Name this video nasty.
StoneBug
When I was 8 I saw a scene in a film which scared me sh*tless. For some
reason I've just remembered this and am curious to find out what the film
is. Does anyone recognise this scene...
Its a darkened room with 2 people, one is in a strait jacket and one is a
"scientist". The scientist is doing some sort of research and is telling
the "patient" what an important part he is playing in the research. He
them uses some sort of tool to pluck the guys eyeballs out! He then sprays
somesort of disinfectant in the sockets. All along the "patient" is crying
and begging for it not to happen but to no avail.
This quite disturbed me as an 8 year old but now at 25 I think I can face
it and want to see it again. Any ideas anyone?
Paul Penna
In article <01bbc263$a27d6ba0$c34c...@jmoles.walldata.com>, "StoneBug"
<webm...@jjm.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
Sounds a lot like "A Clockwork Orange." Since you're in the UK, no wonder
you haven't seen it recently, as it's been unavailable there in any form
for years, at Stanley Kubrick's wish.
Paul Penna
terry w. luster
In article <01bbc263$a27d6ba0$c34c...@jmoles.walldata.com>,
StoneBug <webm...@jjm.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
>When I was 8 I saw a scene in a film which scared me sh*tless. For some
>reason I've just remembered this and am curious to find out what the film
>is. Does anyone recognise this scene...
>
>Its a darkened room with 2 people, one is in a strait jacket and one is a
>"scientist". The scientist is doing some sort of research and is telling
>the "patient" what an important part he is playing in the research. He
>them uses some sort of tool to pluck the guys eyeballs out! He then sprays
>somesort of disinfectant in the sockets. All along the "patient" is crying
>and begging for it not to happen but to no avail.
>
>This quite disturbed me as an 8 year old but now at 25 I think I can face
>it and want to see it again. Any ideas anyone?
>
>
Sounds like Richard Basehart in MANSION OF THE DOOMED-1979
It's a pretty guesome film that's now out of print,on video.
T.Luster
Eric Smith
In article <tterrace-ya023180...@199.4.94.14>,
tter...@calon.com (Paul Penna) wrote:
> In article <01bbc263$a27d6ba0$c34c...@jmoles.walldata.com>, "StoneBug"
> <webm...@jjm.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > When I was 8 I saw a scene in a film which scared me sh*tless. For some
> > reason I've just remembered this and am curious to find out what the film
> > is. Does anyone recognise this scene...
> >
> > Its a darkened room with 2 people, one is in a strait jacket and one is a
> > "scientist". The scientist is doing some sort of research and is telling
> > the "patient" what an important part he is playing in the research. He
> > them uses some sort of tool to pluck the guys eyeballs out! He then sprays
> > somesort of disinfectant in the sockets. All along the "patient" is crying
> > and begging for it not to happen but to no avail.
> >
> > This quite disturbed me as an 8 year old but now at 25 I think I can face
> > it and want to see it again. Any ideas anyone?
>
> Sounds a lot like "A Clockwork Orange." Since you're in the UK, no wonder
> you haven't seen it recently, as it's been unavailable there in any form
> for years, at Stanley Kubrick's wish.
Um, nobody gets their eyes "plucked out" in that movie...
--
Eric Smith
esm...@oswego.edu
<http://www.oswego.edu/~esmith2>
Special Agent Cooper
Paul Penna wrote:
> Sounds a lot like "A Clockwork Orange."
Ummm...
This sounds nothing like ACO. It sounds more like some obscure Italian
flick. I'm stumped, frankly.
Mark LoPresti
I doubt that even the most fanatic trivia nut can help with this one,
but here goes: The film is B&W and appears to be of late Forties
vintage. It is set in a radio station, an early TV station or maybe
even a newspaper. In any case, something media connected. Very near the
end of the film a character by the name of JENNIFER SMITH is fired. It
ran on Turner Classic Movies a few months ago and I only saw the final
few minutes. No credits appeared after the film and TCM programming
just wasn't listed in the paper at the time here in Buffalo. Attempts
to contact TCM have failed. All I really have to go on is the Jennifer
Smith character. Also, being on TCM, it was most likely a WB, MGM or
RKO picture. My educated guess would be WB or RKO. Well, thanks for
your time.
Mark LoPresti, Buffalo NY
Paul White
In article <54tgqq$1...@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>, s...@ix.netcom.com(Mark
LoPresti) wrote:
Jane Wyman played "Jennifer Smith" in the 1949 Warner comedy "The Lady
Takes a Sailor". It's about a girl who is rescued by a mysterious
submarine after a sailing accident. For more info, check out the IMDb
entry at this URL:
http://us.imdb.com/cache/title-exact/46089
Hope this is the film you were thinking of!
--
Mr. Bean
mrb...@bigfoot.com
Alan Bell
> In article <01bbc263$a27d6ba0$c34c...@jmoles.walldata.com>,
> StoneBug <webm...@jjm.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
> >Its a darkened room with 2 people, one is in a strait jacket and one is a
> >"scientist". The scientist is doing some sort of research and is telling
> >the "patient" what an important part he is playing in the research. He
> >them uses some sort of tool to pluck the guys eyeballs out! He then sprays
> >somesort of disinfectant in the sockets. All along the "patient" is crying
> >and begging for it not to happen but to no avail.
> >
> Sounds like Richard Basehart in MANSION OF THE DOOMED-1979
> It's a pretty guesome film that's now out of print,on video.
> T.Luster
It might indeed be the above-mentioned film -- haven't seen it. But it's
definitely not _A Clockwork Orange_, as a previous reply suggested. In
that one, all the scientist is doing is holding the guy's eyes open
(Malcolm MacDowell) and forcing him to watch all manner of foul movies.
___________________________________________________________
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=============<dab...@sonic.net>=707-546-6988===============
Fabrizio PaX
s...@ix.netcom.com(Mark LoPresti) ha scritto:
>I doubt that even the most fanatic trivia nut can help with this one,
>but here goes: The film is B&W and appears to be of late Forties
>vintage. It is set in a radio station, an early TV station or maybe
>even a newspaper. In any case, something media connected. Very near the
>end of the film a character by the name of JENNIFER SMITH is fired. It
>ran on Turner Classic Movies a few months ago and I only saw the final
>few minutes. No credits appeared after the film and TCM programming
>just wasn't listed in the paper at the time here in Buffalo. Attempts
>to contact TCM have failed. All I really have to go on is the Jennifer
>Smith character. Also, being on TCM, it was most likely a WB, MGM or
>RKO picture. My educated guess would be WB or RKO. Well, thanks for
>your time.
> Mark LoPresti, Buffalo NY
"The lady take a sailor", directed by Michael Curtiz, 1949.
Ciao
Fabrizio Pax
Milan, Italy
B. Dawn
On Sun, 27 Oct 1996 00:47:36 GMT, melv...@iol.it (Fabrizio PaX)
wrote:
>s...@ix.netcom.com(Mark LoPresti) ha scritto:
>
>>I doubt that even the most fanatic trivia nut can help with this one,
>>but here goes: The film is B&W and appears to be of late Forties
>>vintage.
...snips for space saving...
>
>"The lady take a sailor", directed by Michael Curtiz, 1949.
>
>Ciao
>Fabrizio Pax
>Milan, Italy
WOW. I am impressed.
***********************************************************
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hello_mum
>
> But it's
> definitely not _A Clockwork Orange_, as a previous reply suggested. In
> that one, all the scientist is doing is holding the guy's eyes open
> (Malcolm MacDowell) and forcing him to watch all manner of foul movies.
>
Well, I'm jumping in here where the fully-clued fear to tread, but it
sounds like 'A Clockwork Orange' to me. Imagine you're *8* years old
and watching that scene for the first time. Doesn't it sound like this?
> > Its a darkened room with 2 people, one is in a strait jacket and one is a
> > "scientist". The scientist is doing some sort of research and is telling
> > the "patient" what an important part he is playing in the research. He
> > them uses some sort of tool to pluck the guys eyeballs out! He then sprays
> > somesort of disinfectant in the sockets. All along the "patient" is crying
> > and begging for it not to happen but to no avail.
> >
> > This quite disturbed me as an 8 year old but now at 25 I think I can face
> > it and want to see it again. Any ideas anyone?
Eight years old, he's not reading between the lines and working out
whether it really is better to be free-and-a-tosser than
in-chains-and-a-good-citizen, or whatever the moral is. He's watching
someone fit clamps to Alex's eyelids and drop the lubricating drops
into his eyeballs. Which I gather wasn't part of the script but the
studio medic insisted on, if McDowell wasn't to lose his eyes for real.
Just the usual 2 cents...
Anne Marsden
PuNk
StoneBug (webm...@jjm.compulink.co.uk) wrote:
: When I was 8 I saw a scene in a film which scared me sh*tless. For some
: reason I've just remembered this and am curious to find out what the film
: is. Does anyone recognise this scene...
: Its a darkened room with 2 people, one is in a strait jacket and one is a
: "scientist". The scientist is doing some sort of research and is telling
: the "patient" what an important part he is playing in the research. He
: them uses some sort of tool to pluck the guys eyeballs out! He then sprays
: somesort of disinfectant in the sockets. All along the "patient" is crying
: and begging for it not to happen but to no avail.
:
: This quite disturbed me as an 8 year old but now at 25 I think I can face
: it and want to see it again. Any ideas anyone?
:
it sounds a little like a Clockwork Orange...
but he doesnt have his eyes pulled out..just held open..
Mark LoPresti
Thanks to all who replied. Now I just need to find if "The Lady Takes a
Sailor" is on video! The internet can answer *any* question. And thanks
for pointing out a great data base. Next time, I'll check there first.
Thanks again!
Mark LoPresti, Buffalo NY
terry w. luster
In article <54ugsr$f...@news-2.csn.net>,
Dr. Sheila Tunnell <stun...@csn.net> wrote:
>terry w. luster (ts...@midway.uchicago.edu) wrote:
>
>: Sounds like Richard Basehart in MANSION OF THE DOOMED-1979
>: It's a pretty guesome film that's now out of print,on video.
>: T.Luster
>
>but it isn't actually out of print on video. The "new" Midnight Video (I
>say "new" to distinguish it from the company of the same name which existed 15
>years ago) ... it and "Video Junkie"'s company both list it in their catalogs.
>
> The film was actually made and originally released in 1975. The director,
>Michael Pataki, began his career as an actor (he played Anjanette Comer's
>boss in my favorite horror film, THE BABY (1972) and the principal in
>Graduation Day (1981)), but moved into directing with Mansion Of The
>Doomed and the X - rated version of CINDERELLA (1977) which stars Charyl
>Smith (also known as "Rainbeaux Smith") in the title role and Sy
>Richardson as the "fairy godmother".
>
> Mark. (Mark Tunnell).
>
> stun...@csn.org
>
>
Hey Mark ,Wake up! MANSION OF THE DOOMED is in fact "out of print"
Midnight Video and Video Junkie sell copies,not pre-records!
Were do you think their copies came from?
Sheesh!
T.Luster
opr...@uchimvs1.uchicago.edu
(who has access to this pre-record)
T.Cruise
The character 'jennifer smith' has been played by;
1.Jane Wyman (Jennifer Smith)
. . . Lady Takes a Sailor, The (1949)
That's the only one listed in the Internet Movie Database, for that
character name.
T.Cruise
Tony Luna
tter...@calon.com (Paul Penna) wrote:
>In article <01bbc263$a27d6ba0$c34c...@jmoles.walldata.com>, "StoneBug"
><webm...@jjm.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
>> When I was 8 I saw a scene in a film which scared me sh*tless. For some
>> reason I've just remembered this and am curious to find out what the film
>> is. Does anyone recognise this scene...
>>
>> Its a darkened room with 2 people, one is in a strait jacket and one is a
>> "scientist". The scientist is doing some sort of research and is telling
>> the "patient" what an important part he is playing in the research. He
>> them uses some sort of tool to pluck the guys eyeballs out! He then sprays
>> somesort of disinfectant in the sockets. All along the "patient" is crying
>> and begging for it not to happen but to no avail.
>>
>> This quite disturbed me as an 8 year old but now at 25 I think I can face
>> it and want to see it again. Any ideas anyone?
>Sounds a lot like "A Clockwork Orange." Since you're in the UK, no wonder
>you haven't seen it recently, as it's been unavailable there in any form
>for years, at Stanley Kubrick's wish.
Nobody gets his eyeballs plucked out in a Clockwork Orange. They are
forced open by some type of head gear and he is forced to watch snuff
films.
tony
Dr. Sheila Tunnell
Michael Brooke
Paul Penna (tter...@calon.com) wrote:
: In article <01bbc263$a27d6ba0$c34c...@jmoles.walldata.com>, "StoneBug"
: <webm...@jjm.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
: > When I was 8 I saw a scene in a film which scared me sh*tless. For some
: > reason I've just remembered this and am curious to find out what the film
: > is. Does anyone recognise this scene...
: >
: > Its a darkened room with 2 people, one is in a strait jacket and one is a
: > "scientist". The scientist is doing some sort of research and is telling
: > the "patient" what an important part he is playing in the research. He
: > them uses some sort of tool to pluck the guys eyeballs out! He then sprays
: > somesort of disinfectant in the sockets. All along the "patient" is crying
: > and begging for it not to happen but to no avail.
: >
: > This quite disturbed me as an 8 year old but now at 25 I think I can face
: > it and want to see it again. Any ideas anyone?
: Sounds a lot like "A Clockwork Orange." Since you're in the UK, no wonder
: you haven't seen it recently, as it's been unavailable there in any form
: for years, at Stanley Kubrick's wish.
The slight flaw in that theory is that if Stonebug is only 25, he/she
would have been just two when the film was withdrawn from British
distribution (and of course the chances of a two-year-old getting into
a British cinema to see an X-rated film would have been nonexistent!).
And when he/she was eight (in the late 1970s), video wouldn't have
taken off to the extent that a pirate copy of 'A Clockwork Orange'
would have been available - and of course it goes without saying that
it hadn't been shown on TV!
So unless he/she saw the film abroad (and, given the timing, it would
have to have been in the cinema, which is somewhat unlikely given that
it was banned to under-16s/18s pretty well everywhere), it can't be
that particular film.
In any case, the description only very vaguely fits: no eyeballs are
removed, and the "scientist" in 'A Clockwork Orange' was a doctor who
had no lines.
Michael
Dr. Sheila Tunnell
terry w. luster (ts...@midway.uchicago.edu) wrote:
: Hey Mark ,Wake up! MANSION OF THE DOOMED is in fact "out of print"
: Midnight Video and Video Junkie sell copies,not pre-records!
: Were do you think their copies came from?
: Sheesh!
: T.Luster
: opr...@uchimvs1.uchicago.edu
: (who has access to this pre-record)
Hey Terry. GET A CLUE!
To me, "out of print" means that you can't get a film on video AT ALL.
I couldn't care less about whether it's pre - record or not. You can
still get the film so it isn't out of print.
If you don't know how I'm using my terminology, don't comment! And I'm
sure I'm not the only one who uses this definition.
Mark. (Mark Tunnell).
Dr. Sheila Tunnell
Dr. Sheila Tunnell (stun...@csn.net) wrote:
: Mark. (Mark Tunnell).
PS Yes, of course I know the difference between a copy and a pre -
record. And of course I know how the companies I mentioned get their
films. So don't patronise me.
Mark. (Mark Tunnell).
Alan Bell
In reply to an original query I wrote:
> > But it's
> > definitely not _A Clockwork Orange_, as a previous reply suggested. In
> > that one, all the scientist is doing is holding the guy's eyes open
> > (Malcolm MacDowell) and forcing him to watch all manner of foul movies.
to which Anne Marsden replied:
> Eight years old, he's not reading between the lines and working out
> whether it really is better to be free-and-a-tosser than
> in-chains-and-a-good-citizen, or whatever the moral is. He's watching
> someone fit clamps to Alex's eyelids and drop the lubricating drops
> into his eyeballs. Which I gather wasn't part of the script but the
> studio medic insisted on, if McDowell wasn't to lose his eyes for real.
to which I respond, you make a valid point. I know I've seen films a
second time after having seen them in childhood and discovered I'd gotten
rather important things absolutely wrong. So perhaps it might have been
ACO, except that...
Michael Brooke writes:
>The slight flaw in that theory is that if Stonebug is only 25, he/she
>would have been just two when the film was withdrawn from British
>distribution (and of course the chances of a two-year-old getting into
>a British cinema to see an X-rated film would have been nonexistent!)
and so on. So, unless the original poster, "StoneBug"
<webm...@jjm.compulink.co.uk>, can tell us under what circumstances he
saw this film, it still seems unlikely to have been ACO.
Alan
Mark Eaton
In article <19961028....@vnet.ibm.com>, pet...@vnet.ibm.com (PJK) wrote:
]
] Another clue for ACO is the subject "name this video NASTY" and in the movie
] rape is refered to as "doing the nasty."
]
] Pjk
ummm. I just watched ACO recently, and I dont beleive that sex was ever
referred to as 'doing the nasty'. Several times it was referred to as 'the
old in-out in-out'.
Laurelei
PJK wrote:
>
> In article <esmith2-ya0231800...@news.oswego.edu>,
> on Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:51:41 GMT,
> >
> >> In article <01bbc263$a27d6ba0$c34c...@jmoles.walldata.com>, "StoneBug"
> >> <webm...@jjm.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> > When I was 8 I saw a scene in a film which scared me sh*tless. For some
> >> > reason I've just remembered this and am curious to find out what the film
> >> > is. Does anyone recognise this scene...
I have a horror film memory from when I was 8 too. Spending the night at
my friend's house, we were allowed to stay up all night and watch
whatever we wanted. On a midnight Creature Feature type show, there was
this movie about these people who run an orphanage and kill the kids, but
put dummies in their beds so when the authorities come around, they think
that they still have the kids and so get $$ for their upkeep.
It scared the crap out of me!! I'd love to see it now that I'm 31. Ring
any bells? Thanks a lot. --laura
PJK
In article <esmith2-ya0231800...@news.oswego.edu>,
on Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:51:41 GMT,
Eric Smith <esm...@oswego.edu> writes:
>In article <tterrace-ya023180...@199.4.94.14>,
>tter...@calon.com (Paul Penna) wrote:
>
>> In article <01bbc263$a27d6ba0$c34c...@jmoles.walldata.com>, "StoneBug"
>> <webm...@jjm.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > When I was 8 I saw a scene in a film which scared me sh*tless. For some
>> > reason I've just remembered this and am curious to find out what the film
>> > is. Does anyone recognise this scene...
>> >
>> > "scientist". The scientist is doing some sort of research and is telling
>> > the "patient" what an important part he is playing in the research. He
>> > them uses some sort of tool to pluck the guys eyeballs out! He then sprays
>> > somesort of disinfectant in the sockets. All along the "patient" is crying
>> > and begging for it not to happen but to no avail.
>> >
>> > This quite disturbed me as an 8 year old but now at 25 I think I can face
>> > it and want to see it again. Any ideas anyone?
>>
>> Sounds a lot like "A Clockwork Orange." Since you're in the UK, no wonder
>> you haven't seen it recently, as it's been unavailable there in any form
>> for years, at Stanley Kubrick's wish.
>
>
>--
>Eric Smith
>esm...@oswego.edu
><http://www.oswego.edu/~esmith2>
He could be thinking about the scene in ACO where Malcolm McD is forced to
watch so much violence that he becomes physically sick. He has those thingys
that force his eyes to remain open, and one of the doctors puts eye drops in
his eyes as he watches. The original question did not remind me of this, but it
is just possible this is it.
Pjk
PJK
In article <54ug5k$h...@phooey.ware.net>,
on 27 Oct 1996 02:07:48 GMT,
hello_mum <hell...@homer.voxel.com> writes:
>>
>> But it's
>> definitely not _A Clockwork Orange_, as a previous reply suggested. In
>> that one, all the scientist is doing is holding the guy's eyes open
>> (Malcolm MacDowell) and forcing him to watch all manner of foul movies.
>>
>
>sounds like 'A Clockwork Orange' to me. Imagine you're *8* years old
>and watching that scene for the first time. Doesn't it sound like this?
>
>> > "scientist". The scientist is doing some sort of research and is telling
>> > the "patient" what an important part he is playing in the research. He
>> > them uses some sort of tool to pluck the guys eyeballs out! He then sprays
>> > somesort of disinfectant in the sockets. All along the "patient" is crying
>> > and begging for it not to happen but to no avail.
>> >
>> > This quite disturbed me as an 8 year old but now at 25 I think I can face
>> > it and want to see it again. Any ideas anyone?
>
>whether it really is better to be free-and-a-tosser than
>in-chains-and-a-good-citizen, or whatever the moral is. He's watching
>someone fit clamps to Alex's eyelids and drop the lubricating drops
>into his eyeballs. Which I gather wasn't part of the script but the
>studio medic insisted on, if McDowell wasn't to lose his eyes for real.
>
>
>Anne Marsden
Another clue for ACO is the subject "name this video NASTY" and in the movie
Mike Wason
On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Paul Penna wrote:
> In article <01bbc263$a27d6ba0$c34c...@jmoles.walldata.com>, "StoneBug"
> <webm...@jjm.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
> > "scientist". The scientist is doing some sort of research and is telling
> > the "patient" what an important part he is playing in the research. He
> > them uses some sort of tool to pluck the guys eyeballs out! He then sprays
> > somesort of disinfectant in the sockets. All along the "patient" is crying
> > and begging for it not to happen but to no avail.
> >
>
> Sounds a lot like "A Clockwork Orange." Since you're in the UK, no wonder
> you haven't seen it recently, as it's been unavailable there in any form
> for years, at Stanley Kubrick's wish.
>
> Paul Penna
Paul-
Don't think its -cLOCKWORK ORANGe_, only two people in the room? Pulls
the eyeballs OUT? I don't know any other movies that fit the description,
though. Maybe he's just remembering it wrong.
-Mike
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Michael Brooke
PJK (pet...@vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
: Another clue for ACO is the subject "name this video NASTY" and in the movie
: rape is refered to as "doing the nasty."
Where and when?
I've both read the book and seen the film considerably more than once,
and I certainly don't remember that term - I'd always been under the
impression that it was coined by Robert Townsend for 'Hollywood
Shuffle' (and subsequently hijacked by Eddie Murphy, which is how it
became famous).
Michael
MARC42
Thank you for you patience with this brief inturruption. We now return you to
"Name this video NASTY!" already in progress.
In article <54ubhk$i...@mikasa.iol.it>, melv...@iol.it (Fabrizio PaX) wrote:
>s...@ix.netcom.com(Mark LoPresti) ha scritto:
>
>>I doubt that even the most fanatic trivia nut can help with this one,
>>but here goes: The film is B&W and appears to be of late Forties
>>vintage. It is set in a radio station, an early TV station or maybe
>>even a newspaper. In any case, something media connected. Very near the
>>end of the film a character by the name of JENNIFER SMITH is fired. It
>>ran on Turner Classic Movies a few months ago and I only saw the final
>>few minutes. No credits appeared after the film and TCM programming
>>just wasn't listed in the paper at the time here in Buffalo. Attempts
>>to contact TCM have failed. All I really have to go on is the Jennifer
>>Smith character. Also, being on TCM, it was most likely a WB, MGM or
>>RKO picture. My educated guess would be WB or RKO. Well, thanks for
>>your time.
>
>> Mark LoPresti, Buffalo NY
>
>"The lady take a sailor", directed by Michael Curtiz, 1949.
>
>Ciao
>Fabrizio Pax
>Milan, Italy
>
>
;p
Marc
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In article <5503nq$c...@news-2.csn.net>,
Mark Tunnell <stun...@csn.net> wrote:
> Hey Terry. GET A CLUE!
Calm down.
> To me, "out of print" means that you can't get a film on video AT ALL.
Don't mean to labout the point, but to most people, out of print means
"no longer officially available" - by your definition, NO film is out
of print, since there's always _somewhere_ to get that rarity...
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Mark LoPresti
In two Warner Brothers cartoons, a reference to a "Simone-Simone" or
"Seemoan-Seemoan" comes up. It may have to do with a movie personality.
All searches of movie data-bases proved confusing. Too many Simones.
BTW, both cartoons are WB circa 1936-39 and WB cartoons usually make
reference to WB films and songs of the era. Thanks!
Mark LoPresti, Buffalo NY
Dr. Sheila Tunnell
Orlando Machado (oa...@leicester.ac.uk) wrote:
: In article <5503nq$c...@news-2.csn.net>,
: Mark Tunnell <stun...@csn.net> wrote:
: > Hey Terry. GET A CLUE!
: Calm down.
I'm surprised you're saying this to me, but not also to Terry. If you
look again, you'll see that his message was equally rude and patronizing. Or
didn't you notice? : > His tone was the whole reason I got mad in the
first place. So don't single me out, OK?
: > To me, "out of print" means that you can't get a film on video AT ALL.
: Don't mean to labout the point, but to most people, out of print means
: "no longer officially available" - by your definition, NO film is out
: of print, since there's always _somewhere_ to get that rarity...
No, you're not laboring the point. Actually, what I meant above was that
to me, "out of print" means NO LONGER on video at all. So we (you and I) are
actually saying the same thing. I just didn't put it very clearly
originally. : >
: Orlando
: --
: NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS!
: WAS: st...@csv.warwick.ac.uk NOW: oa...@leicester.ac.uk
Mark. (Mark Tunnell).
Jonathan Helis
s...@ix.netcom.com(Mark LoPresti) wrote:
> Mark LoPresti, Buffalo NY
There was an actress named Simone Simon(pronounced Simone Simone), who
appeared in the original "Cat People." Maybe that's the reference
you're looking for.
73,
Jonathan Helis, KB5IAV
Baton Rouge, Lousiana, USA
Dr. Sheila Tunnell
Laurelei (lau...@mail.csrlink.net) wrote:
: I have a horror film memory from when I was 8 too. Spending the night at
: my friend's house, we were allowed to stay up all night and watch
: whatever we wanted. On a midnight Creature Feature type show, there was
: this movie about these people who run an orphanage and kill the kids, but
: put dummies in their beds so when the authorities come around, they think
: that they still have the kids and so get $$ for their upkeep.
: It scared the crap out of me!! I'd love to see it now that I'm 31. Ring
: any bells? Thanks a lot. --laura
Well, it sounds like Phillip Gilbert's film "Blood And Lace" (1970),
starring Gloria Grahame and Melody Patterson, and also Vic Tayback from
"Alice". I quite liked it ... it's very brutal for it's time, though,
although it only got a PG when it came out for some reason. : >
Mark. (Mark Tunnell).
Orlando Machado
In article <961029093...@everyman.demon.co.uk>,
Perhaps the poster was thinking of the scene in which Alex's teacher
visits him at home, and describes some events of the previous night
as "a bit of naastiness nyeees, a bit of extreeme naastiness nyeeees".
It wasn't a reference to rape though.
Michael Brooke
Mark LoPresti (s...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: In two Warner Brothers cartoons, a reference to a "Simone-Simone" or
: "Seemoan-Seemoan" comes up. It may have to do with a movie personality.
: All searches of movie data-bases proved confusing. Too many Simones.
: BTW, both cartoons are WB circa 1936-39 and WB cartoons usually make
: reference to WB films and songs of the era. Thanks!
This is a guess, but a plausible one - try looking up the French
actress Simone Simon, who emigrated to Hollywood in the mid-1930s,
failed to break into American films, and went back to her native
country - she's probably most famous as the female lead in Renoir's
'La Bete Humaine' (1938).
Michael
PJK
In article <a1d7cc$172c30.292@NEWS>,
on Wed, 30 Oct 1996 05:35:23 GMT,
Jonathan Helis <kb5...@popalex1.linknet.net> writes:
>s...@ix.netcom.com(Mark LoPresti) wrote:
>
>>In two Warner Brothers cartoons, a reference to a "Simone-Simone" or
>>"Seemoan-Seemoan" comes up. It may have to do with a movie personality.
>>All searches of movie data-bases proved confusing. Too many Simones.
>>BTW, both cartoons are WB circa 1936-39 and WB cartoons usually make
>>reference to WB films and songs of the era. Thanks!
>
>
>There was an actress named Simone Simon(pronounced Simone Simone), who
>appeared in the original "Cat People." Maybe that's the reference
>you're looking for.
>
>
>73,
>
>Jonathan Helis, KB5IAV
>Baton Rouge, Lousiana, USA
>
>kb5...@linknet.net
>
>
The only Warner Brothers cartoon I can recall that mentions a famous actress
is the Bugs Bunny one with the momma vulture who sends her kid vultures out
to get food. (She talks with an Italian accent). The third and dumbest of the
babies catches a bumble bee and is bringing it back when he espies Bugs and
goes for him. He mentiones Dorothy Lamore. God. This is what the Internet was
designed for. Deep, intellectual discussions.
Pjk
H. Elsom
She's the cat woman in Cat People (the Val Lewtone version, needless to
day).
Regards,
Helen
Matthew Moses
On 30 Oct 1996, Mark LoPresti wrote:
> In two Warner Brothers cartoons, a reference to a "Simone-Simone" or
> "Seemoan-Seemoan" comes up. It may have to do with a movie personality.
> All searches of movie data-bases proved confusing. Too many Simones.
> BTW, both cartoons are WB circa 1936-39 and WB cartoons usually make
> reference to WB films and songs of the era. Thanks!
>
> Mark LoPresti, Buffalo NY
This is a reference to Simone Simon (see Ophuls' "La Ronde).
Matt
Eric
Since you're talking about gruesome stuff. I was wondering about
something. Do you think, when you get decapatated, you see for like a
millisecond? Can you see your headless body while your head flies
through the air? Can you think for that millisecond? That would be a
crazy thing, man.
Ooh my god. My body has no....(fade to black).
Eric
Aladdin Sane
Michael Brooke wrote:
>
> Mark LoPresti (s...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> : In two Warner Brothers cartoons, a reference to a "Simone-Simone" or
> : "Seemoan-Seemoan" comes up. It may have to do with a movie personality.
> : All searches of movie data-bases proved confusing. Too many Simones.
> : BTW, both cartoons are WB circa 1936-39 and WB cartoons usually make
> : reference to WB films and songs of the era. Thanks!
>
> actress Simone Simon, who emigrated to Hollywood in the mid-1930s,
> failed to break into American films, and went back to her native
> country - she's probably most famous as the female lead in Renoir's
> 'La Bete Humaine' (1938).
>
> Michael
Wasn't Simone Simon in a film called GAMES with Katherine Ross?
dbru...@muvms6.wvnet.edu
In article <556ig7$h...@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>, s...@ix.netcom.com(Mark LoPresti) writes:
> In two Warner Brothers cartoons, a reference to a "Simone-Simone" or
> "Seemoan-Seemoan" comes up. It may have to do with a movie personality.
> All searches of movie data-bases proved confusing. Too many Simones.
> BTW, both cartoons are WB circa 1936-39 and WB cartoons usually make
> reference to WB films and songs of the era. Thanks!
>
There's a blues singer named Nina Simone. Don't know if this helps???
--
"Do you recognize my voice, Mandrake?"
W Lee or T Beatty
Jonathan Helis wrote:
>
> s...@ix.netcom.com(Mark LoPresti) wrote:
>
> >In two Warner Brothers cartoons, a reference to a "Simone-Simone" or
> >"Seemoan-Seemoan" comes up. It may have to do with a movie personality.
> >All searches of movie data-bases proved confusing. Too many Simones.
> >BTW, both cartoons are WB circa 1936-39 and WB cartoons usually make
> >reference to WB films and songs of the era. Thanks!
>
> > Mark LoPresti, Buffalo NY
>
> appeared in the original "Cat People." Maybe that's the reference
> you're looking for.
>
> 73,
>
> Jonathan Helis, KB5IAV
> Baton Rouge, Lousiana, USA
>
> kb5...@linknet.net
She's also in the wonderful sequel, "Curse of the Cat People" -- both
films are "must sees" -- but be sure to see 'em in their original B&W --
I know there's a colorized version of "Curse..) out there, and if there
was ever a film that was NEVER meant to be colorized...
"Scary" Terry Beatty
at
> >> In article <01bbc263$a27d6ba0$c34c...@jmoles.walldata.com>, "StoneBug"
> >> <webm...@jjm.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> > reason I've just remembered this and am curious to find out what the film
> >> > is. Does anyone recognise this scene...
> >> >
> >> > the "patient" what an important part he is playing in the research. He
> >> > them uses some sort of tool to pluck the guys eyeballs out! He then sprays
> >> > somesort of disinfectant in the sockets. All along the "patient" is crying
> >> > and begging for it not to happen but to no avail.
> >> >
> >> > it and want to see it again. Any ideas anyone?
> >>
Mansion of the Doomed?
AT
sli...@sunlink.net
Michael Brooke <mic...@everyman.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>PJK (pet...@vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
>: Another clue for ACO is the subject "name this video NASTY" and in the movie
>: rape is refered to as "doing the nasty."
>Where and when?
>I've both read the book and seen the film considerably more than once,
>and I certainly don't remember that term - I'd always been under the
>impression that it was coined by Robert Townsend for 'Hollywood
>Shuffle' (and subsequently hijacked by Eddie Murphy, which is how it
>became famous).
>Michael
I've always thought that "Video Nasties" was a slang thing in
reference to banned videos in England....
Michael Brooke
Orlando Machado (oa...@leicester.ac.uk) wrote:
: In article <961029093...@everyman.demon.co.uk>,
: Michael Brooke <mic...@everyman.demon.co.uk> wrote:
: >
: >: Another clue for ACO is the subject "name this video NASTY" and in the movie
: >: rape is refered to as "doing the nasty."
: >
: >Where and when?
: >
: >I've both read the book and seen the film considerably more than once,
: >and I certainly don't remember that term - I'd always been under the
: >impression that it was coined by Robert Townsend for 'Hollywood
: >Shuffle' (and subsequently hijacked by Eddie Murphy, which is how it
: >became famous).
: Perhaps the poster was thinking of the scene in which Alex's teacher
: visits him at home, and describes some events of the previous night
: as "a bit of naastiness nyeees, a bit of extreeme naastiness nyeeees".
: It wasn't a reference to rape though.
And nor does the phrase "doing the nasty" appear...
Michael
Jeff Buechler
In article <327846...@teleport.com>,
Aladdin Sane <jma...@teleport.com> wrote:
>
>Wasn't Simone Simon in a film called GAMES with Katherine Ross?
Nope. That was Simone Signouret.
Jeff
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George V. Chastain
Mark LoPresti posted the following inquiry:
>In two Warner Brothers cartoons, a reference to a "Simone-Simone"
>or "Seemoan-Seemoan" comes up. It may have to do with a movie
>personality. All searches of movie data-bases proved confusing.
>Too many Simones. BTW, both cartoons are WB circa 1936-39 and WB
>cartoons usually make reference to WB films and songs of the era.
>Thanks!
> Mark LoPresti, Buffalo NY
As a long-time cartoon and "classic" horror fan, I knew this one.
The reference was to the gorgeous French actress Simone Simon
(pronounced seemoan seemoan) who starred as the ill-fated Serbian
shapeshifter Irena Dubrovna in two fine '40's horror/fantasy
films produced by the legendary Val Lewton: THE CAT PEOPLE and
its very different sequel, CURSE OF THE CAT PEOPLE. Simone also
played a temptress summoned by the devil (the terrific Walter
Huston) to lure the hero to his doom in another famous 40's
fantasy, THE DEVIL AND DANIEL WEBSTER. In her own country
she starred in Jean Renoir's THE HUMAN BEAST, remade by Fritz
Lang as a noirish U.S. thriller called HUMAN DESIRE with Broderick
Crawford, Glenn Ford and Gloria Grahame.
The Internet Movie Database has more on her career: search for
"Simon, Simone"...
George Chastain
p.s. It's not always a suitable subject for this group, but USENET
would be a great place to collect info on obscure references
in old cartoons...
p.p.s. This group WOULD be a good place to talk about HORROR
reference in cartoons... Peter Lorre sightings; Mighty Mouse
meets Frankenstein's Cat; Boris, Bela and Fredric March at
MICKEY'S GALA PREMIERE; FREAKAZOID meets Lon Chaney Jr.,
etc.
=========================================================================
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:34:16 EST
From: George V. Chastain <U0...@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
Message-ID: <96305.10...@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,alt.horror,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Simone-Simone (her real name is Simone Simon)
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<54tgqq$1...@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <54ur78$n...@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>
<556ig7$h...@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
Mark LoPresti posted this inquiry:
>In two Warner Brothers cartoons, a reference to a "Simone-Simone"
>or "Seemoan-Seemoan" comes up. It may have to do with a movie
>personality. All searches of movie data-bases proved confusing.
>Too many Simones. BTW, both cartoons are WB circa 1936-39 and WB
>cartoons usually make reference to WB films and songs of the era.
As a long-time cartoon and "classic" horror fan, I knew this one.
The reference was to the gorgeous French actress Simone Simon
(pronounced seemoan seemoan) who starred as the ill-fated Serbian
shapeshifter Irena Dubrovna in two fine '40's horror/fantasy
films produced by the legendary Val Lewton: THE CAT PEOPLE and
its very different sequel, CURSE OF THE CAT PEOPLE. Simone also
played a temptress summoned by the devil (the terrific Walter
Huston) to lure the hero to his doom in another famous 40's
fantasy, THE DEVIL AND DANIEL WEBSTER. In her own country
she starred in Jean Renoir's THE HUMAN BEAST, remade by Fritz
Lang as a noirish U.S. thriller called HUMAN DESIRE with Broderick
Crawford, Glenn Ford and Gloria Grahame.
The Internet Movie Database has more on Simone's career (she's still
alive, I think). Search for "Simon, Simone"...
George Chastain
p.s. It's not always a suitable topic for these newsgroups, but
USENET would be a great place to collect info about obscure
references in old and new cartoons.
p.p.s. These newsgroups WOULD be a good place to talk about HORROR
reference in cartoons... Peter Lorre sightings; Mighty Mouse
meets Frankenstein's Cat; Boris, Bela and Fredric March at
MICKEY'S GALA PREMIERE; FREAKAZOID meets Lon Chaney Jr.,
etc.
Chris Miller
> I've always thought that "Video Nasties" was a slang thing in
> reference to banned videos in England....
> --
> sli...@sunlink.net
yeah, that's what they called porn videos in "The Young Ones"
T.Cruise
On Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:26:54 -0800, Aladdin Sane <jma...@teleport.com>
wrote:
>
>Wasn't Simone Simon in a film called GAMES with Katherine Ross?
No, that was Simone Signoret in "Games."
T.Cruise
William Gary Stone
Has anyone seen the movie "Strange Brew", with Dave Thomas and Rick Moranis?
Tell me what you think of it, eh?
Johan Forsberg
Eric wrote:
>
> Since you're talking about gruesome stuff. I was wondering about
> something. Do you think, when you get decapatated, you see for like a
> millisecond? Can you see your headless body while your head flies
> through the air? Can you think for that millisecond? That would be a
> crazy thing, man.
Well, it actually takes 5-10 minutes for you to die from
decapitation (irreversible brain damage that is).
Unconsiousness from lack of oxygen takes... what? 10 seconds?
Anyway, we are talking about *much* longer than milliseconds here.
The main question is how fast you go unconsious/unaware from chock.
Merrick Baldelli
Eric <Eri...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Since you're talking about gruesome stuff. I was wondering about
>something. Do you think, when you get decapatated, you see for like a
>millisecond?
More than that I'm afraid. According to what I've heard in biology
class one morbid day, the person can still be quite conscious for a
little while longer than that 'til the brain suffocates from lack of
oxygen. (I think that my biology teacher was particularly bored that
day when he covered that topic)...
>Ooh my god. My body has no....(fade to black).
You can think it, but there's a good chance you won't be able to
mouth it. ;-)
__________
==\ /=======================================
===\ /====== Merrick Baldelli ================
====\ /======= merr...@america.net ============
=====\ /== http://www.america.net/~merrickb ======
======\/===========================================
Michael Brooke
William A. Choppa (cho...@iwl.net) wrote:
: Michael Brooke <mic...@everyman.demon.co.uk> wrote:
: >Orlando Machado (oa...@leicester.ac.uk) wrote:
: >: In article <961029093...@everyman.demon.co.uk>,
: >: Michael Brooke <mic...@everyman.demon.co.uk> wrote:
: >: >
: >: >: Another clue for ACO is the subject "name this video NASTY" and in the movie
: >: >: rape is refered to as "doing the nasty."
: Actually I read the uncut book and saw the movie many times. The
: reference you are looking for is "The old in-ou in-out." That was the
: language used for sex. Buy the book, there is a dictionary in the
: back that is very useful for understanding the dialogue of the book.
You'd have to get a very old American edition (the notorious version
that cut the last chapter) if you want the dictionary - which Anthony
Burgess disapproved of so much that he wrote lengthy pieces denouncing
it.
Michael
PJK
In article <327d9b59...@peach.america.net>,
on Sat, 02 Nov 1996 03:36:30 GMT,
This stuff was covered in Wolfen. Now go rent the vid.
Pjk
TJ
> There's a blues singer named Nina Simone. Don't know if this helps???
>
> --
>
> "Do you recognize my voice, Mandrake?"
Is this the singer who does "My Baby Just Cares For Me" in the short
animation of a black 'cat' in an evening dress singing at a bar while a
slouchy alley cat tries to woo her. It was touring with N. Parks "Close
Shave" recently. If yes, can you reccomend a collection? TIA tj
"Of course I respect you. And some day I'm going to make you MRS. Buck
Turgidson."
Dan Helmick
George V. Chastain (U0...@wvnvm.wvnet.edu) wrote:
: As a long-time cartoon and "classic" horror fan, I knew this one.
: The reference was to the gorgeous French actress Simone Simon
: (pronounced seemoan seemoan) who starred as the ill-fated Serbian
: shapeshifter Irena Dubrovna in two fine '40's horror/fantasy
: films produced by the legendary Val Lewton: THE CAT PEOPLE and
: its very different sequel, CURSE OF THE CAT PEOPLE. Simone also
: played a temptress summoned by the devil (the terrific Walter
: Huston) to lure the hero to his doom in another famous 40's
: fantasy, THE DEVIL AND DANIEL WEBSTER.
Not to mention, she was George Gershwin's mistress...
--
Ed Hoelker
Wasn't Simone Simon in the "Cat People" in the late 40s or early 50s?
Jeff Buechler <buec...@essc.psu.edu> wrote in article
<55aos0$3...@laurasia.ems.psu.edu>...
> In article <327846...@teleport.com>,
> Aladdin Sane <jma...@teleport.com> wrote:
> >
> >Wasn't Simone Simon in a film called GAMES with Katherine Ross?
>
> Nope. That was Simone Signouret.
>
> Jeff
> --
Ed (a PSU grad out in Kansas)
William A. Choppa
I remember now. The book I had did not ahve the last chapter but did
have the dictionary. The teacher (yes I read it in an english lit
class) gave us a photo copy of the final chapter to read. It was cool
because it had Alex realizing that he no longer wanted to be so
violent and would want to settle down.
As far as the dictionary goes, I still liked it in there.