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Joseph DeMartino

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Aug 16, 2009, 6:54:56 PM8/16/09
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Variety is reporting that Universal has greenlit a "BSG" feature film
that will NOT be based on the recent TV series. Bryan Singer, who
tried to "reimagine" the original series for television back in 2001
(he was going to direct the pilot and executive produce the series),
is apparently going to get another shot at the property. His version
will be a feature film this time (no indication if this will be the
first of a potential series or a self-contained story.) No word on
writers at this point.

I know JMS has a lot on his plate these days, and I'd personally
rather see him get a shot at the next "Superman" feature (which Singer
apparently is not directing), but there's a part of me that would
enjoy the irony of JMS penning a feature version of "BSG" the
reinvents the show on its own terms, instead of as a poor man's
"Babylon 5".

Regards,

Joe


Jeffrey Kaplan

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Aug 17, 2009, 12:17:14 PM8/17/09
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Previously on rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated, Joseph DeMartino said:

> Variety is reporting that Universal has greenlit a "BSG" feature film
> that will NOT be based on the recent TV series. Bryan Singer, who
> tried to "reimagine" the original series for television back in 2001
> (he was going to direct the pilot and executive produce the series),
> is apparently going to get another shot at the property. His version
> will be a feature film this time (no indication if this will be the
> first of a potential series or a self-contained story.) No word on
> writers at this point.

According to what I read in the scifi news sites, that movie isn't "yet
another BSG", it's a direct sequel to the original series. Presumably
some kind of "BSG:TNG".

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voxwoman

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Aug 17, 2009, 1:03:00 PM8/17/09
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On Aug 17, 12:17 pm, Jeffrey Kaplan <gor...@gordol.org> wrote:
> Previously on rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated, Joseph DeMartino said:
>
> > Variety is reporting that Universal has greenlit a "BSG" feature film
> > that will NOT be based on the recent TV series.  Bryan Singer, who
> > tried to "reimagine" the original series for television back in 2001
> > (he was going to direct the pilot and executive produce the series),
> > is apparently going to get another shot at the property.  His version
> > will be a feature film this time (no indication if this will be the
> > first of a potential series or a self-contained story.)  No word on
> > writers at this point.
>
> According to what I read in the scifi news sites, that movie isn't "yet
> another BSG", it's a direct sequel to the original series.  Presumably
> some kind of "BSG:TNG".


Why? The original series doesn't hold up nearly as well as Trek TOS,
and that's got a serious cheese factor. Can't anyone come up with NEW
ideas anymore?

-Wendy

Dan Dassow

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Aug 17, 2009, 3:11:52 PM8/17/09
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It is not a question of writers coming up with new ideas, but finding
funding for productions for those new ideas. Alas, it is easier to
sell cheesy known ideas to backers than to sell creative new ideas
since there is typically less perceived risk.

Dan Dassow

David Williams

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Aug 17, 2009, 3:46:29 PM8/17/09
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"voxwoman" <voxw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4e8b9fcf-8b00-4c94...@k6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...

> Can't anyone come up with NEW ideas anymore?

But, but... that's WORK! <whimper>

Jan

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Aug 17, 2009, 3:54:48 PM8/17/09
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In article <h6cc2j$oti$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, David Williams says...

Worse than that, it's RISKY! <shudder>

Jan


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Jeffrey Kaplan

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Aug 17, 2009, 5:14:14 PM8/17/09
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Previously on rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated, voxwoman said:

> > According to what I read in the scifi news sites, that movie isn't "yet
> > another BSG", it's a direct sequel to the original series.  Presumably
> > some kind of "BSG:TNG".
>
> Why? The original series doesn't hold up nearly as well as Trek TOS,
> and that's got a serious cheese factor. Can't anyone come up with NEW
> ideas anymore?

I've been asking that question myself for years. Movies based on comic
books, action-figure toys, TV shows, older movies, and now I'm hearing
that there are treatments being done up for movies based on Lego and
View-Master!

http://scifiwire.com/2009/08/warner-to-make-lego-movie.php
http://scifiwire.com/2009/07/from-the-wtf-files-they-w.php

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Matt Ion

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Aug 17, 2009, 8:58:42 PM8/17/09
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On 17/08/2009 2:14 PM, Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:

> I've been asking that question myself for years. Movies based on comic
> books, action-figure toys, TV shows, older movies, and now I'm hearing
> that there are treatments being done up for movies based on Lego and
> View-Master!
>
> http://scifiwire.com/2009/08/warner-to-make-lego-movie.php
> http://scifiwire.com/2009/07/from-the-wtf-files-they-w.php

Old news: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIXByCAIzos


voxwoman

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Aug 17, 2009, 9:29:58 PM8/17/09
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On Aug 17, 5:14 pm, Jeffrey Kaplan <gor...@gordol.org> wrote:
> Previously on rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated, voxwoman said:
>
> > > According to what I read in the scifi news sites, that movie isn't "yet
> > > another BSG", it's a direct sequel to the original series.  Presumably
> > > some kind of "BSG:TNG".
>
> > Why? The original series doesn't hold up nearly as well as Trek TOS,
> > and that's got a serious cheese factor. Can't anyone come up with NEW
> > ideas anymore?
>
> I've been asking that question myself for years.  Movies based on comic
> books, action-figure toys, TV shows, older movies, and now I'm hearing
> that there are treatments being done up for movies based on Lego and
> View-Master!
>
> http://scifiwire.com/2009/08/warner-to-make-lego-movie.phphttp://scifiwire.com/2009/07/from-the-wtf-files-they-w.php
>
Those are 90-minute "infomercials" masquerading as movies. The other
toy manufacturers are seething with envy at the boost Transformers got
from their movie. (hence the GI Joe move). They all remind me of the
clip for "Action Figure Man" in the cartoon awards show in the
Simpson's episode "The Front"

-Wendy

Wes Struebing

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Aug 17, 2009, 10:13:27 PM8/17/09
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On 17 Aug 2009 12:54:48 -0700, Jan <janmsc...@aol.com> wrote:

>In article <h6cc2j$oti$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, David Williams says...
>>
>>
>>"voxwoman" <voxw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:4e8b9fcf-8b00-4c94...@k6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>>> Can't anyone come up with NEW ideas anymore?
>>
>>But, but... that's WORK! <whimper>
>>
>
>Worse than that, it's RISKY! <shudder>
>

worser than that - everyone will compare it to the original (BSG:TOS?)

Jeffrey Kaplan

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Aug 17, 2009, 10:24:46 PM8/17/09
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Seen it. I like this one better (though not done with toys):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luVjkTEIoJc

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Amy Guskin

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Aug 18, 2009, 7:48:36 AM8/18/09
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>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:58:42 -0400, Matt Ion wrote
(in article <h6cud7$9il$1...@news.eternal-september.org>):

No, _that_ would be good. That would be a movie based on "Monty Python and
the Holy Grail." This is a movie _based on Lego_. Which is...meaningless!
It's like basing a movie on white bread, or plastic! There's no "there"
there.

Amy
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Vince M Hudd

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Aug 18, 2009, 8:10:54 AM8/18/09
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Amy Guskin <ais...@fjordstone.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:58:42 -0400, Matt Ion wrote
> (in article <h6cud7$9il$1...@news.eternal-september.org>):
> > On 17/08/2009 2:14 PM, Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:

> > > http://scifiwire.com/2009/08/warner-to-make-lego-movie.php
> > > http://scifiwire.com/2009/07/from-the-wtf-files-they-w.php
> >
> > Old news: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIXByCAIzos <<
>
> No, _that_ would be good. That would be a movie based on "Monty Python
> and the Holy Grail." This is a movie _based on Lego_. Which
> is...meaningless! It's like basing a movie on white bread, or plastic!
> There's no "there" there.

I don't know - given the apparent intention is a mix of live action and
animation, I can see a direction they might go in; the "based on" will
probably end up defining where the live action characters find themselves,
I'd guess. It'll probably work for what it's hoped to be.

Thankfully, though, I don't have any STIs^h^h^h^h kids, so it's not a film
I'll have to suffer. (And as an after thought, this same sentiment applies
to the two below...)

The idea of a movie based on Stretch Armstrong, and other toys like that,
don't strike me as too ridiculous, either - because we're talking about toys
that are supposed to be a character; would anyone object if Stretch was a
comic book character, called Reed Richards perhaps, rather than a toy?

I can even see a premise for a Viewmaster based film - in which the toy
itself is, effectively, just a means to an end, not unlike a specific detail
discussed here recently re The Matrix.

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Kurt Ullman

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Aug 18, 2009, 8:18:42 AM8/18/09
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In article <0001HW.C6B00D11...@news.verizon.net>,
Amy Guskin <ais...@fjordstone.com> wrote:

> No, _that_ would be good. That would be a movie based on "Monty Python and
> the Holy Grail." This is a movie _based on Lego_. Which is...meaningless!
> It's like basing a movie on white bread, or plastic! There's no "there"
> there.
>

Legos are the actors. At the technical level, I don't see any
difference between that and say Nightmare Before Christmas or any other
stop-action flick. The creative level is another kettle o' fish
altogether.

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Amy Guskin

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Aug 18, 2009, 8:27:21 AM8/18/09
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>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:18:42 -0400, Kurt Ullman wrote
(in article
<kurtullman-82AF9...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net>):

> In article <0001HW.C6B00D11...@news.verizon.net>,
> Amy Guskin <ais...@fjordstone.com> wrote:
>
>> No, _that_ would be good. That would be a movie based on "Monty Python and
>> the Holy Grail." This is a movie _based on Lego_. Which is...meaningless!
>>
>> It's like basing a movie on white bread, or plastic! There's no "there"
>> there.
>>
>
> Legos are the actors. At the technical level, I don't see any
> difference between that and say Nightmare Before Christmas or any other
> stop-action flick. The creative level is another kettle o' fish
> altogether. <<

What I read is "a movie based on Lego." What you're talking about is a dark
horror/fantasy/musical fable using stop-motion fabric/plastic/whatever
characters. The equivalent would be to describe "A Nightmare Before
Christmas" as "a movie based on plastic/fabric/whatever." I don't see any
plot or motivation yet beyond "a movie based on Lego." Bad basis for a
movie, IMHO.

Jeffrey Kaplan

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Aug 18, 2009, 11:01:30 AM8/18/09
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Previously on rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated, Amy Guskin said:

> > Old news: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIXByCAIzos <<
>
> No, _that_ would be good. That would be a movie based on "Monty Python and
> the Holy Grail." This is a movie _based on Lego_. Which is...meaningless!
> It's like basing a movie on white bread, or plastic! There's no "there"
> there.

Legos ARE plastic...

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Andrew Swallow

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Aug 19, 2009, 6:01:41 PM8/19/09
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voxwoman wrote:
> Can't anyone come up with NEW
> ideas anymore?
>
> -Wendy
>

Hollywood needs a way for testing new ideas for about $4 million.
Possibly by making a movie of the week.

Andrew Swallow

Jeffrey Kaplan

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Aug 19, 2009, 9:43:42 PM8/19/09
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Previously on rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated, Andrew Swallow said:

> > Can't anyone come up with NEW
> > ideas anymore?
>

> Hollywood needs a way for testing new ideas for about $4 million.
> Possibly by making a movie of the week.

And then what? If it does good enough to make a major theatrical
release, it'll no longer be a new idea.

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Andrew Swallow

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Aug 19, 2009, 11:40:03 PM8/19/09
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Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
> Previously on rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated, Andrew Swallow said:
>
>>> Can't anyone come up with NEW
>>> ideas anymore?
>> Hollywood needs a way for testing new ideas for about $4 million.
>> Possibly by making a movie of the week.
>
> And then what? If it does good enough to make a major theatrical
> release, it'll no longer be a new idea.
>
It will still be sufficiently new.

Andrew Swallow

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