Mark Hamill porn?
Gaydar
I heard from a reputable source that following the Star Wars trilogy, Mark
Hamill was in a series of gay porn. I'm not kidding. I would really like to
know because if Mark Hamill can come out than so can I.
Dark Lord Karno Dal
Gaydar wrote in message <6cgbbn$3gl$1...@solaris.cc.vt.edu>...
You mean....coma out and admit.....
YOU'RE A TROLL????
May the Darkness be with you....
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On 19 Feb 1998, Gaydar wrote:
>I heard from a reputable source that following the Star Wars trilogy, Mark
>Hamill was in a series of gay porn. I'm not kidding. I would really like to
>know because if Mark Hamill can come out than so can I.
It's a persistent mistake.
Another Hamill actor, I forget his first name (John?).
Ria
Speculator
gay...@vt.edu (Gaydar)did you consider the great discounts at the ORB
while you wrote:
>I heard from a reputable source that following the Star Wars trilogy, Mark
>Hamill was in a series of gay porn. I'm not kidding. I would really like to
>know because if Mark Hamill can come out than so can I.
Um ...
Don't know how to break it to ya, bud, but Mark Hamill is married with
kids - he's not gay, and if he HAD been in gay porn I'm damn sure
someone on RASSM would have heard about it by now.
Now I know that the guy who played Mr Morden in B5 was in a porno
flick [a "straight" one, IYKKIM] ...
Other than that I can't imagine how SF/Porn star rumours might have
started ...
As for coming out yourself - hey man, be cool! If people can't accept
you for who you are, then to hell with them!
mtfbwy,
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RP8007
No - doubt it, I visited Mark Hamill, met his wife and his three children, he
is far from being gay. Speaking of Mark Hamill, did you know he is in a new
kind of comic book called Lost Heroes? His character portrays the main hero who
goes through a series of crises in order to find out who he really is. Amazing
photo-real artwork with his permission of course. You gotta check it out.
It's due out this April. Other stars are supposed to be in it as well.
Rimrunner
In article <6cgbbn$3gl$1...@solaris.cc.vt.edu>, Gaydar <gay...@vt.edu> wrote:
>I heard from a reputable source that following the Star Wars trilogy, Mark
>Hamill was in a series of gay porn. I'm not kidding. I would really like to
>know because if Mark Hamill can come out than so can I.
Oh yes, and supposedly it was called "Flesh Wars" and was a takeoff on
Star Wars.
Get real. This rumor's been floating around for at least (*counts on
fingers*) four years now, and probably longer. Several of my friends are
porn aficionados, and they say they've never heard of this.
Rimrunner
and most of them are star wars fans, *too*
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In article <6cijvl$pe1$1...@news.u-net.com>,
Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>gay...@vt.edu (Gaydar)did you consider the great discounts at the ORB
>>I heard from a reputable source that following the Star Wars trilogy, Mark
>>Hamill was in a series of gay porn. I'm not kidding. I would really like to
>>know because if Mark Hamill can come out than so can I.
>
>
>Don't know how to break it to ya, bud, but Mark Hamill is married with
>kids - he's not gay, and if he HAD been in gay porn I'm damn sure
>someone on RASSM would have heard about it by now.
Actually, I have it on VERY good authority that most of the actors who
appear in gay porn flicks are straight.
The reasoning being, I suppose, that gay porn sells very well, and hey,
it's a living.
I've occasionally considered quitting my job and going to work in a local
strip club. From where I'm sitting, $15+/hour looks pretty good, you know.
"And then when I get old and my boobs start to sag, I'll write a book
about it and go on Donahue." [1]
>As for coming out yourself - hey man, be cool! If people can't accept
>you for who you are, then to hell with them!
We used to call this, "He's in the closet, but the door's open." :)
Rimrunner
[1] _Sandman: Brief Lives_, Neil Gaiman
Speculator
>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) wrote:
>>I've occasionally considered quitting my job and going to work in a local
>>strip club. From where I'm sitting, $15+/hour looks pretty good, you know.
lap-dancers get £5 for a 3-minute dance - or so I hear!
Seriously tho, it must be completely exhausting!
>>"And then when I get old and my boobs start to sag, I'll write a book
>>about it and go on Donahue." [1]
Card...@unix.asb.com (Rich Handley)did you consider the great
discounts at the ORB while you wrote:
>Am I the only one who's suddenly very interested in seeing what
>Rimrunner looks like? :)
Rich! How could you? You're a married man!
<Spec hauls Rich out of his front-row seat, propells him towards the
exit and leaps into the now-vacant seat>
Wow, whadda view! Anyone got popcorn?
JamesG
Rimrunner wrote:
> I've occasionally considered quitting my job and going to work in a
> local strip club. From where I'm sitting, $15+/hour looks pretty good,
> you know.
The money might be good, but I bet the job satisfaction is lousy (how it
compares to customer service I don't know), plus you have to put up with
strange men drooling at you.
JamesG,
spec and i will be middle front ;)
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Well, well, well, look what Card...@unix.asb.com (Rich Handley) has
gone and written:
: rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) wrote:
: >I've occasionally considered quitting my job and going to work in a local
: >strip club. From where I'm sitting, $15+/hour looks pretty good, you know.
: >"And then when I get old and my boobs start to sag, I'll write a book
: >about it and go on Donahue." [1]
:
: Am I the only one who's suddenly very interested in seeing what
: Rimrunner looks like? :)
No, I think it's safe to say, I'm with you on this one.
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The Phoenix wrote in message <34ee8c5f....@news2.newscene.com>...
>Well, well, well, look what Card...@unix.asb.com (Rich Handley) has
>gone and written:
>
>: rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) wrote:
>: >I've occasionally considered quitting my job and going to work in a
local
>: >strip club. From where I'm sitting, $15+/hour looks pretty good, you
know.
>: >"And then when I get old and my boobs start to sag, I'll write a book
>: >about it and go on Donahue." [1]
>:
>: Am I the only one who's suddenly very interested in seeing what
>: Rimrunner looks like? :)
>
>No, I think it's safe to say, I'm with you on this one.
She has pics floating around on the web. You'll have to find them for
yourselves <eggl>
May the Darkness be with you...
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I'm saving up a nice collection of ones and fives just in case.
Wedge
Speculator wrote:
> Card...@unix.asb.com (Rich Handley)did you consider the great
> discounts at the ORB while you wrote:
> >Rimrunner looks like? :)
>
>
> <Spec hauls Rich out of his front-row seat, propells him towards the
> exit and leaps into the now-vacant seat>
>
> Wow, whadda view! Anyone got popcorn?
$1 a bag! $1 a bag! I ALWAYS have popcorn ready. :)
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Rimrunner
In article <EopIM...@news2.new-york.net>,
Rich Handley <Card...@unix.asb.com> wrote:
>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) wrote:
>>I've occasionally considered quitting my job and going to work in a local
>>strip club. From where I'm sitting, $15+/hour looks pretty good, you know.
>>"And then when I get old and my boobs start to sag, I'll write a book
>>about it and go on Donahue." [1]
>
>Rimrunner looks like? :)
http://prometheus.frii.com/~jenine/tb/mount.bob/gnat/genevieve-2.jpg
Rimrunner
ta-da!
Rimrunner
In article <6clgfl$4oo$2...@news.u-net.com>,
Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) wrote:
>>>I've occasionally considered quitting my job and going to work in a local
>>>strip club. From where I'm sitting, $15+/hour looks pretty good, you know.
>
>
>Seriously tho, it must be completely exhausting!
I dunno, but my guitarist offered to buy me one for my birthday.
In which case I will have to be extremely drunk first, otherwise I'll
start giggling.
>>>"And then when I get old and my boobs start to sag, I'll write a book
>>>about it and go on Donahue." [1]
>
>Card...@unix.asb.com (Rich Handley)did you consider the great
>discounts at the ORB while you wrote:
>>Am I the only one who's suddenly very interested in seeing what
>>Rimrunner looks like? :)
>
>Rich! How could you? You're a married man!
"I'm married, not dead." -- someone or other
><Spec hauls Rich out of his front-row seat, propells him towards the
>exit and leaps into the now-vacant seat>
>
>Wow, whadda view! Anyone got popcorn?
There's some in that vending machine over there.
Rimrunner
anyone got a cigarette
Jedi Jason, Master of the Force
Speculator wrote:
>
> >> Card...@unix.asb.com (Rich Handley)did you consider the great
> >> discounts at the ORB while you wrote:
> >> >Am I the only one who's suddenly very interested in seeing what
> >> >Rimrunner looks like? :)
>
> >> Rich! How could you? You're a married man!
> >>
> >> exit and leaps into the now-vacant seat>
> >>
> >> Wow, whadda view! Anyone got popcorn?
>
> while you wrote:
> >$1 a bag! $1 a bag! I ALWAYS have popcorn ready. :)
>
>
> <nudges JamesG>
>
> Well, whaddaya waiting for? Pay the man!
>
> JamesG hands over 2 RASSM Credits [all we've got, I'm afraid]
<Thinks to himself...gotta cash in on this opportunity>
JURI JUICE!!!! BLUE MILK!!!! 2 CREDITS A CUP! 3 FOR 5 CREDITS!!! GET
YER ICE COLD JURI JUICE!
-- JJ
Jedi Jason, Master of the Force
Speculator wrote:
>
> rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner)did you consider the great discounts at
> the ORB while you wrote:
>
> >>>I've occasionally considered quitting my job and going to work in a local
> >>>strip club. From where I'm sitting, $15+/hour looks pretty good, you know.
> >>>about it and go on Donahue." [1]
>
> pretty decent, as was the story where he met up with that guy once
> every century ...
>
> and the "Emperor of America" ... Now THAT's a story!
>
> >Rich Handley <Card...@unix.asb.com> wrote:
> >>Am I the only one who's suddenly very interested in seeing what
> >>Rimrunner looks like? :)
>
>
> >http://prometheus.frii.com/~jenine/tb/mount.bob/gnat/genevieve-2.jpg
>
> >Rimrunner
> >ta-da!
>
> Rim - ya look like "Blossom" !
>
> <Spec prepares to be mightily flamed!>
Hmmm...to come to think of it, if you had the flower hat...maybe you'd
pass for Blossom. ;) <Takes over behind Spec>
-- JJ
Speculator
>> Card...@unix.asb.com (Rich Handley)did you consider the great
>> discounts at the ORB while you wrote:
>> >Am I the only one who's suddenly very interested in seeing what
>> >Rimrunner looks like? :)
>Speculator wrote:
>> Rich! How could you? You're a married man!
>>
>> <Spec hauls Rich out of his front-row seat, propells him towards the
>> exit and leaps into the now-vacant seat>
>>
>> Wow, whadda view! Anyone got popcorn?
Wedge <we...@tm.net.my>did you consider the great discounts at the ORB
while you wrote:
>$1 a bag! $1 a bag! I ALWAYS have popcorn ready. :)
Thanks, we'll take 2!
<nudges JamesG>
Well, whaddaya waiting for? Pay the man!
JamesG hands over 2 RASSM Credits [all we've got, I'm afraid]
mtfbwy,
Speculator
rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner)did you consider the great discounts at
the ORB while you wrote:
>>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) wrote:
>>>I've occasionally considered quitting my job and going to work in a local
>>>strip club. From where I'm sitting, $15+/hour looks pretty good, you know.
>>>"And then when I get old and my boobs start to sag, I'll write a book
>>>about it and go on Donahue." [1]
not the best of Gaiman's Sandman books - the "Arabian Nights" one was
pretty decent, as was the story where he met up with that guy once
every century ...
and the "Emperor of America" ... Now THAT's a story!
>Rich Handley <Card...@unix.asb.com> wrote:
>>Am I the only one who's suddenly very interested in seeing what
>>Rimrunner looks like? :)
like what'shername in "Things to Do in denver when you're Dead" ???
>http://prometheus.frii.com/~jenine/tb/mount.bob/gnat/genevieve-2.jpg
>Rimrunner
>ta-da!
Rim - ya look like "Blossom" !
<Spec prepares to be mightily flamed!>
mtfbwy,
Wedge
Speculator wrote:
>
> >> Card...@unix.asb.com (Rich Handley)did you consider the great
> >> discounts at the ORB while you wrote:
> >> >Am I the only one who's suddenly very interested in seeing what
> >> >Rimrunner looks like? :)
>
> >> Rich! How could you? You're a married man!
> >>
> >> <Spec hauls Rich out of his front-row seat, propells him towards the
> >> exit and leaps into the now-vacant seat>
> >>
> >> Wow, whadda view! Anyone got popcorn?
>
> while you wrote:
> >$1 a bag! $1 a bag! I ALWAYS have popcorn ready. :)
>
> Thanks, we'll take 2!
>
> <nudges JamesG>
>
> Well, whaddaya waiting for? Pay the man!
>
> JamesG hands over 2 RASSM Credits [all we've got, I'm afraid]
JamesG! Did you pay for that popcorn on #rassm? I don't think so...:)
c...@bristol.st.com
In article <6ct5iv$ptb$1...@halcyon.com>,
rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) wrote:
> anyone got a cigarette
Try:
http://prometheus.frii.com/~jenine/tb/mount.bob/gnat/genevieve1.jpg
From the other photos it sounds as if you had a great time, can I come next
time ?
Chris Tomlinson
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Wedge wrote:
>
> Speculator wrote:
> > JamesG hands over 2 RASSM Credits [all we've got, I'm afraid]
>
> JamesG! Did you pay for that popcorn on #rassm? I don't think so...:)
James!! How COULD you!!!!
Shefali Asthana
sniff, sniff, wahhhhhhh!!!
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>>> Card...@unix.asb.com (Rich Handley)did you consider the great
>>> discounts at the ORB while you wrote:
>>> >Am I the only one who's suddenly very interested in seeing what
>>> >Rimrunner looks like? :)
>
>>Speculator wrote:
>>> Rich! How could you? You're a married man!
>>>
>>> <Spec hauls Rich out of his front-row seat, propells him towards the
>>> exit and leaps into the now-vacant seat>
>>>
>>> Wow, whadda view! Anyone got popcorn?
I remember when Rimrunner posted the URL of a site with pics from a
meeting of talk.bizarre members or something similar... :)
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Shefali Asthana wrote:
>
> Wedge wrote:
> >
> > Speculator wrote:
>
> > > JamesG hands over 2 RASSM Credits [all we've got, I'm afraid]
> >
> > JamesG! Did you pay for that popcorn on #rassm? I don't think
> > so...:)
>
> James!! How COULD you!!!!
I know I'd get in trouble the minute I got into this thread...
> Shefali Asthana
> sniff, sniff, wahhhhhhh!!!
Uh, look, I can explain... it was... uh, *research*, that's right, I'm
doing research for my next book...
JamesG,
<guilty look...>
JamesG
Speculator wrote:
> Thanks, we'll take 2!
> <nudges JamesG>
>
> Well, whaddaya waiting for? Pay the man!
>
> JamesG hands over 2 RASSM Credits [all we've got, I'm afraid]
Keep it down, will ya' if Shefali finds out I'm in here I'm a dead
man...
JamesG,
uh-oh, to late
Chris Hawkins
Speculator wrote:
> lap-dancers get £5 for a 3-minute dance - or so I hear!
Not sure how much that is in US dollars, but dancers here can get
anywhere from $5 - $100+ per dance depending on the rules of the club.
Also, the dance generally gets more expensive with how much they take
off and how close, lap-dances vary from state to state and even city to
city depending upon local statutes, they get to you and at clubs without
a hands-off policy the dancers have been known to allow customers to be
hands-on for a price. From what I have heard and read the places that
are hands-on are usually lower class than the ones which are hands-off.
> Seriously tho, it must be completely exhausting!
I have read some individuals reviews of lap dances and they say that
they are exhausting in more ways than one (some dancers make it a goal
for the guy to......if you can't figure it out, don't ask).
MTSWBWY,
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Speculator
>>>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) wrote:
>>>>I've occasionally considered quitting my job and going to work in a local
>>>>strip club. From where I'm sitting, $15+/hour looks pretty good, you know.
>Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>>lap-dancers get £5 for a 3-minute dance - or so I hear!
>>
>>Seriously tho, it must be completely exhausting!
rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner)did you consider the great discounts at
the ORB while you wrote:
>I dunno, but my guitarist offered to buy me one for my birthday.
umm ...
is that a good thing?
>In which case I will have to be extremely drunk first, otherwise I'll
>start giggling.
Oh! :)
>>>>"And then when I get old and my boobs start to sag, I'll write a book
>>>>about it and go on Donahue." [1]
>>
>>Card...@unix.asb.com (Rich Handley)did you consider the great
>>discounts at the ORB while you wrote:
>>>Am I the only one who's suddenly very interested in seeing what
>>>Rimrunner looks like? :)
>>
>>Rich! How could you? You're a married man!
>"I'm married, not dead." -- someone or other
Bill Cosby, I think ...
And it's the principle that counts! Married men shouldn't drool over
sexy brunette strippers - that task should stay in the hands of single
men!
>><Spec hauls Rich out of his front-row seat, propells him towards the
>>exit and leaps into the now-vacant seat>
>>
>>Wow, whadda view! Anyone got popcorn?
>There's some in that vending machine over there.
Thanks - but Wedge got some for me and JamesG.
>Rimrunner
>anyone got a cigarette
Nope, but I got popcorn. Want some?
Speculator
>> > Speculator wrote:
>> > > JamesG hands over 2 RASSM Credits [all we've got, I'm afraid]
>> Wedge wrote:
>> > JamesG! Did you pay for that popcorn on #rassm? I don't think
>> > so...:)
Greedy lil' bugger, incha?
Hey, Wedge, will ya accept some Book tokens for the ... never mind!
>Shefali Asthana wrote:
>> James!! How COULD you!!!!
Shit! It's the ball & chain, James!
JamesG <ja...@ukc.ac.uk>did you consider the great discounts at the ORB
while you wrote:
>I know I'd get in trouble the minute I got into this thread...
<cowers down behind seat>
>> Shefali Asthana
>> sniff, sniff, wahhhhhhh!!!
>Uh, look, I can explain... it was... uh, *research*, that's right, I'm
>doing research for my next book...
Yeah, that's right Shef - honest! We were doing a fanfic about poor
unfortunate slave girls forced to dance for the Hutts' amusement - and
I foolishly suggested we come along here for some research. I take
full responsibility!
I mean, it kinda slipped my mind that James is almost as married as
Rich is ...
>JamesG,
><guilty look...>
<Spec propels James and Shef towards the door>
Ahh, now I have the from row [and the popcorn] all to myself! :)
Wedge
Shefali Asthana wrote:
>
> Wedge wrote:
> >
>
> > > JamesG hands over 2 RASSM Credits [all we've got, I'm afraid]
> >
>
>
And me, a poor popcorn seller...*sniff* Hey, anyone want one of these
left over Duggy Vs CCS shirts or figures? *g*
JamesG
Speculator wrote:
>
> >> > Speculator wrote:
> >> Wedge wrote:
> >Shefali Asthana wrote:
> >> James!! How COULD you!!!!
>
> Shit! It's the ball & chain, James!
I wouldn't have put it quite like that...
> JamesG <ja...@ukc.ac.uk>did you consider the great discounts at the ORB
> while you wrote:
> >I know I'd get in trouble the minute I got into this thread...
>
> <cowers down behind seat>
I'm not cowering... I'm valently taking cover.
[Discression is the better part of Valour, Cowardice is the better part
of discression. ZB, LtUaE.]
> >> Shefali Asthana
> >> sniff, sniff, wahhhhhhh!!!
>
> >Uh, look, I can explain... it was... uh, *research*, that's right,
> >I'm doing research for my next book...
>
> Yeah, that's right Shef - honest! We were doing a fanfic about poor
> unfortunate slave girls forced to dance for the Hutts' amusement - and
> I foolishly suggested we come along here for some research. I take
> full responsibility!
Yeah! It's all Spec's fault!
> I mean, it kinda slipped my mind that James is almost as married as
> Rich is ...
We're not married! I'm just stalking her ;)
> >JamesG,
> ><guilty look...>
>
> <Spec propels James and Shef towards the door>
Ah, well, looks like there's an upside anyhow...
> Ahh, now I have the from row [and the popcorn] all to myself! :)
Hey, I paid for that popcorn! Darn...
JamesG,
easy come, easy go...
Wedge
Speculator wrote:
> >>Wow, whadda view! Anyone got popcorn?
>
> >There's some in that vending machine over there.
>
> Thanks - but Wedge got some for me and JamesG.
>
> >Rimrunner
> >anyone got a cigarette
>
> Nope, but I got popcorn. Want some?
Hey, you trying to bypass me? How's a guy supposed to make a decent
living like this...
Rimrunner
In article <6cu3a3$vj0$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <c...@bristol.st.com> wrote:
>In article <6ct5iv$ptb$1...@halcyon.com>,
> rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) wrote:
>
>> anyone got a cigarette
>
>Try:
>
>http://prometheus.frii.com/~jenine/tb/mount.bob/gnat/genevieve1.jpg
>
>From the other photos it sounds as if you had a great time, can I come next
>time ?
Sure!
http://vader.boutell.com/~grant/bast.bob/
Rimrunner
i wanted to call it puget.bob but was outvoted
Rimrunner
In article <6cvoh1$m1p$2...@news.u-net.com>,
Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>>>>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) wrote:
>>>>>I've occasionally considered quitting my job and going to work in a local
>>>>>strip club. From where I'm sitting, $15+/hour looks pretty good, you know.
>
>>Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>>>lap-dancers get £5 for a 3-minute dance - or so I hear!
>>>
>>>Seriously tho, it must be completely exhausting!
>
>the ORB while you wrote:
>
>umm ...
>
>is that a good thing?
I'm not sure. I think he's a bad influence.
There are at least two people in the Pacific Northwest who think he looks
like Lars Ulrich.
[snip]
>And it's the principle that counts! Married men shouldn't drool over
>sexy brunette strippers - that task should stay in the hands of single
>men!
Hmm, I hope you're being facetious, 'cos I know quite a few attached
gentlemen who have been known to frequent strip clubs.
>>anyone got a cigarette
>
>Nope, but I got popcorn. Want some?
Depends. Is that real butter, or that stuff that tastes like earwax? [1]
Rimrunner
[1] another Sandman: Brief Lives reference
Rimrunner
In article <6ctmhj$9...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>,
Simon H. Lee <sh...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>
[snip]
> I remember when Rimrunner posted the URL of a site with pics from a
>meeting of talk.bizarre members or something similar... :)
That URL again:
http://prometheus.frii.com/~jenine/tb/mount.bob/photos.html
The woman who put up the mount.bob site is pretty impressive herself.
Rimrunner
we call her the 'alpha female'
oblio-1
aeons ago, on the memorable date of 26 Feb 1998 15:23:26 -0800, Rimrunner
wrote to all:
>That URL again:
>
>http://prometheus.frii.com/~jenine/tb/mount.bob/photos.html
>
>The woman who put up the mount.bob site is pretty impressive herself.
>
>Rimrunner
>we call her the 'alpha female'
it's been way too long since anyone has said...
'bad-ass tree hugger'
--
oblio-1
love conga???
Speculator
>Speculator wrote:
>> >>Wow, whadda view! Anyone got popcorn?
>>
>> >There's some in that vending machine over there.
who needs vending machines when ya got ushe <cough> I mean waiters ...
>> Thanks - but Wedge got some for me and JamesG.
>>
>> >Rimrunner
>> >anyone got a cigarette
>>
>> Nope, but I got popcorn. Want some?
Wedge <we...@tm.net.my>did you consider the great discounts at the ORB
while you wrote:
>Hey, you trying to bypass me? How's a guy supposed to make a decent
>living like this...
Hey, what are ya after - I bought your popcorn [OK, I made JamesG pay
for it - same bloody difference!], AND I just plugged your
popcorn-selling activities!
<Spec pushes Wedge towards the door, then continues to drool over Rim>
Hmm, maybe >I< should start selling stuff on the Net - maybe I could
make my RASSM addiction pay for itself! :-)
Speculator
>>>>>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) wrote:
>>>>>>I've occasionally considered quitting my job and going to work in a local
>>>>>>strip club. From where I'm sitting, $15+/hour looks pretty good, you know.
>>
>>>Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>>>>lap-dancers get £5 for a 3-minute dance - or so I hear!
>>>>
>>>>Seriously tho, it must be completely exhausting!
>>
>>the ORB while you wrote:
>Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>>umm ...
>>
>>is that a good thing?
rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner)did you consider the great discounts at
the ORB while you wrote:
>I'm not sure. I think he's a bad influence.
Hey, he's a guitarist - whadaya expect? :)
>There are at least two people in the Pacific Northwest who think he looks
>like Lars Ulrich.
"Off to never-never land ..."
>[snip]
>>And it's the principle that counts! Married men shouldn't drool over
>>sexy brunette strippers - that task should stay in the hands of single
>>men!
>Hmm, I hope you're being facetious, 'cos I know quite a few attached
>gentlemen who have been known to frequent strip clubs.
Like in that episode of "Cybill" in the strip-club ...
Medical student - "My wife's paying my way through Medical School"
Christine Buranski - <SMACK!>
Stripper - "You moron! I'M his wife!"
:)
Seriously, I'm not too keen on the concept of infidelity. As the man
said, "Never rub another man's rhubarb!" - IMO it cuts both ways!
Besides, there are few enough single women around, without unnecessary
competition from married men! ;-)
>>>anyone got a cigarette
>>
>>Nope, but I got popcorn. Want some?
>Depends. Is that real butter, or that stuff that tastes like earwax? [1]
>Rimrunner
>[1] another Sandman: Brief Lives reference
IMO Sandman is overrated - sure, one or two of those stories are
BLOODY good [I mentioned a couple elsewhere] but Gaiman is capable of
more ...
Speaking of British comic writers, read much Ennis stuff?
James Watson
Rimrunner wrote:
> Depends. Is that real butter, or that stuff that tastes like earwax? [1]
> [1] another Sandman: Brief Lives reference
Freakin figures!
The ONE trade paperback version that I
DON'T have and *someone* decides to go running around
quoting from it!
*sheesh!*
Back on subject, I was really impressed with the
Sandman series and I was saddened (not to mention surprised
at the ending) to see it go. I was never too fond of the
various artists and the stories took quite a bit of track
to get up a decent head of steam, but the quality of
the stories and the depth of the characters blew me
away.
I also liked that throughout the series all the
different lives of the characters intertwined and even
some of the least significant ones showed up for the
final. Where else can you see Death (whata babe!)
play a game of soccer, the Devil quit his job (well...
Preacher comes close), a rat dressed like Bogart,
Shakespeare perform 'Midsummer...' and a wise-ass
scarecrow? ( I always loved that scene in
'Kindly Ones' where Mervyn is caught mouthing off
about Dream)
BTW, anybody finish the Destiny miniseries?
I bought them but only finish4ed the first two
books... Kinda' lost interest after that.
Any chance the name of the band was inspired
by Mathew the Raven?
--
wat...@iamerica.net (-o-)
Hmmm...
Rimrunner... Death... Rimrunner... Death...
Rimrunner
In article <6d5bbp$5cl$2...@news.u-net.com>,
Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>
>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner)did you consider the great discounts at
>the ORB while you wrote:
>
>>There are at least two people in the Pacific Northwest who think he looks
>>like Lars Ulrich.
>
>"Off to never-never land ..."
"No life till leather..."
Had to dust that one off.
>>[snip]
>
>>>And it's the principle that counts! Married men shouldn't drool over
>>>sexy brunette strippers - that task should stay in the hands of single
>>>men!
>
>>Hmm, I hope you're being facetious, 'cos I know quite a few attached
>>gentlemen who have been known to frequent strip clubs.
[snip]
>Seriously, I'm not too keen on the concept of infidelity. As the man
>said, "Never rub another man's rhubarb!" - IMO it cuts both ways!
Define infidelity. If one member of a couple likes to go to strip clubs
and the other member doesn't mind, who else's business is it?
Just to make trouble, I'll bring up open, polygamous, and polyamorous
relationships too.
>Besides, there are few enough single women around, without unnecessary
>competition from married men! ;-)
It's not that there's few of us, it's that some of us are very choosy.
[snip]
>>Rimrunner
>>[1] another Sandman: Brief Lives reference
>
>IMO Sandman is overrated - sure, one or two of those stories are
>BLOODY good [I mentioned a couple elsewhere] but Gaiman is capable of
>more ...
Well now, that's a personal taste thing, isn't it? Sure, the first story
arc didn't begin to tap Gaiman's potential, but personally I think "Brief
Lives" is one of the stronger storylines out there. "Season of Mists" is,
IMHO, in a class by itself. And many of the one-shots are good; "Men of
Good Fortune" (the one where Dream meets Hob Gadling once a century) is
excellent. (I especially like how he inserts little historical bits in, so
you know what century they're in--Marlowe and Shakespeare talking, for
instance, or the mention of the printing press, or the slave trade.)
>Speaking of British comic writers, read much Ennis stuff?
I've read Preacher, and I've got Hellblazer: Dangerous Habits somewhere.
Rimrunner
thinking of checking out maus
Speculator
>>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner)did you consider the great discounts at
>>the ORB while you wrote:
>>>There are at least two people in the Pacific Northwest who think he looks
>>>like Lars Ulrich.
>Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>>"Off to never-never land ..."
rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner)did you consider the great discounts at
the ORB while you wrote:
>"No life till leather..."
>Had to dust that one off.
Metallica ain't my thang, to tell ya the truth ...
I'm a "Maiden" may meself!
>>>[snip]
>>
>>>>And it's the principle that counts! Married men shouldn't drool over
>>>>sexy brunette strippers - that task should stay in the hands of single
>>>>men!
>>
>>>Hmm, I hope you're being facetious, 'cos I know quite a few attached
>>>gentlemen who have been known to frequent strip clubs.
>[snip]
>>Seriously, I'm not too keen on the concept of infidelity. As the man
>>said, "Never rub another man's rhubarb!" - IMO it cuts both ways!
>Define infidelity. If one member of a couple likes to go to strip clubs
>and the other member doesn't mind, who else's business is it?
Sure, if the other member doesn't mind then it's not infidelity ...
>Just to make trouble, I'll bring up open, polygamous, and polyamorous
>relationships too.
Well, when you said "married" I assumed [silly, I know] you meant in
the old-fashioned way ...
>>Besides, there are few enough single women around, without unnecessary
>>competition from married men! ;-)
>It's not that there's few of us, it's that some of us are very choosy.
Nope, some of you have weird and twisted standards! :)
I mean, "one [man] is much like another", and if you're with someone
who has similar tastes to yourself, and you enjoy each others company
and find one another stimulating, and so on ...
what's not to choose, eh?
>[snip]
>>>Rimrunner
>>>[1] another Sandman: Brief Lives reference
>>
>>IMO Sandman is overrated - sure, one or two of those stories are
>>BLOODY good [I mentioned a couple elsewhere] but Gaiman is capable of
>>more ...
>Well now, that's a personal taste thing, isn't it? Sure, the first story
>arc didn't begin to tap Gaiman's potential, but personally I think "Brief
>Lives" is one of the stronger storylines out there. "Season of Mists" is,
>IMHO, in a class by itself.
Don't recall those stories straight off - I read them last Spring,
about 10 months ago at least - but the titles are familiar ...
> And many of the one-shots are good; "Men of
>Good Fortune" (the one where Dream meets Hob Gadling once a century) is
>excellent.
yep, that's a classic!
> (I especially like how he inserts little historical bits in, so
>you know what century they're in--Marlowe and Shakespeare talking, for
>instance, or the mention of the printing press, or the slave trade.)
Like the explanation for why Shakespeare made it big - it sure wasn't
for his "talent" ! :)
>>Speaking of British comic writers, read much Ennis stuff?
>I've read Preacher, and I've got Hellblazer: Dangerous Habits somewhere.
Preacher's now being reprinted in the Megazine [looks OK],
Ennis now has his own monthly for DC - "Hitman" - the new arc features
the SAS, and I'd recommend it to ANYONE who likes Ennis' stuff!
The artist is Joel Mcrea - they started together in the UK, and
they've done some great work together.
>Rimrunner
>thinking of checking out maus
It's supposed to be really impressive - personally I'd avoid that kind
of arty stuff ...
I can't recall if you've read "Watchmen" or not ...
Stephen Roddick
Chris Hawkins (woo...@barber.shop) writes:
> Speculator wrote:
>> lap-dancers get £5 for a 3-minute dance - or so I hear!
>
> Not sure how much that is in US dollars, but dancers here can get
> anywhere from $5 - $100+ per dance depending on the rules of the club.
> Also, the dance generally gets more expensive with how much they take
> off and how close, lap-dances vary from state to state and even city to
> city depending upon local statutes, they get to you and at clubs without
> a hands-off policy the dancers have been known to allow customers to be
> hands-on for a price. From what I have heard and read the places that
> are hands-on are usually lower class than the ones which are hands-off.
>
>
>> Seriously tho, it must be completely exhausting!
>
> I have read some individuals reviews of lap dances and they say that
> they are exhausting in more ways than one (some dancers make it a goal
> for the guy to......if you can't figure it out, don't ask).
>
>
> MTSWBWY,
> Chris Hawkins
> Keeper of the Shaven Wookies
> Ringmaster of The RASSM WebRing
> (-o-)
>
> Shaven Wookie, Ltd.
> http://www.shavenwookie.com/
> Real e-mail address: haw...@shavenwookie.com
Ok boys please try to keep this stuff off.
thanx
-=HS=-
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Don't make me destroy you"
Darth Vader
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Rimrunner
In article <6dcqvr$6...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
Stephen Roddick <db...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote:
>
>Chris Hawkins (woo...@barber.shop) writes:
>> Speculator wrote:
>>
>> Not sure how much that is in US dollars, but dancers here can get
>> anywhere from $5 - $100+ per dance depending on the rules of the club.
>> Also, the dance generally gets more expensive with how much they take
>> off and how close, lap-dances vary from state to state and even city to
>> city depending upon local statutes, they get to you and at clubs without
>> a hands-off policy the dancers have been known to allow customers to be
>> hands-on for a price. From what I have heard and read the places that
>> are hands-on are usually lower class than the ones which are hands-off.
Sounds about right.
Up in Sand Point, I think it was, there was a protest from women who
worked in a local strip bar. The reason was a new Snohomish County law
specifying that all dancers in such an establishment must remain at least
four feet from the patrons. This means lap dances are right out.
If you ask me, the local government is going about this all wrong. They
hassle respectable, clean establishments (such as the one downtown where
the employees regularly make around $15/hour, and which is owned and run
by women) because they've seen the nasty ones and think all such clubs are
the same. They aren't. Granted, some places ARE sleazy, not to mention in
violation of several dozen Board of Health regulations, and those places
should be forced to clean up their act or close down. However, the local
government seems to be going after easy targets (such as splitting hairs
with the owner of the recently-closed Mr. Paddywhacks, over whether
another club she owned was a strip bar or not--the dancers wore bathing
suits or similar costumes IIRC).
I've also noticed that the Seattle city government's efforts didn't really
get going in this regard until they noticed how much tourism the 2nd and
Pike area and other Seattle neighborhoods were attracting, mostly due to
Pike Place Market. They've already made Fantasy Unlimited move, which
annoys me because it was a good place to go for stagewear; their leather
and PVC prices were pretty good, and their selection was great. Now I
can't go there on my lunch break anymore.
[snip]
>Ok boys please try to keep this stuff off.
I'm not a boy.
Rimrunner
bitch goddess of rassm. god damn it.
Rimrunner
In article <6d7sg8$n7l$1...@news.u-net.com>,
Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>>>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner)did you consider the great discounts at
>>>the ORB while you wrote:
>>>>There are at least two people in the Pacific Northwest who think he looks
>>>>like Lars Ulrich.
>
>>Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>>>"Off to never-never land ..."
>
>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner)did you consider the great discounts at
>the ORB while you wrote:
>>"No life till leather..."
>
>>Had to dust that one off.
>
>Metallica ain't my thang, to tell ya the truth ...
Infidel!
>I'm a "Maiden" may meself!
Oh, well, that's all right then.
I liked their take on "Rime of the Ancient Mariner". Far from spinning in
his grave, I think Coleridge would be proud.
>>>>[snip]
>
>>Define infidelity. If one member of a couple likes to go to strip clubs
>>and the other member doesn't mind, who else's business is it?
>
>Sure, if the other member doesn't mind then it's not infidelity ...
Okay, cool then.
[snip]
>>>Besides, there are few enough single women around, without unnecessary
>>>competition from married men! ;-)
>
>>It's not that there's few of us, it's that some of us are very choosy.
>
>Nope, some of you have weird and twisted standards! :)
Yes, and they're ALL MINE!!! Mua-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!
>I mean, "one [man] is much like another", and if you're with someone
>who has similar tastes to yourself, and you enjoy each others company
>and find one another stimulating, and so on ...
I'm having an awfully hard time locating the above. Particularly among
local musicians. A shared love of music is NOT enough, as I recently
discovered in rather painful empirical terms.
>>[snip]
>
>>Well now, that's a personal taste thing, isn't it? Sure, the first story
>>arc didn't begin to tap Gaiman's potential, but personally I think "Brief
>>Lives" is one of the stronger storylines out there. "Season of Mists" is,
>>IMHO, in a class by itself.
>
>Don't recall those stories straight off - I read them last Spring,
>about 10 months ago at least - but the titles are familiar ...
"Brief Lives" is when Dream and Delirium go looking for Destruction.
"Season of Mists" is the one where Lucifer quits his job and gives the key
to Hell to Dream.
"The most desirable plot of psychic real estate in the whole order of
created things, and now it's all yours." -- Death, "Sandman: Season of
Mists"
[snip]
>> (I especially like how he inserts little historical bits in, so
>>you know what century they're in--Marlowe and Shakespeare talking, for
>>instance, or the mention of the printing press, or the slave trade.)
>
>Like the explanation for why Shakespeare made it big - it sure wasn't
>for his "talent" ! :)
Hey, I rather like Shakespeare, y'know.
>>thinking of checking out maus
>
>It's supposed to be really impressive - personally I'd avoid that kind
>of arty stuff ...
I paged through it a bit in the store and liked what I saw.
But then, I happen to *like* that arty stuff. Really. Honest. I even read
James Joyce voluntarily!
>I can't recall if you've read "Watchmen" or not ...
Fraid not. Heard of it though.
Rimrunner
just finished 'reservation blues' again
Speculator
>>> Speculator wrote:
>>>> lap-dancers get £5 for a 3-minute dance - or so I hear!
>>Chris Hawkins (woo...@barber.shop) writes:
>>> Not sure how much that is in US dollars, but dancers here can get
About US$8 - I think
>>> anywhere from $5 - $100+ per dance depending on the rules of the club.
>>> Also, the dance generally gets more expensive with how much they take
>>> off and how close, lap-dances vary from state to state and even city to
>>> city depending upon local statutes, they get to you and at clubs without
>>> a hands-off policy the dancers have been known to allow customers to be
>>> hands-on for a price. From what I have heard and read the places that
>>> are hands-on are usually lower class than the ones which are hands-off.
rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner)did you consider the great discounts at
the ORB while you wrote:
>Sounds about right.
>Up in Sand Point, I think it was, there was a protest from women who
>worked in a local strip bar. The reason was a new Snohomish County law
>specifying that all dancers in such an establishment must remain at least
>four feet from the patrons. This means lap dances are right out.
>If you ask me, the local government is going about this all wrong. They
>hassle respectable, clean establishments (such as the one downtown where
>the employees regularly make around $15/hour, and which is owned and run
>by women) because they've seen the nasty ones and think all such clubs are
>the same. They aren't. Granted, some places ARE sleazy, not to mention in
>violation of several dozen Board of Health regulations, and those places
>should be forced to clean up their act or close down. However, the local
>government seems to be going after easy targets (such as splitting hairs
>with the owner of the recently-closed Mr. Paddywhacks, over whether
>another club she owned was a strip bar or not--the dancers wore bathing
>suits or similar costumes IIRC).
Typical politicians - make themselves look "good" without actually
dealing with the problem!
>I've also noticed that the Seattle city government's efforts didn't really
>get going in this regard until they noticed how much tourism the 2nd and
>Pike area and other Seattle neighborhoods were attracting, mostly due to
>Pike Place Market. They've already made Fantasy Unlimited move, which
>annoys me because it was a good place to go for stagewear; their leather
>and PVC prices were pretty good, and their selection was great. Now I
>can't go there on my lunch break anymore.
Scary - they deliberately damaged their city's tourist trade?
Reminds me of an outcry that my local area was becoming "nothing more
than a Residence for University Students" - until they realised that
the University was the main source of local revenue!!!
>[snip]
>Stephen Roddick <db...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote:
>>Ok boys please try to keep this stuff off.
>I'm not a boy.
I'm glad! :)
[bloody cheek of a Newbie to get uppity on us, tho!] :)
>Rimrunner
>bitch goddess of rassm. god damn it.
<Spec locks the Newbie in an iron cage, and lowers him into a pit of
lava while the RASSM throng worships a gigantic statue of Rim>
Speculator
>>>>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner)did you consider the great discounts at
>>>>the ORB while you wrote:
>>>>>like Lars Ulrich.
>>
>>>Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>>>>"Off to never-never land ..."
>>
>>
>>>Had to dust that one off.
>Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>>Metallica ain't my thang, to tell ya the truth ...
rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner)did you consider the great discounts at
the ORB while you wrote:
>Infidel!
Damn, forgot Hard Rock was your religion! :)
>>I'm a "Maiden" may meself!
>Oh, well, that's all right then.
>I liked their take on "Rime of the Ancient Mariner". Far from spinning in
>his grave, I think Coleridge would be proud.
A lot of Maiden stuff has Epic overtones - and their inspiration has
stretched from Patrick McGoohan to Alistair MacLean and Shaun Hutson
..
>>>>>[snip]
>>
>>>Define infidelity. If one member of a couple likes to go to strip clubs
>>>and the other member doesn't mind, who else's business is it?
>>
>>Sure, if the other member doesn't mind then it's not infidelity ...
>Okay, cool then.
IMHO "cheating" on your wife means going behind her back: I'd just
suggest a 3-way to her, and if she turned the idea down I'd leave it
at that! :)
>[snip]
>>>>Besides, there are few enough single women around, without unnecessary
>>>>competition from married men! ;-)
>>
>>>It's not that there's few of us, it's that some of us are very choosy.
>>
>>Nope, some of you have weird and twisted standards! :)
>Yes, and they're ALL MINE!!! Mua-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!
<Spec scratches Rim under the chin>
My, getting a bit possive aren't we?
<ducks for cover>
>>I mean, "one [man] is much like another", and if you're with someone
>>who has similar tastes to yourself, and you enjoy each others company
>>and find one another stimulating, and so on ...
>I'm having an awfully hard time locating the above. Particularly among
>local musicians. A shared love of music is NOT enough, as I recently
>discovered in rather painful empirical terms.
Well, what about a shared love of books and movies and such? I mean,
surely there must be SOMEONE who you spend hours debating with
endlessly about stuff you both enjoyed, eh?
Someone intelligent, sensitive, caring, and yet with the intellect
capable of putting forth a challenging arguement ...
>>>[snip]
>>
>>>Well now, that's a personal taste thing, isn't it? Sure, the first story
>>>arc didn't begin to tap Gaiman's potential, but personally I think "Brief
>>>Lives" is one of the stronger storylines out there. "Season of Mists" is,
>>>IMHO, in a class by itself.
>>
>>Don't recall those stories straight off - I read them last Spring,
>>about 10 months ago at least - but the titles are familiar ...
>"Brief Lives" is when Dream and Delirium go looking for Destruction.
>"Season of Mists" is the one where Lucifer quits his job and gives the key
>to Hell to Dream.
Think I missed 'em both :(
>"The most desirable plot of psychic real estate in the whole order of
>created things, and now it's all yours." -- Death, "Sandman: Season of
>Mists"
>[snip]
>>> (I especially like how he inserts little historical bits in, so
>>>you know what century they're in--Marlowe and Shakespeare talking, for
>>>instance, or the mention of the printing press, or the slave trade.)
>>
>>Like the explanation for why Shakespeare made it big - it sure wasn't
>>for his "talent" ! :)
>Hey, I rather like Shakespeare, y'know.
"Romeo and Juliet" was a pretty good action flick - but I put that
down to the director rather than the writer.
>>>thinking of checking out maus
>>
>>It's supposed to be really impressive - personally I'd avoid that kind
>>of arty stuff ...
>I paged through it a bit in the store and liked what I saw.
maybe I'll flick through it myself some time ...
>But then, I happen to *like* that arty stuff. Really. Honest. I even read
>James Joyce voluntarily!
I've never read Joyce - I read "Moby Dick" and a lot of Poe, but never
Joyce :(
>>I can't recall if you've read "Watchmen" or not ...
>Fraid not. Heard of it though.
Infidel!
Written when Gaiman was known only for "Don't Panic", it is THE
Graphic Novel!
When I read those "Sandman" tales I re-read Watchmen [hey, they were
all in a pile together - what was I to do?] - I gotta say Alan Moore's
work is WAY better than Gaiman's!
ObSW: Moore actually wrote a couple of SW tales, in the "missing" UK
stories - Rich had me send him photocopies of the stories a couple of
years ago to complete his collection.
"Attahox stank, and honest sweat was not the end of it. For Attahox
was a world whose soul was corrupt ..."
[paraphrased, I'll admit]
Real chilly stuff, IMHO a must-read!
>Rimrunner
>just finished 'reservation blues' again
Don't know about Reservation Blues, but I wouldn't mind watching
Reservoir Dogs again!
Eric Mohler
In article <6dfh20$9a4$1...@news.u-net.com>,
Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>>>>>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner)did you consider the great discounts at
>>>
>>>>arc didn't begin to tap Gaiman's potential, but personally I think "Brief
>>>>Lives" is one of the stronger storylines out there. "Season of Mists" is,
>>>>IMHO, in a class by itself.
>>>
>>>Don't recall those stories straight off - I read them last Spring,
>>>about 10 months ago at least - but the titles are familiar ...
>
>>"Brief Lives" is when Dream and Delirium go looking for Destruction.
>>"Season of Mists" is the one where Lucifer quits his job and gives the key
>>to Hell to Dream.
>
>Think I missed 'em both :(
Well, I think I'll just jump in the middle of this... :)
Sandman is probably one of the best long running series around. It's
basically a 75 issue limited series. Certain stories and story arcs are
strong or weak, but overall it has a pretty high level of quality. How
about the story about the serial killer convention?
[snip]
>>>I can't recall if you've read "Watchmen" or not ...
>
>>Fraid not. Heard of it though.
>
>Infidel!
>
>Written when Gaiman was known only for "Don't Panic", it is THE
>Graphic Novel!
>
>When I read those "Sandman" tales I re-read Watchmen [hey, they were
>all in a pile together - what was I to do?] - I gotta say Alan Moore's
>work is WAY better than Gaiman's!
Watchmen is required reading on the Graphic Novel reading list. After
getting through it, you just sit down and say 'Damn!' because it is just
so masterfully written. Alan Moore's V for Vendetta is up there, too, as
is Miracleman (Marvelman in the UK). Unfortunately, Alan Moore hasn't
maintained that level of quality as rigorously as Gaiman has. Gaiman's
75 issues of the Sandman give him a much better overall output than
Moore's current 'slumming' over at Image comics. (When is he going to
start working on 'Big Numbers' again?)
Of the Big Three Comics Creators that I consistently expect greatness
from (Gaiman, Moore, and Frank Miller), Gaiman disappoints the least. If
you compare Gaiman's, Moore's, and Miller's issues of Spawn (yeah,
guilty as charged), only Gaiman really was able to come up with something
worthwhile (Dave Sim just wrote a vitriolic Marvel-bashing story).
The more I think about it, the more the genres of Gaiman and Moore seem
pretty distinctive, so I'm not sure if comparing the two is fair. As Gaiman
seeks out magic and fantasy, while Moore is more of a sci-fi/realism
guy.
Eric
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Rimrunner
>>>>>the ORB while you wrote:
>>>>>>There are at least two people in the Pacific Northwest who think he looks
>>>>>>like Lars Ulrich.
>>>
>>>>Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>>>>>"Off to never-never land ..."
>>>
>>>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner)did you consider the great discounts at
>>>the ORB while you wrote:
>>>>"No life till leather..."
>>>
>>>>Had to dust that one off.
>
>>Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>>>Metallica ain't my thang, to tell ya the truth ...
>
>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner)did you consider the great discounts at
>the ORB while you wrote:
>>Infidel!
>
>Damn, forgot Hard Rock was your religion! :)
I am sooooo bummed that Chris DeGarmo is leaving Queensryche. Who will
they EVER find to replace him?
(I had quite a thing for him in high school, y'know.)
>>>I'm a "Maiden" may meself!
>
>>Oh, well, that's all right then.
>>I liked their take on "Rime of the Ancient Mariner". Far from spinning in
>>his grave, I think Coleridge would be proud.
>
>A lot of Maiden stuff has Epic overtones - and their inspiration has
>stretched from Patrick McGoohan to Alistair MacLean and Shaun Hutson
>..
Yeah, that's pretty cool. Metallica used to do a bit in that vein, but
that was mostly Cliff Burton's influence; when he died, they pretty much
went with other themes.
>>[snip]
>
>>>>>Besides, there are few enough single women around, without unnecessary
>>>>>competition from married men! ;-)
>>>
>>>>It's not that there's few of us, it's that some of us are very choosy.
>>>
>>>Nope, some of you have weird and twisted standards! :)
>
>>Yes, and they're ALL MINE!!! Mua-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!
>
><Spec scratches Rim under the chin>
*bite, gnaw, rend*
>My, getting a bit possive aren't we?
Yup.
><ducks for cover>
Too late. (I've been practicing.)
>>>I mean, "one [man] is much like another", and if you're with someone
>>>who has similar tastes to yourself, and you enjoy each others company
>>>and find one another stimulating, and so on ...
>
>>I'm having an awfully hard time locating the above. Particularly among
>>local musicians. A shared love of music is NOT enough, as I recently
>>discovered in rather painful empirical terms.
>
>Well, what about a shared love of books and movies and such? I mean,
>surely there must be SOMEONE who you spend hours debating with
>endlessly about stuff you both enjoyed, eh?
>
>Someone intelligent, sensitive, caring, and yet with the intellect
>capable of putting forth a challenging arguement ...
Thanks for hitting me over the head with that hint, Spec. :) But I don't
do long-distance well at ALL.
>>>>[snip]
>>>
>>>>Well now, that's a personal taste thing, isn't it? Sure, the first story
>>>>arc didn't begin to tap Gaiman's potential, but personally I think "Brief
>>>>Lives" is one of the stronger storylines out there. "Season of Mists" is,
>>>>IMHO, in a class by itself.
>>>
>>>Don't recall those stories straight off - I read them last Spring,
>>>about 10 months ago at least - but the titles are familiar ...
>
>>"Brief Lives" is when Dream and Delirium go looking for Destruction.
>>"Season of Mists" is the one where Lucifer quits his job and gives the key
>>to Hell to Dream.
>
>Think I missed 'em both :(
Get 'em. An issue of "Season of Mists" won a World Fantasy Award, which so
pissed off the traditionalists in the audience that They made it a rule:
no comic book can ever win that award from now on. Ever.
Sounds like spilled milk to me. Effin' dorks.
[snip]
>Real chilly stuff, IMHO a must-read!
Moore's another author I'm planning to check out. My guitarist just
loaned "V for Vendetta" to a friend of his, as soon as she's done with it
I'm borrowing it.
>>just finished 'reservation blues' again
>
>Don't know about Reservation Blues, but I wouldn't mind watching
>Reservoir Dogs again!
I don't have a TV these days. *shrug* Though a friend of mine is planning
a Chow-Yun Fat film festival. Mmm, yeah.
"Reservation Blues" takes place mostly on the Spokane Indian Reservation,
which is several hours' drive east of Seattle, in eastern Washington. (The
author's from there, I think, though he must live in or near Seattle,
because his latest novel was set here, and he knows the city too well not
to live here.) It's about five Indians who start a rock band. I actually
read about it in a fantasy-review mag, but it really isn't genre fiction
at all. Muy cool.
Rimrunner
'god could be an armadillo. i have no idea.' -- from reservation blues
Speculator
>>>>>arc didn't begin to tap Gaiman's potential, but personally I think "Brief
>>>>>Lives" is one of the stronger storylines out there. "Season of Mists" is,
>>>>>IMHO, in a class by itself.
>>>>
>>>>Don't recall those stories straight off - I read them last Spring,
>>>>about 10 months ago at least - but the titles are familiar ...
>>
>>>"Brief Lives" is when Dream and Delirium go looking for Destruction.
>>>"Season of Mists" is the one where Lucifer quits his job and gives the key
>>>to Hell to Dream.
>Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>>Think I missed 'em both :(
e...@acpub.duke.edu (Eric Mohler)did you consider the great discounts
at the ORB while you wrote:
>Well, I think I'll just jump in the middle of this... :)
Sure - Rim and I will snuggle up on the couch, you can take the bean
bag!
>Sandman is probably one of the best long running series around. It's
>basically a 75 issue limited series. Certain stories and story arcs are
>strong or weak, but overall it has a pretty high level of quality. How
>about the story about the serial killer convention?
Nice concept, but the end was a total anti-climax. Q - oop, Sandman -
makes them see themselves for what they really are, and they all
become ashamed of themselves? Hmm.
>[snip]
>>>>I can't recall if you've read "Watchmen" or not ...
>>
>>>Fraid not. Heard of it though.
>>
>>Infidel!
>>
>>Written when Gaiman was known only for "Don't Panic", it is THE
>>Graphic Novel!
>>
>>When I read those "Sandman" tales I re-read Watchmen [hey, they were
>>all in a pile together - what was I to do?] - I gotta say Alan Moore's
>>work is WAY better than Gaiman's!
>Watchmen is required reading on the Graphic Novel reading list. After
>getting through it, you just sit down and say 'Damn!' because it is just
>so masterfully written.
Damn straight!
> Alan Moore's V for Vendetta is up there, too, as
>is Miracleman (Marvelman in the UK).
Both originally printed in "Warrior" in 1982, along with some other
damn fine stories!
"Marvelman" is one of the best superhero stories ever - anyone
familiar with "Next Men" will know what to expect.
I never liked "V for Vendetta" - too slow and moody for my tastes, but
bloody well-written all the same!
> Unfortunately, Alan Moore hasn't
>maintained that level of quality as rigorously as Gaiman has. Gaiman's
>75 issues of the Sandman give him a much better overall output than
>Moore's current 'slumming' over at Image comics. (When is he going to
>start working on 'Big Numbers' again?)
I haven't read any of Moore's newer stuff - it may be that the well
has run dry ...
But when he was at his best he was THE best!
>Of the Big Three Comics Creators that I consistently expect greatness
>from (Gaiman, Moore, and Frank Miller), Gaiman disappoints the least. If
>you compare Gaiman's, Moore's, and Miller's issues of Spawn (yeah,
>guilty as charged), only Gaiman really was able to come up with something
>worthwhile (Dave Sim just wrote a vitriolic Marvel-bashing story).
Haven't read Spawn in 5 years either - Image isn't my thing ...
But to compare Gaiman, Moore and Miller in terms of pure talent,
"Watchmen" beats "Elektra: Assassin" and anything Gaiman has to offer
hands down!
>The more I think about it, the more the genres of Gaiman and Moore seem
>pretty distinctive, so I'm not sure if comparing the two is fair. As Gaiman
>seeks out magic and fantasy, while Moore is more of a sci-fi/realism
>guy.
Well, their material may be different - but they both write
Speculative Fiction Graphic Novels ...
Eric Mohler
In article <6di68t$el7$2...@news.u-net.com>,
Speculator <spec...@infoshop.u-net.com> wrote:
>e...@acpub.duke.edu (Eric Mohler)did you consider the great discounts
>at the ORB while you wrote:
>
>Sure - Rim and I will snuggle up on the couch, you can take the bean
>bag!
>
>>Sandman is probably one of the best long running series around. It's
>>basically a 75 issue limited series. Certain stories and story arcs are
>>strong or weak, but overall it has a pretty high level of quality. How
>>about the story about the serial killer convention?
>
>Nice concept, but the end was a total anti-climax. Q - oop, Sandman -
>makes them see themselves for what they really are, and they all
>become ashamed of themselves? Hmm.
I think Sandman had a lot of interesting concepts besides that one. I
like the World's End series where each issue had a tale that could be
enjoyed by itself, but ended up foreshadowing the end of the series. I
think this must be a love it or hate it kind of thing, but I'll get to
that in a second...
>>>When I read those "Sandman" tales I re-read Watchmen [hey, they were
>>>all in a pile together - what was I to do?] - I gotta say Alan Moore's
>>>work is WAY better than Gaiman's!
>
>>Watchmen is required reading on the Graphic Novel reading list. After
>>getting through it, you just sit down and say 'Damn!' because it is just
>>so masterfully written.
>
>Damn straight!
>
>> Alan Moore's V for Vendetta is up there, too, as
>>is Miracleman (Marvelman in the UK).
>
>Both originally printed in "Warrior" in 1982, along with some other
>damn fine stories!
>
>"Marvelman" is one of the best superhero stories ever - anyone
>familiar with "Next Men" will know what to expect.
I really like Next Men, and I wish John Byrne would get back to that
instead of fooling around with his miscellaneous DC/Marvel projects
>I never liked "V for Vendetta" - too slow and moody for my tastes, but
>bloody well-written all the same!
I think I actually prefer V for Vendetta to Watchmen, and I think V for
Vendetta is awful lot more like Sandman than most of Moore's other work.
>> Unfortunately, Alan Moore hasn't
>>maintained that level of quality as rigorously as Gaiman has. Gaiman's
>>75 issues of the Sandman give him a much better overall output than
>>Moore's current 'slumming' over at Image comics. (When is he going to
>>start working on 'Big Numbers' again?)
>
>I haven't read any of Moore's newer stuff - it may be that the well
>has run dry ...
>
>But when he was at his best he was THE best!
Even if the well has run dry, With Miracleman, V for Vendetta, and
Watchmen, he has a more impressive credit list than just about any
comicbook writer could ever have.
>>Of the Big Three Comics Creators that I consistently expect greatness
>>from (Gaiman, Moore, and Frank Miller), Gaiman disappoints the least. If
>>you compare Gaiman's, Moore's, and Miller's issues of Spawn (yeah,
>>guilty as charged), only Gaiman really was able to come up with something
>>worthwhile (Dave Sim just wrote a vitriolic Marvel-bashing story).
>
>Haven't read Spawn in 5 years either - Image isn't my thing ...
>
>But to compare Gaiman, Moore and Miller in terms of pure talent,
>"Watchmen" beats "Elektra: Assassin" and anything Gaiman has to offer
>hands down!
I think the Elektra: Assassin isn't a good example of Miller. The Dark
Knight Returns is of course one of the greatest Batman stories ever
(perhaps better than Alan Moore's 'The Killing Joke'). Give Me Liberty
was a very well written series (with art by Watchmen's Dave Gibbons) that
sliced away at American politics and presents a fantastic yet believable
future. Miller has turned the Series (Now called Martha Washington...)
into less of an insightful political commentary into more of an action
oriented book, but it is still very entertaining.
>>The more I think about it, the more the genres of Gaiman and Moore seem
>>pretty distinctive, so I'm not sure if comparing the two is fair. As Gaiman
>>seeks out magic and fantasy, while Moore is more of a sci-fi/realism
>>guy.
>
>Well, their material may be different - but they both write
>Speculative Fiction Graphic Novels ...
Well, I suppose they all do. But it is speculative fiction in two
different worlds. Miller and Moore (and Byrne) have written a lot of
speculative Superhero graphic novels, while Gaiman has written very few.
So with that thought, here is my top graphic novel list in a random order:
V for Vendetta
Give Me Libery + Marth Washington
Watchmen
Sandman
Miracleman
Nick Fury Vs. SHIELD (I have always liked this, although I generally
don't like any Nick Fury before or after)
Grendel: Devil's Legacy and some other Grendel Work
Batman: Arkham Asylum (kind of a letdown, but it has seem interesting stuff)
Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight misc story arcs (like Klaus Janson's
Gothic)
and probably some I have forgotten
Eric
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