Luke's Face
David Halsted
Mark Hamill had a motorcycle accident after SW, so they wrote in the Hoth
Wampa scene to account for his facial scars.
I just watched the trilogy (on the big screen), and noticed something:
after the Hoth scenes, throughout Empire and Jedi, Luke's face doesn't
have _any_ scars. It shows aging, sure. Maybe altered shape due to
reconstructive surgery, but no scars at all. Like when he's in Dagobah,
in Yoda's little house, before he knows Yoda is Yoda - check it his right
face side - no scars.
On another note, all the actors aged terribly throughout the movies. Han
looks like shit in Jedi, Alec Guinness showed a big chance between SW and
Jedi, and Luke needs no mention on this subject. Even Leia, though for
her it had more to do with being strung out on drugs. Anyhow, the actors
overall didn't age too well in the span of about 8 years.
But back to Luke, I don't buy the motorcycle/Wampa bit any more. It makes
sense, but take a look at his face _after_ Hoth, and for the rest of the
trilogy. Sure, he looks bad, but it's aging, not scarring.
- David
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> Wampa scene to account for his facial scars.
>
> I just watched the trilogy (on the big screen), and noticed something:
> after the Hoth scenes, throughout Empire and Jedi, Luke's face doesn't
> have _any_ scars. It shows aging, sure. Maybe altered shape due to
> reconstructive surgery, but no scars at all. Like when he's in Dagobah,
> in Yoda's little house, before he knows Yoda is Yoda - check it his right
> face side - no scars.
Luke has scars on his face in the "hospital" bed in the "laugh it up,
fuzz ball" scene -- and he also has noticable scars in the last scene
of _Empire_ when they're all looking out the large window.
> On another note, all the actors aged terribly throughout the movies. Han
> looks like shit in Jedi, Alec Guinness showed a big chance between SW and
> Jedi, and Luke needs no mention on this subject. Even Leia, though for
> her it had more to do with being strung out on drugs. Anyhow, the actors
Well, Obi-wan was dead -- Han Solo was frozen in carbonite -- and Leia,
well Leia just aged. ;)
> But back to Luke, I don't buy the motorcycle/Wampa bit any more. It makes
> sense, but take a look at his face _after_ Hoth, and for the rest of the
> trilogy. Sure, he looks bad, but it's aging, not scarring.
You've got a point, but who's to say how bad he looked under his make-up.
Chances are the director thought it would show up more on screen.
Stephen LEAFS Legge
SLE...@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Flyinggoat
As an artist, I particularily noticed that the shape of his nose was
different between the first movie and the second, and also they no longer
showed much of his ears. As I understand the accident, he tore most of
his face off and they had to reconstruct his nose from the cartilidge of
his ear. Of course, at the time, I was eager to see Mark Hamill in that
awful SW christmas special, since that was his first apperance after the
accident, and they hid his 'disfigurement' (and healing puffy face) by
having him only appear on a monitor communication device that got awful
reception, and no clear picture.
His "scars" for the movie had to do more with misleading you, the
viewer, into not noticing his nose was different by scarring his cheek and
chin, and taking your attention away from his nose. It was more a pugnose
in 'New Hope' and it was more regular and classicly shaped in 'Empire'
Mark Largent
Flyinggoat <flyin...@aol.com> wrote:
You know, I was just watching the trilogy again for the first time
in a long time and while watching the scene in ANH where Luke is looking
out at the two (suns? Moons?) I noticed that he had a strange profile.
The bridge of his nose seemed to stick out further. It was kind of like
a mole's face. (I'm not saying that to be insulting, just to illustrate
my point.) I hadn't watched ANH in several years and it was very noticable.
Mark
dsc...@acfcluster.nyu.edu
that order. The wampa scene may have been concocted to cover any scenes
filmed after said accident where said scar is obvious.
Pi Furley
I guess
Cheryl A. Bellucci
In a previous article, dhal...@clark.net (David Halsted) says:
>The tale goes like this:
>
>Mark Hamill had a motorcycle accident after SW, so they wrote in the Hoth
>Wampa scene to account for his facial scars.
>
Here's the story I heard at the time...
Mark Hamill was one of the original kids in "Eight is Enough". In fact,
he filmed the pilot for the TV show. Just as the network picked it up,
George Lucas offered him the role in SW. The network wouldn't let him
out of the EiE deal, so Mark went out and (in a fit of anger) wrecked
his car (I seem to remember something about him rolling it over an
embankment). The network thought they had a real nutcase on their hands,
so they let him go and the rest is history.
Cheryl
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Chris Tanis
Star Wars movie was filmed, hence the facial differences from
SW to TESB (look at the nose and mouth specifically). He was
driving his car down the freeway (new car, bmw I think) at a
rather high rate of speed, listening to the stereo when he noticed
that he was going to miss his exit. He swerved sharply trying
to get to the exit ramp, and wrecked the car, doing some facial
damage in the process.
Now if I could only find the copy of the interview in which Mr.
Hamill explains this...somewhere in the attic.
-Chris
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Carl Mueller
>On another note, all the actors aged terribly throughout the movies. Han
>looks like shit in Jedi, Alec Guinness showed a big chance between SW and
>Jedi, and Luke needs no mention on this subject. Even Leia, though for
>her it had more to do with being strung out on drugs. Anyhow, the actors
>overall didn't age too well in the span of about 8 years.
This is the second time that I have heard that Carrie Fisher was "strung out
on drugs" during this period. What proof does anyone have to back this up?
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afr...@vnet.ibm.com
>Here's the story I heard at the time...
>
>Mark Hamill was one of the original kids in "Eight is Enough". In fact,
>he filmed the pilot for the TV show. Just as the network picked it up,
>George Lucas offered him the role in SW. The network wouldn't let him
>out of the EiE deal, so Mark went out and (in a fit of anger) wrecked
>his car (I seem to remember something about him rolling it over an
>embankment). The network thought they had a real nutcase on their hands,
>so they let him go and the rest is history.
>
>Cheryl
If the accident occurred prior to SW, why does his face look different
between SW and ESB? I thought this happened after SW.
As far as the facial distinctions, in SW, his nose was narrower and
a little more pointy. After the accident, it's rounder and flatter. In
fact, his whole face seems more round in Jedi (but that's probably age).
If I had known all this merchandise was going to be worth something,
I would have asked Santa for more Star Wars toys, instead of that
damn Shogun Warrior shit!
-afr
Ben Monroe
>
>
>>On another note, all the actors aged terribly throughout the movies. Han
>>looks like shit in Jedi, Alec Guinness showed a big chance between SW and
>>Jedi, and Luke needs no mention on this subject. Even Leia, though for
>>her it had more to do with being strung out on drugs. Anyhow, the actors
>>overall didn't age too well in the span of about 8 years.
>
>This is the second time that I have heard that Carrie Fisher was "strung out
>on drugs" during this period. What proof does anyone have to back this up?
>
Check out "Skywalking" a biography of George Lucas by some guy named Pollock
As I remember, it goes into this... It's a hell of a good book too...
Garton Joshua R
: I saw that Eight is Enough pilot this summer too. It came on the FX Channel.
: Fox's new channel on cable. It was really pathetic in retrospect. I kept
: looking at our young Mr. Hamill and thinking that Dick Van Patten was Vader.
: And Adam Rich was a drug-addict Ewok. As far as I know Hamill's face was
: disfigured _after_ SW bcuz you can see the difference in his nose the most
: clearly in the opening scenes on Hoth. Watch the end or any part of SW then
: watch ESB and you'll see what I mean.
: -Luke
As far as _I_ know, Luke, or should I say Mark Hamill, went through
the windshield of a car during the filming of _Empire_. You notice it
for the first time during the medbay scene after he and Han are picked up.
If I'm not misinformed, that bit was added as an excuse for his face being
messed up. All of the above could be false.
Joshua Garton
jrg...@nic.smsu.edu