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Psi Corps logo question (Very small spoiler for "TCIM,TCIF")

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Captain Nerd

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Apr 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/24/98
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Very small spoiler for "The Corp is Mother, The Corps is Father"

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Okay, here's a small question about the Psi Corps logo.

The Psi Corps to date has used mostly a Greek motif, what
with the "Psi" character, and the Black Omega Squadron, but now
suddenly the Psi Corps logo appears with a Latin phrase! Now,
this is the future, and maybe by the 23rd century the people in
charge of these things think one ancient language is as good
as the other, but I think there may be a different reason.

What if the perception is that phrases in Latin are more
serious, and so the Psi Corps founders (or at least the
logo designers) picked a Latin phrase to use, without
regard for accuracy? What if it was part of the Earth
Alliance effort at creating "artificial gravitas?"

Cap.
(Latin could be weightier than Minbari...)


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TheFlinx

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Apr 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/25/98
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Captain Nerd <cpt...@access.digex.net> wrote in article
<6hrl88$n...@access4.digex.net>...


Si Hoc Legre Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes.

HFMoon

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Apr 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/25/98
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<< The Psi Corps to date has used mostly a Greek motif, what
with the "Psi" character, and the Black Omega Squadron, but now
suddenly the Psi Corps logo appears with a Latin phrase! Now,
this is the future, and maybe by the 23rd century the people in
charge of these things think one ancient language is as good
as the other, but I think there may be a different reason.>>


Now, you say this like the future would be different than today. You know,
today, where we have universities that have Latin Mottos, a Greek Fraternity
system, a German teaching system. The same places where those same Greek-named
organizations give what are known as "Toga" parties(the Toga being a
thoroughly-Roman style of dress. Even the name is Latin).

Somehow, I think the use of the Latin words for "of the Mother" and "of the
father" as the motto of an organization that uses Greek letters for their
symbols is perfectly acceptable. ;-)
Richard, Euph
<*>
"You can't fight evil with a macaroni duck!!!"
-Arthur

John W Kennedy

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Apr 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/25/98
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> The Psi Corps to date has used mostly a Greek motif, what
> with the "Psi" character, and the Black Omega Squadron, but now
> suddenly the Psi Corps logo appears with a Latin phrase! Now,
> this is the future, and maybe by the 23rd century the people in
> charge of these things think one ancient language is as good
> as the other, but I think there may be a different reason.

I remember a post here only a few days ago explaining all about the
"Latin or Greek letter psi".



> What if the perception is that phrases in Latin are more
> serious, and so the Psi Corps founders (or at least the
> logo designers) picked a Latin phrase to use, without
> regard for accuracy? What if it was part of the Earth
> Alliance effort at creating "artificial gravitas?"

Well, there's something in that, but mixing Latin and Greek in heraldry
isn't all that uncommon to begin with. Sometimes Hebrew gets into the
mix, too.

John W Kennedy

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Apr 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/25/98
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HFMoon wrote:
> Somehow, I think the use of the Latin words for "of the Mother" and "of the
> father" as the motto of an organization that uses Greek letters for their
> symbols is perfectly acceptable. ;-)

Well, actually they mean "to the maternals, to the paternals" or "from
the maternals, from the maternals".

Captain Nerd

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Apr 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/25/98
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In article <199804250516...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
HFMoon <hfm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
[setup for pun deleted]


>
>Now, you say this like the future would be different than today. You know,
>today, where we have universities that have Latin Mottos, a Greek Fraternity
>system, a German teaching system. The same places where those same Greek-named
>organizations give what are known as "Toga" parties(the Toga being a
>thoroughly-Roman style of dress. Even the name is Latin).

I hadn't thought about the German setup of the university system,
but that makes sense. Also, how many of those "toga parties"
were going on before "Animal House!"

>Somehow, I think the use of the Latin words for "of the Mother" and "of the
>father" as the motto of an organization that uses Greek letters for their
>symbols is perfectly acceptable. ;-)

>Richard, Euph


Makes me wonder why no one thought to throw some Sanscrit in
there, somewhere!

Cap.
(Or hieroglyphics...)

Captain Nerd

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Apr 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/25/98
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In article <01bd7006$c9820ce0$c5bbcdcf@veritas>,


TheFlinx <TheF...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>Captain Nerd <cpt...@access.digex.net> wrote in article
><6hrl88$n...@access4.digex.net>...
>>

>> What if the perception is that phrases in Latin are more
>> serious, and so the Psi Corps founders (or at least the
>> logo designers) picked a Latin phrase to use, without
>> regard for accuracy? What if it was part of the Earth
>> Alliance effort at creating "artificial gravitas?"
>>

>> Cap.
>> (Latin could be weightier than Minbari...)
>
>
>Si Hoc Legre Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes.

I wish I could remember enough Latin to know if you liked
the pun! Unless that's an alert to the Narn Bat Squad,
Medical Corp!

Cap.
(It's only been 23 years since I last parsed a Latin
sentence, I don't know why I can't handle the above...)

HFMoon

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Apr 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/26/98
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<< Makes me wonder why no one thought to throw some Sanscrit in
there, somewhere!

Cap.
(Or hieroglyphics...)>>


Hey, at least the Sanscrit would be related to the other two!

(well, maybe not the Latin....)

It's a Myth

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Apr 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/26/98
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Captain Nerd wrote:
>
> In article <01bd7006$c9820ce0$c5bbcdcf@veritas>,
> TheFlinx <TheF...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
(much snippage--sorry, just commenting on this teeny, tiny part)

> >
> >
> >Si Hoc Legre Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes.
>
> I wish I could remember enough Latin to know if you liked
> the pun! Unless that's an alert to the Narn Bat Squad,
> Medical Corp!
>
> Cap.
> (It's only been 23 years since I last parsed a Latin
> sentence, I don't know why I can't handle the above...)

Let's see. I think it's basically, "If you can read this you're
overeducated." I know you can get a sweatshirt with this on it from the
"Signals" catalogue!

--Carol/Myth
aka Carol Zaff

Rat & Swan

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Apr 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/27/98
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Captain Nerd wrote:

> In article <01bd7006$c9820ce0$c5bbcdcf@veritas>,
> TheFlinx <TheF...@yahoo.com> wrote:

An admixture of Greek and Latin just occurs naturally. Note that Psi is
Greek, Psycho is Greek for 'mind, 'corpus' is Latin for 'body' the
Corps in PsiCorps is Latin as well.

> >> What if the perception is that phrases in Latin are more
> >> serious, and so the Psi Corps founders (or at least the
> >> logo designers) picked a Latin phrase to use, without
> >> regard for accuracy? What if it was part of the Earth
> >> Alliance effort at creating "artificial gravitas?"

Actually the 'Psi' letter is standard medical shorthand for 'psycho' as
in '(Psi)-logical evaluation' as written on chart. The letter can be a
stand-in for 'spyche' 'psychological' 'psychiatry' or any word meaning
the mind. For example, if a physician notes on a chart (Psi)Tx. He
means a reccomendation for psychiatric treatments. The use of the
letter gives the Corps a sort of medical slant to the image. I caught
that at once! In addition, the usage of standard hospital charts (yesm
JMS, I *saw* that! Grin!) just NAILS it for me!

> >> Cap.
> >> (Latin could be weightier than Minbari...)

> >Si Hoc Legre Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes.

*cough*!

Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris!


> I wish I could remember enough Latin to know if you liked
> the pun! Unless that's an alert to the Narn Bat Squad,
> Medical Corp!

Well, with sufficient marijuana, any wordplay becomes hysterical... The
Pun is, indeed, mightier than the sward...


> Cap.
> (It's only been 23 years since I last parsed a Latin
> sentence, I don't know why I can't handle the above...)

Were I not in a Parsely frame of mind, I'd garnish your wages... but I'd
have to bet on the greenery, so perhaps I'll merely wager your garnish.

Swan

Oh, and I am NOT the Moderator Swan, I'm the Paul williams character
Swan, so be nice to me or I'll sing... and we don't want THAT...

Well NOW I have to go find Cryil Aldred and figure out the PsiCorps logo
in HIEROGLYPHS! Hph!


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