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Ken from Chicago

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Jun 25, 2009, 6:01:03 AM6/25/09
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Transmorphers
Just a blur to the eye
"Transformers"?
No, that's just a lie!

With the millions of dollars spent and all the time and energy spent on
TRANSFORMERS and TRANSFORMERS 2: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN, would it have killed
TPTB to have created robots that actually "transform"?

Not that blurring whirling dervish of metal seen in those two movies but
actual transformation of object to robot--where we can actually see how one
part moves to another, is transformed from one use to another?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdARFaNLM7E

Instead we get bunch of whirring moving metal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsM6zTFm6JQ&NR=1

At least the cartoon had the excuse of a lack of budget and computer fx back
in the '80s, but what's the excuse now for a LACK of visually credible
"transformation"? Especially when it's so easy to do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx457jdwhM0&NR=1

-- Ken from Chicago


Edward McArdle

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Jun 25, 2009, 7:17:39 AM6/25/09
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In article <cbWdnRWIbcF6197X...@giganews.com>, "Ken from
Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:


Possibly because it is actually impossible?

(Although in Man with the Golden Gun the villain apparently really had a
(prop) cigarette lighter which could be transformed into a gun!)

--
Edward McArdle

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Jun 25, 2009, 9:35:28 AM6/25/09
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On Jun 25, 5:17 am, mcar...@ozemail.com.au (Edward McArdle) wrote:
> In article <cbWdnRWIbcF6197XnZ2dnUVZ_hSdn...@giganews.com>, "Ken from

> Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >Transmorphers
> >Just a blur to the eye
> >"Transformers"?
> >No, that's just a lie!
>
> >With the millions of dollars spent and all the time and energy spent on
> >TRANSFORMERS and TRANSFORMERS 2: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN, would it have killed
> >TPTB to have created robots that actually "transform"?
>
> >Not that blurring whirling dervish of metal seen in those two movies but
> >actual transformation of object to robot--where we can actually see how one
> >part moves to another, is transformed from one use to another?
>
>
> >Instead we get bunch of whirring moving metal:
>
>
> >At least the cartoon had the excuse of a lack of budget and computer fx back
> >in the '80s, but what's the excuse now for a LACK of visually credible
> >"transformation"? Especially when it's so easy to do:
>
>
> >-- Ken from Chicago
>
> Possibly because it is actually impossible?
>
> (Although in Man with the Golden Gun the villain apparently really had a
> (prop) cigarette lighter which could be transformed into a gun!)

Wasn't it the lighter *and* the cigarette case?

Jon Schild

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Jun 25, 2009, 11:21:10 AM6/25/09
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They weren't interested in making a technically feasable movie, only in
taking money from people who aren't too discrening in their viewing habits.


--
Wanted dead and/or alive: Shroedinger's cat.

Anim8rFSK

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Jun 25, 2009, 11:36:50 AM6/25/09
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In article
<46a86501-d4de-4ba9...@x6g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,

"Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnab...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jun 25, 5:17�am, mcar...@ozemail.com.au (Edward McArdle) wrote:

> > In article <cbWdnRWIbcF6197XnZ2dnUVZ hSdn...@giganews.com>, "Ken from


> > Chicago" <kwicker1b nos...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >Transmorphers
> > >Just a blur to the eye
> > >"Transformers"?
> > >No, that's just a lie!
> >
> > >With the millions of dollars spent and all the time and energy spent on
> > >TRANSFORMERS and TRANSFORMERS 2: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN, would it have
> > >killed
> > >TPTB to have created robots that actually "transform"?
> >
> > >Not that blurring whirling dervish of metal seen in those two movies but
> > >actual transformation of object to robot--where we can actually see how
> > >one
> > >part moves to another, is transformed from one use to another?
> >
> >
> > >Instead we get bunch of whirring moving metal:
> >
> >
> > >At least the cartoon had the excuse of a lack of budget and computer fx
> > >back
> > >in the '80s, but what's the excuse now for a LACK of visually credible
> > >"transformation"? Especially when it's so easy to do:
> >
> >
> > >-- Ken from Chicago
> >
> > Possibly because it is actually impossible?
> >
> > (Although in Man with the Golden Gun the villain apparently really had a
> > (prop) cigarette lighter which could be transformed into a gun!)
>
> Wasn't it the lighter *and* the cigarette case?

And pen, etc. etc. etc.
He had all the parts hidden on him, and just assembled it.

--
Uncle Jack: "Will, you're invisible!"
Will: "Invisible? I can't be! I can touch myself!"
--actual dialog from third season LAND OF THE LOST

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Jun 25, 2009, 12:29:30 PM6/25/09
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On Jun 25, 9:36 am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <46a86501-d4de-4ba9-b305-1558a173b...@x6g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,

Forgot about the pen (lol). I thought I'd lost what little was left
of my mind when he said it was the lighter (I *have* been known to
remember, vividly, things that never happened in movies and tv shows).

Anim8rFSK

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Jun 25, 2009, 1:08:16 PM6/25/09
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In article
<59534d61-9037-42d1...@d38g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,

"Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnab...@yahoo.com> wrote:

hee hee

He had the bullet someplace too; was it already in the pen? I mean,
getting caught with a gold bullet in your pocket *would* be sort of
suspicious.

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Jun 25, 2009, 2:02:16 PM6/25/09
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On Jun 25, 11:08 am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <59534d61-9037-42d1-aa4e-ee9615069...@d38g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,

That's *not* my gun... oh wait, different film, so sorry

Pete B

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Jun 25, 2009, 8:04:56 PM6/25/09
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In article <cbWdnRWIbcF6197X...@giganews.com>,
kwicker1...@comcast.net says...

> Transmorphers
> Just a blur to the eye
> "Transformers"?
> No, that's just a lie!
>
> With the millions of dollars spent and all the time and energy spent on
> TRANSFORMERS and TRANSFORMERS 2: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN, would it have killed
> TPTB to have created robots that actually "transform"?

Hang on, didn't you complain when i crossposted something about a scifi
movie to rast?

Dale Hicks

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Jun 25, 2009, 8:43:04 PM6/25/09
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In article <mcardle-2506...@192.168.1.7>,
mca...@ozemail.com.au says...

> In article <cbWdnRWIbcF6197X...@giganews.com>, "Ken from
> Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >At least the cartoon had the excuse of a lack of budget and computer fx back
> >in the '80s, but what's the excuse now for a LACK of visually credible
> >"transformation"? Especially when it's so easy to do:
>
> Possibly because it is actually impossible?

Then how did the toys do it?

--
Cranial Crusader dgh 1138 at bell south point net

Joseph Nebus

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Jun 26, 2009, 9:02:59 AM6/26/09
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Dale Hicks <dgh...@southernbell.com> writes:

>In article <mcardle-2506...@192.168.1.7>,
>mca...@ozemail.com.au says...
>> In article <cbWdnRWIbcF6197X...@giganews.com>, "Ken from
>> Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >At least the cartoon had the excuse of a lack of budget and computer fx back
>> >in the '80s, but what's the excuse now for a LACK of visually credible
>> >"transformation"? Especially when it's so easy to do:
>>
>> Possibly because it is actually impossible?

>Then how did the toys do it?

Because when we were kids we were willing to pretend that the
two pieces of plastic meeting at a corner were ``really'' representing
a solid rectangular-prism arm for Optimus Prime and weren't actually a
flimsy nothing.

Also we were willing to pretend that you could pop the front
of a VW Bug out and turn it into spindly legs and doughy feet and call
that believable.

--
Joseph Nebus
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Dan

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Jul 1, 2009, 8:05:16 AM7/1/09
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mca...@ozemail.com.au (Edward McArdle) wrote:

>In article <cbWdnRWIbcF6197X...@giganews.com>, "Ken from
>Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>At least the cartoon had the excuse of a lack of budget and computer fx back
>>in the '80s, but what's the excuse now for a LACK of visually credible
>>"transformation"? Especially when it's so easy to do:
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx457jdwhM0&NR=1
>

>Possibly because it is actually impossible?

How about these then?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyPksLeCMPw

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dilUbkP-PI

Transform to robots looks pretty good, the back-to-car transforms
are a bit rushed. :)


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