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Henry Flam

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Nov 13, 2009, 4:20:14 AM11/13/09
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Recently a friend told me that Harlan Ellison had a small role in an
episode of Babylon 5, the Face of the Enemy. I gave the episode a quick
scan -- I couldn't see him. Can anybody tell me where, in the episode,
does he appear?


Jeffrey Kaplan

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Nov 14, 2009, 11:20:44 AM11/14/09
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Season 4 "Face Of The Enemy". Blink and you'll miss him. Towards the
end of the episode while Bester is monologing at Garibaldi, Harlan is
the other PsiCop shown in the memory.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
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"If I am ever the Hero top 100 list: #82. My guards will be instructed
so that when a voice around the corner says "come here," they will
assume the speaker to be an intruder and respond accordingly.

Mac Breck

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Nov 14, 2009, 11:26:48 AM11/14/09
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FYI: http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/making/actors.html

Harlan Ellison - Sparky the Computer (Ceremonies of Light and Dark)

Harlan Ellison - Voice of Zooty (Day of the Dead)

Harlan Ellison - Psi Cop (The Face of the Enemy)
Near the end (second to last DVD Scene Selection on DVD Season 4 Disc
5.), when Bester is talking to Garibaldi in the Mars Shuttle Car, in one
of the black and white flashback scenes, Ellison is the grey haired Psi
Cop talking to Bester.

--
Mac Breck (KoshN)
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"Babylon 5: Crusade" (1999) - "War Zone"
Galen (to Gideon): "I've been penalized before for helping other
people. I've been trying to decide whether or not I should risk it
again."

Jan

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Nov 14, 2009, 12:56:19 PM11/14/09
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In article <1ZGdnVsgpfTFR2PX...@supernews.com>, Mac Breck says...

>
>Henry Flam wrote:
>> Recently a friend told me that Harlan Ellison had a small role in an
>> episode of Babylon 5, the Face of the Enemy. I gave the episode a
>> quick scan -- I couldn't see him. Can anybody tell me where, in the
>> episode, does he appear?
>
>FYI: http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/making/actors.html
>

That's a great link. Don't think I knew that was even there!

Thanks.
Jan


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Dan Dassow

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Nov 14, 2009, 2:06:44 PM11/14/09
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On Nov 14, 11:56 am, Jan <janmschroe...@aol.com> wrote:
> In article <1ZGdnVsgpfTFR2PXnZ2dnUVZ_gmdn...@supernews.com>, Mac Breck says...

>
>
>
> >Henry Flam wrote:
> >> Recently a friend told me that Harlan Ellison had a small role in an
> >> episode of Babylon 5, the Face of the Enemy. I gave the episode a
> >> quick scan -- I couldn't see him. Can anybody tell me where, in the
> >> episode, does he appear?
>
> >FYI:http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/making/actors.html
>
> That's a great link.  Don't think I knew that was even there!
>
> Thanks.
> Jan
>

Thanks especially go to David Henderson (who compiled the list) and
Steven Grimm (AKA Koreth) our great friend who created and maintains
the "Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5".

Dan Dassow

voxwoman

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Nov 14, 2009, 10:43:09 PM11/14/09
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On Nov 14, 11:26 am, "Mac Breck" <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Henry Flam wrote:
> > Recently a friend told me that Harlan Ellison had a small role in an
> > episode of Babylon 5, the Face of the Enemy. I gave the episode a
> > quick scan -- I couldn't see him. Can anybody tell me where, in the
> > episode, does he appear?
>
> FYI:http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/making/actors.html
>
> Harlan Ellison - Sparky the Computer (Ceremonies of Light and Dark)
>
> Harlan Ellison - Voice of Zooty (Day of the Dead)
>
> Harlan Ellison - Psi Cop (The Face of the Enemy)
> Near the end (second to last DVD Scene Selection on DVD Season 4 Disc
> 5.), when Bester is talking to Garibaldi in the Mars Shuttle Car, in one
> of the black and white flashback scenes, Ellison is the grey haired Psi
> Cop talking to Bester.

He is also one of the dying teeps under the plastic hoods in the
Edgars Industries lab. He's the one who's groaning, and Edgars says
"Put him down. Put them all down"

-Wendy

Jan

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Nov 15, 2009, 12:38:41 AM11/15/09
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In article <f2fc5765-a995-4af9...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>,
voxwoman says...

>
>
>He is also one of the dying teeps under the plastic hoods in the
>Edgars Industries lab. He's the one who's groaning, and Edgars says
>"Put him down. Put them all down"
>

That made me get out my DVDs and check. The groaning teep was a much younger
man and a redhead. Definitely not Harlan.

Henry Flam

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Nov 16, 2009, 3:15:20 AM11/16/09
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In article <k3mtf55h7bbf4qdqm...@gordol.org>,
Jeffrey Kaplan <gor...@gordol.org> wrote:

> Previously on rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated, Henry Flam said:
>
> > Recently a friend told me that Harlan Ellison had a small role in an
> > episode of Babylon 5, the Face of the Enemy. I gave the episode a quick
> > scan -- I couldn't see him. Can anybody tell me where, in the episode,
> > does he appear?
>
> Season 4 "Face Of The Enemy". Blink and you'll miss him. Towards the
> end of the episode while Bester is monologing at Garibaldi, Harlan is
> the other PsiCop shown in the memory.

Thanks to all for the info.


voxwoman

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Nov 16, 2009, 11:14:45 AM11/16/09
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On Nov 15, 12:38 am, Jan <janmschroe...@aol.com> wrote:
> In article <f2fc5765-a995-4af9-963f-3a203f993...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>,

> voxwoman says...
>
>
>
> >He is also one of the dying teeps under the plastic hoods in the
> >Edgars Industries lab. He's the one who's groaning, and Edgars says
> >"Put him down. Put them all down"
>
> That made me get out my DVDs and check.  The groaning teep was a much younger
> man and a redhead.  Definitely not Harlan.
>
> Jan
>
> --
> “Shared pain is lessened; shared joy is increased; thus do we refute entropy”
> --Spider Robinson
>
> Check outhttp://wedreamforjeanne.blogspot.com/for ways to help Jeanne Robinson
> fight cancer.

I am not going to get out my dvd and check (well, maybe later after
lunch), but not only could I have sworn that was Harlan, but ISTR some
mention of that in a commentary? I could be remembering a
hallucination, of course. I thought it was part of the poetic justice
or irony or something that the teep that messed with Garibaldi was a
victim of the Edgars experiments. There were three teeps in that
scene, right? One was a woman.

-Wendy

Joseph DeMartino

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Nov 16, 2009, 2:37:09 PM11/16/09
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On Nov 16, 11:14 am, voxwoman <voxwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am not going to get out my dvd and check (well, maybe later after
> lunch), but not only could I have sworn that was Harlan, but ISTR some
> mention of that in a commentary?

The wonderful thing about a 400-disc DVD jukebox is that you never
have to "get out" a favorite DVD to check it. ;-)

I think you're confating a memory of the teep experiment scene from
"The Exercise of Vital Powers" with the later scene from "The Face of
the Enemy". There is a slight similarity in facial structure between
the "groaning teep" (the red-headed one that Edgars tries to comfort)
and Harlan, especially in the long shots, but it is clearly NOT him.
And the episode doesn't even *have* a commentary track.

"The Face of the Enemy", on the other hand, does have a commentary, by
Mike Vejar and JMS, and they do indeed discuss Harlan's on-screen
guest shot. (And the fact that Walter Koenig and Harlan are old
friends going back to the old "Alfred Hitchcock Presents", when Walter
appeared in one of Harlan's first produced TV scripts.

Regards,

Joe

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