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No mention of the worker caste until 'All Alone in the Night"?

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Ronin and Annie

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Jul 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/7/00
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Did anyone else notice this? Prior to that pivotal episode where Delenn is
brought before the council and stripped of her title of Sattai, only two
castes were ever talked about, the religious and the warrior. The struggle
for dominance was clearly between two factions. It seems weird that even
when Lennier spoke to the senior staff and explained some matters of Minbari
politics and culture he didn't mention it either. What's your take on this?
Obviously 3 times 3 for the council of nine makes perfect sense and balance,
and in 'All alone in the night' we get to see this shift in balance. The
symbolism of the number of course is great too. I'm just curious as to why
no earlier episodes gave any indication of this. I have avidly rewatched the
1st and 2nd season recently and it suddenly struck me as odd. Oversight?
Deliberate change? Or just them uppity religious nuts, and bloodthirsty
warrior types being too self absorbed to acknowledge the hardworking guys
who made the ships and cities etc.


Jms at B5

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Jul 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/7/00
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The worker caste has always had lousy publicists.

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Mark Maher

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Jul 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/7/00
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Ronin and Annie wrote in message
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I'd noticed this, as well. As far as explanations, I'm inclined
to go with your last one, namely that the warrior and religious
castes both considered the worker caste subservient. The Minbari
are nothing if not tradition-bound. The worker caste had only
been put on an equal footing with the other two a thousand years
earlier by Valen. Not a long time in terms of their society.

Even though they are not mentioned in the first season by name,
members of the worker caste are seen frequently during several
first season episodes. Look carefully for Minbari walking around
in yellow-colored utility clothing with overalls. They certainly
look like worker caste to me.

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Gizmo

The Nuclear Marine

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Jul 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/8/00
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Ronin and Annie wrote:

> Did anyone else notice this? Prior to that pivotal episode where Delenn is
> brought before the council and stripped of her title of Sattai, only two
> castes were ever talked about, the religious and the warrior.

Not only that, the worker caste's mascot was Zathros., or was it he is now
wearing their mascot?

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B5 Merlen

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Jul 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/9/00
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>Ronin and Annie wrote:
>
>> Did anyone else notice this? Prior to that pivotal episode where Delenn is
>> brought before the council and stripped of her title of Sattai, only two
>> castes were ever talked about, the religious and the warrior.
>
>Not only that, the worker caste's mascot was Zathros., or was it he is now
>wearing their mascot?
>

Heck. Lennier, in the first season, even forgets that they exist. In the first
season episode "Grail", Lennier tells a guy named Aldous Gajic that there are
two castes; Warrior and Religious.

Take care and stay frosty.
B5Merlen


Iain Clark

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Jul 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/10/00
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"B5 Merlen" <b5me...@aol.com> wrote in message
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But in a nice bit of retro-fitting, the unthinking arrogance of the Warrior
and Religious castes in ignoring the Worker caste actually becomes a bit of
a plot point in Moments of Transition.

Iain

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"Signs, portents, dreams...next thing
we'll be reading tea leaves and chicken entrails."

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