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Neville Smith

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Jul 26, 1993, 11:45:26 PM7/26/93
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There's one bit in Star Wars that has always stumped me,
and I've never seen a model of the millenium falcon to figure
out what's going on.

When Luke, Han, and Leia escape the death star for the first time
they have a small battle with some X-wings.

Now, carefully watch Luke and Han as they go to the ladder and climb
into the gun turrets. Luke climbs DOWN the ladder.
The next shot we see is Luke at the bottom of the ladder crawling into
the gun turret. However, it seems that the ladder is now horizontal
on the floor with respect to the gun turrets gravity.

What the heck is going on here?

Am I seeing it incorrectly?
Does the gravity change as you climb towards a gun turret?
Aren't the gun turrets on the sides of the falcon instead of up or down?
Is this a blooper I've discovered and if so do I get ten brownie points of
recognition in a FAQ somewhere?

Neville Smith
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David Thiel

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Aug 3, 1993, 2:51:03 PM8/3/93
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In article <1993Jul27.0...@fawlty.towers.oz.au> nev...@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Neville Smith) writes:
>From: nev...@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Neville Smith)
>Subject: Millenium Falcon gun turrets
>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 03:45:26 GMT

>There's one bit in Star Wars that has always stumped me,
>and I've never seen a model of the millenium falcon to figure
>out what's going on.
>
>When Luke, Han, and Leia escape the death star for the first time
>they have a small battle with some X-wings.

TIE fighters, actually. Leia would object to them shooting at the good guys.

>Now, carefully watch Luke and Han as they go to the ladder and climb
>into the gun turrets. Luke climbs DOWN the ladder.
>The next shot we see is Luke at the bottom of the ladder crawling into
>the gun turret. However, it seems that the ladder is now horizontal
>on the floor with respect to the gun turrets gravity.
>
>What the heck is going on here?
>
>Am I seeing it incorrectly?

No.

>Does the gravity change as you climb towards a gun turret?

Yes.

>Aren't the gun turrets on the sides of the falcon instead of up or down?

No.

>Is this a blooper I've discovered and if so do I get ten brownie points of
>recognition in a FAQ somewhere?

No.

Honestly, this confused me too at first. There's a brief shot in STAR WARS
that shows laser fire erupting from the top of the Falcon, but nothing else
to indicate where the gun turrets are. However, they are indeed at the top
and bottom, and considering that some sort of artificial gravity appears to
be standard aboard SW starships, it seems likely that the gravity in the
ladder well must shift to allow easy access to the gunnery chairs.

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Mike

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Aug 3, 1993, 11:37:49 AM8/3/93
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According to the Zahn books, the gravity actually changes in that
tube. I think I remember Zahn mentioning how it always bothered Luke
as he climbed the ladder.

Is this right? Or am I remembering something else?

-Mike
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ca...@condor.navsses.navy.mil

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Aug 3, 1993, 5:27:29 PM8/3/93
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In article <1993Jul27.0...@fawlty.towers.oz.au>, nev...@fawlty.towers.

> they have a small battle with some X-wings.

Must have been really small. I missed it with all those TIE fighters :)

>
> Now, carefully watch Luke and Han as they go to the ladder and climb
> into the gun turrets. Luke climbs DOWN the ladder.
> The next shot we see is Luke at the bottom of the ladder crawling into
> the gun turret. However, it seems that the ladder is now horizontal
> on the floor with respect to the gun turrets gravity.
>

Seriously, though, what happens is that they cross into a separate gravity
environment inside the Turrets. They really are "up" and "down" from the main
deck.


tom

Christopher A. Wolf

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Aug 3, 1993, 7:12:38 PM8/3/93
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> Now, carefully watch Luke and Han as they go to the ladder and climb
> into the gun turrets. Luke climbs DOWN the ladder.
> The next shot we see is Luke at the bottom of the ladder crawling into
> the gun turret. However, it seems that the ladder is now horizontal
> on the floor with respect to the gun turrets gravity.
>
> What the heck is going on here?
>
> Am I seeing it incorrectly?
> Does the gravity change as you climb towards a gun turret?
> Aren't the gun turrets on the sides of the falcon instead of up or down?

The gun turrets are located in the exact center of the top and bottom
of the Falcon. You can see the turrets on many of the external shots.

The gravity does indeed change orientation in each of the turrets - gravity
in the turrets is 90 degrees different than gravity in the rest of the
ship. Since the ship has to have artificial gravity throughout anyways
it makes sens to have the orientation of the turrets different so the
gunners are always facing "out" towards there targets rather than "up" or
"down".

> Is this a blooper I've discovered and if so do I get ten brownie points of
> recognition in a FAQ somewhere?
>

Sorry - no "no-prize" for you 8) (Wonder if there's anyone out there who
actually got a "no-prize" from Marvel and could tell us what it actually
IS. 8)

> Neville Smith

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C/D Eskridge

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Aug 3, 1993, 10:44:50 PM8/3/93
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In <23mrd6...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <ch...@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu> wrote:
>
>Sorry - no "no-prize" for you 8) (Wonder if there's anyone out there who
>actually got a "no-prize" from Marvel and could tell us what it actually
>IS. 8)
>
I've heard that a NO-Prize in the 60's was an empty envelope that
said something to the effect NO-Prize inside. These were a response
to Stan Lee awarding a No Prize in the letter column and people
writing asking where their prize was. Of course a No prize
was no prize except for the recognition.

Curt

David Ahrens

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Aug 4, 1993, 11:27:23 AM8/4/93
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Take a good close look at a picture of the Falcon. The guns are at
the top and bottom of the ship. They're not very big at all. The
first few times I looked, I didn't see them or didn't realize I was
seeing them. In comparison to an average sized person they seemed
big but the Falcon isn't all that small itself so the guns are
comparatively small, but they are there.

David

Darren Bruce Boucher

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Aug 4, 1993, 11:43:05 AM8/4/93
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> According to the Zahn books, the gravity actually changes in that
>tube. I think I remember Zahn mentioning how it always bothered Luke
>as he climbed the ladder.

>Is this right? Or am I remembering something else?

If it wasn't in Zahn, it was in Brian Daley's Han Solo adventures as I
too remember reading this.
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Eddie Edwards

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Aug 4, 1993, 12:33:19 PM8/4/93
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: If it wasn't in Zahn, it was in Brian Daley's Han Solo adventures as I
: too remember reading this.

It was in Zahn, 'cos I've read this & I've never read any of Daley's
stuff.

Eddie xxx

Paul Probus

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Aug 6, 1993, 8:43:46 PM8/6/93
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Twist

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Aug 8, 1993, 5:17:20 PM8/8/93
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In article <23mrd6...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> ch...@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jul27.0...@fawlty.towers.oz.au> nev...@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Neville Smith) writes:
>
>> Is this a blooper I've discovered and if so do I get ten brownie points of
>> recognition in a FAQ somewhere?
>>
>
>Sorry - no "no-prize" for you 8) (Wonder if there's anyone out there who
>actually got a "no-prize" from Marvel and could tell us what it actually
>IS. 8)
>

A "no-prize" was an empty envelope.

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David Aubrey

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Aug 10, 1993, 12:02:50 AM8/10/93
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Eddie is 100% correct, I read it in Zahn's "Heir to an Empire" TWO days ago.

When Han, Leia & C3P0 go to Lando's new mining venture on a planet close to a sun
( I can't remember the name ), they have to ride into the planet under the shield
ship. Now due to the fact that they didn't have a slave-circuit to joint hyper-
space hop to the planet, they had to take the route in 10 or so hours. On their
way in, another "craft" without a slave-circuit also had to take the long route
so they had to wait for it to get to the shield ship. Han thought this could be
trouble so he went to a turret,

And it is here that a reference to a switch in gravity direction is made!

This is just before half way in the book. Sorry about the long description, but
there has been little other true proof given ( if a page number is wanted just
ask me nicely and I will find out tomorrow ).


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