What if James Earl Jones dies?
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I say it?) Lucas dies????
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Paul Ouellette
can't keep from worrying about one little thing.
What if James Earl Jones dies?
Now, I have no reason to assume that JEJ is in anything but the best of
health and, of course, I wish him the best. However, the man isn't a
young guy anymore.
I figure that we probably won't see the return of Vader until Episode III
which will be the last prequel filmed. Assuming the timeline for
releases is true, that movie probably won't be released until the year
2000 and *that's* assuming Lucas can stick to his grueling
back-to-back-to-back filming plans. Even minor delays could push the
later prequels back a year or two.
So, though I hope JEJ will still be with us in the next 5 to 7 years, if
he were to pass on, who would do Vader's voice? Would the technical
wizards at ILM try to computer simulate the voice or would a new actor
with a similar voice be used? And if a new voice, who could do it? My
tentative vote would be for that singer, I think his name is Barry White,
his album is called the Icon of Love. Unfortunately, everything he says
sounds sensual, like he's coming on to you. Witness Letterman's Academy
Awards 'Do you Want to Buy a Monkey?" sketch.
Paul
JWooten
Improvise. I'm sure they didn't wonder, "Gee, what do we do if Mark takes
a dive through his windshield?" when they were planning Tunisia
re-shoots. Lucas, et al, can't make contigency plans for an actor's death
or illness. You deal with it and move on...you can't complain about it or
prepare for it in any way. What an odd post....what does JEJ being old
have to do with it anyway? You can die at any time, right. what if the
one of the lead actors dies during filming? You just can't speculate on
this stuff, because their is no way to know *what* they would do, and it
seems kind of morbid to discuss replacements since the actor is *at least*
in fine health at the moment. (I swear he should have never done Clear
and Present Danger, half the world thinks he's dead and the other half
think he is sick because of Admiral Greer's condition...)
*sheesh*
John
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Michael Gleeson
>What if James Earl Jones dies?
>Now, I have no reason to assume that JEJ is in anything but the best of
>I figure that we probably won't see the return of Vader until Episode III
Remember, JEJ didn't even DO Vader's voice in Star Wars: A New
Hope! You can tell the difference if you listen closely (and look at the
credits..). I'm sure they could find someone who sounded close enough..
>Paul
-Mike Gleeson
JWooten
(Michael Gleeson) wrote:
~ Remember, JEJ didn't even DO Vader's voice in Star Wars: A New
~ Hope! You can tell the difference if you listen closely (and look at the
~ credits..). I'm sure they could find someone who sounded close enough..
~
~ -Mike Gleeson
Are you sure about this? I was always told (and always read) that JEJ
simply didn't think he did enough to be credited. He may not sound quite
the same, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be him. He was younger, new
to the role, and voice recording tech improved a lot from SW to ESB.
Sorry, I think you're mistaken about this, IMHO.
CHRISTOPHER M. RIPP
> They could get that bald guy that did 7up commercials years ago and
> always ending a commercial with HA! Ha ha...or something like that, last
> time I saw him he was doing commercials for the Isle of Capri Casinos in
> Louisiana and Mississippi. :)
I can see it now.....
"Don be too proud of dis technological terror you constructed mon"
"De ability to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to de powa of
de force mon! Don mess wit da Empire mon! Hahahahaha! Ja, den we take all de
rebels, and we smoke ganja til we die! Now dats....a party mon!"
[Sincere apologies if this offends my Jamaican friends....but can you
picture da Lord Dath Vada wit a pipe stuck in dat mask o his, mon?....Whoops
did it again.]
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always ending a commercial with HA! Ha ha...or something like that, last
time I saw him he was doing commercials for the Isle of Capri Casinos in
Louisiana and Mississippi. :)
Paul Ouellette (poue...@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca) wrote:
: You know, I hate to be a pessimest but as a die-hard Darth Vader fan I
: can't keep from worrying about one little thing.
: What if James Earl Jones dies?
: Now, I have no reason to assume that JEJ is in anything but the best of
: health and, of course, I wish him the best. However, the man isn't a
: young guy anymore.
: I figure that we probably won't see the return of Vader until Episode III
: which will be the last prequel filmed. Assuming the timeline for
Michael Crichton Fan
> (Michael Gleeson) wrote:
>
>
>
> ~ Remember, JEJ didn't even DO Vader's voice in Star Wars: A New
> ~ Hope! You can tell the difference if you listen closely (and look at the
> ~ credits..). I'm sure they could find someone who sounded close enough..
>
>
> ~
> ~ -Mike Gleeson
James Earl Jones did Darth Vader's voice in all three SW movies. I don't know
what difference you hear (could be older sound mixing). His name does not
appear in the end credits because he refused credit. The story goes that he
didn't feel he had done enough to deserve it.
This comes up every month or so, is it not in the FAQ? Or haven't you read it?
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karl mamer
> Jeez, they'd probably have to do the same thing *any* studio would do.
> Improvise. I'm sure they didn't wonder, "Gee, what do we do if Mark takes
Why do they even need JEJ? Vader is dead so they don't need him for
7/8/9. I presume he won't be masked until the end of 3.
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> Remember, JEJ didn't even DO Vader's voice in Star Wars: A New
>
>
> -Mike Gleeson
What the ? James didn't do Darth's voice in ANH? When the heck
did this come up? I was pretty darn sure that he DID do the voice.
Check again.
David Allen Sobelsohn
> poue...@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Paul Ouellette) writes:
>
> >What if James Earl Jones dies?
>
> >Now, I have no reason to assume that JEJ is in anything but the best of
>
> >I figure that we probably won't see the return of Vader until Episode III
>
> Remember, JEJ didn't even DO Vader's voice in Star Wars: A New
> Hope! You can tell the difference if you listen closely (and look at the
> credits..). I'm sure they could find someone who sounded close enough..
>
> >Paul
What are you talking about? James Earl Jones most definitely did the
voice in ANH!! I turned on the tape and fast fowarded to the credits to
make sure. His name is frozen on the screen right now. I've never heard
anything so preposterous. Of course it was James Earl Jones!!
daniel hoogkamp
given a sort of signature number to name them at first. Before they gave
themselves their own names or whatever like Jorres C'boath (of course he
gave himself the same name as the person he was cloned after right!).
Well anyways Ben Kenobi was Called ObI Wan Kenobi way back whenever, do
you think it is possible that O-B-1 was his clone signature, an interesting
thought eh! Any other thoughts on the subject! Maybe there is another
clone of him out there somewhere O-B-2 Kenobi! Anyone??!
Dan
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Brad Books
gle...@course3.harvard.edu writes:
> Remember, JEJ didn't even DO Vader's voice in Star Wars: A New
>Hope! You can tell the difference if you listen closely (and look at the
>credits..). I'm sure they could find someone who sounded close enough..
Yes, he did. He chose not to be credited in ANH. A different actor
(David Prowse) wore the costume, and an even different actor played the
"head" in ROTJ (don't remember the name). Any difference you're hearing
in the voice is due to the audio mix in post-production, not
any actual change in the voice. (It did sound slightly deeper in ESB and
ROTJ, but that's becuase Lucas/ILM wanted it to).
Brad
CHEM125
Well, not that I anticipate the death of JEJ any time soon, and I do SO
hate to be a party to ST/SW debates,
But Michael Dorn has a pretty cool deep voice. Not the same as JEJ, but
who is?
Either him or that 7up guy who did some local commercials around here
for Armory Suzuki last year.... They can make him a Rasta Vader.
Scotty
MastrThon
kenobi didnt
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Ian Martinez
wrote:
> Worrying about his death is the least of SW fans' worries. What if (dare
> I say it?) Lucas dies????
agreed. How about this one: what if (dare I say this either) John
Williams dies?
Alec Usticke
> Hope! You can tell the difference if you listen closely (and look at the
> credits..). I'm sure they could find someone who sounded close enough..
>
James Earl Jones *did* do the voice in ANH. His role was uncredited however.
May the Force be with you . . .
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c.t. pierson
Yeesh. I nominate this for Uplifting Thread Of the Year. :)
I think the only death that would seriously jeopardize the new tril would
be George's. Then again, the Muppets continued after Jim Henson died...so
you never know.
Great, now I feel miserable. :)
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karl mamer
> Remember, JEJ didn't even DO Vader's voice in Star Wars: A New
> Hope! You can tell the difference if you listen closely (and look at the
> credits..). I'm sure they could find someone who sounded close enough..
Snicker... Jones doesn't get credit in Empire either. I guess he must
not have done the voice then too? Basically, to the best of my knowledge,
Jones didn't want a lot of publicity for the Vader voice until basically
the final movie, hence his name not appearing in the credits.
Stevie Paget
writes:
> Worrying about his death is the least of SW fans' worries. What if (dare
> I say it?) Lucas dies????
What if Lucas is flying a plane containing JEJ, Alec Guinness et al,
and suffers a massive coronary?
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daniel hoogkamp
On 8 Apr 1995, MastrThon wrote:
> Kenobi IS not a clone fool, clones always have mental instabilitys and
> kenobi didnt
> ( ) JEDI CLASS STAR DESTROYER "THON"
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Oh and like you know one!? He could have been a clone and could
have just had instabilities off screen, or there is always the fact that
Star Wars was made in 1976 and Timothy Zahn's book's weren't written
until the '90's!!! And besides I wasn't trying to state a fact I was just
saying it was an interesting thought, for discussion. No reason to get
all defencive!!!
Lou Trapani
Then there is always Brook Peters. There is no replacing JEJ, but if the
worst came to be...
-= Lou =-
Andrew Kupersmith
On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, daniel hoogkamp wrote:
> Well anyways Ben Kenobi was Called ObI Wan Kenobi way back whenever, do
> you think it is possible that O-B-1 was his clone signature, an interesting
> thought eh! Any other thoughts on the subject! Maybe there is another
> clone of him out there somewhere O-B-2 Kenobi! Anyone??!
> Dan
This exact theory was proposed back in 1978! In the "entertainment"
section of Playboy magazine, the writer pondered whether or not the Jedi
knights were all clones (i.e. from the "Clone Wars") and whether or not
the second Star Wars movie would elaborate on this theory.
As we know in retrospect, SW:ESB had nothing to do with this theory as
the 1978 entertainment editor proposed. Nice concept though.
Andrew
Jim Wolford
: daniel hoogkamp <hoog...@hubble.sheridanc.on.ca> writes:
: If Ben was a clone, he could have been the first (ie Obi-wan really was
: OB-1, meaning something like "Organic Biosomething model number *1* !!)
: and since he was the first, there wasnt a problem (or slight, hence chapters I
: II, III due soon), but a genetic flaw would exponentially clone, making
: "second generation clones" flawed. Just an idea.
no he would be called Kenoobi and the future versions are Kenooobi, the
90Mhz model Kenoobii and kenobi NT
Jim
Morrissey
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Eric N. Tully
miss JEJ as Darth, but when we read the Dark Emire comics, see the action
figures, or listen to the radio dramas, Luke doesn't always look or sound
like Mark Hamill. Other actors would be able to show their interpreation
of the character and possibly expand our understanding of Darth. Robin
Hood, James Bond, and so many others have been played successfully by
many different actors and the public adapts quickly.
Yes, I would cringe at first, but I trust Lucas would find another good
voice or possible adapt CGI to AUDIO?!?! You never know...
- Eric
Daniel Oberes
writes:
Nope, all clones. Read Heir to the Empire. But I did read something
about that OB-1 thing in Cinescape (March 1995).....any ideas?
Lou Trapani
writes:
>Who cares...We all know he did'nt do it!
Who did not do what? If you mean did JEJ do the voice of Vader for A New
Hope. He did.
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