Thread listing those who will be at Phoenix ComicCon

[Amy Guskin]

Hey all,

I keep getting bits of info on various threads, but I wanted to create a
thread JUST for people who are going to the con, so we will know who is going
to be there, how we all might want to hook up at some point, etc. etc.

So, if you will be at the con, please reply, and give whatever details you
want to give. I'll start:

I am arriving on Wednesday, staying through Monday, and will be at the Hyatt.
I am also serving on a panel, "Babylon 5 101," looks like I am scheduled for
the Saturday shift of that one.

(And please, I beg of you, don't use this thread to say "I wanted to go, but
can't because I can't afford it / live too far / have other committments /
etc." Seriously, that kind of stuff has bloated every conversation about the
con that I've seen everywhere, and it makes it unpleasant to wade through to
find who IS going to be there.)

Amy

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[Jan]

I'll be there, arriving Thursday and leaving Monday late afternoon. I'm staying at the Hyatt and I'll be on four panels - the two B5 101 panels, a 'Making of B5' panel and a 'points of departure' panel about the changes in the planed arc to the finished show.

One thing I think it may be important to point out as folks figure out their schedules. JMS has asked for a special panel on Friday 5/24:

<<J. Michael Straczynski: A Special Babylon 5 Panel
Friday: 1:30pm - 2:30pm
Location: 121

JMS asks all Babylon 5 fans to attend this panel to help him keep a very important promise he made nineteen years ago. He can't say anything else other than this one is really kind of important and that you should be there.>>

Looking forward to seeing you there!

Jan

[Andrew Swallow]

Does anyone know what promise JMS made 19 years ago? And to whom?

Andrew Swallow

[Stefan]

At JMS' GEnie (1993/1994) I only found these:

[Nov 25, 1993: JMS about upcoming season one]

"I'd say that n'grath would count as a non-humanoid alien, yes?
(Just keeping an eye on my promises here....)"

Yes. We confirm that one.


[Aug 19, 1994: JMS about season one]

"I think that the point has been made...and the promise kept.
...
I think we've made a little history with this show...
had an effect on how SF Television will be done henceforth,
and brought a "screw 'em, let's go for broke" philosophy
back to the genre, ...
...
[like]
bad guys who do good things and good guys who do bad things,
bathrooms, fasten/zip and lessons in Centauri anatomy, ..."

Doing a very subjective citation <Hehe>

But I suspect: these aren't ment. ;-)
Stefan

--
JMS: "Never Surrender Dreams"

[Charlie E.]

On Sun, 5 May 2013 12:28:06 -0700 (PDT), Jan <janmsc...@aol.com>
wrote:

I will be there, but I don't arrive until Friday, and I have business
till around 3PM. Will stay through Sunday night (staying at the La
Quinta Suites out west...) and have a single panel on "The Great
Machine: The Technology of B5" Sunday morning. Looks like I will miss
his special panel, unless my business wraps up early.

Charlie

[Jay Denebeim]

In article <9sidnba6R6qVuhrM...@bt.com>,

Andrew Swallow <am.sw...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Does anyone know what promise JMS made 19 years ago? And to whom?

We do now. It's why O'Hare left.

Jay
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[Charlie E.]

On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:34:47 +0000 (UTC), dene...@deepthot.org (Jay
Denebeim) wrote:

>In article <9sidnba6R6qVuhrM...@bt.com>,
>Andrew Swallow <am.sw...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>Does anyone know what promise JMS made 19 years ago? And to whom?
>
>We do now. It's why O'Hare left.
>
>Jay

Has anyone else considered that, when Joe said "You have a hole in
your mind!" once again it happened in reality too!

I do not want to be on a show of his, and have my character loose
ANYTHING!

Charlie

[Amy Guskin]

>> On Fri, 31 May 2013 20:06:20 -0400, Charlie E. wrote
(in article <7leiq8t7uoc1doise...@4ax.com>):

> On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:34:47 +0000 (UTC), dene...@deepthot.org (Jay
> Denebeim) wrote:
>
>> In article <9sidnba6R6qVuhrM...@bt.com>,
>> Andrew Swallow <am.sw...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> Does anyone know what promise JMS made 19 years ago? And to whom?
>>
>> We do now. It's why O'Hare left.
>>
>> Jay
>
> Has anyone else considered that, when Joe said "You have a hole in
> your mind!" once again it happened in reality too! <<

Didn't Joe reference this directly during the panel?

Amy
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[Nicole Massey]

"Amy Guskin" <ais...@fjordstone.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.CDCFD270...@news.eternal-september.org...

I couldn't tell you one way or the other. The audio feed for the video
posted here is so boomy I couldn't make out anything being said. And without
any visual cues to get a clue on what he was saying, it's pretty much (boomy
very muffled) Greek to me, with the exception that I know a little Greek.
No one's fault, just the nature of the room.

[Jan]

On Saturday, June 1, 2013 7:05:46 PM UTC-4, Nicole Massey wrote:

>
> I couldn't tell you one way or the other. The audio feed for the video
>
> posted here is so boomy I couldn't make out anything being said. And without
>
> any visual cues to get a clue on what he was saying, it's pretty much (boomy
>
> very muffled) Greek to me, with the exception that I know a little Greek.
>
> No one's fault, just the nature of the room.

Here's my recording of the panel, from almost directly in front of Joe. It's the entire panel but the 'promise' part starts about the 26:30 mark.

https://soundcloud.com/janmschroeder/pcc-promise-panel

Jan

[zof...@deepthot.org]

In article <2ec1e73d-2ec2-4a7a...@googlegroups.com>,

Thanks Jan! I was about to post your audio for Nicole. There's also
a video of the big panel with decent audio (well, I think it is)
http://youtu.be/0w2pK_uBpXQ

Cheryl

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*We stand between the darkness and the light. ---JMS *

[Nicole Massey]

"Jan" <janmsc...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:2ec1e73d-2ec2-4a7a...@googlegroups.com...

A couple of questions.

First off JMS talks about registering, and he says something like if he
didn't belong here would he dress like he was. What was he wearing that got
such a laugh?
The moderator also asked him a really dumb question about if SF/F was told
out of possible stories, and he did something, possibly a look or something.
What did he do or what was his look before he asked if he was being set up?
Was the red head in question from the first fan questioner Pat Tallman?
After the story about the "pupbari" and Lennier, something happens where the
audience says, Oh..." What happened? And what did Joe say after that,
because the audience sort of drowned him out there?

This was a much better recording of the session. Thanks for sending me the
link.

[Nicole Massey]

<zof...@deepthot.org> wrote in message news:kola49$6bh$2...@dent.deepthot...

> In article <2ec1e73d-2ec2-4a7a...@googlegroups.com>,
> Jan <janmsc...@aol.com> wrote:
>>On Saturday, June 1, 2013 7:05:46 PM UTC-4, Nicole Massey wrote:
>>
>
>>> I couldn't tell you one way or the other. The audio feed for the
>>> video posted here is so boomy I couldn't make out anything being
>>> said. And without any visual cues to get a clue on what he was
>>> saying, it's pretty much (boomy very muffled) Greek to me, with the
>>> exception that I know a little Greek.
>
>>>
>>> No one's fault, just the nature of the room.
>>
>>Here's my recording of the panel, from almost directly in front of Joe.
>>It's the entire panel but the 'promise' part starts about the 26:30
>>mark.
>>
>>https://soundcloud.com/janmschroeder/pcc-promise-panel
>
> Thanks Jan! I was about to post your audio for Nicole. There's also
> a video of the big panel with decent audio (well, I think it is)
> http://youtu.be/0w2pK_uBpXQ

Okay, folks, ignore my other question, as I now know about Joe's
retribution.

It never ceases to amaze me that such a small word can convey so much
emotion. There are vast universes of amazement and joy encapsulated in three
letters. But sometimes nothign else really conveys the scope and range of
the feeling like the one word -- wow.

That was amazing. It makes me wish even more that I could have been there.
It also makes me miss that Joe isn't here anymore.

[Jan]

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 6:45:21 PM UTC-4, Nicole Massey wrote:
>
> Was the red head in question from the first fan questioner Pat Tallman?
>

Yes, Pat was sitting off to the side of the room. The questioner was trying to be cutesy (gag) and get JMS to say something about he and Pat being a couple. Which, I gather they *did* date for a while but aren't any longer and remain partners in StudioJMS only.

'Fraid I can't answer the rest of your questions at the moment without watching the video again. Maybe some of the rest of the gang can?

Jan

[Nicole Massey]

"Jan" <janmsc...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:41de4ed4-9ea9-43bd...@googlegroups.com...

---
Thanks.

Was that you saying that they need to get a new moderator after the cutesy
question? (Which I found annoying, too -- it's rare that we get Joe at
conventions, and another one this momentus is five years off, so wasting
time with a non-question is annoying)

[Jan]

On Friday, June 7, 2013 3:42:12 PM UTC-4, Nicole Massey wrote:
> ---
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Was that you saying that they need to get a new moderator after the cutesy
>
> question? (Which I found annoying, too -- it's rare that we get Joe at
>
> conventions, and another one this momentus is five years off, so wasting
>
> time with a non-question is annoying)

I think that may have been Amy. She was sitting directly behind me. In fact, she gave her seat to me when she moved back a row since I'm nice and short and wouldn't obstruct her view.

Moderators were kind of an issue all weekend. I seem to recall reading that it's the con's policy to have a moderator available and I genuinely think that they were trying to give JMS the respect due him. But they just didn't understand that JMS is used to just being with the fans, not being a VIP. That said, the cutesy question from that fan wasn't their fault at all. That would have happened no matter what, I think. The main issue with that particular moderator was that he didn't simply meet JMS when he came in and ask him how he wanted things done.

Jan

[Nicole Massey]

"Jan" <janmsc...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:83741e04-4291-4141...@googlegroups.com...

---
Ah, okay, so now I have a vocal tone to associate with Amy, maybe.
All in all it was a couple of good panels. Jerry Doyle obviously still has
his wisdom teeth...

[Matthew Vincent]

On Monday, 6 May 2013 15:44:05 UTC+12, Andrew Swallow wrote:

>Does anyone know what promise JMS made 19 years ago? And to whom?

I'd love to know this. The big question I have is whether it pertains to disclosing information about real-life social issues. If it does, I'd appreciate being informed (mbv10-AT-NO$PAMMMM-uclive.ac.nz). In about 1994 or thereabouts, JMS said that he was considering addressing one real-life social issue in particular, but he didn't say what it was.

The Shadows. There are two things I can think of.

Matthew

[Amy Guskin]

>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 18:55:12 -0400, Jan wrote
(in article <83741e04-4291-4141...@googlegroups.com>):

> On Friday, June 7, 2013 3:42:12 PM UTC-4, Nicole Massey wrote:
>> ---
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Was that you saying that they need to get a new moderator after the cutesy
>>
>> question? (Which I found annoying, too -- it's rare that we get Joe at
>>
>> conventions, and another one this momentus is five years off, so wasting
>>
>> time with a non-question is annoying)
>
> I think that may have been Amy. She was sitting directly behind me. In
> fact, she gave her seat to me when she moved back a row since I'm nice and
> short and wouldn't obstruct her view. <<

Now, hold on just one second. I may have given up my seat to you because I am
nice, but it was NOT because you wouldn't obstruct my view. I am a mere 5
feet and 1/2 of one inch!

As to whether it was me who said it or not, I'll have to listen to the
recording, but I don't specifically recall saying it.

Amy

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[Amy Guskin]

>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:12:42 -0400, Amy Guskin wrote
(in article <0001HW.CDE869FA...@news.eternal-september.org>):

Yes, that was me. :-)

Amy
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[Amy Guskin]

>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 23:35:51 -0400, Nicole Massey wrote
(in article <kou8u1$sna$1...@news.albasani.net>):

> Ah, okay, so now I have a vocal tone to associate with Amy, maybe. <<

You have never heard any Bah & the Humbugs' songs or podcasts before? There
is so much free stuff here:

http://bahandthehumbugs.com

but only if you have a good, healthy, irreverent sense of humor!

>> All in all it was a couple of good panels. Jerry Doyle obviously still has
> his wisdom teeth... <<

When I spoke with him one on one a couple of times over the weekend, I liked
him immensely, but I do have some issues with the things he said at the
reunion panel...

Amy


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[Amy Guskin]

>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 02:27:09 -0400, Matthew Vincent wrote
(in article <885a2aba-7cd7-439c...@googlegroups.com>):

Nope. It was a promise to Michael O'Hare, and it was about his grave problems
with mental illness that caused him to have to leave the series. You should
watch this if you want to hear the whole story from JMS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yjOsaa7XL4

Amy
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[Nicole Massey]

"Amy Guskin" <ais...@fjordstone.com> wrote in message

news:0001HW.CDE8D94F...@news.eternal-september.org...

Yes, that was what I was referring to -- the comment about having his wisdom
teeth came from something a friend of mine at college once said -- she said,
"I still have my wisdom teeth, which is why I'm such a smart mouth."

[Amy Guskin]

>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:28:28 -0400, Nicole Massey wrote
(in article <kpvvqb$keh$1...@news.albasani.net>):

Heh. Yeah, I guessed it was something like that. Tee and hee.

Amy
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[ne...@news.bbs.geek.nz]

From: dene...@deepthot.org (Jay Denebeim)

In article <9sidnba6R6qVuhrM...@bt.com>,

Andrew Swallow <am.sw...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Does anyone know what promise JMS made 19 years ago? And to whom?

We do now. It's why O'Hare left.

Jay

[ne...@news.bbs.geek.nz]

From: Stefan <col...@yahoo.com>

On May 6, 5:44 am, Andrew Swallow <am.swal...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> On 05/05/2013 20:28, Jan wrote:

> > I'll be there, arriving Thursday and leaving Monday late afternoon.  I'm
staying at the Hyatt and I'll be on four panels - the two B5 101 panels, a
'Making of B5' panel and a 'points of departure' panel about the changes in the
planed arc to the finished show.
>
> > One thing I think it may be important to point out as folks figure out
their schedules.  JMS has asked for a special panel on Friday 5/24:
>
> > <<J. Michael Straczynski: A Special Babylon 5 Panel
> > Friday: 1:30pm - 2:30pm
> > Location: 121
>
> > JMS asks all Babylon 5 fans to attend this panel to help him keep a very
important promise he made nineteen years ago. He can't say anything else other
than this one is really kind of important and that you should be there.>>
>
> > Looking forward to seeing you there!
>
> > Jan
>

> Does anyone know what promise JMS made 19 years ago?  And to whom?
>

[ne...@news.bbs.geek.nz]

From: Matthew Vincent <mbvi...@paradise.net.nz>

On Monday, 6 May 2013 15:44:05 UTC+12, Andrew Swallow wrote:

>Does anyone know what promise JMS made 19 years ago? And to whom?

I'd love to know this. The big question I have is whether it pertains to
disclosing information about real-life social issues. If it does, I'd
appreciate being informed (mbv10-AT-NO$PAMMMM-uclive.ac.nz). In about 1994 or
thereabouts, JMS said that he was considering addressing one real-life social
issue in particular, but he didn't say what it was.

The Shadows. There are two things I can think of.

Matthew

[ne...@news.bbs.geek.nz]

From: "Nicole Massey" <ny...@gypsyheir.com>

[ne...@news.bbs.geek.nz]

From: Jan <janmsc...@aol.com>

On Friday, June 7, 2013 3:42:12 PM UTC-4, Nicole Massey wrote:
> ---
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Was that you saying that they need to get a new moderator after the cutesy
>
> question? (Which I found annoying, too -- it's rare that we get Joe at
>
> conventions, and another one this momentus is five years off, so wasting
>
> time with a non-question is annoying)

I think that may have been Amy. She was sitting directly behind me. In fact,
she gave her seat to me when she moved back a row since I'm nice and short and
wouldn't obstruct her view.

[ne...@news.bbs.geek.nz]

From: Andrew Swallow <am.sw...@btinternet.com>

On 05/05/2013 20:28, Jan wrote:
> I'll be there, arriving Thursday and leaving Monday late afternoon. I'm
staying at the Hyatt and I'll be on four panels - the two B5 101 panels, a
'Making of B5' panel and a 'points of departure' panel about the changes in the
planed arc to the finished show.
>
> One thing I think it may be important to point out as folks figure out their
schedules. JMS has asked for a special panel on Friday 5/24:
>
> <<J. Michael Straczynski: A Special Babylon 5 Panel
> Friday: 1:30pm - 2:30pm
> Location: 121
>
> JMS asks all Babylon 5 fans to attend this panel to help him keep a very
important promise he made nineteen years ago. He can't say anything else other
than this one is really kind of important and that you should be there.>>
>
> Looking forward to seeing you there!
>
> Jan
>

Does anyone know what promise JMS made 19 years ago? And to whom?

Andrew Swallow

[ne...@news.bbs.geek.nz]

From: Amy Guskin <ais...@fjordstone.com>

>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 18:55:12 -0400, Jan wrote
(in article <83741e04-4291-4141...@googlegroups.com>):

> On Friday, June 7, 2013 3:42:12 PM UTC-4, Nicole Massey wrote:
>> ---
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Was that you saying that they need to get a new moderator after the cutesy
>>
>> question? (Which I found annoying, too -- it's rare that we get Joe at
>>
>> conventions, and another one this momentus is five years off, so wasting
>>
>> time with a non-question is annoying)
>
> I think that may have been Amy. She was sitting directly behind me. In
> fact, she gave her seat to me when she moved back a row since I'm nice and
> short and wouldn't obstruct her view. <<

Now, hold on just one second. I may have given up my seat to you because I am
nice, but it was NOT because you wouldn't obstruct my view. I am a mere 5
feet and 1/2 of one inch!

As to whether it was me who said it or not, I'll have to listen to the
recording, but I don't specifically recall saying it.

Amy

--
Diligent Moderatrix

[ne...@news.bbs.geek.nz]

From: Jan <janmsc...@aol.com>

[ne...@news.bbs.geek.nz]

From: Jan <janmsc...@aol.com>

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 6:45:21 PM UTC-4, Nicole Massey wrote:
>
> Was the red head in question from the first fan questioner Pat Tallman?
>

[ne...@news.bbs.geek.nz]

From: Charlie E. <edmo...@ieee.org>

On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:34:47 +0000 (UTC), dene...@deepthot.org (Jay
Denebeim) wrote:

>In article <9sidnba6R6qVuhrM...@bt.com>,
>Andrew Swallow <am.sw...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>>Does anyone know what promise JMS made 19 years ago? And to whom?
>

>We do now. It's why O'Hare left.
>
>Jay

Has anyone else considered that, when Joe said "You have a hole in
your mind!" once again it happened in reality too!

I do not want to be on a show of his, and have my character loose
ANYTHING!

Charlie

[ne...@news.bbs.geek.nz]

From: "Nicole Massey" <ny...@gypsyheir.com>

"Jan" <janmsc...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:41de4ed4-9ea9-43bd...@googlegroups.com...

- ---

[ne...@news.bbs.geek.nz]

From: "Nicole Massey" <ny...@gypsyheir.com>


"Jan" <janmsc...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:83741e04-4291-4141...@googlegroups.com...

On Friday, June 7, 2013 3:42:12 PM UTC-4, Nicole Massey wrote:
> ---
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Was that you saying that they need to get a new moderator after the cutesy
>
> question? (Which I found annoying, too -- it's rare that we get Joe at
>
> conventions, and another one this momentus is five years off, so wasting
>
> time with a non-question is annoying)

I think that may have been Amy. She was sitting directly behind me. In
fact, she gave her seat to me when she moved back a row since I'm nice and
short and wouldn't obstruct her view.

Moderators were kind of an issue all weekend. I seem to recall reading that
it's the con's policy to have a moderator available and I genuinely think
that they were trying to give JMS the respect due him. But they just didn't
understand that JMS is used to just being with the fans, not being a VIP.
That said, the cutesy question from that fan wasn't their fault at all.
That would have happened no matter what, I think. The main issue with that
particular moderator was that he didn't simply meet JMS when he came in and
ask him how he wanted things done.

Jan

- ---

Ah, okay, so now I have a vocal tone to associate with Amy, maybe.