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Yawgoog

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Aug 28, 2001, 9:35:36 PM8/28/01
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I've read the text on what spoo is (that was fun :), so I must ask....

What is flarn?

And not just "a Mimbari food that looks like tofu." I want details. :)
Animal, vegetable?

Joseph DeMartino

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Aug 29, 2001, 10:12:00 AM8/29/01
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> What is flarn? ... Animal, vegetable? <

Mineral?

Joe


Aisling Willow Grey

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Aug 29, 2001, 11:13:16 AM8/29/01
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According to "Dining on Babylon 5 (Human Edition)," it's a
religious caste dish which contains a mixture of the Minbari
equivalents of tofu, vegetables, spices, eggs, some
breadcrumbs and a couple of ounces of nuts. That, plus
"elaborate sanctification rituals," of course.

Aisling Grey

ReverendVader

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Aug 29, 2001, 11:44:55 AM8/29/01
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>According to "Dining on Babylon 5 (Human Edition)," it's a
>religious caste dish which contains a mixture of the Minbari
>equivalents of tofu, vegetables, spices, eggs, some
>breadcrumbs and a couple of ounces of nuts.

Is that book available in the US yet?

Jason

Jeff Walther

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Aug 29, 2001, 12:44:15 PM8/29/01
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Yawgoog wrote:
>
> I've read the text on what spoo is (that was fun :),
> so I must ask....
>
> What is flarn?

Whatever Lennier can hack up (from his throat) into the bowl, as he
contemplates Sheridan sitting across from Delenn during sacred Minbari
rituals... :-)

Andrea Grieskamp

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Aug 29, 2001, 11:20:03 AM8/29/01
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Yawgoog <yaw...@aol.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 20010828Hi,
Flarn is vegetable Minbari diner, prefered by the religious caste.

for the recipe you need (human edition *g*):
oil, onions, garlic cloves, chilies, masala, tofu, peas (frozen), eggs,
breadcrumbs, almonds, salt and pepper.
the original reciep I can send you privatly, if you want it.
it is very delicious.
More details you'll find in the book "dining on babylon 5".
It is worth.

Yours
Andrea

Gary Morris

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Aug 30, 2001, 12:10:37 AM8/30/01
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> Whatever Lennier can hack up (from his throat) into the bowl, as he
> contemplates Sheridan sitting across from Delenn during sacred Minbari
> rituals... :-)

Then how does Sheridan fix it?

-gm


Aisling Willow Grey

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Aug 31, 2001, 11:00:20 PM8/31/01
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>>Andrea Grieskamp wrote:
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> Yawgoog <yaw...@aol.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 20010828Hi,
> Flarn is vegetable Minbari diner, prefered by the religious caste. <snip> <<


Actually, it isn't strictly speaking a vegetable dish since
it contains temshwee eggs.

Aisling Grey

JBONETATI

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Aug 31, 2001, 2:41:19 PM8/31/01
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He invited Lennier over and told stories about the 'pleasure centers' ritual
and the true meaning of 'Woo-hoo'.

Jan

E. John Roth III

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Aug 31, 2001, 2:24:48 PM8/31/01
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Gary Morris wrote:

Badly

E. John Roth III

SSmith1701

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Sep 2, 2001, 1:22:48 PM9/2/01
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>From: Aisling Willow Grey ais...@fjordstone.com

>According to "Dining on Babylon 5 (Human Edition)," it's a
>religious caste dish which contains a mixture of the Minbari
>equivalents of tofu, vegetables, spices, eggs, some
>breadcrumbs and a couple of ounces of nuts. That, plus
>"elaborate sanctification rituals," of course.

I was the author of the B5 cookbook. Unless ingredients were specified in the
episode, e.g. Garibaldi's bagna cauda, it was strictly speculation. WB hired a
food consultant (someone who develops recipes for restaurants), and she sat
down with me to watch episodes such as this one. She had no knowledge at all
of B5, so I had to back-fill the universe for her.

We also made a conscious decision to try to go "over the top" with the book,
since it was a pretty ridiculous idea to begin with! Someone in WB Licensing
came up with the idea; they'd done a "Friends" cookbook and during a
brainstorming session for B5 products they could license someone suggested a B5
cookbook. To their surprise, someone actually licensed the idea -- the U.K.
publisher Boxtree.

Someone asked if the cookbook was available in the U.S. The answer,
unfortunately, is no. No domestic licensee showed an interest in the book. So
you're pretty much relegated to eBay or a collector.

One other note about the cookbook ... If you watch the fifth season episode "A
View from the Gallery," take a look at the book they're reading while sitting
on a cot in the shelter. It's an early mockup of the B5 cookbook! I had no
idea Joe was going to do that, and fell off the sofa watching the episode when
I saw it. If you've read the cookbook, its publication in the B5 universe was
supposed to have been the end of the third season, so finding it lying around
in the shelter in the middle of the fifth season was entirely plausible. The
fictitious author was a bit of a gossipmonger so one could theorize that the
book sold on the station for its tabloid value as much as its culinary value.

Stephen

JBONETATI

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Sep 2, 2001, 2:44:50 PM9/2/01
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Stephen (ssmith1701) wrote:

<<I was the author of the B5 cookbook. Unless ingredients were specified in
the
episode, e.g. Garibaldi's bagna cauda, it was strictly speculation. WB hired a
food consultant (someone who develops recipes for restaurants), and she sat
down with me to watch episodes such as this one. She had no knowledge at all
of B5, so I had to back-fill the universe for her.>>

Cool, thanks for answering. Thant was a bit of B5 trivia I didn't know. Now,
the story I *really* want to hear is how you explained Spoo to her!

<<The
fictitious author was a bit of a gossipmonger so one could theorize that the
book sold on the station for its tabloid value as much as its culinary value.>>

In the several cities I've lived in, there's almost always a publication named
"Dining in FITB" which is generally a collection of ads with the occasional
restaurant review from a local paper. It never occurred to me that B5 wouldn't
have one!

BTW, got any recipies that didn't make it into the book?

Thanks,
Jan

SSmith1701

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Sep 2, 2001, 5:35:38 PM9/2/01
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>From: jbon...@aol.com (JBONETATI)

>Cool, thanks for answering. Thant was a bit of B5 trivia I didn't know.
>Now, the story I *really* want to hear is how you explained Spoo
>to her!

We worked around the question of "What is spoo" (or "What is flarn" or "What is
yogtree" or etc.) by coming up with the idea of a "Human Edition." The
assumption was that the various species wouldn't be able to eat some of each
other's foods, so we postulated that the nearest substitute would be specified
in the book. It was a major pain in the butt to go through all her recipes and
make sure that the same "aliases" were used for certain ingredients.

I showed her the scenes with spoo and let her decide what to use. If memory
serves, JMS tweaked the final copy because he had some lines coming up in a
fifth season episode regarding spoo. I also found on the Lurker's Guide to B5
Web site some old quotes from JMS about spoo, which were used nearly verbatim
by the fictitious author on page 25.

>BTW, got any recipies that didn't make it into the book?

They're long gone, if there were any. They would have been generic stuff like
Garibaldi's egg rolls or chili recipes, nothing specifically mentioned in the
series.

I just looked on the credit page, and noticed the credit to Gina Galvan &
Associates for the recipes. If memory serves, she lives in north San Diego
County somewhere ... I was cheezed that they used my name incorrectly, "Steve
Smith" instead of my nom de plume Stephen C. Smith. Oh well. The check cashed
anyway.

I'm just grateful that Joe let me contribute a very small part to the B5
universe. To this day I'm still thunderstruck that the book showed up in an
episode.

Stephen

JBONETATI

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Sep 2, 2001, 6:30:09 PM9/2/01
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ssmith1701 wrote:

<<I was cheezed that they used my name incorrectly, "Steve
Smith" instead of my nom de plume Stephen C. Smith. Oh well. The check cashed
anyway.>>

Still, that was rude.

<< If memory
serves, JMS tweaked the final copy because he had some lines coming up in a
fifth season episode regarding spoo.>>

Probably the episode where they discovered that N'toth was still in the cell
because of the differences in the way Centauri and Narn like their spoo.

<<I'm just grateful that Joe let me contribute a very small part to the B5
universe. To this day I'm still thunderstruck that the book showed up in an
episode.>>

I'll bet. I'll bet it'd have been a bigger part of the universe if we'd known
about it here in the US, too. I think it's the third most coveted part of my
collection after the scripts and Range pin.

Thanks,
Jan

Andrea Grieskamp

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Sep 2, 2001, 2:41:59 PM9/2/01
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I've cooked most of the recieps and have to say thankyou. This are brilliant
ideas and easy to do, my children love it to ;o)

Andrea (germany)

SSmith1701 <ssmit...@aol.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
20010902132248...@mb-mq.aol.com...


> >From: Aisling Willow Grey ais...@fjordstone.com
>
> >According to "Dining on Babylon 5 (Human Edition)," it's a
> >religious caste dish which contains a mixture of the Minbari
> >equivalents of tofu, vegetables, spices, eggs, some
> >breadcrumbs and a couple of ounces of nuts. That, plus
> >"elaborate sanctification rituals," of course.
>

> I was the author of the B5 cookbook. Unless ingredients were specified in
the
> episode, e.g. Garibaldi's bagna cauda, it was strictly speculation. WB
hired a
> food consultant (someone who develops recipes for restaurants), and she
sat
> down with me to watch episodes such as this one. She had no knowledge at
all
> of B5, so I had to back-fill the universe for her.
>

The
> fictitious author was a bit of a gossipmonger so one could theorize that
the
> book sold on the station for its tabloid value as much as its culinary
value.
>

> Stephen
>


SSmith1701

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Sep 3, 2001, 10:25:44 AM9/3/01
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>From: jbon...@aol.com

>I think it's the third most coveted part of my
>collection after the scripts and Range pin.

Thank you for the compliment.

Stephen

SSmith1701

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Sep 3, 2001, 10:27:06 AM9/3/01
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>From: "Andrea Grieskamp"

>I've cooked most of the recieps and have to say thankyou.
> This are brilliant ideas and easy to do, my children love it to ;o)

I can't take credit for the recipes; those were by Gina Galvin. I did all the
text and suggested what recipes might be in the cookbook.

Stephen

Chris Jay Zähller

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Sep 3, 2001, 10:56:22 AM9/3/01
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SSmith1701 wrote:
>
> I was the author of the B5 cookbook. Unless ingredients were specified in the
> episode, e.g. Garibaldi's bagna cauda, it was strictly speculation. WB hired a
> food consultant (someone who develops recipes for restaurants), and she sat
> down with me to watch episodes such as this one. She had no knowledge at all
> of B5, so I had to back-fill the universe for her.

that would be Gina Galvan. she was my brother's next door neighbour, so
he got her to autograph a copy of the cookbook for me. now if i can only
get steve to sign it for me. (apologies to those who have read me
bragging about this before.)

--cz

Mac Breck

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Sep 3, 2001, 11:10:50 PM9/3/01
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Do you have the exact title or, better yet, an ISBN# for it. I'd like to
find a copy.

Mac Breck
----------------
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"To Live and Die in Starlight"
pilot movie for the new series
"Babylon 5 - The Legend of the Rangers"
January 2, 2002 on The Sci-Fi Channel.
http://www.scifi.com/b5rangers/

Andrea Grieskamp

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Sep 4, 2001, 2:40:47 AM9/4/01
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> Subject: Re: What is Flarn?
>
>
> > >From: "Andrea Grieskamp"
> >
> > >I've cooked most of the recieps and have to say thankyou.
> > > This are brilliant ideas and easy to do, my children love it to ;o)
> >
> > I can't take credit for the recipes; those were by Gina Galvin. I did
all
> the
> > text and suggested what recipes might be in the cookbook.
>
> Do you have the exact title or, better yet, an ISBN# for it. I'd like to
> find a copy.

the exactly title is "Dining on Babylon 5" human edition
ISBN 0-7522-1143-9

good luck to find it somewhere ;o)

Andrea

Mac Breck

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Sep 5, 2001, 6:46:17 AM9/5/01
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Thanks!

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