Happy Miracle Monday!
Super-Menace
Monday is a good one anyway.
Len-L
<fort...@arctic.com.invalid> opined:
>Well, these groups are pretty much dead, but here's hoping your Miracle
>Monday is a good one anyway.
Right back at you. Thanks for the reminder.
Len-L
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Super-Menace
> On Mon, 18 May 2009 03:51:36 -0400, Super-Menace
> <fort...@arctic.com.invalid> opined:
>
> >Well, these groups are pretty much dead, but here's hoping your Miracle
> >Monday is a good one anyway.
>
> Right back at you. Thanks for the reminder.
> Len-L
Good to see you again, Len.
KalElFan
news:180520090351365171%fort...@arctic.com.invalid...
> Well, these groups are pretty much dead, but here's hoping your
> Miracle Monday is a good one anyway.
And from up here in Canada, Happy Victoria Day too. :-)
For what it's worth the HSX players have recently been buying
Superman 2 stock and it hit a one-year high today. If you scroll
down to the graph on this page you'll see the spike up in recent
weeks. Maybe they know something. :-)
http://movies.hsx.com/servlet/SecurityDetail?symbol=SUPR2&day_span=all
I still think a follow-up movie with Routh and Bosworth, one that
fixes the backstory problems there as we discussed at the time,
and with Brainiac not Lex as the villain, is the way to go. It'd
have Khan-like franchise resurrection potential but even absent
that it'd be a better way to end the Reeve ---> Routh four-part
story if we ignore Superman III and IV.
There probably wouldn't be that much risk by the time all the
various revenue sources are added up, and again there'd be
upside. Who the director should be is the question. If Singer
accepted the need to fix the backstory and shift gears from
what he did in the first one, I'd say give him another shot at it.
It's easy to fix, needn't take much screen time at all, and fits
well with a Brainiac story to boot.
If not Singer, it'd probably have to be a relatively unknown
director who'd be willing to follow up on and fix the Singer
installment, under Warners influence and supervision. A
bigger name director, in addition to being more expensive,
would tend to want to start from scratch and/or put their
own stamp on the thing.
Super-Menace
Whoever it is -- it won't be Bryan Singer -- will have to start from
scratch. There's just no alternative anymore.
There's somebody out there with an Excel spreadsheet that compares the
gross of Superman Returns with those of Iron Man, The Dark Knight, and
Star Trek. He probably cries over it.
I liked Superman Returns, but I also realize that they spent way too
much money on it, it wasn't a fan-pleaser, and they'd written
themselves into a corner. They'd also made the vast mistake of
allowing Superman to absent himself from Earth for five years to chase
a pipe dream, which demonstrated the fundamentally flawed view they had
of the character, and -- worse -- fans didn't understand why the people
making a Superman movie would make that choice for him.
I used to hang out over at the Superman Homepage. I tried to make the
point there about a year ago that it (at that point) had been two years
since Superman Returns had come out, and there was still no deal for a
sequel. I was told that I didn't know what I was talking about, and I
should watch what I say before I open my mouth, and so on. Well, it's
been another year, and there's *still* no deal for a sequel. (What
Singer has is not a deal for a sequel, but a penalty clause that pays
him big bucks if he isn't chosen to direct a sequel. That's not the
same thing at all. Also, reports say that when Singer pitched the
sequel -- something much more action-oriented, and involving Brainiac
-- the studio execs stopped him after five minutes and sent him away.
Keep in mind the humiliation of Singer having to come in to pitch what
had been a sure-thing project not long before.) Three years later,
there's not only no green light for a sequel, but the studio says
there's going to be a reboot. And Singer? Who's Singer?
Iron Man got a green light for its sequel several weeks after its
premiere. Star Trek got one when Paramount saw a still-unfinished
print. Superman Returns Again is nowheresville, and it's going to stay
there.
The next Superman film likely won't reach the screen until 2012, it'll
be called Superman, it'll be completely recast, Superman Returns will
have been neroed (a term I just made up), the guy directing it will be
from TV, and he'll have half the budget that Singer had. That's a
whole fat lot of predictions, but I'm comfortable with them.
Kevrob
> In article <77e14mF1h2c0...@mid.individual.net>, KalElFan <kalel...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote:
> > "Super-Menace" <fortr...@arctic.com.invalid> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
The first scene of the "sequel" should be Kal, at his Fortress,
watching a montage of the last bits of SR.
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Voiceover:
[Superman] Well, this computer simulation convinces me that it would
be a BAD IDEA to leave Earth for a prolonged sojourn in space...
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Well, it worked to 'explain" the SuperSons in World's Finest...
Kevin
Kevrob
A Belated Happy Miracle Monday!
Kevin
Super-Menace
> The first scene of the "sequel" should be Kal, at his Fortress,
> watching a montage of the last bits of SR.
>
>
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>
> Voiceover:
>
> [Superman] Well, this computer simulation convinces me that it would
> be a BAD IDEA to leave Earth for a prolonged sojourn in space...
>
>
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>
> Well, it worked to 'explain" the SuperSons in World's Finest...
Ha! I've heard lots worse.
I'd also like to see a Superman in his 30s instead of his 20s. We
haven't had a mature Superman since George Reeves.