something about him
taking responsibility seriously, and that says a lot about his character.
Sure, to some people out there, he is no longer on a pedestal. They think
this makes him a not so nice guy. Give the man a break! I do not question
his actions, basically because they are none of my business. In a way, I
am pleased at the way he has handled himself during all of this because
given the situation, I cannot suggest anything else that would have been
'righter'. I wish him only happiness, because that's what his work has
always given me. He has always guarded his private life and while I admit
to being curious, I do not think less of him in any way. He only owes his
fans his determination to give the best performance he can give and that
he has always done. If nothing else, everyone should have learned from
Quantum Leap that you should not judge anyone unless you've walked a mile
in their shoes. So those of you with holier than thou attitudes (not you,
Patricia) obviously have not been paying attention.
Helene, the cave dweller, and a Scott fan, yesterday, today and tomorrow
Barbara E. Walton
In a previous article, gre...@majik35.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Michael Grello) says:
>What is it you feel he is selling? I saw no product mentioned. Though I must
>agree with you that it is a lousy ad for just about anything. I wish Scott and
>Chelsea happiness and stability, and for their little one, joy. And I wish
>comfort and healing to all involved.
Obviously, he's trying to sell people his point of view. And he has a
really bad approach to it.
Tom Stone
On Monday, June 17, 1996, PMChachich wrote...
> In article <4pop3v$d...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, dgill...@aol.com
> (Dgilles137) writes:
>
> >How can you IDOLIZE this SLIMEBALL Scott Bakula. So what did Scott
Bakula
> >the slimeball and the SLUT Chelsea Field name their ILLEGITIMATE son?
Now
> >that we know he has an illegitimate son we know what a slimeball Scott
> >Bakula is in REAL life....
>
> Hold on, wait a minute. Just slow down one second. While you are
certainly
> entitled to your opinion, I think there are a few things that need to be
> clarified here. First of all, we (at least myself and I think most
others
> who read this newsgroup) do not "idolize" Scott Bakula. We admire and
> respect him for his enormous talents as an actor and a singer, and for
the
> fact that by most reports he is a genuinely nice guy. However, we
realize
> that, just like everyone else, he is not perfect. He's human, just like
> the rest of us, and as such is subject to making bad choices just like
the
> rest of humanity. Having a child out of wedlock may not be the best
> decision in the world, but one lapse is certainly not reason enough to
> totally condemn him as a "slimeball". Also, unlike many others in this
> situation, he appears to be taking responsibility for his actions and
has
> not turned his back on his child or the child's mother. I believe he
> deserves a lot of credit for this, not criticism.
>
> Pat
>
Amen! I totally agree. Many today do not live up to their
responsibilities. Scott, even though he has made a mistake, is fessing up
to it and doing something about it. That deserves credit.
Stephanie
"Many people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy
denying them."
>
>
>
>
>
>
Michele Barker
Dear Helene,
Besides the nastygram that appeared in this newsgroup about Mr. B. and
Ms. Field, I've read and heard a lot of speculation and absolutely
nothing factual about Bakula/Field/baby situation. Although, naturally,
I've been curious, I also have recognized (as you mentioned in your
posting) that it's not my (or anybody else's) business, and have been
more than willing to give everybody concerned the benefit of the doubt.
After all, one of the reasons I've admired Mr. Bakula is because he's
generally managed to keep his private life private, which doesn't seem to
be an easy thing to do in Hollywood.
Whatever your sources are (it certainly sounds like you know what you're
talking about), I think your discussion of the situation has been the
most enlightening I've seen, and I hope it lays the matter to rest.
Thanks for a clear-headed and open-minded explanation that reinforces my
good opinion of Mr. Bakula.
As you wrote, anyone who claims to be a QL fan and thinks people who have
kids out of wedlock are "slimeballs" and "sluts" obviously hasn't got the
point of what QL is all about. Dgilles 137 ought to remember that, as
someone we all know and love once said, "Even heroes are human."
Happy Leaping,
Michele
Jennifer Ann Kirtley
Umm, TROLL guys, troll.
A reply isn't honesty expected. Don't give one.
Gina Athey
In article <4q4bfs$h...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> hjk...@aol.com (HJKapl)
wrote:
>It is also not surprising that Ms. Field successfully pursued Mr. Bakula
once his marriage was over. I would not have expected him to become
celibate. That she was interested cannot be a surprise given their
'bonding' during the filming of APTK. She certainly knew a good thing
when she saw it. I, along with a great number of females, would have
eagerly done the same thing had we been in her shoes. Now, despite Mr.
Bakula's earlier reservations about the situation, he has 'been there' for
her and is apparently enjoying his new fatherhood. He has not backed
away, denied the child or ignored it all. This certainly says something
about him taking responsibility seriously, and that says alot about his
character.
>Sure, to some people out there, he is no longer on a pedestal. They
think this makes him a not so nice guy. Give the man a break!
>He only owes his fans his determination to give the best performance he
can give and that he has always done.
>If nothing else, everyone should have learned from Quantum Leap that you
should not judge anyone unless you've walked a mile in their shoes.
I agree with you 100%, Helene! Although my husband would debate me on
this until the end of time, I don't "idolize" Scott. Yes, he's great to
look at and appears to be one of the nicest people on the planet, I DO
greatly admire all of his work and wish him, Chelsea, and the baby nothing
but happiness!
Gina
"Still I can't deny, dreams help get me by. Leave me my romantic
notions."
Scott in "Romance/Romance"
Michael Grello
of that we both agree!
Rhodesst
In article <4q4bfs$h...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, hjk...@aol.com (HJKapl)
writes:
> Now, despite Mr. Bakula's earlier
>reservations about the situation, he has 'been there' for her and is
>apparently enjoying his new fatherhood. He has not backed away, denied
>the child or ignored it all. This certainly says something about him
>taking responsibility seriously, and that says a lot about his character.
>
>He has always guarded his private life and while I admit
>to being curious, I do not think less of him in any way. He only owes
his
>fans his determination to give the best performance he can give and that
>he has always done. If nothing else, everyone should have learned from
>Quantum Leap that you should not judge anyone unless you've walked a mile
>in their shoes.
Well put Helene!
Steve
Melanine
> So what did Scott Bakula
>>the slimeball and the SLUT Chelsea Field name their ILLEGITIMATE son?
The California Family Code has been amended to address the issue of
parentage and not legitimacy. I don't propose to get into a discussion of
that here, as that's not the interest of this group, but the purpose of
changing the emphasis of the law was to do away with the concept of
illegitimacy so that children of parents who were not married were not
subjected to any social or legal stigma.
I bring this up only to point out that, whatever Scott Bakula and Chelsea
Field might or might not have done, this baby is an innocent victim (for
want of a better word) of his parents' actions and should not be labeled
illegitimate, bastard (no, the original poster did not call the baby a
bastard -- don't start flaming), or anything else. Like all children
everywhere, he deserves our concern, prayers and wishes for a good life,
as well as anything we can do to make this a better world for him to grow
up in.
As long as I'm at it, to the original poster -- you sound like you're in a
lot of pain, and if so, I'm sorry. I hope you can let go of your anger
soon, as that is the only way you'll get rid of the hurt.
-m
Myrnad
In article <4q3vhr$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, rhod...@aol.com (Rhodesst)
writes:
>I have read a number of posts speculating on the paternal parentage of
>Chelsea's baby and have not yet heard (unless I just missed it) anyone
>state that Scott is absolutely for a fact the father of the child. It is
>just ASSUMED because he's dating her. Now, I AM NOT saying that Scott is
>not the father. I know that it's likely, however, I also know that I DO
>NOT know that as a fact and I will not sit in judgement of anyone based
on
>a bunch of gossip and innuendo.
Well, considering that she was with him in New York in April of 1995, and
that she had the baby some time in November or December, 1995, the fact
that they were together at the Murphy Brown set while she was pregnant,
and the fact that Ms. Field said in a recent article that her "partner" is
a wonderful father, I would say it's a pretty fair bet that the child is
his. I wish the baby, Scott and Chelsea well. Hope they're all happy.
Myrna
Leah Starsky
In <rha007.tcom.bicc....@ohsu.edu>
rha007.tco...@ohsu.edu writes:
>
>Most of us enjoy QL and the characters therein. Mr. Bakula portrayed a
>character. His personal life had nothing to do with the characters in
the show.
>
*all* QL/Scott fans have trouble telling fantasy from reality,
character from actor. From my admittedly limited experience I was
having serious doubts.
However, I do wonder if the very upset person who started this topic is
a former huge fan herself, disillusioned by Scott's descent into
humanness.
Leah
"Sometime lurker and all-time QL fan"
CATHERINE ROPER
Jennifer Ann Kirtley (je...@crl.com) wrote:
:
: Umm, TROLL guys, troll.
:
:
: A reply isn't honesty expected. Don't give one.
Yup, this is a troll, if the guy was really pissed off the words bastard
son would pop up more.
Cate
Julie Barrett
> However, I do wonder if the very upset person who started this topic is
> a former huge fan herself, disillusioned by Scott's descent into
> humanness.
I also wonder if the poster was just one of those flame-bait types.
julie
Michael Dare
Dgilles137 wrote:
>
> How can you IDOLIZE this SLIMEBALL Scott Bakula. So what did Scott Bakula
> the slimeball and the SLUT Chelsea Field name their ILLEGITIMATE son? Now
> that we know he has an illegitimate son we know what a slimeball Scott
> Bakula is in REAL life....
I'm another "slimeball" with an "illegitimate" son. Scott obviously identified
with my plight and made a CBS movie-of-the-week about me called "The
Bachelor's Baby," which will be on this fall. He plays me, and his "slut"
girlfriend Chelsea plays my "slut" girlfriend. They insisted on shooting in LA
so they could be with their "illegitimate" son, whom they love as much as
any parents have ever loved their child, as much as I love my child. Anything
else about his private life, or mine, is none of your business, or the governments.
I'm proud of my life, and suggest you watch this MOW to see that legitimacy has
absolutely nothing to do with parental love.
"We don't need no piece of paper from the city hall keeping us tried and true"
-Joni Mitchell-
Melanine
(Formerly Scott's illegitimate son)
As a firm believer in freedom of speech, I won't presume to say that this
thread shouldn't continue if there are some of you who want to continue
it. But, please, stop calling the baby "Scott's illegitimate son."
The baby doesn't deserve to be caused illegitimate -- his life is as valid
as anyone else's. As I posted earlier, California law has done away with
the term "illegitimate" for children of unwed parents, and in such cases
instead addresses the issue of "parentage," putting the obligations in the
parent/child relationship where it belongs -- on the parents. The law was
changed to remove any stigma from the children, none of whom asked to be
born and who do not deserve to be labeled or penalized. If the California
State Legislature can understand this concept, then anyone with half a
brain should be able to understand it too.
So, if you want to continue talking about the baby, please call him
something else -- Baby, Sweetie-Pie, Infant Botfield, Bakuloid, Irving,
whatever. But calling him illegitimate insults him, and, whatever has
gone on with his parents, the baby doesn't deserve to be insulted.
--- m (getting off my soapbox again)
P.S. As for my comments about the baby, I hope he has his mother's nose
<g>.
Retzkb
>>P.S. As for my comments about the baby, I hope he has his mother's nose
<g>.
Ditto on the nose!
Kathleen Retz
"Hello? Is anybody out there?"
Steve Poe
It wasn't so long ago that illegitimate was the preferred term.
Just an observation.
Ellen101
Helene,
I'd like to come and visit that cave of yours someday. Sure is a lot of
wisdom floating around in there.
Ellen
Ellen101
m,
i loved your post and am partial to Irving the Sweetie-pie. Also am voting
for Mom's nose and Dad's great eyes and white streak.
Melanine
In article <4qmj0t$t0l$3...@mhafc.production.compuserve.com>, Steve Poe
<10223...@CompuServe.COM> writes:
>It wasn't so long ago that illegitimate was the preferred term.
>Just an observation.
>
>
Hi, Steve --
The change in the Family Code was done within the past few years, so it is
recent. But long overdue, IMHO.
-- Mary
Melanine
In article <4qnjhn$o...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, elle...@aol.com (Ellen101)
writes:
>I'd like to come and visit that cave of yours someday. Sure is a lot of
>wisdom floating around in there.
Wisdom? Here?? Where?? Okay, who's the wise guy?!
-- Mary (a recently accepted cave dweller, who so far has noticed only
unbridled lust)
Melanine
In article <4qnk3o$o...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, elle...@aol.com (Ellen101)
writes:
>i loved your post and am partial to Irving the Sweetie-pie. Also am
voting
>for Mom's nose and Dad's great eyes and white streak.
>
>
Sounds like a great start for a good-looking kid -- especially the white
streak. Re: the names, I'm partial to Irving, but then I always was
perverse <g>.
-- Mary
Hilary Bates
elle...@aol.com (Ellen101) wrote:
>m,
>i loved your post and am partial to Irving the Sweetie-pie. Also am voting
>for Mom's nose and Dad's great eyes and white streak.
If he really takes after Dad, he'll have to wait till he's four to get
the white streak! :-)
Hilary
hba...@amgen.com
<><
*** Disclaimer: These are the opinions of the poster not Amgen Inc.***
HJKapl
writes:
Hey, now, wait just a minute. What the heck is wrong with unbridled
lust? Great combo: wisdom and lust. Guess that means we're a bawdy lot
and know just what to do about it! Hey, Scottkins!!! Here, boy.
Helene, who accepts all wise and lusty folk to join her in her cave!!!