(Basically, I said to my boss, "Hey, JMS is a very cool guy, posts
online all the time -- someone ought to contact him and ask for copies
of the scripts." She, naturally, said, "Great idea! Go ahead!" LOL
Serves me right. However, I am NOT gonna just e-mail the man. Nuh-uh.)
Anyway, does anyone have suggestions as to where the best, most
authentic sites would be for verifying things like spellings of
names/places etc? Someone who might have had access to those scripts
and would therefore have it for-sure right? I'd REALLY like us to get
this stuff right.
Thanks,
Cynthia Delmar, Senior Caption Editor
National Captioning Institute
Burbank, CA
>Anyway, does anyone have suggestions as to where the best, most
>authentic sites would be for verifying things like spellings of
>names/places etc?
I'd go with Lurkers
http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/lurker.html
Guide to the first episode lives here
http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/us/guide/001.html
And may I be the first to say - Thank You! and Hurray!
You've just made a ton of peoples weekends by posting this.
Posted & emailed.
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I'd be more than happy to verify this stuff for you. Just send me the
episodes on disc as you finish them and I'll get right on it. <g>
Slightly more seriously, there's always "The Lurker's Guide to BABYLON
5", which is probably the best "B5" info site.
http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/lurker.html
And, in all seriousness, feel free to send me anything you're not sure
of via e-mail at NOSPAMj...@bellsouth.net (Just remove the NOSPAM
from the link.) I am only working part time at the moment (somebody
forgot to tell people hereabouts that the recession is over) and have
way too much time on my hands. After four years of lobbying Warner
Bros. to get the DVDs released, it would be a real kick if I could
contribute in some small way to their quality.
Regards,
Joe
>I work for the company doing the closed-captioning of Babylon 5 for
>DVD release. We are reformatting the captions from the original files,
>which were mostly done without scripts. We have the first six episodes
>here already (I'll be doing 1 & 2 myself tomorrow) but alas, still no
>scripts.
Not that I'm complaining about this bit of news, and I am really
not trying to jinx this, but recalling JMS's cryptic post regarding
the news of DVDs:
JMS> There's nothing that I can share at this time that would not
JMS> preclude others in the food chain from doing the same on this
JMS> subject.
either:
This is a hoax (well, it may be lunchtime somewhere in the world,
but it ain't april anywhere)
OR
The studio heads has had their thunder stolen (the best laid plans...)
Please, please let it be the latter.
(Hey, maybe someone can ask really nicely about the transfer, extras,
and all that *grin*)
On another point, would anyone else offer to do the captions for B5 for
nothing (well, maybe room and board). Perhaps we should tell Cynthia
to watch it in order, and not to skip around the episodes? Who knows,
we may get a new fan?
Chuen Chan c.c...@uq.net.au
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the proper postulates... Postulates are based on assumption and adhered
to by faith. Nothing in the Universe can shake them.' I. Asimov
"Cynthia" <cde...@ncicap.org> wrote in message
news:a96ff9de.02060...@posting.google.com...
-Brian
>The studio heads has had their thunder stolen (the best laid plans...)
Methinks they've had their thunder stolen. <g>
Her e-mail address works, she's responded to me.
http://www.ncicap.org/
Is the National Captioning Institute.
The jollies I'm getting right now is that it looks like DVD is for real....
Yeah, it's real...I was holding off saying anything until WB or someone else
could announce it, but since it's come up here via the captioning
institute...yeah, as noted, it's real.
Season One will be out in a boxed set this Fall, and they're going to be
including at minimum two commentaries from me, probably on Signs and Portents
and Chrysalis (it's a matter of how much time and energy I can give to it given
that there's no fees involved and I'm in the midst of Jeremiah), and if
possible, Babylon Squared, maybe Sky Full of Stars. They'd also like to film
an on-camera intro by me (but I guess folks will buy it anyway, even with that
particular horror included).
They're pulling together a lot of stuff on this release so that there are
plenty of extras this time around, now that the value of the DVDs has been
shown by the first release
.
jms
(jms...@aol.com)
(all message content (c) 2002 by synthetic worlds, ltd.,
permission to reprint specifically denied to SFX Magazine
and don't send me story ideas)
<,Season One will be out in a boxed set this Fall, and they're going to be
including at minimum two commentaries from me, probably on Signs and Portents
and Chrysalis (it's a matter of how much time and energy I can give to it given
that there's no fees involved and I'm in the midst of Jeremiah), and if
possible, Babylon Squared, maybe Sky Full of Stars. They'd also like to film
an on-camera intro by me (but I guess folks will buy it anyway, even with that
particular horror included).>>
YYYIIIPPPEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan
>I work for the company doing the closed-captioning of Babylon 5 for
>DVD release. We are reformatting the captions from the original files,
>which were mostly done without scripts. We have the first six episodes
>here already (I'll be doing 1 & 2 myself tomorrow) but alas, still no
>scripts.
>
WOOHOO! (unoffically, of course...)
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> and Chrysalis (it's a matter of how much time and energy I can give to it given
> that there's no fees involved and I'm in the midst of Jeremiah), and if
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Do you take MasterCard?
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Reed
Much rejoicing!
As for the intro, we'd love to hear your thoughts on B5 - no horror there. We
saw you at least once in Sleeping in Light - the camera doesn't hate you, Joe.
(Now I'm reminded of a classic Animaniacs toon - paraphrased: (german accent)
"Repeat after me: The camera doesn't hate me. The camera is NOT a big
schpider..."
And I'm relieved they're not skimping on extras (although they should pay you
*something*...) I'd feared the eventual sets to have a "poor cousin" quality
about them, compared to releases for other shows...
Have they decided on aspect ratio?
Thanks again!
Walter R. White
Widescreen.
jms
>>The jollies I'm getting right now is that it looks like DVD is for real....
>
>Yeah, it's real...I was holding off saying anything until WB or someone else
>could announce it, but since it's come up here via the captioning
>institute...yeah, as noted, it's real.
>>
Wooohoo!!!
>Season One will be out in a boxed set this Fall, and they're going to be
>including at minimum two commentaries from me, probably on Signs and Portents
>and Chrysalis (it's a matter of how much time and energy I can give to it given
>that there's no fees involved and I'm in the midst of Jeremiah), and if
>possible, Babylon Squared, maybe Sky Full of Stars. They'd also like to film
>an on-camera intro by me (but I guess folks will buy it anyway, even with that
>particular horror included).
Just keeps getting better...
>They're pulling together a lot of stuff on this release so that there are
>plenty of extras this time around, now that the value of the DVDs has been
>shown by the first release
>.
And better...
And widescreen too!!!
My bank is going to hate me!
Any idea of the release schedule for the rest of the seasons?
Christian
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Tammy
B5 New Beginnings
http://hometown.aol.com/tlsmith1963/myhomepage/babylon5.html
Any chance of comentaries by any of the other writers? Or some of the
cast or crew?
>Perhaps we should tell Cynthia to watch it in order, and not to skip
>around the episodes? Who knows, we may get a new fan?
Um, judging by the fact that she knew to post here and she called Joe,
Joe, I'd say you're a little late. She's already a fan.
Jay
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>>Have they decided on aspect ratio?
>>
>
>Widescreen.
My question: True widescreen? The DVD of "The Gathering" and "In the
Beginning" that we have is cropped at the top and bottom. I.e. -
there are bits that are missing. I don't want the episodes with
things missing. But if it is *true* widescreen, I'm there!
Sue
I'm there, regardless, if only for the extras.
Mac Breck
------------------------
http://www.scifi.com/crusade/ http://www.b5lr.com/
"Nothing much good on TV tonight anyway." (Captain Gideon, Babylon 5
Crusade - The Memory of War)
They're not paying you, ...anything? ???
> and I'm in the midst of Jeremiah), and if
> possible, Babylon Squared, maybe Sky Full of Stars. They'd also like to
film
> an on-camera intro by me (but I guess folks will buy it anyway, even with
that
> particular horror included).
>
> They're pulling together a lot of stuff on this release so that there are
> plenty of extras this time around, now that the value of the DVDs has been
> shown by the first release
> .
>
> jms
>
> (jms...@aol.com)
> (all message content (c) 2002 by synthetic worlds, ltd.,
> permission to reprint specifically denied to SFX Magazine
> and don't send me story ideas)
Regarding the extras, YAY!!!!!!! :-)
I think a commentary track by Jerry Doyle would be most entertaining.
It would also be great in the guys from Foundation Imaging could have
a commentary track.
Little bit of a stutter there, Joe?
Anyway, I hope I don't need to ask if the episodes are in ANAMORPHIC widescreen.
Between B5 and the Star Trek: TNG boxes, I'm going to need to float a
second mortgage this fall.
Too bad I don't own a house.
Judging from the Roughnecks: The Starship Troopers DVDs they'd certainly
be willing.
Personally, I'd love to see Larry DiTillio do a couple.
Oh, yeah. One other question.
What about the sound? Will they make me happy (and my neighbors mad)
and give me Babylon 5 in Dolby Digital 5.1?
It is all about me, of course.
> I am only working part time at the moment (somebody
> forgot to tell people hereabouts that the recession is over) and have
> way too much time on my hands.
Sorry to hear. I was out of work for the first quarter of last year,
so I know a little of what you speak.
Unfortunately "the recession is over" only means that we've stopped
going backwards. It doesn't NECESSARILY imply forward motion yet.
The job market is usually the slowest to recover. These companies
that are so quick to cut people loose are usually pretty gun shy about
hiring again, but that will change with time.
I just wish that these companies would realize that hiring and
retraining are usually a hell of lot more expensive than biting the
bullet and standing by their employees through rough times.
Best of luck.
Tammy
PS--I would *love* to see the bloopers included with the B5 DVDs!
BoredGuy
They're currently investigating all possibililties.
No. It's WB's policy that they don't pay to have people do commentaries. The
problem here is that there's so *much* that they want...an on-camera interview,
two to four full commentaries, and further analyses on the races, technologies,
politics, all that stuff...it's a huge amount of work. But their response was
that if it wasn't done for free, across the board, they'd just deliver a
foreshortened version, little to no extras, no publicity, little to nothing
without my commentary, which they feel is essential to the set. Rather than
have a lesser version go out to the fans, I figured I'd just bite the bullet
and do it.
The sound is being remastered to 5.1.
The only things that I'm aware of that were cropped in those were the CGI and
composite scenes, since we can't go back and re-render all that stuff.
"Can't" because the materials, that would be needed to do a re-render
(whatever those are, I don't know), are gone (misplaced, thrown out, or
destroyed), ..*or*.. because there is no time and/or no money to do the
re-render?
Mac Breck
------------------------
http://www.scifi.com/crusade/ http://www.b5lr.com/
"Nothing much good on TV tonight anyway." (Captain Gideon, Babylon 5
Crusade - The Memory of War)
>
Reminds me of a line that a soul hunter once said to Sinclair about Delenn
and the Minbari. Three words, and you know what they are.
> Rather than
> have a lesser version go out to the fans, I figured I'd just bite the
bullet
> and do it.
Thanks. I appreciate it. It'll be the main reason for me buying all the
DVD sets.
Mac Breck
------------------------
http://www.scifi.com/crusade/ http://www.b5lr.com/
"Nothing much good on TV tonight anyway." (Captain Gideon, Babylon 5
Crusade - The Memory of War)
>Season One will be out in a boxed set this Fall, and they're going to be
[snip]
Abso-fraggin-lutely wonderful!
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>I figured I'd just bite the bullet
>and do it.
Well done. Personally, I think it's effing cheeky of a company like WB
that's already made a lot of money from B5 *not* to give something
back to those people giving up their time, but there you go. That's
Hollyweird for you :-)
Paul.
--
A .sig is all well and good, but it's no substitute for a personality
JMS: "SFX is a fairly useless publication on just about every imaginable front.
Never have so many jumped-up fanboys done so little, with so much, for so long."
But doesn't that mean cropped SFX shots? If I remember correctly only the
live action was shot in WS, the CGI was composed for full frame. Personally
I'd rather sacrifice the live action WS for the majesty of the SFX, since
the performances and writing shine either way, and the full frame live
action doesn't detract from the product at all. My two cents (my $100 or so
to the box set anyway).
Aphelion
> They're pulling together a lot of stuff on this release so that there
are
> plenty of extras this time around, now that the value of the DVDs has
been
> shown by the first release
Yes! Yes! Yes! YES!!!!!!
I've only been lobbying Warner Home Video for this since about 1997,
having written countless letters through I-don't-know-how-many changes
in personnel over there. To finally get "B5" on home video the way it
*deserves* to be seen is something very close to a dream come true.
Most important of all is that fact that they are involving *you* in the
project, the one point I've always stressed above all in my
communications with them. (On the theory that if you were keeping an
eye on things, I'd get everything else I wanted. <g>)
Congratulations. I know this release is going to be even better than
what you'd envisioned when you first talked about an eventual widescreen
collector's edition on laserdisc all those years ago.
Regards,
Joe
Ok...entire season of DVD's... :::check da wallet::: hmm. Need to cut
back something. Cable TV? can't cut that. Broadband internet. Not
that either. Hmm... That leaves gasoline, food, lights, and the A/C
that gotta go. Guess that settles that ;) Now all I need is a high
quality DVD player (not this DVD/toaster oven I got), a 32 in.
Widescreen HDTV (instead of this 20 in 19 year old and once struck by
lighting literally), and Dolby 5.1 surround sound (instead of barely
stereo...the left is starting to go out).
Any idea on Price yet? (crosses fingers for $29.95)
Well, I gotta go find a buyer for one of my kidneys...
How many episodes per disk (and, thus, how many disks per season)?
I'd ask "How much?", but the answer is
- "Too much."
- "NEVER ASK THAT!"
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tm...@us.ibm.com is my work account.
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up to and including this sig!" -- Jukka....@hut.fi (Jukka Korpela)
>Unfortunately "the recession is over" only means that we've stopped
>going backwards. It doesn't NECESSARILY imply forward motion yet.
Who told you that? It's a rumor as far as i can tell. The tech
market is as bad or worse as it's been. NorTel is laying off another
3500 employees, so is IBM, and Lucent is still dying. These are just
companies I've got friends working at.
Yes. He answered this further down the thread.
And then all you need is to plug the player, TV and sound system into a
source of electricity dependent neither on your electric bill nor a
gasoline supply, since you zapped those already. ;-)
I'm very interested in how many episodes per disc. Gotta start
reserving the shelfspace.
Claudia
--
"Even if we never talk again after tonight, please know that I'm
forever changed because of who you are and what you've meant to me,
which - while I do appreciate it - I'd never need a painting of birds
bought at a diner to remind me of." -- Holden, Chasing Amy
curious question - will it be for other regions than R1 too? (It
doesn't matter as long those aren't RCE dvds.)
Thanks.
Manuela
I never said I agreed that the recession was over. It may be "over" in
purely technical terms (i.e. the GDP didn't shrink last quarter) but we're
still a long way from recovery.
And "recovery" will probably NEVER equal the euphoric heights of the late
'90s.
"Jay Denebeim" <dene...@deepthot.org> wrote in message
news:ae335k$k8h$1...@dent.deepthot.org...
If you hear any reports of man arrested for standing naked on his roof
screaming Celtic pagan war chants.... don't worry. I'll be out of jail by
the time season 1 ships.
"Jms at B5" <jms...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20020610153045...@mb-mj.aol.com...
jms
>>
I just want to say THANK YOU JMS!! You could have opted out and not done any
extras, but you care for the fans, THANK YOU!!
> Not that I'm complaining about this bit of news, and I am really
> not trying to jinx this, but recalling JMS's cryptic post regarding
> the news of DVDs:
>
> JMS> There's nothing that I can share at this time that would not
> JMS> preclude others in the food chain from doing the same on this
> JMS> subject.
>
> either:
>
> This is a hoax (well, it may be lunchtime somewhere in the world,
> but it ain't april anywhere)
>
> OR
>
> The studio heads has had their thunder stolen (the best laid plans...)
>
>
> Please, please let it be the latter.
>
> (Hey, maybe someone can ask really nicely about the transfer, extras,
> and all that *grin*)
>
> On another point, would anyone else offer to do the captions for B5 for
> nothing (well, maybe room and board). Perhaps we should tell Cynthia
> to watch it in order, and not to skip around the episodes? Who knows,
> we may get a new fan?
>
> Chuen Chan c.c...@uq.net.au
I promise it's not a hoax! LOL Honestly, the National Captioning
Institute in Burbank is hard at work on the eps. [www.ncicap.org for
you suspicious types *g*] We don't have any "extras," though, just the
episodes themselves. I have no clue as to whether there will be
extras, I'm just a worker bee. Although I'll be sure to let the boss
know how many offers I've had for free QC checks!
And alas, I don't have the luxury of watching them in order, or even
of watching ALL of them that come in, although I intend to watch as
many as I can during dinner breaks, etc. I never watched the show when
it originally aired *hanging head in shame* but as a longtime Chris
Carter/X-Files fan I gained a respect of JMS as a human being (that
rarest of breeds in H'Wood) during the "World on Fire" debacle, which
was when I first lurked on this board. My respect has grown over this
past weekend.
Cynthia
Whoa, jeeze -- am I in duck soup for pre-announcing? You guys won't
rat me out will ya???
The good news is, after himself e-mailed me some info (which was
enormously helpful, thank you!) I talked to the woman who coordinates
our work for Warner. Seems she never ASKED for the scripts, because we
are reformatting the original caption files we did waybackwhen. What
she didn't realize was that we never had the scripts in the first
place, nor Internet access to do research or ask the fans. She is
contacting them to request the scripts, so hopefully we will get
everything right. (I would cringe to admit how many errors were in the
ep I worked on the other night. To say nothing of the fact that at
that time we did not caption verbatim -- we condensed lines into what
would encode in the old, old software. Ugly.)
Believe it or not, captioning ain't as easy as it looks -- despite
being essentially paid to watch TV all day. And without scripts, we
have to go by what we hear, and with a show with created jargon, such
as most scifi shows use, we end up spelling things phonetically. Again
... ugly. I'd much rather have the writers' own version!
And yes, I really do work at NCI and am one of the shop stewards.
Jeeze, you guys must have been burned by a good number of pranksters
-- I'm sorry I stirred that up! But I hope the end product will be
worth the anxiety, if not the wait.
JMS, thank you again. My boss was mighty impressed. There isn't
another client who would have stepped up to the plate the way you did.
I hope our tiny corner of the B5 world can measure up to your
professionalism.
Cynthia Delmar
Senior Caption Editor (really!)
NCI (honest!)